McCarthy can’t get this team ready to play or make the right adjustments during the game , the writing is on the wall for him to end his career in Green Bay it almost seems like he knows it as well . Long overdue for some fresh thinking in Green Bay.

Some pretty damning comments and evidence. Cannot remember this much disarray since the Ray Rhodes era, and we know what happened to him.

Such bad coaching.

Cobb is the slowest slot guy in the league.
Give me Wes Welker.

I wrote Teddy 3 years ago to tell him to draft Jakeem Grant. He wrote me back actually.

Jakeem has a LOT of Tyreek Hill in him.

Eight games left and McCarthy will be coaching to salvage his job.
It will be interesting to see how Rodgers and the other veteran players respond.
If the players rally around their beleaguered coach and finish with 9 wins and victories
over the Bears, Lions and Vikings then Gute will probably keep McCarthy on as coach for another year.
If this team implodes like a house of cards in the second half of the season, he's gone.
Let's see if McCarthy can get another late season run going.
It should be interesting.

Kliff Kingsbury from Texas Tech might spark our offense up a bit.

What a change. One CB from last year. Perry just being Ha HA. Ryan out for the season. Nelson gone. I just see the wrong type of Force to remove MM. Character assassination by displeasure. The offense puts points on the board in pre-season. But yet when A-Rod plays we question MMs play calling. The more the packers shoot them selves in the foot. We blame his discipline. Have mercy on MM. He'll restore the packers to greatness. Standing against MM is wrecking this team. The fight is obvious yet. The coaches have experience. The right way is backing the team and trust in MM and his staff. This team will discover how to win again. Look at the players being dumped. The rift is because players are not doing their job. So instead of looking at MM and his staff. Look at the changes the packers must make to this team first.

"State of the Packers: The defense and offense are headed in different directions on this team. I feel good about the improvement the defense is making under the direction of Mike Pettine. I'm supremely pissed that an offense with Aaron Rodgers looks so rudderless. While Rodgers has not been his usual excellent self, nothing is being done to make things a little easier. That falls directly on the offensive coordinator, play-caller and head coach."

I do think the defense is trending in the right direction. The defense actually was playing really well until the Jones fumble and New England capitalized on momentum swing. What hurt the defense also was losing King, Whitehead getting ejected and then Brice getting hurt. The DB's got thin by the end of the game.

The offense I think is capable of doing great things, they just shoot themselves in the foot.

Rodgers has not been great. There are stretches in games that you can say "thats Aaron freaking Rodgers" and then there are points in the game you can say "what the hell is wrong with Rodgers".

For the offense to get going fully, Rodgers HAS to be better. Plain and Simple. He needs to make the right decisions on when to hand the ball off and when to throw it. He has to start taking what defenses are giving him. Two 5 yards plays equals a first down! Also when the running game is having success, don't be afraid to keep running it.

Can the coaches help him. Absolutely. But the truth is Rodgers has to help himself first. There was the 3rd down play, I believe it was 3rd and 2. Instead of handing it off to Williams he keeps it, doesn't get the first down, fumbles the ball and luckily it goes out of bounds. If I remember right that was right before half time?

There was another set of plays which started at the 1 yard line. They hand off to Jones and he gets 3 yards. 2nd and 7 he throws it to Cobb for no gain. 3rd down he throws it deep to Cobb and over throws him by 10 yards. The problem on that play is underneath of Cobb he has MVS running right at the first down line and if he hits him probably has the first down. Even if it doesn't, they give the punter more yards to work with.
That has been a problem with Rodgers a lot this year. He is not hitting the underneath stuff which would result in first downs.

On the opening drive that resulted in a FG, they had chances for getting a TD. They got to the 9 yard line. First down they have an incomplete pass.
Second down they have a delay of game which should not happen.
Second down Rodgers threw incomplete again.
Third down and goal from the 14, we thought was a give up play call when it happened. But looking back at it, Rodgers made another bad throw. If he hits Cobb where he is supposed to, Cobb may actually infact score.

https://twitter.com/zachkruse2/status/1059483668849266688

Play calling can help. Coaches can help.
But until Rodgers plays better, (not perfect just better), our offense will still struggle.

This all being said, I truly believe this will be the week it comes together. Lets not lose sight that they were leading against the only unbeaten team left in the league, and in a game in which they were 9 point underdogs. Who knows what happens if Montgomery doesn't pull his crap. And going into the 4th Quarter this week, Packers were driving until Jones fumbles at the 26. If Jones doesn't fumble who knows what happens. Essentially they are 2 fumbles away from possibly winning both games.

The night is darkest just before dawn...

"Sheriff Gutekunst: Let it never be said that Sherrif Gutey is hesitant to run a varmint out of town at the drop of a dime: Not much job security working in the Packers' secondary."

Gutekunst is changing the culture in GB.

It started when he went out and signed Free Agents in the offseason. He made the bold draft day trades that ended up netting them Jaire and a 1st round pick next year. He traded away 1 outspoken player, who really had his mind on playing elsewhere next year. He traded a player that cost us a chance at winning a game, and he now cut a player who had a dumb penalty in a game. (I haven't heard if that is why he cut them, but it seems like its why.)

I'm not saying McCarthy is going to be fired at the end of the year, but he has to be feeling the pressure.

If you're McCarthy, what do you do right now to turn it around?

Here’s my take on what is happening: I will put responsibility for the dysfunction of the offense on Murphy. MM pointed fingers at TT for not getting him players and Murphy granted him one “prove it” Year. AR could have more forcefully thrown MM under the bus but didn’t. Now he regrets his timidity and has to put up with MM’s nonsense till the end of the year. His feelings are being worn on his jersey sleeve. This is a case of half-measures resulting in failure.

"Trick Plays: When asked about some of the creative things the Patriots did, the trick plays, fast temp stuff, Rodgers' shrugs and says, "Yeah it seemed to for pretty good for THEM," followed by a wry smile. You have to hear the tone of his voice and facial expression to get the underlying message of, "not that we would try anything like that."

Trick plays????

Not even in McCarthy's vocabulary. Mike continues to trot out 11 personnel about 85 to 90% of the time. I'm GRATEFUL of the job McCarthy did in GB. BUT his time is DONE here.

IF the Packers were to turn it around this year it would be because of Rodgers and NOT Mike McCarthy.

My God how much more of Aaron Rodgers saving the likes of McCarthy and Thompson do people need to see. Just look at what happened to this team last season without Rodgers. Just look what happen in 2013. Hell had Thompson not finally brought back Flynn the Packers wouldn't have even needed Rodgers heroics in week 17 in Chicago that season because they'd have been cooked.

The same people who defended Thompson the last several years of his career are the SAME people defending McCarthy now....Question..Are the Packers a better team NOW after keeping Thompson a few years to long? Ummm, NO!

Kings of the North? it can still happen; however, now injuries (and cuts?) are beginning to eat at the depth of this team. how is this team going to gel?

i am surprised at how little play-making has happened from the OLB position in first 8 games.. injury, inexperience and cuts not to blame. Reggie Gilbert and Nick Perry have been invisible in Pettine's D so far.. Fackrell not much either.. Matthews first neutralized by officiating, then by ?? all i can think about is a lot of guys getting overpaid.

Frankly, I think a lot of people are clutching at straws in order to find a way to fix a team that is unfixable this season. Especially with an injured QB.

This team never had the talent this year to be truly competitive, they need upgrades at several starting positions right now. They're also getting used to new coaches & schemes. They're doing the best they can with what they have but they didn't have the means available to fill all the holes TT left on this team.

As I've said before, this is a rebuild year for this team. Other than some stopgap measures Gutekunst is making decisions for the future, not for the present. Next year he'll have decent draft position and a lot of salary cap money to work with, similar to what the Bears and the Saints had in previous years.

I think the best thing fans can do is have realistic hopes for this season and realize that the future is going to be a lot better than the present.

Packer fans need to toughen up for the next couple of years. As much as people are slapping Gutekunst on the back for his decisive action, we need to accept that this team has some significant holes. On defense alone we need pass rush (cause we don't have any), safeties (cause we don't have any), Dline depth (cause we don't have any) and CB's (cause King is made of glass and the rest are rookies). Bottomline its rebuild time.

On defense we are two years until enough talent is accumulated. Thankfully, we changed the scheme and some of the coaching this year.

On offense we need to change the schemes and coaching to come into this decade. This will take at least a year if our old dog will learn new tricks. Sprinkle in a couple of Olinemen and voila it is 2020.

Buckle up and keep your heads up.

I don't have any issues with using the same formation repeatedly. News flash, you can run multiple plays from the same formation. And doing so makes it harder for defenses to know what you're doing. The problem is, you actually need to do things differently out of that formation.

Al the 2 examples that you posted here are excellent samples of what has been wrong with the Packers offense so far this season. Whatever happened to running to the sticks and turning in. Why are our WRS 15+ yards down the field.

Also, the Packers had obviously decided to go on 4th down why not run the draw play that worked against the Rams for a TD. Even if Jones only picks up a yard or two you now have a 4th and 2 or 3 which means the Pats need to respect the possibility of another run play on 4th down.

Why are we not using Graham in these situations? Go down the middle 5 or 6 yards and throw it high and let him use his height to make the play or throw a quick slant to Adams or MVS. We should be able to execute those types of plays if we actually call them.

MM allegedly likes TEs but he rarely uses them. This offense is too dependent on Rodgers making plays and he is just not healthy enough to carry this team by himself.

Many here remember the 1967 season for the famous Ice Bowl and the Packers 3rd straight NFL championship. But how many remember that Bart Starr threw 9 TDs and 17 interceptions during the regular season? Imagine if that was the case with Aaron Rodgers.

In the previous 3 seasons Starr threw 16 interceptions combined. What happened in 1967? Starr played hurt for most of the season, even missed the last game of the season which was a Packers loss. Yet the team won their division and the NFL championship and the second SB. How? Starr was still playing with 8 other future HOFers, 6 of them on the defense.

Bottom line, football is still a team game and even in this era when the QB is king one player cannot do it all. We need better players at many positions and we just don't have them yet. It's going to take patience and perspective for the rest of this season at least. Thanks, Since '61

Reading the comments, it's hard not to laugh at the crying over what is now is what 's been seen for a few seasons and all the ' blind optimist ' denied all.

I think all winning teams that don't go to the SB have fans that lament and play Monday morning QB's.

I think all winning teams that don't go to the SB have fans that lament and play Monday morning QB's.

The Pack was very close to beating two of the best teams in football on their own turf. Two players made crucial mistakes that have nothing to do with coaching. When you have a great QB he is part of the game plan and adjustments made during and prior to game time ,so they're all to blame . In my view the offense is hampered this season by the following circumstances : new receivers and injuries on the line especially Bulaga . When we have to keep a TE in to help the right tackle, it hampers diversity in play calling, especially when Graham is a mediocre blocker. We run a very complicated offense that new receivers need time to adjust to which might explain why it's taking so long to snap the ball and the simplified play calling when compared to last year. We still have a solid chance for ten wins and the playoffs, it will start with a pesky Miami team.

Everyone here agrees that having Rodgers makes the Packers an automatic SB contender and the odds from Vegas each year condone such belief.
Every season most here begin their endless over rating process of every player drafted, retained and Fa signing. The weekly excuses to stand by ___(fill in name) begin and are repeated weekly,bi-weekly.
If the other players are what many believed they are,regardless of rookie/veteran, this team shouldn't be so dysfunctional simply because of the assumed talent and the QB named Rodgers.
Yes, coaching has a hand in it but players that are truly good are rarely made to look this bad so often as in GB.
This team should not be back door entrants into the playoffs as has been mostly, if they are what so many here believe them to be.

The offense specifically looks like its just going through motions out there a lot of the time. In the press conferences the responses illicit a team that has almost checked out on the coaches messages. Will be interesting to see the team plays here as we move along. Speaking of Nick Perry, you would never even know hes on the field!

But, but but ...Aaron doesn’t throw interceptions!
Of course, he doesn’t throw the ball on time to open receivers either.

Well, Al, my opinion is that - you have players you have and you are making your playbook adjusted to the players you have plus some more plays for possible improvement of young player during the season. So when you main player are not in his best, you can throw away your playbook and all those work you had in OTAs and TC in installing the playbook. Your main player are doing so many mistakes that when you call play which should work main player do not execute it.
Is that guilt of execution or it is guilt of playcall?
I would like to know that answer!
You can not copy Patriots, Rams, Saints or whatever team you may pick, playbook, because you do not have players they have. You are making your playbook according your players.
I believe Packers would adjust to some decline of the main player, but he, still, from time to time make that plays Packers installed. Other time he just do not make that plays. What to do?

And Josh Jones is now on the chop block.
Will he survive or be cut like the rest? Stay tuned ...

some difficult issue

is there a lack of talent at WR?
why did it take TWO not one but TWO injuries to get MVS on the field? that is not a lack of talent

Why has Jones STILL not gotten ball enough or in the correct situation? There is no rule requiring a 3/4 down call to be everyone run deep and look. Just Jones on the field changes the defense....that is not a lack of talent

why is cobb still being forced the ball? that is lack of talent

why is Tramon returning punts? lack of talent

why is the center unable to assist either guard? over rated talent