Allen Lazard back from reserve/COVID-19 list

The team also placed both Kylin Hill and Robert Tonyan on injured reserve. 

The Packers announced today that they have activated wide receiver Allen Lazard off the Covid-19 reserve list. 

Lazard's fellow wide receiver Davante Adams remains on the reserve list. However, head coach Matt LaFleur indicated during his Monday press conference that Adams could be activated off the list on Thursday. 

The team could get defensive coordinator Joe Barry back on Thursday as well. 

The Packers also announced that they have placed running back Kylin Hill and tight end Robert Tonyan on injured reserve. Neither are expected to be able to return this season. 

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SanLobo's picture

November 01, 2021 at 03:13 pm

Good news. Let’s hope that’s all we hear for the rest of the season.

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calabasa's picture

November 01, 2021 at 06:08 pm

ESPN, re Lazard:

"Lazard was deemed a close contact of Adams, and because Lazard is unvaccinated, he was automatically ruled out for five days."

Not carrying the G.

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Bitternotsour's picture

November 01, 2021 at 07:16 pm

truly. disregarding the team. it may be I when you're inside your house, but once you walk in the building, it's we. he let the team down.

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Gman1976's picture

November 01, 2021 at 08:29 pm

No he did not. He was just looking out for his health. I am vaccinated and I am regretting it. For those who aren’t widely read, there are many bad side affects including the deaths of 1,000s. Just read those outside the propaganda zone. Many well educated doctors and nurses don’t recommend it for all sorts of reasons.

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Swisch's picture

November 01, 2021 at 10:26 pm

The NFL is supposedly all about empowering players, but doesn't support their right to refuse a foreign substance of little known effect being injected into their bodies.
I guess it's all just a cynical pose by the NFL, because now it seems to be telling players to keep their mouths shut.
Last season, before the shot, I don't remember any NFL players being seriously harmed by COVID.
Check out Alex Berenson (former reporter for the New York Times) at substack.com reporting on a professional soccer player collapsing on the field from a cardiac arrest (Emil Palsson, 28, of Iceland -- where 84% of people 16-29 are fully vaccinated).
See also America's Frontline Doctors.
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All the best to you, Gman1976, including good health. God bless!

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calabasa's picture

November 02, 2021 at 09:31 am

My friend, it's not about football players getting sick. It's about giving the virus less places to spread and mutate, and stopping it for good. Please remember there are millions of immune-surpressed people who don't have the option of getting vaccinated. By allowing the virus to continue to thrive, healthy football players like Lazard who are only thinking about themselves, and we as a society, are endangering the health of the less fortunate.

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Guam's picture

November 02, 2021 at 08:39 am

You might want to provide some documentation of the assertion the vaccine has caused thousands of deaths. I have seen nothing on that topic and I also am "widely read". I also know dozens of medical professionals (doctors, nurses and pharmacists) and everyone of them is vaccinated and also strongly advocate that everyone get vaccinated.

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13TimeChamps's picture

November 02, 2021 at 09:03 am

"For those who aren’t widely read, there are many bad side affects including the deaths of 1,000s."

Like Guam, I am also "widely read". Please provide a link that verifies your claim that thousands have died.

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Swisch's picture

November 02, 2021 at 12:01 pm

From the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), the number of deaths from the shot is reportedly more than 9,000.
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In more sports news from Alex Berenson, this time from the NBA, Nic Claxton (noteworthy on the court for his high energy, as I remember it) of the Brooklyn Nets appears to have suffered a serious effect from the shot that is keeping him on the sidelines.
Ironically, he's a teammate of Kyrie Irving, who has famously refused the shot and been severely punished -- apparently without any support from the NBA for Kyrie's freedom and dignity.
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/why-athletes-matter/comments
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The government seems to be playing a statistical game of exaggerating the adverse effects of COVID, but underplaying the adverse effects from the shot.
Allen Lazard's risk from a serious adverse effect from COVID may be less than 1/10,000, but his risk from the shot may actually be higher.
If we care about our Packers as persons as well as players, it seems we should be highly reluctant to pressure them to get the shot.
I would encourage Packers players to speak out courageously for their rights as men. It was easy last season to disrespect America; nowadays, it takes guts to speak out against the pressure to get shots (and the apparent gag order on players).
I'm wondering if in essence the NFL is indeed a plantation in which the players may be highly paid, but are still largely subservient to mostly rich white owners.
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P.S. Those with immune deficiencies are also at risk from those who have received the shots, because these people can still get and spread COVID.
Apparently, Davante got the shot but still got COVID, and was a risk to spreading it to Lazard.

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13TimeChamps's picture

November 02, 2021 at 12:05 pm

I'm still waiting for a credible link that supports your claim that there has been more than 9,000 deaths from taking the Covid vaccine.

I'll wait.

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Swisch's picture

November 02, 2021 at 12:42 pm

Centers for Disease Control (CDC).
While I don't consider the CDC particularly credible, I would guess that those who trust the government do.
See the heading at the CDC site: "Selected Adverse Events Reported after COVID-19 Vaccination."

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13TimeChamps's picture

November 02, 2021 at 12:57 pm

That's not a link. That's just you typing words.

Here is an actual LINK from the CDC:
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-10-22/cdc-study-co...

And another:
https://covid-101.org/science/how-many-people-have-died-from-the-vaccine...

People die every day. Just because someone dies a week...a month...three months after getting vaccinated doesn't prove they died from the vaccine. Every credible source I've researched agrees there is an extremely low chance of dying directly from the vaccine. Use some damn common sense and stop getting your "proof" from ridiculous publications like the Epoch Times that distort data to convince people like you.

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Rebecca's picture

November 02, 2021 at 01:59 pm

Yes yes yes thank you for spelling it out for the idiots and their bullshit.

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Lphill's picture

November 01, 2021 at 06:39 pm

What a mistake Hill made on that return , hope he makes it back .

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Rebecca's picture

November 01, 2021 at 08:37 pm

Athleticism and intelligence/good judgement don’t necessarily go together. On the other hand he’s a running back and we know that they love to run that ball.

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aberk's picture

November 02, 2021 at 06:40 am

Gman.. you're a fool. Everything you said about the vaccine is inaccurate. Purely political.

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Guam's picture

November 02, 2021 at 08:47 am

I wouldn't be surprised to see Lazard pick up some of Tonyan's TE routes (not his in-line blocking assignments, but his pass routes) as he has the size to us his body as a shield against in coming linebackers and safeties. ESB or Taylor could pick up Lazard's WR2 routes as they have become willing enough blockers as well as receivers. Between Daffney picking up some of Tonyan's in-line blocking assignments and some routes and Lazard picking up some TE pass routes, the Packers may be able to replace Tonyan's snaps without adding another TE.

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Leatherhead's picture

November 02, 2021 at 12:09 pm

I don't know if it'll be Lazard will be the beneficiary, but I do think we can replace Tonyan's contributions with guys we have on the roster. Tonyan has been targeted 29 times in 8 games. That's about 3 or 4 targets per game. Deguara has only been targeted 0.5 times/per game, so I'd see him as first in line to see more targets.

With MVS returning, he'll need a target or two. And I think everybody likes seeing the ball go to Dillon or Jones. So I think we'll find ways around not having Tonyan.

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Leatherhead's picture

November 02, 2021 at 12:16 pm

I'm an Old School guy, and I think it's wrong to force people to do stuff against their will, particularly if there is benefit to other people. So if Lazard doesn't want the vax, for whatever reason, I'm fine with that.

It was wrong when we forced 12 million Africans to relocate to the New World. It was wrong when we forced Native Americans onto the reservations. It was wrong when the Nazis forced the Jews into camps. It's wrong when a man forces a woman to have sex with him. It's wrong. It's always wrong.

I love my freedom. I do. I'm a college educated guy. I talked with my doctor. I talked with my wife, who is a senior research scientist. I talked with her colleagues. I talked with friends . I read what I could find and I made my decision. That's how it's supposed to be. I have the RIGHT to make my own decisions about things like this, and if you think you can take that away from me, it makes me wonder what else you can take away from me.

I do not trust the media, or the government, or political figures, and haven't since the 60s. That's why I don't want them making decisions for me, or for you, or for anybody else. Resist Authoritarianism. It's better to have a nation full of people that's free to make bad choices than a nation that isn't.

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Note on the exchange above about "well-read". Reading is good. It is. But when you're sailing through a sea of misinformation, you have to rely on the North star, Polaris, . Denzel Washington said "If you don't follow the news, you're uninformed. If you do, you're misinformed". Sadly, I think that's true. If you're looking for truth, you're not going to find it on the TV News, or Google, or from the government.

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13TimeChamps's picture

November 02, 2021 at 12:20 pm

"I talked with my doctor. I talked with my wife, who is a senior research scientist. I talked with her colleagues. I talked with friends . I read what I could find and I made my decision. That's how it's supposed to be."

And that's exactly how one should go about it. And "well read" doesn't just mean reading. It refers to examining all available data from credible sources. As opposed to certain poster on here who has admitted getting his information from The Epoch Times, a publication that has ties to Q'Anon and has been universally recognized as one of biggest purveyors of misinformation concerning the vaccine/virus.

I agree, in most cases, people should not be forced to take the vaccine. But there will be certain consequences to that decision...like Lazard being held out of the last game. I did my diligent research and decided to get vaccinated. My decision. And it had nothing to do with resisting or conforming to Authoritarianism. It had to do with common sense.

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Swisch's picture

November 02, 2021 at 01:02 pm

I also have a link above to former New York Times reporter Alex Berenson (who has a book coming out later this month, "Pandemia"), as well as referring people to America's Frontline Doctors (actually real medical doctors).
By the way, I stand behind the Epoch Times as a reliable source of information. Your statement that it's been universally condemned isn't backed by any credible sources. (I would probably consider your sources to be non-credible, anyway, after all the stories they've put out over the years that are incredible. By contrast -- other than vague rumors -- what has the Epoch Times gotten wrong?)
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Not only Lazard had to suffer consequences of questionable fairness, but the whole team had to suffer, as well as we fans.
Aren't we supposed to care about the players as persons with the right to stand up for themselves without unfair punishments?
Isn't that what the NFL is all about, empowering players? Or is it a charade to distract from things like the commissioner's salary?
How come we rarely hear from players like Lazard about their concerns regarding the shot. Where is their voice as men of dignity?

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13TimeChamps's picture

November 02, 2021 at 01:30 pm

I give up. Anyone who utters the words "I stand behind the Epoch Times as a reliable source of information" is beyond help. They make Fox News, OANN and Breitbart seem liberal by comparison. You do realize they support Q'Anon as well, right?

Show me ONE credible source that backs up your claim that there has been over 9,000 deaths directly attributed to the Covid vaccine and we can continue this conversation. Otherwise, I feel my IQ dropping every time I interact with you.

I'm done.

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Leatherhead's picture

November 02, 2021 at 03:37 pm

Swisch, you have the right to believe the Epoch Times, CNN, Bloomberg, Breitbart, or Pravda, or Al Jazeera. The only real freedom any of us have is the freedom to figure out things for ourselves. We live in a time where talking heads tell us what we should think. Reject that. Ask the question “why do they want me to think that?” If the answer isn’t power or money, you need to look much harder.

I’m not pro vax, I’m not anti vax. I’m pro-freedom. Always have been and have no plans to change.

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Guam's picture

November 02, 2021 at 02:52 pm

Despite my earlier post Leatherhead, I happen to agree with you. Everyone has the right to make their own decision. My daughter is unvaccinated because of a auto immune condition and both her family doctor and her immunologist have recommended she not get the vaccine because of the risk of a serious reaction. I am vaccinated because I did my research and because I could. I understand both decisions.

I would make two additional observations however. (1) Making a choice to remain unvaccinated does not immunize you from criticism. Other people retain their right to critique your decision, particularly when your decision adversely impacts others. Lazard negatively impacted the Packers last Thursday night with his decision. (2) People who distribute propaganda rather than informed data should also expect to be criticized. The Epoch Times is rubbish and if they are going to quote facts from a source like that, they should expect some push back.

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Swisch's picture

November 02, 2021 at 06:02 pm

Along with the Epoch Times, I also listed former New York Times reporter Alex Berenson, plus America's Frontline Doctors.
By the way, who says the Epoch Times is rubbish? Is it other media sources who disagree with the Epoch Times, such as the media sources who have seemingly downplayed the role of China in apparently causing the worldwide outbreak of COVID, with a toll of millions of deaths?
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In answer to 13TimeChamps:
I gave a link above to Alex Berenson writing about the relevance of athletes having bad reactions to the shot -- because this is so relevant to our guys on the Packers.
Apparently the format here at CHTV won't allow me to post a second direct link -- such as one to the CDC about the 9,000+ reported deaths from the shot (or I just don't know how to do it).
In any case, is it really so hard for intelligent and well-read people to look up the information at the CDC website on their own? I even provided the key words for finding the information (above).
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Finally, I'm just trying to proved information about COVID and the shot as accurately as possible (with regard to its relevance to the Packers and us as fans).
It seems some people just don't want to consider other evidence.
It seems no one ever addresses any of my points in a reasonable way. My specific words are disregarded or misrepresented. It's just trashing me and my sources, and not addressing me with reason or logic or science.
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So with regard to any of my comments, take it or leave it, as is pleasing to each person here. I'm not getting any money or status out of my comments (not even many "likes"). It's done with good will on my part for the benefit of all those here at CHTV, all of whom I consider as friends (although that sincere intention of mine may not be mutual).
Over more than two years, I've consistently tried to treat everyone at CHTV with respect and kindness. I may slip up at times, but I think my overall record is overwhelmingly one of attempted friendship to one and all.
I'm genuinely sad and discouraged, in the present as well as in the past, by some of the responses.

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calabasa's picture

November 02, 2021 at 06:26 pm

This discussion really highlights, as Leatherhead has emphasized, the importance of doing your due diligence when seeking out your source of news, as these days anybody with a computer can declare themselves an expert.

Swisch- the sources you are getting your information from are sketchy at best. According to Wikipedia:

The Epoch Times: as others have said here, it's tied to Quanon, Falun Gong, and conspiracy theories. It is a "far-right international media company" and "little is known about its ownership, origins or influences."

Alex Berenson: "during the pandemic, Berenson appeared frequently in far right-wing media, spreading false claims about COVID-19 and its vaccines." His track record includes writing a book about how cannabis causes psychosis and violence, and apparently even Fox canceled his promised COVID Contrarian show because the pandemic continued to worsen while he said it was nothing to worry about.

America's Frontline Doctors: America's Frontline Doctors (AFLDS) is an American conservative political organization. Affiliated with Tea Party Patriots co-founder Jenny Beth Martin and publicly led by Simone Gold, the group is opposed to measures intended to control the COVID-19 pandemic, including lockdowns and vaccination, and have been accused of promoting misleading information related to the pandemic.

Sooo... please be aware that what you are writing here is MISINFORMATION. And when people like yourself type things like "I'm just trying to proved information about COVID and the shot as accurately as possible" and complain about the lack of "reasonable" debate, you are spreading this MISINFORMATION like an innocent sheep, presenting it as an opposing point of view instead of the dangerous crap it is.

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Swisch's picture

November 02, 2021 at 10:57 pm

calabasa, so now Wikipedia is the final say on what it accurate and what is not?
That's supposed to settle the discussion?
Really?
Well, not for me, not even close.
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Meanwhile, you feel so confident about the way the mainstream media is reporting the news?
What I am seeing and hearing are lies every day.
I'm shocked that people still trust the mainstream media; I would think they'd be looking for alternatives.
As just one example, these are the stellar journalists who tell us that it's reasonable and logical and scientific to allow biological boys to use the girls bathroom.
I would think just that one example, however, would be enough to throw the lot of them into an insane asylum.
Yet, I'm supposedly the crazy one. Well, here's my take: Boys are boys, and girls are girls -- and it's actually cruel to tell them differently. We can't change reality by wishing it away. Lies cause severe suffering, even death.
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Again, no one engages the points I am making by using reasonable debate. It's only a trashing of my sources and me.
As an example of this, could it really be that no one is the least bit taken aback that more than 9,000 deaths from the shot have been reported -- as seen on the CDC website?
That number could be high, but it also could be low. It seems to be only a voluntary reporting of adverse effects. Why isn't there a mandatory reporting of adverse effects that is carefully checked for accuracy?
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Well, again, my sincere best to all.

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calabasa's picture

November 02, 2021 at 06:33 pm

Well said, Leatherhead. Please see my reply above about Lazard not being a team player. I HATE the government and support freedoms of all kinds, including the freedom to think only about ourselves. As a thoughtful older gentleman I would have hoped you'd remember the group sacrifices the country made during the world wars, when the country came together for the good of the whole.

Now, it's all about ourselves. It's demoralizing to see an intelligent American see the effect of the continued spread of the virus on our economy, mental health and yes all the dying Americans, and refuse to take part in ending this pandemic because they are too special to take a FREE vaccine that may protect someone around them from getting sick.

Please tell me you're too special for Medicaid, Social Security, police and fire services, and every other benefit of a society while you're doing your brave freedom fighting.

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Leatherhead's picture

November 02, 2021 at 09:30 pm

I earned those benefits and paid taxes for those services.

You obviously believe that vaccinating everybody ends the pandemic. You have the freedom to believe that. You can choose vaccines, masks, distancing, whatever. Other people have the freedom to make other choices..

You do not get to force me to do things so you can benefit. I don’t get to force you to do things for my benefit. That is the essence of freedom.

You will never convince me that it is selfish to want to make your own decisions.

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calabasa's picture

November 02, 2021 at 11:29 pm

"You obviously believe that vaccinating everybody ends the pandemic."

If it doesn't end it, it will save thousands of lives in the process. How can you disagree with this? That making people far less likely to contract the virus-immunizing them-will result in fewer deaths and a less tolerant environment for the virus to spread?

I know we're both speaking our own truths here, but the fact that this is now an opinion, as opposed to a fact, makes my head absolutely spin. Choosing vaccines and other measures to stop the spread is a choice?? Good god.

As for who benefits, you are obviously only concerned about yourself. Yes, you are free to care only about yourself. Please don't get or spread covid. Thanks.

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Leatherhead's picture

November 03, 2021 at 10:25 am

Freedom to choose means people will make choices you don’t agree with. Alcohol, drugs, pornography, etc. But I’d much rather live in a country where I have the freedom to make bad choices than one where somebody else makes the choices for me.

I don’t just care about myself; I realize that if you have the power to force people, it impacts everybody. Today it’s the vaccine….what about tomorrow?

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calabasa's picture

November 03, 2021 at 11:08 am

Well, you got your answer. Aaron Rodgers has it now. At least he has the "freedom" to catch it as it makes its way around the facilities.

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Irish_Cheesehead's picture

November 03, 2021 at 11:11 am

Why the hell are you posting this on a football site???

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