2022 Packers Stock Report: Week 2

Take a look at the stock report for the Green Bay Packers after a 27-10 win over the Chicago Bears in Week 2.

All is right with the world, once again.

In a tale as old as time, the Green Bay Packers took it to the Chicago Bears in prime time at Lambeau Field.

How can you not love that?

There are definitely some things that need to be cleaned up, but it's good to get the first win of the season out of the way. So let's get into the stock report for the Green Bay Packers after a 27-10 win over Chicago in Week 2.

BUY

Elgton Jenkins- I do not care that he looked rusty in his first game back. I do not care that it wasn't perfect. What I do care about is the spark that Elgton Jenkins provided to the offensive line and the offense in general. After the game, Matt LaFleur gushed about Jenkins in his return, stating that the Packers would not have won that game without him. That's a big compliment, especially for a guy who has hardly played the right tackle position. Reminder: it was his first game back from injury. He'll get better, and more confident, every week at the position. Buy.

Aaron Jones/AJ Dillon- I could've just said "buy the run game," but that's not as fun as writing down both names of the Packers' standout running back duo. Yes, Aaron Jones was the big star of the night - and rightfully so (15 carries, 132 yards, 1 TD). However, A.J. Dillon actually rushed the rock more times than Jones (18 carries), and provided a nice ying to Jones' yang. Heavy doses between the slasher and the bulldozer will keep a defense on its toes. This is the future of this offense and this team. Gone are the days of Rodgers throwing 40+ times a game. Here to stay is this duo and the run-first style of offense that can win football games.

Preston Smith- Preston Smith? Might as well just call him Mr. Consistent. Smith was all over the field on Sunday, posting 7 total tackles, 3 QB hits and 2 sacks. A leader on the defense, Smith isn't always the most splashy, flashy player on the field. But he just does his job night in and night out. He's a disciplined player, capable of rushing the passer and stopping the run. (Just don't ask him to cover Justin Jefferson - I kid, I kid). In all seriousness, the Packers will need Smith to continue his solid play for the rest of the year. And I'm betting that's what he'll do.

SELL

Royce Newman- Admittedly, Royce Newman did play better at the right guard position than his attempt at right tackle a week ago. However, he is consistently one of the worst graded offensive players every week, and needs to show some growth at the position. He's an okay option, but I'm just not buying that Newman is the right guard of the future for this team.

Darnell Savage- Last week, I put Adrian Amos' performance on sell. This week, it's his partner in the defensive backfield who I'm disappointed with. Savage struggled in week one, but he was noticeably worse in week 2. He's always been above average against the pass, but the area of his game that needs improvement right now is his tackling. He struggles in run fits and misses tackles often. Savage is an athletic freak, but he'll need to be better if this defense is going to reach its full potential.

HOLD

Special teams- Don't look now, but the Packers special teams is gaining some positive momentum. It's definitely not a 'buy' yet, but the Packers "we-fense" played much better in Week 2 against the Bears. No blunders on the field goal unit, kickoff and punt coverage did its job and, heck, Amari Rodgers even had a 20-yard punt return! As nice as this is, I refuse to get too excited about the positive play of special teams. We've been here before. This unit will need to do it consistently, week in and week out, before I get too enthusiastic. For now, hold.

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Gunnar Davis is a lifelong Packers fan and a recent graduate of Simpson College, where he was a 3-year letterwinner on the offensive line and graduated with a degree in multimedia communications. You can follow him on Twitter at @Gunnar57Davis.

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T7Steve's picture

September 21, 2022 at 12:21 pm

Do you think they should put Savage in the slot with the speed to make up for mistakes, and Douglass back at safety with his tackling and smarts?

I've been thinking about this as a luxury for a while but, suddenly something has to be done to get him back on track.

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LLCHESTY's picture

September 21, 2022 at 10:13 pm

I think it's a possibility but you might be taking away something Douglas does really well to add something Savage does just a little bit better for an overall downgrade. Savage did tell Barry this Spring he'd like to play some nickel. It wouldn't hurt to sprinkle some calls in where they change rolls and see how it goes but I'd do it very gradually.

I think we an all agree Douglas is the better tackler.

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Coldworld's picture

September 22, 2022 at 08:23 am

Douglas is also a much bigger man.

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 21, 2022 at 11:01 pm

He is supposed to be a free safety and use his speed to cover the deep end. If he had any moxy, they would use him up close to fill on the running plays, shoot the gap to the QB and help control the hook zones. The guy was a One pick and they traded up to get him. A so-so career to date.

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splitpea1's picture

September 21, 2022 at 12:38 pm

Buy: Gary. He really started to get on a roll with the impact plays during Week 4 last season. Here's hoping it happens a week earlier this year. Line him up in multiple spots.

Sell: The DL rotation beyond Clark. Wasn't this supposed to be a strength? It's still early, but I'm getting a little impatient.

Sell: Deguara. Another third-round pick relegated mainly to special teams.

Hold: Rodgers, MLF, and Barry. With one of our less challenging opponents out of the way, now it's back to reality. We need to see some intelligent game plans and execution here....and stop burning the timeouts early!

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T7Steve's picture

September 21, 2022 at 01:38 pm

Those time outs are really irritating and will cost us sooner or later. How many memorable scores/drives in the last seconds of the half has Rodgers made that wouldn't have happened without time outs? I don't mind wasting them as much in the first half if there needs to be an adjustment but, not for just taking too long to get a play called.

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 21, 2022 at 11:06 pm

Reed had some good moments last game. Lowry is again being pushed around on early downs. Against the Bears, the coaches thought Getsy would go all panic mode like their modus operandi and expected a passing attack. The Bears gashed them and poor fills by the ILBs didn't help. Slaton was a key cog on the goal line stand. See how they fair against Brady and Fournette.

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croatpackfan's picture

September 22, 2022 at 03:05 am

Look again, Bears run on the right side of the Packers D (Reed, not Lowry). Why? Because Lowry was closing gaps efficiently. Despite I do not care a much of PFF Reed was the worst marked DL on Packers against run!

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

September 22, 2022 at 02:03 am

I haven't been Deguara's biggest fan, but he had a nice day as a blocker.

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 22, 2022 at 09:54 am

Apparently, he is their Fullback. He can work the flats and all that for the short-yardage downs and move the chains. Hopefully, Rodgers is re-programing his mandala to makes full use of the scheme.

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Leatherhead's picture

September 21, 2022 at 01:02 pm

Gunnar, there are 5 guys on the offensive line. One of them is ALWAYS going to be the lowest graded. Would you rather it be our Left Tackle? Our Center?

Left tackle, most important. Then Center, because he handles the ball on every play and calls out blocking assignment. Then RT. Then LG. Then RG is least important. Ron Wolf said you could find a RG anywhere, and he was right. If we replaced Newman with Tom, or Rhyan, or Hanson, then they'd be our lowest graded Olineman at the least important position on the Oline.

Newman played well enough for us to win 13 games with him. He struggled early but got better. He's fine at RG, and if he has to be replaced because of injury, you'll see that.

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Rarescope's picture

September 21, 2022 at 02:26 pm

I was wondering about that lowest graded comment. I thought he meant lowest graded in the NFL - that would be pretty bad. But, if it's as you say and he's lowest on the Packers, that ain't saying much of anything at all.

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Coldworld's picture

September 22, 2022 at 08:37 am

Last week that was mostly because of the holding penalty. He gave up one pressure but others gave up more. That hiding penalty was dubious and he held far less than others and less egregiously than others not called.

PFF had a howler on grading that game across all positions. I gather they’ve changed personnel. It’s not good and it’s pretty misleading in terms of Lowry/Reed for example. In the case of Newman I don’t buy it either on rewatching.

Newman got a lot of stick early last year deservedly because he misread plays. He got a lot of stick because he was played at T and he isn’t one. That isn’t deserved and it’s not determinative if his play at G. That’s not his fault and he was good as a G late last year at G and an enormous improvement over Hanson last week. I don’t give any credence to the PFF grades last week, let’s see if they up their game, but they need to. Let’s hope that as Jenkins settles so the rest of the unit continues to improve. Newman helped him out a few times early too, if you go and rewatch.

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GunnarDavis's picture

September 21, 2022 at 06:04 pm

Leatherhead, in my opinion, he’s a decent-enough player, and I agree with your notion about right guards. But for the sake of the article I have to sell SOMEONE, haha

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

September 22, 2022 at 02:05 am

I like Newman, and think he can develop as a RG if the coaches and injuries would just let him settle in there.

That said, selling Newman is reasonable. He was below average, but he finally got back to where he ought to have been all along.

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Doug_In_Sandpoint's picture

September 22, 2022 at 06:32 am

I think the case could be made for selling Meyers. I don’t think that this was his best outing. We could use some improved play at the C position.

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Coldworld's picture

September 22, 2022 at 08:40 am

He’s good pulling in the run game. He’s not yet consistent in other aspects, but he’s essentially had few healthy games and was dealing with a black hole to his right in week one. I think he will benefit from playing with a settled pair on his left and right as well as from just playing.

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 21, 2022 at 11:12 pm

Well, Wolf was lucky with the Timmerman pick and he went on to a Pro Bowl later with the Rams and winning another SB. The other guard was a One Pick with Taylor.

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Coldworld's picture

September 21, 2022 at 01:03 pm

I’m ignoring PFF grades until they stop being screwy. Just plain odd what they assign to whom and it doesn’t get better on rewatch.

I’m ignoring your take in on Newman as (a) he’s not playing tackle, (b) he was actually probably better than Runyon in the last quarter last year and (c) the penalty was dubious and particularly so given the non calls for widespread holding. I could add that PFF was having a melt down of miss assignment all over that game. So sell Newman. I will buy him and just be thankful we have a potentially settled O line that I’ve some faith in even without Bakh.

Selling Amari. Sorry, you can’t muff those types of catches and definitely not in September and expect me to have faith in you in November. That bounce could just have easily have set up for the defender to run it right back.

I’m looking to buy a run stuffer. Come on Slaton, show me you can. Reed is much better disrupting. Despite PFF unaccountably giving Lowry free passes, letting folk run right by him counts as a missed tackle for me. I’d like to buy a Heflin for this week too.

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13TimeChamps's picture

September 21, 2022 at 02:28 pm

"Selling Amari. Sorry, you can’t muff those types of catches and definitely not in September and expect me to have faith in you in November. That bounce could just have easily have set up for the defender to run it right back."

This is starting to become a disturbing trend. He put it on the carpet at least twice last year and now again in game 2 of this season. But, according to Leatherhead, because the other team didn't recover any of them, it doesn't matter. I just don't agree with that logic. It's sloppy football, and a price will be paid eventually.

A third round draft pick that the team traded up for is now playing behind 2 rookies on offense. In fact, he hasn't touched the ball once on offense this year. He's looking more and more replaceable as a returner as well.

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T7Steve's picture

September 21, 2022 at 02:46 pm

Maybe the Bears are the ones who hacked the jugs machine!

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GregC's picture

September 21, 2022 at 05:45 pm

If a player returns punts for an entire year, isn't it expected that he will mishandle at least a couple of them, and maybe more than that? Especially if he is returning both punts and kickoffs. I'm pretty sure that Desmond Howard muffed a couple during his great season in 1996. There probably aren't stats on this because I doubt that anyone keeps track of muffs and fumbles that are not turnovers.

Game 2 is early for this to happen, but I'm not worried at this point. Last year Cobb returned one punt and muffed it. In the preseason,, Tyler Goodson, who is often touted here as a superior player to Amari Rodgers, received a kickoff near the goal line and completely butchered the play and got buried inside the five-yard-line. You can't expect perfection, and I still think Amari looks significantly better as a returner than he did last year.

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Johnblood27's picture

September 21, 2022 at 11:17 pm

really?

better than last year?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Coldworld's picture

September 22, 2022 at 08:53 am

Let me ask you this, a question someone else posed elsewhere this morning which got me thinking.

David Moore, whom we brought in before and Drayton/LaFleur left inactive to our almost universal amazement, is a free agent. Who would you trust more to catch and which if them do you think would be a bigger threat once the return commences?

My immediate reaction and my current one is that I’d rather have Moore. I think he’d be a better emergency game day option on O too perhaps.

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Coldworld's picture

September 22, 2022 at 09:32 am

Desmond Howard returned 156 punts and had 12 Fumbles over his career. Amari Rodgers has fumbled 3 times in 24. Moore (referenced later in this thread) has 5 in 50.

Respectively therefore, their ratios of returns to fumbles are:

Howard: 1 in 13
Rodgers: 1 in 8
More: 1 in 10.

Since Moore and Howard both had over a 1000 yards receiving, it’s possible that some of those fumbles occurred on O. I couldn’t find that breakout, which is why I didn’t cite Hester as a comparative. So the above could be overly favorable to Rodgers.

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Leatherhead's picture

September 22, 2022 at 01:04 pm

I notice that you aren't including the fair catches. He caught 28 punts last year, and quite a few kickoffs. He was charged by the NFL with one fumble (which went out of bounds) I know you think a fumble is a fumble, but it isn't. That's like saying that any missed block on a passing play should be counted as a sack, even if no sack resulted.

If Desmond Howard returned 2 or 3 punts a game, he'd have 3 or 4 fumbles in a season, any one of which could cost a game. And he's one of the better ones.

So, I'm going to ask again: Why are we returning punts? So that we can get that long, exciting TD run that you get every couple of years? Doesn't it make more sense to catch the ball and give it to the offense instead of risking injury, turnover, or penalty?

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GregC's picture

September 23, 2022 at 05:20 am

Sorry I lost track of this thread, I was traveling all day yesterday. I wish the stats on this were more detailed, but thanks for looking them up. I do think that Rodgers was a bit shaky with his ball handling on punt returns last year, and he was not a dynamic returner by any means. I was disappointed when he was still the front runner for the job at the beginning of training camp. I thought he looked better in the preseason, though: more confident with his ball handling, and he even broke off one long return. In the first two games of the regular season, he has still looked pretty good to me. He's already had one long return, although it was not a special one because it was blocked up so well. The muff was a little concerning, but as muffs go, it was not a particularly bad one. It dropped right in front of him, and he easily picked it back up and maybe even advanced it a few yards. At this point, I don't think it would be worth bringing in someone like Moore.

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Leatherhead's picture

September 22, 2022 at 10:27 am

Yes, Greg, it is. By reasonable people at least. The top 20 returners last year were charged with 23 fumbles. Seven of them had multiple fumbles. Why? Because it's hard. As you pointed out, Cobb muffed it, Goodson screwed it up, and Hill broke himself doing the same thing.

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Rebecca's picture

September 21, 2022 at 05:47 pm

He just needs 2 or 3 more years to develop confidence.

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Leatherhead's picture

September 21, 2022 at 06:09 pm

"But, according to Leatherhead, because the other team didn't recover any of them, it doesn't matter."

If you feel the need to drag me into stuff, at least get it right. I've never said it "doesn't matter", it just doesn't matter as much because you don't turn it over, which is worse.

If you want to start throwing stones at "sloppy" play, you'd better start with a good size pile, because it's only the second week of the season, not mid-season, not the playoffs. I wish he'd catch every one cleanly, but I know that's not reality. Crap happens all the time on punts and kicks and has for over 100 years despite the best efforts of the greatest coaches in history.

My suggestion remains: Stop returning punts. Don't return kicks you don't have to. The percentages are against you on these.

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13TimeChamps's picture

September 21, 2022 at 07:41 pm

The odds of Amari Rodgers ever becoming worthy of a 3rd round pick, at this point, are against him, no matter how much you use the "ya but, he's a 2nd day pick" argument.

My suggestion: Make Rodgers inactive for 2-3 games and let one of the rookies, including Toure, return kicks and let the chips fall as they may, regardless of where they were drafted. If Rodgers wins the battle, so be it.

I'm so tired of the "where they were drafted" crap. Put the best players on the field.

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Leatherhead's picture

September 22, 2022 at 10:24 am

"Becoming worthy of a 3rd round pick" .. In whose eyes? Yours? Or is there some objective measure of what a 3rd round pick is worth?

My suggestion: Make yourself inactive when one of the rookies fumbles a punt.

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13TimeChamps's picture

September 21, 2022 at 08:26 pm

"If you want to start throwing stones at "sloppy" play, you'd better start with a good size pile, because it's only the second week of the season, not mid-season, not the playoffs."

Amari Rodgers played extensively in all 3 preseason games, so stop with his "second week of the season" nonsense. How many games, in your opinion, will it take him to field punts cleanly?

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Leatherhead's picture

September 22, 2022 at 09:49 am

You've never tried to catch a real punt, have you? Or here's a better one: What percent of punts is fielded "cleanly" in the NFL on any particular weekend? Because I see bloopers in games all the time, not just in Green Bay.

You are apparently unfamiliar with the term "mid-season form" or what it means. I'll get back to you on that around mid-season.

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 22, 2022 at 10:01 am

In any event, they are getting paid beaucoup dollars to make the plays efficiently. This guy would not be around if Holmgren was running this show...

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13TimeChamps's picture

September 22, 2022 at 10:04 am

What the hell does my being able to catch a punt have to do with anything being discussed here?

"I'll get back to you on that around mid-season."

Please don't bother. Are you ever able to avoid being condescending whenever someone disagrees with you? Grow the fuck up.

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Leatherhead's picture

September 22, 2022 at 10:21 am

"Grow the fuck up". But once again, Al isn't going to do anything about this. You are a multiple repeat offender.

You are talking about something you know nothing about.

The 20 top returners last year, by attempts and yards, had 23 fumbles charged to them last year. And these are the best in the business. Why aren't they perfect? Because it's freakin' hard, which you'd know if you ever tried it.

But no, stand on the sideline and scratch yourself and speak knowledgeably about competence. You don't have a clue. It'd be like me commenting knowledgeably on brain surgery.

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Coldworld's picture

September 22, 2022 at 10:59 am

It is hard. There’s no doubt about that. Although it is a lot less difficult at this time of year than it will be. However, that’s not a defense that should shield Rodgers. He’s below average in terms of fumbles per attempt. That means he should be a candidate for replacement. Never mind his yards per return.

There is not much out there at this time of year. That doesn’t change the fact that Rodgers should be seen as a potential liability l as a returner. Moore is out there, but maybe his off field habits are unacceptable. Ervin hasn’t played but maybe, I think Tavon Austin is on a PS. I would think there are some others on Gute’s boards. None excite, but Rodgers isn’t noticeably better or safer than those retreads.

However, we do have internal candidates. Our best punt return option may be Doubs. It may become necessary to try him. Kick returners are more common and Watson always seemed ideal, for reasons if speed and what we’ve seen on gadget plays.

Is now the time to pull the trigger? Maybe not, but one more potential giveaway of a game changer like last week and it will be time to give it very serious consideration.

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LLCHESTY's picture

September 21, 2022 at 10:25 pm

Yep, why not wait til he muffs one in the playoffs the other team recovers to think about finding a decent returner. React AFTER it happens, not before.

I find it hard to believe it's that hard to find an average returner with better hands and, just as importantly, awareness than Rodgers shows. In fact I know it's not that hard because they brought that guy in late last year that had a couple nice returns and then left him inactive for the playoff game, I guess because Rodgers was going to have a viral role on the offense.

I'm perfectly fine with keeping him on the PS and giving him a last chance next TC but if he's on the roster once Hill returns draftocracy has reared it's ugly head to the detriment of the team.

* The returners name was David Moore last year, but his average was only 3 yards better than Rodgers so 🤷

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Coldworld's picture

September 22, 2022 at 09:04 am

He’s had 5 fumbles over 50 returns (if none of them come from his 1100 yards of offense). He only played one game with us before LaFleur returned to Rodgers, but 3 yards is a lot on punt average, though he exceeded his career average. He also returns kicks. Let’s start with that. He’s got 13 offensive TDs and 1100 yards. That suggests we could use him on game day too if injuries occurred. Is he a great returner? Not in the sense of a threat to score, he’s reliable and has a decent average. Is he one I’d have more faith in? I think so.

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Leatherhead's picture

September 22, 2022 at 10:13 am

I know this is a waste of time, but here it is:

Amari Rodgers returned 20 punts last year, good for a tie for 19th. The punt returners who fielded more were credited with 23 fumbles, but I don't know if they were turnovers or not. Seven of those guys had multiple fumbles.

Here's some footage of David Moore (before he was busted for guns and drugs this summer)

https://www.seahawks.com/video/david-moore-bobbles-and-recovers-for-4-yards

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Coldworld's picture

September 22, 2022 at 10:28 am

Once it’s a fumble I don’t care whether it’s recovered. That’s luck not judgment. No one fumbles tactically.

Rodgers has 3 fumbles on 24 returns. A rate of 1 in 8. That’s not particularly good and his yards per return aren’t all that impressive either (not that you believe in after the catch yards I know). Regardless of what Moore the man is, he’s an example of an average but reliable returner. I wouldn’t call him stellar, just decent and thus a viable comparative.

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Leatherhead's picture

September 22, 2022 at 10:45 am

I don't think he's in the league. I get your point about a fumble is a fumble, but a fumble that's recovered by the opponent is a turnover, and that's bad. A fumble that you fall on is more like an incomplete pass, except on a punt it doesn't cost you a down.

I'd like better ball security from my punt catcher. If Rodgers turns it over, he doesn't have any value to us. As it is, as both punt and kick returner, he hasn't turned it over yet.

I know punt returns get screwed up all the time, and they always have, at every level for at least 50 years, despite the best efforts of some very good coaches. That's why I wouldn't return punts, as I've frequently stated.

Catch the ball and give it to the offense. Don't turn it over or pick up penalties and injuries trying to return it.

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Coldworld's picture

September 22, 2022 at 11:09 am

A fumble recovery is luck on many levels. That can’t be controlled or played for. It’s just a die roll. Rodgers has a fumble rate that is higher than it should be. That’s not good and the next 3 could all go to the opponents. I don’t know if Doubs can be better, but I do think we are close to the point where we need to find out.

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Leatherhead's picture

September 22, 2022 at 11:53 am

His fumble rate is higher than it should be.....based on the way you calculate it. The way the NFL calculates it is different. He hasn't had a turnover yet. Most punt returners can't say that.

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Coldworld's picture

September 22, 2022 at 01:44 pm

Fumble is a fumble. Whether it’s a turnover is luck and therefore no defense.

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Leatherhead's picture

September 22, 2022 at 02:54 pm

So if a lineman whiffs on a block but the QB gets rid of it, does that missed block count as a sack?

Is an interception an interception? Because I know full well that they aren't all the same. So why is a fumble you fall on right away the same thing as a turnover?

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ImaPayne's picture

September 21, 2022 at 01:31 pm

I've beaten Stokes worse then you would an old mule. To me he is dummer then a chia pet. He made a nice tackle from behind and actually broke up a pass. I thought maybe he is coming around.
No a few plays later, on his side the field again, he stood there and wathed two of his cohorts try and make a tackle and he just got out of the way. This guy is afraid of contact. He cant cover and doesnt know what an interception is. He's never had one.
I say put him and Safety and he can use his speed to close in on faster receivers. He just cant play corner, not bright enough and afraid to bang heads.

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Leatherhead's picture

September 21, 2022 at 01:35 pm

I would put in a buy on Jordan Love, and not because of anything he did. The three QBs taken before him....Burrow, Herbert, Tua.....have all looked like NFL QBs. The guy taken after him, Jalen Hurts, is looking pretty good this season.

All of those players went to teams worse than the Packers. None of them was learning on the bench behind the league's MVP. When Love starts playing, I'm assuming he'll be an average of those guys, not that he's going to be the worst by far.

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splitpea1's picture

September 21, 2022 at 03:12 pm

Hurts has developed beautifully--truly a dual threat with play-calling tailored to his strengths.

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Minniman's picture

September 21, 2022 at 05:50 pm

He's really worked on his accuracy and decision making - for sure.

When he got usurped at Alabama by Tua, it was completely warranted - he was on a far shallower development trajectory when he was the starting QB at Alabama.

Nick Saban did that guy a favor - and while I didn't see him play lights-out a Oklahoma, he's certainly displaying the fruits of 3 years of hard work since being benched at Alabama.

I want him to succeed - for all the toilers out there - "training beats talent, when talent doesn't train".

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LLCHESTY's picture

September 21, 2022 at 10:35 pm

Trading down for Hurts instead of up for Love when you have no intention of playing either for a few years makes a lot of sense. At least if he has to come in for an injured starter he can do a lot of damage with his legs. Then Gutey drafts L'Jarius Sneed one pick ahead of the Chiefs with that kept 4th round pick and he easily covers Scotty Miller in the NFCCG. SB!

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stockholder's picture

September 21, 2022 at 04:53 pm

Not me! I picked Hurts as the guy to take that draft. In the 2nd rd.

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September 21, 2022 at 02:44 pm

I am going to be a little bit controversial - Sell - AJ Dillon - take out that one 11 yarder - he was under 3 per carry - and he needs to be a bulldozer - bad blocking some of that but - not bulldozing guys. If we ever have a chance of running over guys in the red zone - especially inside the 5 - we need him to the odd time run over guys and get the ball into the end zone - it will make the other teams respect that more. Sell - our tackling period in padded practice - havent learned a whole bunch - Dline didnt wrap up and our Dbacks didnt stick anybody - Montgomery had too many yards after contact - and he doesnt Juke like Jones.
Buy - our punter - only 2 punts - but that is what we need - hopefully he can do it in the cold - he should at least win his match in Tampa

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September 21, 2022 at 05:24 pm

I loved Dillon’s runs when we were pinned back on our goal line, and I thought he did what we needed him to, but I can’t argue it was his best day. Al pointed out, he wasn’t playing to his blockers well. The good news is that he still gets enough done, the bad is that he’s doing all the hard work and not taking the easy yards. From my understanding of Dillon and Jones, they will have seen and be working in that even without the coaches though.

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September 21, 2022 at 07:30 pm

Dont get me wrong - I loved Dillon from the selection. And I wanted to see them together - just thought that outside of that one run and a couple shorter ones he didnt make the Bears pay. And when Jones is out there with him - that should open things up. But I guess he can be a little bit off some games. I would like to see it when he has one of his games like last year and Jones has a game like he did against the Bears - think that that would deadly - And then if Caleb Jones gets into the game on those goal line plays - Red zone efficiency uptick.

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September 21, 2022 at 10:43 pm

I'd rather see Tom as the extra TE than Jones. In short yardage size doesn't mean as much as suddenness and staying low. Actually Nijman would be a good mix of both once Bakhtiari is back.

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September 22, 2022 at 11:14 am

I think on the kind of plays he is thinking of, you really want a man mountain as a lead guy. I’d play Tom as an extra pass protector “TE” but not as an extra “FB”. Nijman is the more obvious candidate if he’s not playing full time, I agree. Unless Tom can catch? If he could we could use him as the next stealth red zone catcher—the new Tauscher?

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September 21, 2022 at 10:38 pm

Well they could start by not putting Rodgers in shotgun and forcing Dillon to run sideways in short yardage situations, besides teeing off the defense on what side of the formation the ball is going. It's asinine and needs to stop.

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September 21, 2022 at 11:22 pm

mlf telegraphs a lot of his plays by package and formation.

he thinks he is being tricky, but all he does is make AR run the clock down trying to get the defense to think one more thought than mlf has already overthought. Yup, I said it.

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September 21, 2022 at 11:24 pm

Bingo !

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Coldworld's picture

September 22, 2022 at 11:17 am

I think that was an option call. I don’t like it, the chosen option or the formation.

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