Confessions of a Polluted Mindset - Bye Week Musings

The Weekly Packers Brain Drain from Jersey Al.

Not-so-polluted this week - I've sort of taken my own bye from the Packers this week, focusing on some personal and work stuff, so this is going to be kind of a  "Polluted Light" this week.

Dillon's head - It was good to hear AJ Dillon admit he was "thinking too much" this year and that multiple people, including his wife, were telling him that. He doesn't know it, but I've been telling him that all season here in these spaces. It was painfully obvious he was being indecisive on which hole to run to. With that hesitation, he lost momentum, which, if you remember from physics, is the product of mass times velocity. Add the fact that force is the product of mass and acceleration (more physics), and you should be getting the point by now. It's a lot easier to tackle a hesitant Dillon than a plowing full-force Dillon. It's science.

Trash Can Removal - Well, fan-favorite Jack Heflin, who so many worried about getting claimed at roster cutdowns the last two years, has been released from the practice squad. It's understandable when the Packers have three guys on the active roster who can't get meaningful snaps on the DL (Slaton, Wyatt, and Ford). Reports out of Green Bay say a large forklift was seen taking a "trash can full of dirt" off the premises. No disrespect to Jack, just going for the easy joke there.

Run the table - Odds the Packers run the table? I'll put them at 500-1. Odds that it would even get them into the playoffs, 200-1. I know, never tell me the odds.

Watson Comparison - I've seen a lot of Christian Watson comparisons lately (James Lofton, Randy Moss, etc). One I haven't seen that occurred to me a few weeks ago is Calvin Johnson. Their physical and athletic measurables are almost the same. Give Watson a year or two in the Packers' weight room, and you may just have a Megatron on your hands.

Playing it Safe with Rasul - Make some room for me on the "Move Rasul to Safety"  train. Douglas is more of an instinctual football player. He's best at anticipating plays and jumping routes, something much harder to do when you're an outside corner tasked with keeping up with speedy wide receivers. Add in that he's a better tackler than Savage and Amos (who has really regressed this year) and I think it makes sense.

See the Love - I would NEVER root for the Packers to lose, but if they were to lose Monday Night and finally accept their 2022 fate and let Jordan Love start a few games, I would consider that a silver lining. I saw a different guy when he got some playing time in the Eagles game. I liked what I saw and want to see more.

 

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barutanseijin's picture

December 14, 2022 at 06:14 am

You’re on to something with the idea of the Packers accepting their fate. One of their major problems the past few years has been their inability to accept reality (e.g., Amari Rodgers’ lack of ability, self-evaluation of units/players/coaches, Aaron Rodgers’ age & current health & skill set…)

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Untylu1968's picture

December 14, 2022 at 07:33 am

Amari 4/57/1 TD last week. I wasn't a fan, but he must have some form of abilities. Obviously, returning punts, wasn't one of them. I think we may have a major coaching staff issue?

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croatpackfan's picture

December 14, 2022 at 07:57 am

As Amari was drafted to play offense, I would like to know which HC you are talking about, MLF or ACR?

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PackyCheese500's picture

December 14, 2022 at 10:18 am

I don't know why Amari didn't get more opportunities on offense and less on STs. he never played Returner in college, you know.

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dobber's picture

December 14, 2022 at 11:35 am

"he never played Returner in college, you know."

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/amari-rodgers-1.html

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LeotisHarris's picture

December 14, 2022 at 01:42 pm

Pfft, details. It was only all four years, dobber. GAWD!

The prolific posting with monkey-in-a-grocery-store-like distraction by shiny objects makes me suspect Packycheese500 is a bot.

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PackyCheese500's picture

December 14, 2022 at 02:54 pm

Beep-Boop-Beep-Beep!

Just what Monkeys are you talking about, LH?

Also, my bad on Rodgers. I've heard others on this site say he didn't play returner, and I guess I didn't fact-check those claims. Shame on me!

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Leatherhead's picture

December 14, 2022 at 03:09 pm

Which LH are you referring too?

Amari Rodgers was a good player in college who failed in Green Bay. I don't think the story is over yet. Of course, I don't think we should return punts, period. Just fair catching them can be hard enough.

I thought he should be given more opportunity as a receiver. He wasn't. I have a theory about that but I'm not willing to share it at this time.

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PackyCheese500's picture

December 14, 2022 at 03:47 pm

I am referring to Leotis, sorry.

He should have been given an oppportunity as a reciever. He did excellent in Houston on Sunday and caught his first TD. It was a pretty impressive grab, too. He wears #19

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T7Steve's picture

December 14, 2022 at 06:31 am

I thought there would be no math.

They didn't let Dillon be Dillon. Now we find out he wasn't letting him be him? When he was running out of the shotgun, it was designed to make him hesitate.

Too early for any Watson comparisons to anyone except his self and his own development.

The Love Shack is a little old place that we can get together. (Must be bad or someone would have used it before.)

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BradHTX's picture

December 14, 2022 at 07:33 am

Bang bang!

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Since'61's picture

December 14, 2022 at 08:42 am

T7 Physics is not math! Thanks, Since '61

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T7Steve's picture

December 14, 2022 at 08:51 am

LOL.

Out of my league either way.

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dobber's picture

December 14, 2022 at 12:30 pm

And neither is chemistry...which is awesome!

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Leatherhead's picture

December 14, 2022 at 03:11 pm

Not true.

Biology is Chemistry, Chemistry is Physics, and Physics is Math. My wife is a chemist and my oldest son has a degree in Applied Math, so I've heard this hashed out many times.

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dobber's picture

December 14, 2022 at 06:37 pm

Throw the word "applied" in there and I'm right there with ya.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 15, 2022 at 01:35 am

Math is almost everywhere, and it is beautiful.

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Houndog's picture

December 14, 2022 at 06:50 am

Another good article Al,
The trash can thing I could have lived without, why kick a guy when he's down?
As for Watson, not sure I like the weight room/Megatron idea, the extra weight and muscle can sometimes slow even the best athletes down. This kid is a great athlete and a true burner, gotta' keep that speed. If he stays healthy the sky's the limit.
I too have been on the Douglas to safety bandwagon this year, but it will take coaching to make that switch successful, and Barry and his staff might not be capable of doing that. It sure as hell doesn't look like they are.
After seeing Love against Philly I too would like to see more. I've never had any faith in this kid, but that game turned my thinking. There's not much 'IF' left for this season, so give him a full game and let's see what we've got.
Edit*
I'd like nothing better than to see Dillon being Dillon and bulldozing people, but I still cringe at the thought of losing Jones. Seeing Jones and that sombrero in any other color(s) would be heartbreaking.

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NickPerry's picture

December 14, 2022 at 07:29 am

Hopefully with AJ Dillon thinking less it will result in more games like his last two outings. I'd also like to see him get more carries with Rodgers or Love under center opposed to shotgun. Maybe I'm imagining it but doesn't Dillon seem much, much slower hitting the hole when Rodgers is in shotgun? Yes, I know Rodgers prefers being shotgun...Hmmm, I'll bet Love doesn't care.

Comparisons are all fun and good and if Watson was turn out like ANY of these comparisons the Packers probably got the best WR in the 2022 draft with the 34th pick. I'm curious to see if the Rams shadow Watson with Ramsey on Monday. If so, this would be EXACTLY where I'd like to see Rodgers run the MLF offense opposed to the Rodgers/McCarthy/ MLF offense. Give the kid some help and SCHEME him open.

I think Douglas would make an excellent Safety. He's more than big enough and has enough speed to play but as Al alluded to he has excellent anticipation. Put him back there with Rudy Ford and maybe try and find a decent safety in the draft. OR, you could trade your 3rd round pick since the Packers can't pick a winner in the 3rd if they're life depended on it.

As exciting as Watson has been. As excited as I am to see Doubs and Watson on the field together, healthy AND more experienced in the offense, this team in the playoffs WITH Joe Barry as DC feels like nothing but a big tease. If they managed to "Run the Table' and the Giants, Seahawks, Redskins, and Lions all lost enough to move the Packers up to the final wildcard spot, Joe Barry leading this defense against say that 49ers running game just seems like a cruel thing to put the fans through. We already know Barry doesn't have a fucking clue. I just don't think I can stomach another Packers playoff beatdown while Rodgers blames EVERYBODY else around him.

Jordan Love...I've been ready for Jordan Love since the end of last season. Ever since that HORRIBLE throw into triple coverage to Adams as Allen Lazard was streaking wide open right in FRONT of Rodgers I became more than ready.

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Johnblood27's picture

December 14, 2022 at 07:38 am

well Nick, you have done it again.

I post much less since you just say what i have been and still are thinking.

i will miss having the "Trash Can Full of Dirt" on the Packers. with the run defense having such difficulties I wish we could have seen at least one Heflin appearance to see what he could do vs NFL starting OL.

I guess he didn't do enough on the practice field to earn those type of snaps. he did look pretty good in exhibition games, maybe he was just a "gamer" and needs the surge of adrenaline to play to his fullest. I hope he gets a chance elsewhere.

...and oh yeah... rasul should be a safety already what with the shitty play of savage and the regression of amos. poor awareness by the coaching staff - yet again...

...and kenny clark should be out at DE in a 3 man line. Slaton can slog up the middle, he is 330 lbs! Wyatt should be getting all the snaps at the other DE with Clark. anyone else on the roster is rotational depth and should have playing time commensurate with that role. ...another coaching awareness issue...

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PackyCheese500's picture

December 14, 2022 at 10:20 am

You are spot on about Clark. 313 lbs is small for a nose tackle, and playing as a DE would allow him to maximize his pass rushing traits. Slaton, Ford, and a 2023 NT should rotate at that position going forward

Let's try Douglas at Safety over the next few weeks and see how he does...

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dobber's picture

December 14, 2022 at 01:06 pm

A quick look around the league, depth charts for teams listed as having 3-4 base defenses, and listed starters at NT shows Kenny Clark to be at the median for weight for NFL NTs. It's one thing to argue he's not as effective as he's been in the past, but size is not likely the issue unless he suddenly got smaller last offseason.

Miami: Raekwon Davis, 6'7" 330
Patriots: Davon Godchaux, 6'3", 311
Ravens: Travis Jones, 6'4", 320
Steelers: Montravious Adams, 6'4", 304
Jaguars: Davon Hamilton, 6'4", 320
Titans: Teiar Tart, 6'2", 305
Broncos: Mike Purcell, 6'2", 320
Chargers: Breiden Fehoko, 6'2", 300
Giants: Dexter Lawrence, 6'4", 340
Packers: Kenny Clark, 6'3", 314
Vikings: Harrison Phillips, 6'3", 307
Falcons: Abdullah Anderson, 6'2", 295
Bucs: Vita Vea, 6'4", 347
Cards: Leki Fotu, 6'5", 330
Rams: Greg GAines, 6'1", 310
Seahawks: Al Woods, 6'4", 330

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PackyCheese500's picture

December 14, 2022 at 03:50 pm

My point is that Clark would be more effective at DE in pass rushing and we can draft a larger guy to rotate with Slaton to help defend the run.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 15, 2022 at 01:42 am

There is plenty of evidence that Clark is an elite nose tackle - that is, playing 0 and 1 technique.

Since he moved to more 3, 4, and 5 technique, he has been less effective. Indeed, he has been far less effective.

I think one can make a good argument that a team should play their best defensive player at the position at which he is elite. The scrubs just have to move, not the elite guy the team is paying a bundle to.

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Starrbrite's picture

December 14, 2022 at 02:36 pm

Agree Johnnyblood.

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Johnblood27's picture

December 16, 2022 at 12:15 pm

hahahahahaha

you got downvoted for agreeing with me!

hahahahahaha

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egbertsouse's picture

December 14, 2022 at 07:35 am

Can’t put Watson in the same sentence as Moss, Rice, and Megatron. The comparisons at this point are Jeff Janis, Bill Schroeder, and MVS.

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Johnblood27's picture

December 14, 2022 at 07:44 am

hmmm... Watson has put some impressive numbers up in a spectacular way thus far.

nobody has said that Watson IS Moss, just that his rookie season has some parallels that are quite interesting.
Rice could never run like Watson, bad comparison.
Megatron was far more physical that Watson has shown thus far, bad comparison.

Best comparison is James Lofton, and we can just hope that Watson lives up to THAT comparison!

Janis is a never-was, no comparison.
Schroeder had some productive seasons with Brett "the theif" Favre, but he was never as dynamic as Watson has already shown.
MVS was simply a tease. speed, but not equivalent athleticism or hands to actually BE somebody.

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Untylu1968's picture

December 14, 2022 at 07:46 am

Sorry, but if I have high hopes for a young promising receiver, I sure as hell ain't comparing him to the last three! Maybe somewhere between the two groups, but not the bottom.

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BirdDogUni's picture

December 14, 2022 at 12:56 pm

*You just did.

"Can’t put Watson in the same sentence as Moss, Rice, and Megatron."

Christian "TD" Watson is in a class all by himself. We'll see if Moss, Rice, and Megatron can be mentioned in the same sentence with CW09 in 10 - 15 years... ;P

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stockholder's picture

December 14, 2022 at 07:55 am

I still blame Dillion's problems on the OL. Ending the Revolving door experiments had to happen.
Trash can. The DL still needs help. The odds don't matter. Just win.
Watson doesn't need to be compared to anyone. He's the #1 WR on this club.
Douglass might be Micheal Hyde. But I'll bet we draft some safety help.
Love - I still say trade him. Don't care if he plays another down for the packers.

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PackyCheese500's picture

December 14, 2022 at 09:12 am

While the Packers see Love every day, you know that other teams have only seen 9 snaps of Love, right? The most we could get for him would likely be a day 3 pick, and is that worth the vey real possibility of having another great QB? Or is it because having Love’s cheap presence on his rookie contract upsets your (overpaid) lord and savior, Aaron Rodgers?

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croatpackfan's picture

December 14, 2022 at 08:05 am

Thanks Al. Nice as always. Nothing to add or to comment on your article.

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RCPackerFan's picture

December 14, 2022 at 08:19 am

Dillon's head -
We could definitely see that he hasn't been as decisive and that he just wasn't the same. The last few games he has started to come on more.

Trash Can Removal -
I really liked Heflin. I would have liked to have seen him getting more playing time. But like you stated that 3 guys ahead of him barely can get any. We have yet to see Ford play.

Run the table -
I don't really care about odds to be honest. Unless I'm betting. And I'm not betting anything on this GB team.
I'm going to sit and watch and hope they do run the table.

Watson Comparison -
I really have a hard time comparing Watson to anyone, because he is just different. He has traits of all of them. I am too young to really remember Lofton, so I like to compare to players that I got to see live. I can see Moss with his speed and size. Megatron is still a different player to me. The only person right now that I can compare his speed to is Tyreek Hill. Someone that as soon as he is free, no one is catching them. (I'm not comparing him to Hill, just his speed).

Playing it Safe with Rasul -
Maybe it makes sense. But I like Douglas as a CB. Sure he will get burned some. But I love his physicality. I love how he can play the run from the outside. What needs to happen is the DC needs to be smarter then us and figure out the best way to use him.

See the Love -
Love looked night and day better against the Eagles then has in any of his previous performances. I'm sure a few things have helped. He has gotten a lot more reps with Rodgers being hurt. He has Tom Clements helping teaching him how to be QB. Things are slowing down for him.
For the first time against the Eagles, Love looked like he could be our future QB. I haven't gotten that feeling anytime before this.

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Guam's picture

December 14, 2022 at 08:22 am

Dillon may have been thinking too much, but taking handoffs from QB1 in shotgun wasn't helping him. Almost by definition taking a handoff in shotgun makes the running back hesitate versus getting two steps toward the line of scrimmage before taking the ball. As Al pointed out, physical momentum is just science and a big back needs that momentum to be most effective. Too bad the Packer coaching staff can't figure that out (or QB1 doesn't like it).

It is always sad to see a dream wither and Jack Heflin deserves better than "a trash can full of dirt" jokes. He was a try hard guy who likely just wasn't athletic enough to play in the NFL. I wish him well going forward.

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RCPackerFan's picture

December 14, 2022 at 10:41 am

"Dillon may have been thinking too much, but taking handoffs from QB1 in shotgun wasn't helping him. "

I have been wanting them to run out of the Pistol more. I think this would be perfect for Dillon. He is moving downhill when getting the handoff. Let him have that head of steam moving forward.

It reminds me of Eddie Lacy a bit. When Rodgers got hurt and could barely move, they put Lacy behind him and Lacy was better. I think they need to do that with Dillon more.

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dobber's picture

December 14, 2022 at 01:11 pm

I'm sure the stats are out there for the Packers' O when 12 is playing under center and when he's playing out of the gun. I'd like to see those numbers.

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Leatherhead's picture

December 14, 2022 at 05:38 pm

It's easier to run the ball when your RB is lined up behind the QB, even if he's offset. It gives him another couple short acceleration steps before he cuts and takes off.

But....there are obvious advantages to running the ball out of the shotgun, as well. It lends itself to trickery,especially if you've got a tricky bastard handling the ball. Plus, as I've stated before, when you line up 3 WRs out of the shotgun, your opponent is almost forced to counter with 5 DBs, and that's only going to leave 6 run defenders, and with our TE, we have 6 blockers. That's winning math for the offense, IMO.

Dillon may be a better back out of the I, but would it be a better offense?

I want to share this fact I saw today: The Packers have had 8 games where they had 111 yards or less, and they lost all of them except the Tampa game.
In the other 5 games, we had 175 or more and went 4-1, losing to Buffalo.

Nothing in between. Either less than 111, or more than 175. Jekyll and Hyde.

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Bitternotsour's picture

December 14, 2022 at 08:24 am

Al, you suffered from too short of a comparison window. For us elders in the know, the guy Watson should be compared to is Lance "Bambi" Alworth.

Makes considerable sense too, as the guy tossing him the ball now is the equivalent of a late career John Hadl...

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13TimeChamps's picture

December 14, 2022 at 09:14 am

Either you have a very bad memory or you never actually watched Hadl's "career" as a Packer... 9TDs/29INTs. Not seeing anything Rodgers-esque there at all.

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Bitternotsour's picture

December 14, 2022 at 11:11 am

I didn't specify his late Packers career, but thanks for noticing. I'll stick with the Alworth comparison though.

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13TimeChamps's picture

December 14, 2022 at 11:24 am

No worries. Just thought it was an odd comparison. Hadl had more career INTs than TDs, basically a turnover machine throughout his career. Rodgers has thrown the least amount of INTs compared to TDs in NFL history up to this point, pretty much the polar opposite of Hadl.

I do remember Alworth. While several inches shorter than Watson, his speed and propensity for scoring TDs seems similar. Hopefully Watson joins him the HOF someday. I'll take that comparison all day long.

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Johnblood27's picture

December 14, 2022 at 08:45 pm

my bad

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Since'61's picture

December 14, 2022 at 09:00 am

Heflin - I didn't know that he was still on the team so his departure is a non-issue. I don't think he ever actually played a snap in an NFL game. No loss there.

Dillon isn't the only player on the Packers this season who has not been himself. Alexander, Stokes before his injury, Campbell before his injury, Clark, Amos, Savage, P. Smith, Myers, Jenkins, Tonyan, and Rodgers. Rodgers is due to playing through his injuries but the rest of the players mentioned and probably a few others have all been off their best this season. Coaching??? No doubled it's a factor. Misuse of players? For sure.

Run the Table. Doesn't matter? Play to win yes. Play smart first. Play Love, move Rasul to Safety with Ford. Give Wyatt and Slayton more snaps on the DL. Move Clark to DE. Use this time to see what the younger players can contribute going forward. If run the table happens it happens. If we reach the playoffs Great! But do it with the young guys. Turn the page already!

Watson - Forget the comparisons. Just let Watson be Watson. He needs to make his own way in the league. He doesn't need expectations heaped on him as to who or what he should be at this point. Let him play, get the ball to him and see what happens. Thanks, Since '61

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LeotisHarris's picture

December 14, 2022 at 09:19 am

Kudos to Gabrielle Dillon for her insight into her hubby. The Packers should bring her in as a consultant to determine reasoning and problem solving ability within the organization from the top down. Could be some interesting pie charts and bar graphs. I'd suspect a "not thinking enough" cluster or two.

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tincada's picture

December 14, 2022 at 11:40 am

Good idea but you one of the 3 stooges saying that they are going sit down with AR to talk it over, but........ Reasoning and problem solving is not in their collective little minds.

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relleum61's picture

December 14, 2022 at 09:27 am

Lofton was the first great Packer receiver that I remember as my Packer memories only go back to 1971. That said, I forgot how fast Lofton was. I do see shades of Lofton's game in Watson so it will be interesting to see how Watson progresses in the next year or two. Here is a video of Lofton highlights! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EapvtHLxB0 Enjoy!

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relleum61's picture

December 14, 2022 at 09:27 am

my apologies... duplicate

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coolhand's picture

December 14, 2022 at 10:09 am

Lofton looks so smooth when he runs, like he is just gliding down the field

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LeotisHarris's picture

December 14, 2022 at 01:31 pm

Lofton was an NCAA long jump champion at Stanford, ran sprints, too; 100, 200, 400. In his prime, many considered him the best athlete in the NFL.

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Handsback's picture

December 14, 2022 at 10:12 am

I met James Lofton when I was working in Santa Rosa, CA. He came into our office by mistake. I directed him to the right location (next door) and a person in our office said it was James Lofton.
45 minutes later I was going to lunch and he was getting into his Porsche and I asked if he was JL. He laughed and said yes. I told him I was a big Packer fan and really enjoyed watching him play there. He said something about loving the team but not the area and went on his way.
The one thing about Lofton...he wasn't that tall. I would say 6-1.

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Philarod's picture

December 14, 2022 at 11:00 am

Quick Comments:

Douglas to safety? Seems to make good sense, but until you do so...

Run the Table? I'm not a betting man, but maybe 30 0r 50:1? Still, I'd like to see it. If/when eliminated, start Love.

Watson comparison? Who knows, but if I saw a comparison to those mentioned, it would be to Lofton. I don't see the extreme athleticism and ball skills of Moss, or those traits along with the physicality of Megatron. But of course, I am liking what I've been seeing.

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tincada's picture

December 14, 2022 at 11:34 am

The only table that's going to run is at AR's house as he's laughing his a** off on the deal he stuck the 3 stooges with.

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tincada's picture

December 14, 2022 at 11:28 am

Give Watson a year or two in the Packers' weight room

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Perfect timing for the Diva's departure.

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PeteK's picture

December 14, 2022 at 11:41 am

--The lines on both sides of the ball were a big disappointment for me this season, and I hope Wyatt isn't the next can of dirt moved out.

-- Watson has a good chance to score 10 TDs, which is amazing considering the time he missed. He needs to learn how to protect his body after receptions. Too early for a comparison.

-- I think Douglas and Ford are keepers for the safety position, but we still need that center field ball hawk type of FS that we thought Savage would be. Unfortunately, we are stuck with Amos/Savage for another year because they both have about an 8 mill dead cap.

-- I want wins for the rest of the season especially against Lions and Vikes. Wether we pick 10 or 15 doesn't matter to me, but wins setup confidence for next season.

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PackyCheese500's picture

December 14, 2022 at 11:56 am

Yosh was a bright spot. I believe he ranks in the top 6 of all OTs in pass block win rate and in run block win rate.

At this point, the Vikings look more beatable than the lions. The Vikings are basically Juston Jefferson, Dalvin Cook, and not much else.

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LambeauPlain's picture

December 14, 2022 at 12:13 pm

I would grudgingly add Cousins. He throws an accurate ball which is perfect for him since Jefferson is open 75% of the time. (Stinky Vikings:-(

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dobber's picture

December 14, 2022 at 01:19 pm

Of the top 10 QBs in terms of yardage, the two lowest in QBR are Cousins and Brady.

It feels good to type that.

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PackyCheese500's picture

December 14, 2022 at 02:58 pm

Statistically he has been having a sub-par year.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

December 14, 2022 at 01:19 pm

I much prefer to have Lowry removed from the premises - than Heflin.

Wonder what the odds are of the Board of Directors running Mark Murphy out of town?

Watson's emergence as a r.o.y. candidate has overcome several obstacles - including Rodgers ignoring him for long stretches of the season.

Changes only happen from Packers management strictly if they have to - not want to. Of course Love (and others) should now be playing more at this stage of the season. However, best not to hold our breaths.

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Leatherhead's picture

December 14, 2022 at 05:45 pm

Lowry is leaving the building. We'll be paying him $3 million to NOT play for us, and he'll be a FA who can play for whoever he wants, and whatever they're willing to pay him. My guess is that he'll get some very good offers. Heflin, on the other hand, if he gets signed at all by anybody, will be playing for the minimum.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

December 14, 2022 at 06:18 pm

Lowry has been paid 30 X more than Heflin this year - while providing a minimal / negative on-field performance. Lowry has essentially been an animated pylon on the DL for the past 3+ years. Thinking that Heflin couldn't have done much worse than that and at 1/30 of the cost to the Packers. I accept that neither are the answer to the DL, but for reasons only known to Packers management - Lowry has remained a consistent starter. Just another reason why the Packers are having such a poor season. Also, if Lowry gets the veteran's minimum to play next year - he'll be most fortunate.

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Ikrispy's picture

December 14, 2022 at 02:38 pm

Interesting thought experiment. Let's say we do see the Pack lose on Monday and they do play Love out the rest of the season. (I personally think he will perform much better in this offense than AR). Let's say he wins out and by some remote quirk of fate, they make the playoffs. Who goes in at QB?

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T7Steve's picture

December 14, 2022 at 02:49 pm

Who's on second?

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Starrbrite's picture

December 14, 2022 at 02:47 pm

When our opponents are running for plus 200 yds, I think Heflin was worth a glimpse.
I don’t buy the Megatron/Watson comparison. I first believed Javon Walker was the best comparison, but after watching some Lofton videos, I see why others see the resemblance.
Since Douglas was signed, many of us have suggested Douglas should be at safety and/or nickel. As you pointed out he is instinctive—.
Every sport requires being strong in the middle and I believe we’re moving in that direction.

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PackyCheese500's picture

December 14, 2022 at 02:59 pm

Douglas didn't do well in the slot. Too slow to cover quick WRs. Best put him at Safety, as you said.

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Leatherhead's picture

December 14, 2022 at 05:42 pm

"When our opponents are running for plus 200 yds, I think Heflin was worth a glimpse.".

The only team which has run for over 180 yards on the Packers this year is the Eagles.

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dobber's picture

December 14, 2022 at 06:41 pm

Well, he should've played then then...then...

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Leatherhead's picture

December 14, 2022 at 03:19 pm

Once Upon A Time, we had a draft that featured Love, Dillon, and Deguara as our first three picks. The day is coming when we're going to see them on the field together, along with Watson and Doubs and Toure. We might add some guys before next year, but this is going to be the core group of skill position guys next year.

Watson seems like he might be superduper, if he can just stay on the field.

Dillon is a good piece. He runs, blocks, catches passes. He's assignment sure. He's been durable. If Jones is traded, I'd look to get a supplementary guy to pair with Dillon. I like the two back attack and I think it keeps them fresher and healthier during the game and season.

Next year, Lowry and Heflin will both be with other teams. One of them will get paid a lot, and the other one will get the minimum. And there's a reason for that.

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dobber's picture

December 14, 2022 at 06:43 pm

And it all begins and ends with the OL. Here's hoping they're guessing right, there.

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