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nygary's picture

December 25, 2021 at 02:28 pm

Kevin King has found every way possible to miss a game.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

December 25, 2021 at 02:38 pm

His greatest and most consistent talent.

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edp1959's picture

December 25, 2021 at 03:37 pm

Wow and defense puts them in a hole.

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BAMABADGER's picture

December 25, 2021 at 03:38 pm

Low block on D.... no.... poor call Savage was going for the tackle.

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dobber's picture

December 25, 2021 at 03:41 pm

It's not a low block if he misses.

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Lphill's picture

December 25, 2021 at 03:38 pm

Defense really sending A message . soft

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crayzpackfan's picture

December 25, 2021 at 03:39 pm

That was way too easy. Hopefully this isn’t a trend going into the post season. It’s vastly different than most of the year.

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dobber's picture

December 25, 2021 at 03:42 pm

Can't sleep on these guys...

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dobber's picture

December 25, 2021 at 03:44 pm

Gutsy call early on that 4th down. Send a message to your team.

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BAMABADGER's picture

December 25, 2021 at 03:45 pm

They made the 4th conversion, but IMO stupid call.

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BAMABADGER's picture

December 25, 2021 at 03:45 pm

Need a lot from Dillion today.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 25, 2021 at 03:51 pm

All day to throw and Mayfield throws that terrible pass which never had a chance.

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dobber's picture

December 25, 2021 at 03:52 pm

Exhibit A for why the Browns will be trading for Wilson or Watson this offseason.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 25, 2021 at 03:54 pm

Well, that didn't age well.

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dobber's picture

December 25, 2021 at 03:53 pm

Hey! A Packer DB held onto the ball!

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 25, 2021 at 03:55 pm

Nobody in the booth has a clue why it was an illegal shift?

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Qoojo's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:13 pm

Adams never came to a full 1 second stop before ball was hiked. I didn't watch a replay, so I don't know if another player moved while Adams was in motion. That's the only thing I thought it could be.

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edp1959's picture

December 25, 2021 at 03:57 pm

#443

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dobber's picture

December 25, 2021 at 03:59 pm

Great effort by Lazard.

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dobber's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:06 pm

This is a Packers team that likes to play off 7+ yards, but doesn't seem to realize it doesn't work on 4th and 1.

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BAMABADGER's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:08 pm

What the heck did MLF see on that 4th down completion???

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:09 pm

Tipa getting snaps again.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:11 pm

Nice rush by Clark to prevent the quick throw and then Gary finished it off.

another GB DB who held onto the ball. How much is the QB on the free agent market?

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dobber's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:16 pm

I wonder if Mayfield gets the Goff treatment.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:28 pm

Browns exercised Mayfield's 5th year option at $18.85M (for 2022), so that is guaranteed. Googling, there is an article suggesting Cleveland offered $30M/year on an extension, but IDK: he isn't a guy that I'd want to put a ton of guaranteed money on the line.

I suppose he might be a guy one can win with, if not because of.

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Wrongbayfeldlman's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:16 pm

Clark was held before the facemask

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:16 pm

Nice one-handed catch by Lazard.
Hard running by Jones with a broken tackle.

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dobber's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:20 pm

Jones had a nice blitz pickup...allowed the dumpoff to Lewis. Otherwise 12 gets lit up.

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KurtMc's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:19 pm

Merry Christmas- Glad to see Lazard came to play.

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Packers1985's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:21 pm

Lazard has to make such catches

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KurtMc's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:23 pm

Adam’s not dropping that! Wow, Adam’s torched that dude. Go Pack

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BAMABADGER's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:26 pm

Tackling break down again.

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crayzpackfan's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:28 pm

Tackle people!!!!

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Qoojo's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:28 pm

Anyone have a packers' D missed tackle count thus far? Seems like it might be pushing 10 already.

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BAMABADGER's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:29 pm

Can a DB cover within 5 yards of the WR?????? WTH????

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Wrongbayfeldlman's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:29 pm

Why so far off the ball?

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edp1959's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:31 pm

This defense can’t keep a lead.

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crayzpackfan's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:33 pm

Will the real DC please stand up?!

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dobber's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:33 pm

I was expecting a low-scoring, grind-it-out kind of game. Guess that's out the window...

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Packers1985's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:41 pm

Defense has to step up now

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Lphill's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:39 pm

Soft coverage the Packers D playing soft

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:41 pm

I thought GB might decline the holding call, preferring 2nd and 12. Now another pitch left it is 2nd and 12.

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dobber's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:41 pm

Packers getting chewed up on the edges in the run game again.

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BAMABADGER's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:41 pm

Clark from the interior has to make that stop on the sweep? Great hustle.

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Packers1985's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:42 pm

Wow this defense is giving up crucial 3rd downs

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edp1959's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:42 pm

You have to be fucking kidding me.

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Wrongbayfeldlman's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:43 pm

Did Petine get his old job back?

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Qoojo's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:44 pm

Did you see Clark out wide on the 3rd and 16? Thought it was interesting. Gary and Smith on the same side. No real rush on the play. Not sure I would go with that alignment again.

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BAMABADGER's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:43 pm

Defense has not stopped the Browns yet.... Mayfield has.... not good this deep into the season.

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dobber's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:45 pm

Yeah, it's ugly at this point without the two picks.

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dobber's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:46 pm

And Mayfield makes another awful throw for a pick...

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Qoojo's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:47 pm

and another gift from Mayfield with horrible under throw to wide open WR, or a mis-read

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Qoojo's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:45 pm

What we have seen from the defense the past two weeks is a 1 or 2 and done defense.

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dobber's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:47 pm

If they aren't scoring like they were a year ago...very likely.

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KurtMc's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:46 pm

Our best Defense player is Baker Mayfield

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edp1959's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:46 pm

Mayfield is the best player on the Packer’s Defense.

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dobber's picture

December 25, 2021 at 04:52 pm

Got the 7, get the ball to start the second half.

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BAMABADGER's picture

December 25, 2021 at 05:05 pm

Need to score early and often in the second half. The D will not win this unless Mayfield plays at his current level : )

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stockholder's picture

December 25, 2021 at 05:07 pm

Why won't the league approve steel toe shoes for broken toes?

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Oppy's picture

December 25, 2021 at 06:53 pm

Because Rodgers' toe isn't "broken".

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croatpackfan's picture

December 25, 2021 at 05:07 pm

"I would like to see Mayfield under the center, so Rasoul, Darnell, Adrian and/or Eric (finally) get their INT and/or pick six."

That what I wrote 2 days ago...

Maybe to become fortune teller?

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 25, 2021 at 05:08 pm

Mayfield hasn't been an interception machine in 2020 or 2021, somewhere in the 1.7% area (2.0% this year coming into the game). Relying on errant throws/INTs by Mayfield would not have been a good strategy, IMO, but that's what is happening.

So, I am thinking that the Browns can put up points in the second half. Time to get points on the first possession in the 2nd half to make them more one-dimensional. Still waiting for GB to shut down the pitches wide, particularly to the Brown's right side.

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BAMABADGER's picture

December 25, 2021 at 05:09 pm

ST are so Special.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 25, 2021 at 05:10 pm

Nice run. Made Greedy Williams (a guy I wanted in the draft) miss and it was off to the races. STs puts GB in the hole once again.

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BAMABADGER's picture

December 25, 2021 at 05:15 pm

Take communications away from the Packer play challenge guy upstairs. That was an obvious incomplete pass from the git go. Another waste of a time out.

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dobber's picture

December 25, 2021 at 05:19 pm

Visions of RichRod on that flat pass to Deguara

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dobber's picture

December 25, 2021 at 05:20 pm

Crosby right down main street.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 25, 2021 at 05:22 pm

The field goal unit has looked smooth or at least smoother these last couple of games. Crosby is splitting the uprights more often than not lately.

I was going to write something snarky but Deguara really didn't get a chance to turn upfields with any authority before getting hit. That said, I don't think running people over is his forte.

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edp1959's picture

December 25, 2021 at 05:24 pm

Come on D

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 25, 2021 at 05:26 pm

Pitch wide left good for 5. Sigh that this was a better result than many previous ones.

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dobber's picture

December 25, 2021 at 05:27 pm

Browns now seeing that the Packers can't defend the edges. Run it til the Packers stop it.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 25, 2021 at 05:28 pm

A sighting of Burks in coverage.

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Packers1985's picture

December 25, 2021 at 05:30 pm

This defense is easily getting runned over

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edp1959's picture

December 25, 2021 at 05:31 pm

Who actually believes this is a top 10 defense?

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Packers1985's picture

December 25, 2021 at 05:33 pm

This defense worries me abit. They are trending downwards esply in the second half of the season

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dobber's picture

December 25, 2021 at 05:37 pm

They're playing more like they did the first 4 weeks and not like they did the middle 6 weeks of the season.

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dobber's picture

December 25, 2021 at 05:33 pm

That Cleveland FG is a real win for the Packers...keeps it a two-score game.

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edp1959's picture

December 25, 2021 at 05:42 pm

Can this defense get a 3 and out?

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 25, 2021 at 05:42 pm

That was kind of an interesting decision to have Adams run a little route over the middle just 5 yards downfield on 3rd and 19. That looked like a field position decision.

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N4sir's picture

December 25, 2021 at 06:05 pm

If it would have been 3rd and 2 then they would have aired it out.

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dobber's picture

December 25, 2021 at 05:44 pm

Big punt...but no coverage unit guys on screen at all when it was caught.

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BAMABADGER's picture

December 25, 2021 at 05:47 pm

This D is swiss cheese.

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Packers1985's picture

December 25, 2021 at 05:50 pm

From today's game it is evident that our defense is not top 10 worthy

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Oppy's picture

December 25, 2021 at 07:06 pm

I agree.

Also, neither is the offense. Which, I guess, it isn't rated top ten anyways. But it certainly doesn't look play off ready, regardless.

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dobber's picture

December 25, 2021 at 05:52 pm

Was that the million-dollar sack for Smith?

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 25, 2021 at 05:56 pm

8th sack so it is worth $1.25M so far. 10 is worth another $750K or $2M in incentives earned.

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edp1959's picture

December 25, 2021 at 05:55 pm

Need a long drive ending with 7.

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lpirlot's picture

December 25, 2021 at 05:57 pm

Their center bobbed his head.

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edp1959's picture

December 25, 2021 at 06:01 pm

Last two series took the ball out of #12 hands results in 3 and out.

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egbertsouse's picture

December 25, 2021 at 06:03 pm

Hey, LaFlower is a genius .

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dobber's picture

December 25, 2021 at 06:03 pm

12 yards
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Cleveland doesn't need to throw.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 25, 2021 at 06:06 pm

So they pass twice.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 25, 2021 at 06:07 pm

Not that it matters.

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Packers1985's picture

December 25, 2021 at 06:08 pm

Ugly Td give away...

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egbertsouse's picture

December 25, 2021 at 06:08 pm

How do you spell soft? B-a-r-r-y.

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BAMABADGER's picture

December 25, 2021 at 06:10 pm

Does anyone feel comfortable with this D this far into the season?

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dobber's picture

December 25, 2021 at 06:10 pm

Packers need to score a TD or run out the clock...just stating the obvious

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crayzpackfan's picture

December 25, 2021 at 06:10 pm

Jesus Christ!! Do we have a 4th quarter, clock killing offense? Do we have a 4th quarter defense that doesn’t come with padded knees and a zipper on the rear?!

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 25, 2021 at 06:12 pm

Cleveland is averaging 10.75 yards per rush. 215 yards on the ground.

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crayzpackfan's picture

December 25, 2021 at 06:16 pm

Not what a playoff team can sustain

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BAMABADGER's picture

December 25, 2021 at 06:13 pm

Adams blows one. Ugh.................................

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dobber's picture

December 25, 2021 at 06:14 pm

That might have been the game right there on that Adams drop.

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BAMABADGER's picture

December 25, 2021 at 06:15 pm

I don't believe the D has not sopped the Brown one time on downs.

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dobber's picture

December 25, 2021 at 06:17 pm

Cleveland punted once.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 25, 2021 at 06:15 pm

Really crappy effort by winfree on the punt coverage. But he adjusted his gloves after missing the tackle and not limiting the gain in the first case.

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Packers1985's picture

December 25, 2021 at 06:16 pm

Oh Adam's . What have you done?

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BAMABADGER's picture

December 25, 2021 at 06:17 pm

It is up the Mayfield to make our best defensive play.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 25, 2021 at 06:18 pm

throw it some more.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 25, 2021 at 06:21 pm

Henry Black in coverage. interesting.

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dobber's picture

December 25, 2021 at 06:22 pm

Gee whiz...what a craptastic second half

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BAMABADGER's picture

December 25, 2021 at 06:24 pm

Other than two or three players.... this D is yuk.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 25, 2021 at 06:24 pm

How do you grade Douglas' interception when it looks like pass interference? I'd be livid were I a Browns fan.

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edp1959's picture

December 25, 2021 at 06:24 pm

Thank goodness we had Mayfield on defense.

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crayzpackfan's picture

December 25, 2021 at 06:25 pm

I’ll take it. But that was a hold. I’m gonna call it a Christmas gift and move along. Cheers everyone. GPG

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BAMABADGER's picture

December 25, 2021 at 06:26 pm

Refs help Pack again...

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Packers1985's picture

December 25, 2021 at 06:26 pm

Packer's got lucky to be coming up with a win. Defense played pretty poorly through out the game and the offense completely stalled in the second half

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 25, 2021 at 06:26 pm

Never apologize for a win in the NFL. This one is not one to brag about, though.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 25, 2021 at 06:27 pm

Probably didn't win the MVP here for AR. Had an opportunity to win it today. But the team won.

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BAMABADGER's picture

December 25, 2021 at 06:27 pm

Pitiful when the only stops the defense made was thanks to Baker Mayfield and the refs. Merry Christmas.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 25, 2021 at 06:28 pm

Merry Christmas, everyone!

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egbertsouse's picture

December 25, 2021 at 06:29 pm

Give the zebra a game ball!! And a new pair of glasses.

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stockholder's picture

December 25, 2021 at 06:31 pm

What a Christmas Gift.

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Oppy's picture

December 25, 2021 at 07:02 pm

This team is not looking right at the moment. The defense was undeniably soft, but they managed to take 4 INTs on the day and held the Browns to 22 points. (Browns average PPG coming into today's game was 21.9, and the league median PPG in 2021 is 23.85, so, ultimately, the Packers D surrendered roughly league average points today.) It certainly could have been worse without the picks, but then, that is part of playing defense.

Offense scored 25, obviously over the 23.85 median PPGs across the league, so a bit better than average.. HOWEVER, this is an offense led by Rodgers and an offense that had the benefit of 4 extra possessions provided by the defense. Three back-to-back 3 and outs is not what you're looking for to close out a game in the second half.

Ultimately, I'm happy with the win, none of them are easy, and the W is all that really counts.. but this team is currently trending the wrong way heading into the playoff run.

Oddly.. Special Teams showed substantial improvement, though.

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