Super Bowl Aspirations: Improving Play on Defensive Side of the Ball

Consistency will go a long way. 

Green Bay Packers fans worldwide have been begging for consistency from the team’s defense for as long as I can remember. And since head coach Matt LaFleur began manning the sidelines in 2019, the defense has played well enough in some stretches but was still not up to the task in other stretches. So as LaFleur welcomes Jeff Hafley, the third defensive coordinator to work under LaFleur, can the defense play more consistently? 

After employing a 3-4 defense under Mike Pettine and Joe Barry, Green Bay will transition to a 4-3 defense under Hafley. However, the Packers will likely still employ a nickel defense (4-2-5) more times than not. Regardless, general manager Brian Gutekunst made it a point of emphasis throughout free agency and the draft to completely revamp the team’s secondary, a group that is Hafley’s specialty. 

While the team welcomed back Keisean Nixon as one of the nickelbacks, Gutekunst signed safety Xavier McKinney during free agency, making him one of the highest-paid safeties in the league, and drafted the following defensive backs: Javon Bullard (second round, 58th overall), Evan Williams (fourth round, 111th overall), and Kitan Oladapo (fifth round, 169th overall). He also drafted cornerback Kalen King in the seventh round, who was projected as a first-round selection ahead of the 2023 season. At least one of the aforementioned rookies will be expected to be a regular contributor in the secondary. 

The depth at linebacker was thin ahead of the draft, after the team cut ties with De’Vondre Campbell, prompting Gutekunst to spend two draft picks to bolster that group. Edgerrin Cooper (second round, 45th overall) should be penciled in to start alongside Quay Walker, while Ty’Ron Hopper (third round, 91st overall) should provide depth and could be a special teams contributor in Year 1. 

It appears that one of the goals for Hafley is to play much faster and more aggressively on the defensive side of the ball, which was reflected in the 2024 draft selections. So for the Packers to compete for the Lombardi Trophy, assuming that the offense plays the way they played in 2023 (more on that below), what level does the defense need to play at for that to come to fruition? They need to be at least a top-half defense, and probably better. 

The 2023 Packers largely made the playoffs and advanced to the Divisional Round on the back of their red-hot offense down the stretch, as quarterback Jordan Love and Co. finished 6th in Defense-adjusted Value Over Average (DVOA). DVOA, for those unfamiliar, is an efficiency and opponent-adjusted statistic. However, the defense did not do its part. Yes, they pulled it together to end the regular season and forced turnovers in the postseason, but overall they simply were too inconsistent. They finished 27th in DVOA. 

The four teams to play on Conference Championship Weekend last season – the Baltimore Ravens (4th in Offense DVOA, 1st in Defense DVOA), Kansas City Chiefs (8th, 7th), San Francisco 49ers (1st, 4th), and Detroit Lions (5th, 13th) – all finished the regular season in the top ten in Offense DVOA and the top half in Defense DVOA. In 2022, it was much of the season. The Cincinnati Bengals finished the regular season 4th in Offense DVOA and 7th in Defense DVOA; the Chiefs finished first and 14th; the 49ers finished sixth and first; and the Eagles finished third and sixth. The Packers made the conference championship in 2019 and 2020 and ranked in the top half in Defense DVOA in 2019 (15th), but ranked just outside the top half in 2020 (17th). 

While those inside the building and a few outside of the building may have high expectations for Hafley’s defense in 2024, keep in mind that they have ranked inside the top ten in DVOA only twice since the franchise won Super Bowl XLV (2012 and 2015). They ranked in the 20s in each of the last three seasons. 

One way for the Packers to become at least a top-half defense is to improve their pass rush and corresponding scheme. While they ranked seventh in Pressure% (24.3%), they finished tied for 16th in total sacks and 19th in ESPN’s Pass Rush Win Rate, which is defined as “how often a pass-rusher is able to beat his block within 2.5 seconds.” Even worse, according to Next Gen Stats, they were dead last in unblocked pressures when they brought at least six pass rushers and 27th in Unblocked Pressure Rate. Those two stats boil down to an ineffective scheme. 

It’s a bit of a chicken-and-egg scenario when deciding whether a strong pass rush or coverage ability is more important to a defense’s overall performance, but it is clear to me that putting players in a position to succeed always plays. Here’s to hoping that Hafley does just that. 
 

 

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Rex is a lifelong Packers fan but was sick of the cold, so he moved to the heart of Cowboys country. Follow him on Twitter (@Sheild92) and Instagram (@rex.sheild). 

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Coldworld's picture

May 06, 2024 at 01:23 pm

I think the secret these days is less 4:3 versus 3:4 but the personnel types that such bases encourage and particularly what each team uses when under the Nickel umbrella. That can bring a great variety of personnel groups, skill sets and emphasis, both between teams and in any given team between snaps and opponents. It looks like Nickel under Hafley is intended to be a far more versatile D than we are used to and one with numerous variations.

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DoubleJ's picture

May 06, 2024 at 01:55 pm

Since most of the game is played in sub packages, the biggest difference between 3-4 (4-2-5) nickle and 4-3 (4-2-5) nickle is the DEs being in a 2 point stance (3-4) vs 3 point stance (4-3). The 3 point stance should allow for better initial leverage and get off. Otherwise for Hafley they are going to a 1 gap system instead of a 2 gap.

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Duhawk_47's picture

May 06, 2024 at 03:44 pm

I can't help but believe the 1-gap run scheme is going to benefit our front 4 guys in a significant way. After all, Slayton is the only real 2-gapper body type we have on the team. Sure, guys like Clark can handle it, but we're after excellence, not "satisfactory performance".

Proof will be in the pudding!

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DoubleJ's picture

May 07, 2024 at 10:00 am

I agree that our DT especially aren't good at 2 gaping. The biggest question will be the LBs taking on blocks.

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LLCHESTY's picture

May 07, 2024 at 05:35 pm

They're in nickel so much that I'm sure Gutey drafted Wyatt to be a 3T and you could make the case that he shouldn't have been on the field at all in base since a majority of the time it would be a running down. What I didn't understand is why they never really looked for a prototypical 3-4 DE. Lately they might only be playing 300 snaps a year at DE but they're kind of important snaps. Getting a stuff on 2nd and 4 puts a majority of teams in a passing down situation. If they would've spent an early day 3 pick or picked up a cheaper vet to play those snaps the run defense might have been much improved.

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GregC's picture

May 06, 2024 at 02:02 pm

They didn't revamp the secondary, it was just the safeties. I'm surprised how many people are expecting Kalen King to be a factor this year. It could happen, but it seems unlikely.

There are too many obscure stats in this article, and I'm not sure of their significance. It seems to me like "pass rush win rate" and "unblocked pressures while rushing six or more" would be more dependent on the quality of the players than on the scheme.

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Coldworld's picture

May 06, 2024 at 04:59 pm

Ignoring injuries, Jaire and Nixon are very likely to “start” in the secondary in week one. Of the other starters, it’s possible none were here last year or at least regular contributors. That’s a decent revamp I think.

As to King, the reason he may contribute is that despite being a mostly outside corner in college, he profiles much better inside than any other CB and is accepted to have genuinely plus ball skills and anticipation. It’s interesting that they have already had him at slot. He’s a guy who could provide useful sub package depth as a result. For outside depth keep an eye on Robert Rochelle.

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dark41's picture

May 06, 2024 at 08:06 pm

By not picking up the 5th year option for Stokes, he's in a 1 year "prove himself" contract this year. I'm hoping Stokes can return to his rookie form under Hafley. But should he stumble, I expect King to see significant playing time. There's also the question of whether Nixon improves enough to play the slot. That's also expecting Ballentine and Valentine to play as well or better than last year. So there's plenty of opportunities for King to get on the field this year. If nothing else, they need to evaluate King to know what they'll have in 2025. Go Pack go! :)

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dobber's picture

May 07, 2024 at 07:58 am

"I'm surprised how many people are expecting Kalen King to be a factor this year. "

I think it's just the "afterglow" of the draft and draft season hype. The early play at PSU is giving people a lot of hope, and the Packers got some good snaps from a bunch of no-name CBs for a big chunk of 2023. But if King plays a lot it either means something good (he's outplayed a bunch of returnees and earned regular play time), or something bad (he's outplayed a bunch of underperforming returnees--or injuries have ravaged the position--and the Packers were forced to put him on the field. I think you're right: realistically he's a 7th round flier who has a chance to contribute at some point and may apply some depth chart pressure to the guys ahead of him.

It wasn't that long ago that Mel Kiper and the other broadcast chuckleheads were still essentially dissecting sixth and seventh round picks the same way they were hitting first and second rounders. It was comical that they wanted to pitch every pick in a 'savior of the roster' light.

"There are too many obscure stats in this article, and I'm not sure of their significance."

On Soapbox: the application of analytics and the spontaneous generation of 'next gen stats' in the NFL is mind numbing. They apply to sports like baseball--which is essentially a one-on-one sport played in a team context--but tend to rapidly lose significance as you increase the number of supporting pieces and add in situational play. They way these stats are defined is also "self-fulfilling": how you include or reduce data strongly impacts the outcome of the algorithm. In the end, they ruined baseball by installing economists and number munchers in GM roles and chasing "three true outcomes." MLB is starting to see the error in that and is doing things like eliminating shifts and speeding up game play (which reintroduces some strategy and cuts down the ability for hitters and pitchers to try to manipulate each other---AND makes games far more watchable). But whole farm systems have been built around big-swinging, high-strikeout, all-or-nothing guys who limit the game to islands of HRs in a sea of Ks. It will take years to undo the damage that's been done to the game.

It's my hope that the NFL doesn't get into bed with high-end analytics and remains only acquaintances. There are some insights to be gained, but the variability from week-to-week and opponent-to-opponent is limiting. The NFL has bigger fish to fry in its relationship with betting and legalized gambling.

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GregC's picture

May 07, 2024 at 08:42 am

Agreed dobber, although I can't speak in any detail about baseball because I quit watching it several years ago. I got tired of watching 1-0 games that lasted three hours, and batters fouling off 12 pitches in a row and getting praised for it by the announcers. Too much stuff like that.

In football, there are so many stats now that writers can cherry pick the ones they want that support their point--or at least appear to support their point. There is often no effort to establish causal relationships or weigh stats against each other.

I don't trust DVOA because it is a complicated stew that involves a lot of subjective judgements in terms of how much weight to give each stat. I'm mostly okay with passer rating because it is a simple formula based on stats that are clearly important, although I think it gives too much weight to completion percentage, which maybe shouldn't be included at all. (Yards per attempt is already part of the formula, and an incomplete pass is an attempt with zero yards, so by adding completion percentage you are double counting incomplete passes.)

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LLCHESTY's picture

May 07, 2024 at 01:37 pm

I don't think King with be much of factor this year but Hafley brought up his willingness to tackle and his instincts so I think he's pretty much guaranteed a spot on the PS if he looks like playing outside will be too much for him. They'll move him inside and give him a year to pick it up.

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dobber's picture

May 06, 2024 at 02:42 pm

"One way for the Packers to become at least a top-half defense is to improve their pass rush and corresponding scheme."

They need to generate turnovers. Turnovers are defensive "chunk plays". Pressure helps with that, yes, but only 7 INTs--that's 31st in the league--isn't going to help get your defense off the field and help set up your offense in plus field position.

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Coldworld's picture

May 06, 2024 at 05:08 pm

We also allowed the 5th greatest 3rd down conversion rate against us (and it was getting worse late in the season), 43.75% over the season. Add that to the lack of turnovers and the D is not getting off the field without a score often enough or with good field position.

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jannes bjornson's picture

May 06, 2024 at 06:21 pm

Players, not Plays. Do they have guys who create havoc and steal the ball? The 'I like to watch" crowd has been whittled down, but were they replaced with Better defenders?

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TKWorldWide's picture

May 06, 2024 at 07:05 pm

Homage to Vic!

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T7Steve's picture

May 07, 2024 at 06:43 am

"when deciding whether a strong pass rush or coverage ability is more important to a defense’s overall performance"

Without the first one, the other suffers. Nothing makes a defensive backfield look better than a D-line that gives QBs "happy feet" with nowhere to turn or run.

They need and I think are getting more depth on the line with the new D. By the ends of games and seasons Clark and Smith, while they held their own, couldn't dominate at any given time. Gary, with a whole season removed from his injury, should be top notch force this season too. The youngsters will provide the help that will cause problems for teams trying to keep those first three out of plays.

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RCPackerFan's picture

May 07, 2024 at 09:20 am

I just know 1 thing after listening to Hafley yesterday. You can see why GB made him their DC.

"One way for the Packers to become at least a top-half defense is to improve their pass rush and corresponding scheme"

The frustrating part watching the Joe Barry led defense was we would see our pass rush getting around blocks or through them to only have the QB get rid of the ball quick because CB's were 10 yards off the ball. Pass rush and coverage need to marry each other. A good pass rush can help the coverage, and a good coverage can help the pass rush.

One major change that I think will help the rush is how much stickier the CB's will be. I'm not saying they have to or will be playing press man continuously, but having them closer to the LOS and not allowing them to have free releases continuously will really help.

I'm very excited this defense with the players they have.

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T7Steve's picture

May 07, 2024 at 10:02 am

I think Hafley's system simplifies the duties of the backfield, and we won't see someone passing off a receiver to the next guy's zone and no one's there. An aggressive pressing zone with some guys staying with their guy while others come to help.

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Doug_In_Sandpoint's picture

May 07, 2024 at 10:08 am

Some have said (strawman alert) that it will take 6-8 games for the D to get up to speed. As I understand it, there are limited opportunities for team activities, but players can get together outside of these as a group. Love did this with the young receivers last year. So here’s my plan…

Take one of the 95 spots on the roster and sign one of the D coaches to a UDFA-type deal. Then he gets together with his “teammates” to get everyone familiar with the new 4-3. Come out of the gates fully engaged.

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May 07, 2024 at 10:15 am

Three principles I heard from Hafley during his opening press conference were revealing:

1. Vision and Break
2. KISS (keep it simple stupid)
3. Adjusting the weekly defense based on the upcoming opponent

Both foreshadowed an attacking style of play. It seems to me Team Gute clearly understood this during the draft.

The defensive players drafted fit Gute's over-arching theme to select talent with a fat resume of college production, athletically gifted, leaders/Captains on their respective teams, smart with solid character.

What Gute also gave Hafley (with his Haf's urging, no doubt) are disruptors...playmakers...pressure and tackling skills. For the rookies, a simplified game plan should help get them on the field sooner. Cross training them to play other positions (S at slot, Post S at SS, LB blitzes, DE playing DT and vice versa, etc) will also increase opportunities for the New Kids on the Block.

Hafley is going to coach a good mix of rookies and vets to mold his defenses, be creative, and flexible depending on the next opponent. Should be fun to watch.

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T7Steve's picture

May 07, 2024 at 10:39 am

"Flexable depending on the next opponent" and I hear reports of an unheard-of development of quick and easy adjustments DURING games if something isn't working or the other team makes adjustments.

How novel and wonderful is that?

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Coldworld's picture

May 07, 2024 at 11:41 am

He referred yesterday to “vision and break” zone if not playing press man. The distinctive feature of both is attacking the route and catch point. That’s what made Jaire a star, what Stokes does well and also should help Valentine.

Barry’s year 2 and 3 RAS a read and react of coverage. Much more passive, far less likely to lead to a breakup or interception but designed to minimize the play. The problem is that every system fails, so big plays weren’t eradicated, and too often we were just conceding the catch and this the drives went on and on. Our D got more tired, the offense out of rhythm.

It was essentially defeatist. They are going to make plays so let’s just try to minimize them and hope that they make an error. The problem with that is that less pressure on the catcher makes for less errors. Thus our only counter was the rush. When that worked we did ok, but it didn’t work well enough often enough.

We were essentially a one trick pony and our opponents knew it, especially if they could establish the run and force the front 7 into more caution. Barry vastly exacerbated that by the even more defeatist proclivity to go full prevent far too often. He needed more confidence in himself, his ability and that if his players. He defeated himself far more often than necessary because he feared it so deeply.

Hafley’s system is going to risk big plays, and is predicated on getting the ball back faster. In the end, that more fun to watch and for most, I suspect, more fun to play. We will still lose some, but the days of letting sun par QBs and teams stroll over us are likely gone. Make them beat you not hope they screw up. I’m all for it, philosophically and as a fan. Just expect bumps along the way.

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Leatherhead's picture

May 07, 2024 at 11:33 am

Here are some 2023 playoff facts.

The first weekend, Wild Card Weekend, there were 6 games played. Two winners scored over 40, two other scored over 30. The Lions won a 24-23 squeaker over the Rams, the lowest score by any winning team. IOW, if you did not score at least 24 points, you did not win.

The second weekend, four games. Two winners scored over 30, KC won a squeaker over the Bills, 27-24, and The 49ers won another squeaker, 24-21. Again, IOW, if you didn't score at least 24 points, you were done. In fact, of the 13 total playoff games, including Super Bowl, the only team to win a game with less than 24 points were the Chiefs, against Baltimore.

12 out of 13. You don't win playoff games unless you get at least 24 points on the board. At least last year. I'll have to check deeper, later.

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NFLfan's picture

May 07, 2024 at 01:31 pm

Perhaps I'm a killjoy, but I have absolutely no interest in predicting what Hafley, his coaches, his scheme, his players, etc., will bring to Green Bay until I see it. Gutekunst and Co. has not inspired me re: GB Defensive competence.

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Starrbrite's picture

May 07, 2024 at 01:53 pm

You have to make turnovers when you have the the opportunity. The missed INT’s over the years in big games standout in my mind. Last year’s missed Int by Savage vs San Fran and the the dropped int by Redmond vs Brady/Bucs, make me nauseous.
The stupid mistake by Brad Jones to rush the FG kicker when a FG didn’t matter (vs the Hawks), allowing the an easy pass reception—where the heck were the coaches— much like King playing press coverage on Miller when he/the DB’s weren’t within 10 yds of the lOS the entire game.
Gotta have talent and talent out performs schemes.
Go Packers!!!

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LLCHESTY's picture

May 07, 2024 at 02:30 pm

Kevin King definitely wasn't in press coverage, he was about 7 yards off the LOS when the ball was snapped. He was anticipating a throw to the sticks to set them up for a FG. I have no idea what the safeties we're doing on that play but one of them definitely messed up. Here's the play:

https://youtu.be/WBThT59O6hY?si=xVZuvZxUxxhM6-_J

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Starrbrite's picture

May 07, 2024 at 07:09 pm

True—LL

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GregC's picture

May 07, 2024 at 04:13 pm

Thanks for stirring up a hornets nest of playoff nightmares. Rough day at Cheesehad TV. No new content until just a few minutes ago, and it's an article about the new kickoff rules. At this point, though, I'll take it!

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Leatherhead's picture

May 07, 2024 at 04:06 pm

Here's the story on "that play" and "that game".

With 34 seconds left in the first half, the Packers had the ball, it was 2nd and 17, and they were on their own 33. Down 14-10, but receiving the 2nd half kickoff, simply running the ball into the LOS for no gain on two plays in a row and then punting would have certainly burned through Tampa's last two timeouts.

But no, we had to try to throw it down the middle and it got picked. Tampa's ball on the 49.

Brady threw short and threw incomplete and with 13 seconds left it was 4th down. He threw a quick completion to Fournette and they had a first down. Last time out with 8 seconds left. The coaches were definitely concerned about the quick out that would set up a FG, but given that it was Brady and everything, it would have been smarter to focus on denying the endzone bomb.

Anyway, King was playing hurt, but at that point in the season, everybody plays hurt. Aaron Jones played hurt and he had a play that hurt us every bit as bad as the King play. But IMO, we'd have been better off to just kill the last 34 seconds, which would have prevented the interception and the King play.

Of course, this has entered the mythology of how the defense keeps costing us in the playoffs, but the reality is that the defense held Tampa to 76 yards on 25 rushes, held Brady to a 73.8 passer rating, and collected 3 takeaways. It had one terrible play that could/should have been avoided.

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May 07, 2024 at 07:01 pm

Funny how narrative works. The reality was Matt and Aaron, our co-head coaches, fucked the monkey, then Barry played aggressive, squatting on the short route. People bitched non-stop about Barry's cautiousness, here it was anything but, and they got burned.

it's a damned if you do and damned if you don't situation. Aaron Jones inexcusable turnover never seems to get mentioned, now that he's been deified.

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Starrbrite's picture

May 07, 2024 at 07:11 pm

Yes—the Jones fumble—bumbled everything.

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May 07, 2024 at 07:08 pm

LH—An excellent rehash—Many what if’s? The missed int by Redmond was a cream puff pass and hit him in the hands dead center. It should’ve added to Brady’s three INT’s.
But you’re right the offense did not do their job.

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