Can the Packers Emulate the Success of Their Rival?

The Packers need to look no further than Chicago to find out how to turn the franchise around in short time.

As the Packers enter the unknown abyss of two losing seasons in a row for the first time in 27 years, certain retooling of the team and the organization is bound to make this one of the most exciting offseasons the franchise has faced in many years.  With Aaron Rodgers facing the twilight years of his career, the organization needs to absolutely kill this offseason to put this team back in position to win beginning in 2019.

In a copycat league, the Packers don’t need to look any further than 200 miles to the south to find the blueprint for turning a franchise around in a hurry.  Since going 8-8 in 2013, the Bears had suffered four straight losing seasons leading up to this season.  Their 3-13 and 5-11 records the last two seasons gave no indication that the team would be ready to compete for and win the NFC North in 2018, but here we sit with the Bears having just won their first NFC North title since the 2010 season in convincing fashion.

While the Chicago Bears are the most hated rival of the team and watching them win the NFC North, at home, over the Packers was painstaking, their turnaround from the bottom dweller in the division to now contending for a first-round bye in the playoffs was predicated on three key things.  If the Packers hope to cure their ails over the past two seasons, these three things will be imperative this offseason to right the ship for the organization.

Head Coach

After three poor seasons under John Fox and three prior to that from Marc Trestman, the Bears and General Manager Ryan Pace pursued Matt Nagy to become the new head coach of the Bears this past offseason.  While not the sexy name like the interviews they had with Pat Shurmur and Josh McDaniels, the Bears brass went for a creative offensive mind in Nagy and the results have paid dividends from the start of the season. 

While the Bears offense isn’t necessarily lighting the league up in total yards, they are sixth overall in points scored because of Nagy’s creative use of the weapons he has on his team.  Most often a knock on former Packers coach Mike McCarthy, utilizing personnel in the best fashion needs to be a priority for the new Packers head coach.  And while I’m not advocating that the hire must be a young and fresh offensive mind for the Packers, the right fit for the organization is imperative just as Nagy was for the Bears.  As the Packers embark on their search for McCarthy’s successor, the hire will likely have a strong impact on the successes or failures of the near future of the franchise and the Packers must get this hire right.

Free Agency Success

An astronomical part of the Bears this season were the home runs that they hit in free agency this past offseason.  First and foremost, scoring Khalil Mack from the Raiders has produced 12.5 sacks, six forced fumbles, two fumble recoveries and one interception on the season.  And more importantly, he has helped bring the Bears defense back to the forefront of the NFL.  The Packers were in the running for Mack right until the deal was made, but Pace struck the deal that put Mack in blue and orange rather than green and gold.  Outside of Mack, the Bears also struck oil with the offensive signings of wide receiver Taylor Gabriel and Allen Robinson on top of tight end Trey Burton.  The trio has been reliable targets for young quarterback Mitch Trubisky throughout the season.  Even the signing of veteran backup quarterback Chase Daniel proved to be worth the deal as he had to navigate the team for two games in the absence of Trubisky.

With Brian Gutekunst now steering the decisions in free agency, this past offseason proved that the new GM was willing to hit the free agent market.  While the signings of Jimmy Graham, Mo Wilkerson, Tramon Williams and Davon House were solid at the time, the return hasn’t been quite to the level of what the rival Bears have received from there signings.  But the fact that Gutekunst is willing to hit the market should bring hope for the seasons to come, even with in-season signings like Bashaud Breeland.  Now it is time this offseason to hit on a signing or two to help put the franchise over the top.

Draft Success

Over their past three draft classes, the Bears have found playmakers everywhere.  When looking at successes in draft classes, the eyes go to first-round selections first and the last three picks for the Bears are all contributing to the success of the team in linebacker Leonard Floyd, quarterback Mitch Trubisky and linebacker Roquan Smith.  Running backs Jordan Howard and Tarik Cohen were found in the fifth and fourth rounds respectively and are significant factors in the success of the offense.  Fourth round selection Eddie Jackson has found success as a ball-hawking safety and center Cody Whitehair is anchoring the offensive line after being a second-round selection.

With the Packers 2016 draft class now establishing themselves as either perennial starters or busts and the 2017 class overall disappointing outside of running backs Jamaal Williams and Aaron Jones, a lot remains to be seen from the 2018 draft class but things are looking good with Gutekunst in control.  The 2019 draft will be crucial in the success of the team’s future, especially how the two first round picks are handled.  With the Packers pick likely falling anywhere between 8 – 15 and the Saints pick likely falling very late in the round, the team will have a shot at either two first-round selections or some room to maneuver around the draft a bit.  A packaged deal of the two picks could potentially move the Packers up around the fourth or fifth overall selection.  If Gutekunst’s first draft tells us anything, it tells us that he is ready and willing to navigate around the draft board to help find success for this team.

A wise Irish playwright, George Bernard Shaw, was quoted as saying “Imitation is not just the sincerest form of flattery – it’s the sincerest form of learning.”  And while the Packers organization and their fans will be pained to watch the Chicago Bears enter the 2018 playoffs from their couches, valuable lessons for a quick franchise turnaround can be learned from the Bears.  It is now up to Mark Murphy and Brian Gutekunst to make that happen.

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Ryan Brunner is an avid Packers fan hailing from Chippewa Falls, WI.  He is a firm believer that punters are NFL players too!  Follow him on Twitter @brunwardo

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ricky's picture

December 18, 2018 at 06:11 pm

The most important question the Packers face is whether Rodgers just had an off year, or whether this is an indication of a longer term deterioration of skills. Missing open receivers and miscues on passes that he should make routinely this season are a reason for concern. Are we as Packers fans too quick to try to find excuses, rather than face the possiblity of a player who MAY be in decline?

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flackcatcher's picture

December 18, 2018 at 06:21 pm

Those of us at CHTV have long faced that ugly prospect. The rest of Packerworld is only starting to see what we saw going on since 2015. (sigh)

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Bearmeat's picture

December 18, 2018 at 06:20 pm

False equivalency.

The Bears built around defense. They have severely limited their draft capital in acquiring Mack and moving up for Trubisky 2 years ago. They are ok cap-wise, but have no room to acquire more expensive talent via free agency for the next few years. They're going to have to hit it out of the park in the middle rounds - especially via the OL - and hope Trubisky improves vastly in order to compete for a Super Bowl. Let's not forget the Bears played a 4th place schedule and have had only one injury of note all year. (OT)

The Packers are built to outscore teams. That's how their salary structure is set up. The Packers problem this year was injuries first and foremost, ARod's mediocre play second, and a very stale offense third. GB has more draft capital in the upcoming years, as well as far more salary cap room than MIN and CHI.

Unlike the Bears and Vikings, for GB the ammo is there. Gute and Murphy need to hire the right HC. They need to get ARod to buy in and clean up his tendency to try to be a hero every 3rd down. And they need to acquire better talent at OLB, RT, RG, TE, FS and SS, as well as better depth across the team.

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ShanghaiKid's picture

December 18, 2018 at 06:38 pm

I agree with just about everything you said bearmeat. The only part I disagree with is this, “for GB the ammo is there.” Everything else, 100% agree with.

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Bearmeat's picture

December 18, 2018 at 06:44 pm

I meant the "ammo" in that we have the draft capital and cap space to spend. Not "ammo" currently on the team. Of course our team has more holes than both MIN and CHI right now. The only way we would have been a Super Bowl contender this year is if we had stayed healthy, and ARod went God Mode again. Obviously, neither happened.

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ShanghaiKid's picture

December 18, 2018 at 06:49 pm

Gotcha, I misunderstood what you were articulating.

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flackcatcher's picture

December 18, 2018 at 06:39 pm

My only quibble is whether Mark Murphy should have a voice given how much he SNAFU the GM search and was forced to hire IAMGUTE at the last minute. I think Gute is a good talent evaluator if he is left alone with his team to do the job. What direction the Packers takes depends on Gute's eval of the current talent on the roster. My 'gut' tells me Gute favors bringing back the current staff with Philbin as HC, but that means Gute and his team thinks this current roster is much closer than what many of we fans believe. The next two games should sort that out in short order.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

December 18, 2018 at 07:37 pm

Just be glad they drafted Trubisky and not Mahomes, or we'd dealing with the Seahawks 2.0.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 19, 2018 at 05:09 am

Chicago isn't in bad shape. The biggest thing is having only 4 draft picks, with the best one being #91. They will dump Dion Sims to get to $26M in cap space and probably pony up for Callahan ($7M?) FS Amos and maybe RT Massie. They probably can sign one pretty good FA. Pace certainly will have to be shrewd.

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mrtundra's picture

December 19, 2018 at 08:35 am

Who'd da thunk GB would ever try to emulate Da Bears? Da Bears have no offense to speak of. Take away Cohen on returns and they have little in the way of STs, either. Their WRs find holes in zone coverage and are wide open enough that even Trubisquit can connect to move the chains. I'd like to see what the Packers would have looked like if the Mack trade went their way. Mack is a difference maker. Teamed with Hicks and Floyd, Da Bears' D line is really solid. Add Mack to the Packers D line and there would be no where to run for the opposing QB or their RBs.

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4thand10's picture

December 21, 2018 at 10:05 am

The Bears will be a one hit wonder. Aside from this year (they still split games) Chicago hasn’t had a whole lot of success against the Packers... not exactly a team to “emulate” . They sold the farm to be a one hit wonder and even that is not landing them in the promise land this year....

You can only live for so long on gadget plays.

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TarynsEyes's picture

December 18, 2018 at 06:22 pm

" With Aaron Rodgers facing the twilight years of his career,".....

It wasn't that long ago..2 years...that anyone even mentioning that the ' window ' was closing, was run out of here.
Well, the window is closing and if errors in the new HC and staff, a bad draft and if an aging QB doesn't get on the same page....it's likely shut tight.

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Bearmeat's picture

December 18, 2018 at 06:28 pm

A lot of "ifs" there. At least as many as "maybe it works out." My guess is that GB will have 1-2 more deep playoff runs in them before ARod hangs em up.

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TarynsEyes's picture

December 18, 2018 at 06:51 pm

" A lot of "ifs" there."

This is the place to put the ' ifs ' in play...isn't it!?

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Bearmeat's picture

December 18, 2018 at 08:11 pm

Fair. As always, I think you're on the gloomy side. But that's fair.

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Lare's picture

December 18, 2018 at 06:35 pm

Everyone seems really anxious to blame all the Packers troubles on Rodgers and find any fault possible with his performance, regardless the scheme, receivers or OL he was given to work with.

I think I'll wait to see how Rodgers performs in a new up-to-date and effective offensive scheme with quality players around him before I jump on the "Rodgers sucks" bandwagon with the rest of you.

Pointing fingers is for losers, winners find solutions.

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LeotisHarris's picture

December 18, 2018 at 06:44 pm

What if the solution is to wait and see, but it is what it is, not what it was, or what it's going to be?

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The TKstinator's picture

December 18, 2018 at 09:19 pm

Bringing it back again, well done!
This could be the new “pad level”!

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flackcatcher's picture

December 18, 2018 at 06:46 pm

I blame Canada.......

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LeotisHarris's picture

December 18, 2018 at 07:15 pm

Yes! Canada, those finger-pointers. I blame them, too. Good call!

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Packers0808's picture

December 18, 2018 at 07:57 pm

Are you saying we need "Johnny Football"?

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ShanghaiKid's picture

December 18, 2018 at 06:47 pm

There too many places to point fingers. The only people who are going to provide solutions at this point are Gute and Murphy.

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ShanghaiKid's picture

December 18, 2018 at 06:35 pm

I think the comparison is apples to oranges. The building block of the Bears success was defense. The move that put the defense over the top from good to championship caliber, was obviously Mack. They supplied Trubisky with enough weapons to keep defenses second guessing where the attack is coming from. They dressed it up with scheme and are now cooking with gas.

Conversely, I would argue the building blocks for the Packers are scattered about. The OL needs a makeover. Pass rush needs a makeover. The WR group, while promising, is young and undeveloped. TE needs someone for the future. The safety group needs a total makeover. ILB needs speed and playmaking. The strength for the Packers is Rodgers (when he’s right, he’s been pretty awful by his standard this season.) the RB’s, and to a certain extent CB, but even the CB has question marks too.

Unless the Packers hit a grand slam. Im talking every guy they pick in the draft comes in and starts, the new HC fixes Rodgers, and they hit a couple dingers in FA. I don’t see this team competing for another two seasons...At least two.

We need to face reality as fans. The Packers lack top end talent outside of Clark, Adams, and occasionally Rodgers. They need a lot of difference makers. A lot has to fall their way in order for them to be championship caliber. You can only pray at this point.

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Bearmeat's picture

December 18, 2018 at 06:47 pm

Yes, but that is the case for every team. Look at the Vikings last year and Bears this year. Literally every break in the world went their way. Us in 2014. Eagles last year. You have to have breaks and guesses work out - in addition to health - to make deep runs.

The only exception is the Patriots. Because Belichick. And the AFC has a lot of shitty teams.

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ShanghaiKid's picture

December 18, 2018 at 06:51 pm

Fair enough Bear, I just think the climb back to prominence is going to take longer than most expect.

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Packers0808's picture

December 18, 2018 at 07:58 pm

Definitely agree with you-3-7 years!

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Bearmeat's picture

December 18, 2018 at 09:06 pm

I think it very well could happen next year if things drop right. I mean, if ARod plays how he can and/or should play, this team is probably winning the division right now. And imagine if we got just a touch more pass rush and the rookie WRs grow a bit next year? That said, I too think it's more likely in 2020. But you never know. I mean, GBs win baseline with ARod is already higher than almost every team.

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Roadking's picture

December 18, 2018 at 09:43 pm

Bear, it's also how your roster is built. Last year we lost Rodgers, look what happened. The queens lost their starting qb and their starting rod and had numerous injuries on their o line, but still finished 13- 3 . We need better players and more depth .
Imo the bears and queens are built for the long haul because they have drafted good and are young.

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The TKstinator's picture

December 21, 2018 at 05:53 am

Very good point.

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Skip greenBayless's picture

December 18, 2018 at 10:57 pm

"the new HC fixes Rodgers"

What is he a fucking cat?

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Lphill's picture

December 18, 2018 at 06:44 pm

The Bears have had the luxury of drafting high and getting better players in the first round than playoff teams like the Packers picking at the end of the first round, so you can’t compare the two , TJ Watt was available but passed over something that will be regretted for years . Now next year let’s see how we do picking high for a change. Draft defense , pick up some experienced O lineman in free agency and regroup like the Pats do every year .

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Point-Packer's picture

December 18, 2018 at 07:27 pm

Couldn't but think to myself that arguable three of the top four most impact players last Sunday on the Bears squad were players the Packers targeted and whiffed: Burton, Robinson, Mack.

That's on every Packer fan's savior, Gute.

In particular, not giving a little bit more for Mack and Robinson seems like a severe miscalculation.

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canadapacker's picture

December 18, 2018 at 10:52 pm

I believe that the Bears may have mortgaged their future over one player Mack. Two firsts and a whole bunch of money. That the Pack didnt do that might be a saving thing down the road. That money can buy a lot of other things and if we draft correctly those 1st rounders will help ( the fact that the Bears dont have them and right now we will have higher picks this draft year). Byt we need to resign our good guys. I think that letting Micah Hyde go was shortsighted - team discount or not. I dont have a problem with letting guys who dont want to do it the Packer way go - Monty and Ha Ha but sometimes we need to keep guys. Ted let a couple of linemen go that are still playing for other teams. And nobody is saying anything about the inventiveness of Sean Payton with their use of our Taysom Hill . If they could see something in him - why couldnt we?

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canadapacker's picture

December 18, 2018 at 07:43 pm

Every time that I watch the Steelers play I seethe because Stubborn Ted could have had TJ Watt and instead our pick is with the Saints practice squad. Towards the end of his tenure he kept making draft pick mistakes - now is that poor scouting staff - is that because he ignored his scouts or was it because he got too tired to spend all the necessary time watching guys. But It does seem funny that other teams can find later round running backs and we couldnt - it seemed that we tried to pick baseball and basketball ball hawks in the secondary instead of football players. This team can be turned around quickly. AR has to pick up his game ( yes maybe he was preoccupied with the contract and maybe his new girlfriend). But he was constantly missing receivers and not taking the open guys in order to get the big play. The defense seems to be coming along quickly despite a myriad of injuries. Cut a few guys get some new guys in both in the draft and in free agency and things will be good. I also believe we need to shakeup the special teams totally and that may mean giving Crosby the boot ( besides the odd off game his leg cant get the ball into the end zone on kickoffs). We seem to either allow big plays or take penalties on our special teams all too often. And finally please dont hire either Saban or McDaniels -

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The TKstinator's picture

December 18, 2018 at 09:26 pm

PFF had some very interesting analysis of TJ’s performance and success. Not flattering. They also accurately predicted Vic Beasley’s huge dropoff too.

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Skip greenBayless's picture

December 18, 2018 at 11:15 pm

I don't blame Ted for the past couple drafts. He actually was a victim of his own greatness. Because the guy was so good at drafting players early on and also great at picking key guys to work with him, other teams basically came in and took away some of Ted's greatest coworkers including John Dorsey, John Schneider, Elliott Wolf and Reggie McKenzie. Think about that all star lineup that Ted worked with. Naturally when they left Ted was left with inferior shit to try to repeat the same magic he had earlier. Of course it was bound to regress and it did the past couple years. Sorry but I'm giving Ted a free pass on this. He won a super bowl and teams raped him of all the good employees and he was left with some young inexperienced ham and eggers throwing darts at the draft board. Ted retires with dignity and full honors in my book. Possible hall of fame GM every bit as good as Ron Wolf.

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Jonathan Spader's picture

December 19, 2018 at 12:18 am

Dash:

Go and read how Gute got his GM job. He handed Murphy a stack of his draft assessments on players he would have taken in the draft instead of who TT took. I do think TT got caught up in his own greatness. I think he ignored the voices of his scouts and thought he knew better. Both of us are just guessing but I don't give TT a free pass. He was great with great support early on. Later on he still had Wolf, Gute, and co. he wasn't devoid of talent seekers he just didn't listen. Gute times ahead either way.

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Jonathan Spader's picture

December 19, 2018 at 12:14 am

Canada:

"But It does seem funny that other teams can find later round running backs and we couldnt - it seemed that we tried to pick baseball and basketball ball hawks in the secondary instead of football players."

Aaron Jones disagrees strongly as does Williams to a lesser extent.

As for ST Crosby is your only staple. We had a new Punter, Longsnapper, returner... lots of new faces in general. How many big plays on STs did we "allow vs make"? Penalties will always occur on STs thinking otherwise is ignorant watch any team any game. Yes they need to improve and Crosby is overpaid but if a simple "shake up" was all that was required it would have been fixed in 2018.

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canadapacker's picture

December 19, 2018 at 09:11 am

Spader - totally agree - but why did it take so long for the running backs situation to finally be addressed - even tried to convert Montgomery. Our special teams has sucked - we have not only given up long kickoff returns and punt returns but have been getting little of our own and when we do they get called back. And it is the stupid block in the back away from the play - undisciplined penalties. IMO< Crosby is not overpaid - he has earned his salary and if we had a punter/kickoff specialist like some teams do it wouldnt matter because he can still make most of the field goals and extra points. But there just be a time to move on -not sure after viewing the number of teams that are constantly losing games trading in their kickers.

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BoCallahan's picture

December 18, 2018 at 09:59 pm

Did anyone listen to the game on the radio? I was caught off guard by Larivee’s attitude toward Nagy. He referred to Nagy and his play calling as “arrogant” multiple times. Any time the Bears dialed up a trick play Larivee sounded agitated and didn’t hold back on his verbal assault of the Bear’s management.
I didn’t consider the fake punt or the direct snap to the RB arrogant. It was consistent with what Nagy has been doing all season.
As I listened to Larivee, it sounded like a man that was SICK AND TIRED of seeing the Pack play so poorly and he took his frustration out on a rival.

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PAPackerbacker's picture

December 18, 2018 at 10:22 pm

Of course the Packers can get back into contention for a championship. They are already headed in that direction by the firing of MM and Winston Moss. Turning the team around won't take a lot of time if the process is done correctly. That will be the tough part. Choosing the right draft picks, releasing players who are not performing or are injured to often, going after free agents who can make an immediate impact, choosing the right head coach, holding players accountable as well as the coaching staff. It can be done but it won't be an easy task. I'm sure there is a lot more to it than that but of course the Packers can turn it around.

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croatpackfan's picture

December 19, 2018 at 02:13 am

So....

Packers will need to give away 1st round pick for 2020 draft and pick new, young QB, release Aaron Rodgers (like Bears released Cutler), sign 2 or 3 dominant DL/OLB players and change HC...

Interesting proposal...

I don't support that idea!

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Doug_In_Sandpoint's picture

December 19, 2018 at 07:25 am

“Since going 8-8 in 2013, the Bears had suffered four straight losing seasons leading up to this season. Their 3-13 and 5-11 records the last two season” This is the key passage to the whole story. Without the losing seasons, this season doesn’t happen for the Bears. In today’s NFL it is very hard to stay bad forever. It is very hard to stay toward the top forever. Well-run teams hire good people, build/train/improve those people, have success, then weather the inevitable drain when other teams want to emulate that success. Our people are all over the NFL.

The Bears are leeches...searching around to suck off other’s teams’ better drafting (Mack) and other teams’ successful coach-building (Nagy). The McCaskey family has not built a well-run organization that will compete in the long run. Nothing to emulate there...

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LeotisHarris's picture

December 19, 2018 at 01:37 pm

Well said, Doug! I don't think Mitch is the guy, or going to be a great QB, and the Mack trade will end up crippling them very soon. Right now the Bears are releasing their full bladder into their pants, and it feels so warm and nice, but soon they'll be walking around cold, chaffing, and smelling of their own urine.

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The TKstinator's picture

December 21, 2018 at 06:00 am

Wow.
Yowza, even!
Again, sorry I only have one “like” to give!

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Fire_Gute's picture

December 19, 2018 at 09:49 am

So we should try to have one good year out of every 9 seasons, win one super bowl in 33 years, draft a whole bunch of times in the top ten and whiff on most of them. Because that's about all the success our rivals have had.

This bears team is having a good year. They have had a very lucky year when it comes to injuries. They have no 1st or 2nd round pick next year, no 1st in 2020, not a lot of cap space, and will have to gut this team if Trubisky turns into a big time qb. They have missed on a ton of high draft picks and made a hell of a good move on a defensive stud. But there's not a whole lot I want to copy from Da bears.

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calabasa's picture

December 19, 2018 at 10:05 am

Most hated rival? I hate the Vikings. I respect, but don’t like, the Bears. Big difference.

As the oldest NFL rivalry, I view the Bears as more of our companions who have been through it all. But still mortal enemies too.

Otoh, the Vikes? Yuk.

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ILPackerBacker's picture

December 19, 2018 at 10:44 am

In fact most of the NFL uses the poor teams get the good choices as a really tired and inaccurate excuse. It simply is not true. Just as the excuse about free agents is false.

Saying signing Jeff Saturday is the same as Woodson is just stupid. Saying NE is lucky is equally stupid.

Ted passed on 12 of the top 14 MN defenders by snap count last year, some multiple times.

The bear draft choices did not hit because of where they were drafted but because there was either luck or good judgment in selecting them. Green bay did not blow the hawk pick or J Reynolds because of where they were drafted it was bad judgment and NO ACCOUNTABILITY for why choices were made and a constant and arrognant refusal to provide information to hold the front office accountable.

There were NO QUESTIONS about K MACK's impact.
There were LOTS OF QUESTIONS about Graham.

There was always an excuse to find. But getting difference makers is the way to win and wanting a 4th round pick over Moss or Lynch is NOT the way to do it. Signing Saturday is not the way to do it. Those were all choices and no person was ever accountable for them.

NE has not had consecutive winning records. But they do have a person in charge who makes decision instead of whining. In season they went out and got help. It worked. After years of teddie drooling on himself GB finally went out and got some help (breeland in particular).

We don't have to live in years of losing. We need to get accountability and better decision making and all of that can be done in one off season.

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Doug_In_Sandpoint's picture

December 19, 2018 at 02:29 pm

Not sure if this was in response to my post, but when I’m talking about draft position it is not an excuse. What I’m talking about is the relative strength of the organization and the people who run them. Teams win, teams lose. Some years have luck, others none. Some years have injuries, others are healthy. But, in general, luck and injuries regress to the mean. Over time, statistics would say with a large enough sample size, all teams should be .500. League rules surrounding cap space and drafting position force it as well, pushing everyone toward the middle.

This idea that everything evens out is wonderfully proven by the Bears/Packers rivalry. With a large sample size over 100 years and hundreds of games, the records and even points scored are essentially tied.

Yearly records swing wildly while the organizational drift/direction is slow moving. I’m saying the Packers’ recurrent successes vs. the Bears over the past 30 years is superior. It can change, but it will change slowly. And I wouldn’t emulate the Bears in any way.

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ILPackerBacker's picture

December 20, 2018 at 01:19 pm

Interesting post, btw I was not responding to you but the basis of your post is that all teams are run the same way with the same amount of success.

So if you stretch out the years long enough you can regress NE to the mean as well. But then you have moved beyond the current "RULES". Changing the rules in mid exam is not kosher.

Being smarter and more willing to make decisions (accountability in other words because nobody gets blamed for the trade of major FA who is not signed to speak of - and in the case of teddie the press and most fans praised him for not even examining those methods to improve)

NE did the opposite. They studied the rules and players. then made active decision including cutting a pro bowl S going into the season. They withstood losing Gronk and won a SB without him. With out their HOF QB they still got double digit wins.

GB, the packer press in particular sucking up to 1265, and many fans bought the BS about FA and having to draft and develop. I agree if you LIMIT the discussion to draft and develop then moving and staying out side the norm is tough.

But there was no rule forcing people to be stupid and ignore other methods. IN GB in particular no owner made stupid decisions to sell tickets by over paying for big names.

Yet if Moss, then Lynch came to GB; if C Jenkins Hayward and woodson hyde peppers not just dumped as road kill what would have changed in the NFL history books? Those were decision, flawed and called out at the time by many.

Those were not paradym moves they were stupid decisions inside the same paradym as NE. But NE used the tools provided to excel

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Roadrunner23's picture

December 19, 2018 at 02:16 pm

The Pack needs to:

A. Hit a Home Run with the new Head Coach to provide Hope, Excitement & Culture change!

B. Hit a Big Home Run in the Draft!

C. Make the tough decisions on what vet's they intend to let walk, re-structure, re-sign.

D. Target several KEY Free Agents in their prime and pay them, enough with the bargain basement guys and the over the hill, used up guys like Jimmy Graham, Davon House, Mercedes Lewis.

E. Make a KEY trade if available, the Kalil Mack trade worked out well for the Bears, he put that Defense over the top!

GO BIG OR GO HOME GUTE!!!!!!

That is all.....

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