Is your title a rhetorical question?

A year from now, if there is another repeat of the last few seasons, we might be asking why the entire staff wasn't let go.

Not as big of a mistake as keeping Coach LaF as the HC.

IMBO,

Pantzy Sinatra

*brilliant

The answer is yes.
I would have titled it as - "Are the Packers Making a Monumental Blunder by Keeping Their Special Teams Coach Whose Name I Shall not Say".

I hear tomorrow there will be an article entitled, “Am I Making a Mistake Sticking My Face In a Running Fan?”

"Gutekunst also indicated he would pay McManus his $1 million roster bonus which means McManus will at least be in training camp to battle for the kicking job again next season. "

Ugh. The cap savings to cut him aren't high (about $2M), but last season was what he was the two years before he came to GB. I think he blinded the Packers with an incredible hot streak in '24 after we'd all been forced to weather a string of bad kickers. Maybe they think that roster bonus is a small price to pay if he rebounds to being more like '24. Havrisik isn't great, but I think he can do what McManus did and for about the league minimum.

"Daniel Whelan led the NFL in average yards per punt. "

Has a great leg, but outkicks his coverage on a regular basis which is part of the reason why the Packers surrender longer returns (17th) and force among the fewest fair catches. If they'd kicked to the corner in the playoff loss rather than surrendering back to back long punt returns in the playoff loss to the Bears?

I never knew Gute was such a comedian with that Bagdad Bob impersonation....

True, the Packers special teams improved in a couple of areas, but that was negated by big mistakes at the worst possible times that cost us games.

The Packers used a total of nine players for kick and punt returns, and not one of them was worth a crap. And that falls on both MLF and Gute. Surely it can't be that hard to find a couple of reliable returners that can be counted on week after week...but it sure as hell is for our "dynamic duo", LOL.

Look for more of the same next season.

This has unfortunately become the Green Bay Way: Keep doing the same thing with the same people in charge and hope for different results.

He's doing what they want him to do. The ST are good where leadership cares about being good. They haven't cared about returns since the 90s. As far as that goes, all they want is someone to secure the ball so the offense can get out there and do their thing. Bisaccia is still extremely well regarded around the league. He'd be unemployed for all of 5 minutes if the Packers fired him. And anyone they brought in to replace him wouldn't fix the perceived issues.

Just a little reminder, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Sometimes poor special teams is a sign of a lack of talent/depth.

Please Dear God don’t Draft another Kicker, Punter and Long Snapper.

I have been a Gute supporter, but if he had a say in keeping the ST coach, it makes me support him much less. I am a long time fan, but to see mediocrity rewarded this off season is very disheartening. We already need a new Policy. Ugh!

The Soothsayer of Pittsburg (Vic) would say something like "your ST play is only as good as the depth of your roster." And it sure seemed to me Holmgren regarded ST as equally important as the defense and offense. So, are there a lot of things at play that the causal/critical fan may not be aware of: is the roster loaded w of sub-par players, is there a reluctance to commit the correct players to ST, poor conditioning (that would exempt off/def starters from playing ST because "I'm tired?"). When I saw Josh Jacobs taking the kick-off in the latest rendition of "one and done," I thought the Packers are finally taking this seriously. MLF is the HC. The buck stops with him.

The Packers had the choice this offseason of letting go of head coach Matt LaFleur or keeping him.
I'd have let go of him, but the Packers decided to not only keep him, but to give him an extension for at least the near future.
So, what's done is done.
I hope I'm the one who is wrong about LaFleur. I think he has shown some good results over the years that give reason for hope, that he just might be able to lead the Packers to a title.
After the decision to keep LaFleur, I'm pretty much okay with whatever he wants to do as far as assistant coaches.
I would have been excited about Jim Leonhard as our new defensive coordinator, but LaFleur wanted someone else.
I would have liked to have moved on from Rich Bisaccia as our special teams coach, but LaFleur didn't want someone else.
Well, whoever LaFleur wants as assistants is pretty much okay with me, as long as he takes a step or two forward to get the most out of his teams -- the satisfying sense that comes with the Packers reaching the fullness of their potential. In other words, leave the heartbreaking and gut-punching season finales in the past, and instead finish strong.
As I understand the situation, LaFleur has two more seasons to put it together with the Packers along with Jordan Love as quarterback.
I think they can do it. I pray for them to do it. I realize there's a lot of uncertainty, but that's life. There's uncertainty with just about every other team in the NFL going forward, too.
So, GPG!!!
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P.S. My main goal is to get past the halftime show at the Super Bowl. With my lack of interest in the teams playing, I might just skip it altogether. My larger concern is that the NFL doesn't continue on its insane path of wokeness, which basically insults the majority of its fans by sending the message that we're a bunch of rubes and bigots.
The condescension is sickening and silly. It seems a diversion from the greed of the millionaires and billionaires who operate the NFL, beginning with the seemingly inept and insipid Roger Goodell trying to justify an income that I estimate amounts to an obscene $40-$60 million per year.
Never underestimate the ability of humans to ruin a great thing.

No he’s the Shemp of Moe Larry and Curly . He fits right in .

I wonder what Gute and MLF see as the secret sauce Rich brings to the culture of the team? I remember when he was hired, and he got some positives from the press for his demeanor in training camp. No one was talking back to coach B, dammit! New sheriff in Titletown.

Next, we had concern Coach B might leave, and seeing managing the time clock and any potential game-altering situation got Coach Matt firmly in a headlock, the Packers made Rich an Asst HC to keep his influence in Green Bay. Didn't want to let him slip though their hands. Here we are.

What do you think? Is Rich the coach that yells at guys when they pee on each other in the shower? Does he enforce curfew? Does he make sure everyone is lined up for the Anthem? Does his lack of attention to detail rub off on our ST crazies? Do the 53 look to him and think "as long as Coach B is on the sideline, we have a chance?"

It seems like the Packers are clinging to a version of Coach B that never was a thing.

I know he's a player's coach, and the Raiders players played hard for him in an interim role back in the day, but jeepers, wtf is this?

I have been critical of Bisaccia and the Packer special teams - hard not to be after Doubs booted the on-side kick against the Bears and gift wrapped the game for our rival. However a look at a ratings service provides a somewhat different view.

LINEUPS ranks every team's special teams across all of the special team functions (kick off and kick off return, punt and punt return, field goals, PATs, etc. etc.) and has done so since the 20-21 season. The rankings are as follows:

Season Coach Ranking
2020 Mennenga 30th
2021 Drayton 24th
2022 Bisaccia 24th
2023 Bisaccia 21st
2024 Bisaccia 12th
2025 Bisaccia 16th

I was surprised the Packer special teams were ranked in the top half of the league for the last two years. Every rating scheme is different and I don't know the details of this one or how well it is regarded, but it is food for thought......

they are going with the same team...keeping everybody. Is that the first time we see that? no. we've seen that many times in the Murphy era...that Is the Mark Murphy stamp...and policy is no different.

So LINEUPS says we're now middle-of-the-pack, in STs. Maybe so., BUT..............
But it's the Snafus that are so Fubar.
Coach B should go.
The Szotman

Excepting the 10 second attention spans of most modern fans some may recall the general gladness when RB was hired as special teams coach. The special teams under McCarthy were awful at times. Never forget the person you hire to replace someone you fire might very well be worse than the person that is there now. Gannon will be viewed under that microscope though Hafley wasn't fired.

Part of RB's problem is the Packers don't draft players exclusively to be on special teams as many teams do. That's a Gute problem.

If most of you feel as though you are going back to the empty well, I would ask why?
There are at least 6-7 teams who are drafting and coaching well-why not learn about those teams, appreciate what is being done correctly and root for them? No one is forced to stay in a bad marriage, drive a lemon or remain in a persecutory religion. It is clear that MLF, Gute and Policy are telegraphing exactly who they are. Next year will be the same and so many will have wasted many precious hours in denial and hope. It is difficult to move off of team but it will save hours of grief. It gets better. Radical acceptance.

Keeping Bisaccia WTF

Yes! And… it will be proven to be a mistake early and often.
Oh, except for Whelan who will excel again other than 19
Hope seems to be the strategy for all other facets of the
Special Teams.

Are the Packers Making a Mistake by Keeping Rich Bisaccia?

Is the pope from Chicago?

RB has been a total failure....how many times on kick-offs and punt returns we get a stupid holding, personal foul, or offside penalty....or screw the pooch on an onside kickoff....TO F...ING often! RB is supposed to be a special teams coach = HE SUCKS BUTTERMILK! All the ratings I've seen have the Packers rated between 30th & 32nd.....WTF are we waiting for?

I hope this isn't a HARBRINGER of things to come with players being kept who have failed to perform or was over paid, like Gary, Jenkins, Hobbs, again WTF! You could also add Banks & Nixon to that list.

As far as the Super Bowl, both teams are outstanding on defense and made major acquisitions through free agency or trades.....Not a Hobbs or Banks.
The halftime show is a joke....Bad Bunny, who hates America and is an absolute idiot who wears dresses....ARE YOU F>>>ing kidding me....I'll be watching TPUSA for the halftime show!

My Son & Grandson are Seahawks fans.....so I'll be rooting for the Seahawks.

The nature of special teams is that mistakes are going to happen and they're going to have a big impact on the game. A missed FG is a turnover. A turnover on the return is a turnover. Holding or blocking in the back are penalties that move you back.

If it were up to me, rather than spending a bunch of time and energy making the special teams better, I'd try to figure out a strategy that minimizes the opportunity for our special teams to cost us the game. It's still going to happen, but not as often.

Don't return punts. There's nothing about the kickoff return that's more important than not fumbling it. Don't give you opponent an opportunity for a long punt return. Don't attempt long FGs unless it's the end of the half.

We didn't need a whole story about this. All it needed was a one word answer to the story headline..."YES"!!!

The title in this article used the wrong name. A coach is only as good as the players he has on his team. This falls at he feet of the General Manager who can't seem to find the players to give a coach something to work with, and takes a pass on the obvious ones, Cooper Dejean being a recent example. Imagine him on special teams.