Oh how fast the excuses start. Gute gave up two first round picks, a very good DT, and put us in a salary cap situation that we finally got out of. Parsons better be playing 80% of the defensive snaps. This is one of the biggest games of the season. These are the Lions, last years division champs. He better be ready to play and play. If his back was an issue which it is then they should not have made this deal.

I had the Packers at 8 wins before the trade. I added two wins after the trade. They will squeak into the playoffs.

In two years Parsons will not be happy and want more money and Gute will be fired because we did not reap the benefits of a big trade.

I would expect Parsons to play on obvious passing downs and not much more. His back doesn't need the strain of standing up 300 pound tackles until that injury heals. And it is hard to pick up the nuances of a different defense in one week. Give him a little time.

A more interesting question for me is how much does he play edge and how much does he play linebacker? Parsons can do both and given the Packers depth at DE and McDuffie being the third LB, I think we might see Parsons as the third LB in a 4-3 set.

Pitch count, situational, whatever, he's not ready to start the season at 100% participation. The Packers aren't dumb, and they won't be with Reed either. If it comes down to their participation to ensure a victory, we're not close enough in talent as I think.

No excuse for game results. This is a division game, and we need to turn our division record around from last season. 6 and 0 is not a bad goal to shoot for. Then throw in some playoff victories just to put exclamation marks on it.

There are some Reggie Whites where the talent transfers and elevates the new team. But more often, the star was made to a big extent by the system and situation, and that does not significantly elevate the new team. Khalil Mack was supposed to be the "generational talent", so how did that work for the Bears? I am not optimistic about Parsons being the "generational talent" missing piece on the 2025/26 superbowl aspirations. It sort of sets the back end of the "window of opportunity" to lose 2 future first rounders. So, the next 3 years better yield some gold hardware.

Well, #1 gets to be on the real America's team.

I am trying to reserve judgement until I see the team playing real football. It is always action, not words.

I am still excited for the new season. Always have, always will. The 70s and 80s saw to that.

Now, letz gnaw on some kneecaps and bring on the snot bubbles.

Your not so secret admirer,
PB

* if some of the Lions players wear t-shirts for pregame warmup disparaging the Packers and their fans....well, #1, you go over there and give them all titty twisters with attitude.

Parsons is not completely game ready and he needs to last 17 games. He will play some reps but should not play the entire game against a team like the Lions, who will be gunning for him. I live in the Bay Area and all offseason we were saturated with news of Trent Williams and Brandon Aiyuk's contract demands. Neither of them were game-ready when the contract fiasco was finally settled at the beginning of the season-neither had seen the field since the previous season, returned too quickly and both ended up injured for lengthy periods.
This game is more about MLF's preparation and in-game decisions. Also, the OL needs to hold up-
Love is also not 100%-ligament surgery does not render a ligament healed in 3.5 weeks.If he plays, he could re-injure. Nor does a meniscus repair miraculously heal in 1 month-Hobbs- He needs to be able to accelerate @ high speeds-he needs a strong knee to do that. Hopefully, cooler heads will be in charge game-day.

A home game against our biggest divisional rival. This is the biggest game of the regular season. So yes, I expect all hands on deck and doing whatever is necessary to win this game. Better to beat Detroit and lose to Washington than the other way around.

That said, I've got a bad back right now and the idea of playing football with it is mind blowing.

I don’t live in the past. The Packers can win this game without Parsons and Reed not playing. It’s a long season. What a team has done in the past does not matter. This is a new season. If we play a solid game and stay away from the penalties and dropped passes , we will win the game. The Lions and their rah, rah coach do not scare me, Go Pack Go!!!

4 years from now. Copper All Pro year after year

Parsons barely hanging on to be in the league .

I bet he puts on weight in Green Bay

Lower back issues don’t go away

He was lying on a table for Dallas pre season games. His brother said he was hurt. Anyone that has a lower back issues knows this.

That’s why other teams stayed away

I would not play Parsobs tell after the bye. Period. Period. Period. 4 to 6 weeks to get better in shape and learn the playbook

3 plays

1. Rush from the left
2 rush up the middle
3 rush from the right

We have Cox. He’s looking for more reps anyway .

One more.

Let’s face it. Image going to work 3 years or more and making X amount working your butt off. A new guy comes and gets hired and they pay him 15 times more than you maybe 20 times more
And might have to call in sick a few days before he can work.

I’m not a doctor familiar with his actual medical prognosis. Therefore I have no clue how healthy he is or of the potential for aggravation.

Even if he is essentially full healthy, he’s not actually practiced all summer and there is a difference between fit to practice and ready to play. Moreover, he’s new to the system, albeit at a position where that can be overcome somewhat, but that is done by limiting usage at first

All in all, I’d not play him at all (though I’d dress him to mess with opponents) if I thought that he needs a couple of weeks to get fully healthy. If this team need him to win when not fully healthy, then we probably don’t have an adequate platform for him to make enough difference when he is.

Assuming his back is genuinely minor, some limited snaps if he’s close to full health, especially if we can get ahead (so increasing the likelihood of passing) and perhaps some decoy use where he doesn’t rush. LaFleur’s offensive efficiency may have a lot to do with how busy he is initially. If they are just pounding us back on the ground in the middle, then not so much too. I suspect we find out early if Wooden is really viable as a run stopping NT against Detroit, as much recent hype claims.

What’s it going to take to get you into this car today.
Oh by the way it has two bad cylinders. L4 and L5

I will take it and pay over sticker price and double the doc fee please

I hope I’m wrong 100 percent in all this
But

He reminds me of Lance Briggs good a couple of years then after the big money contract. So so

'I know that Parsons has been cleared but this is also Week 1. If anything, Parsons should be kept on a pitch count and held to a certain number of snaps.'

I am sure he will be on some type of pitch count based on Gute saying he will help in some way against Detroit. He needs to be healthy enough to play a bunch and he needs some time to get up to speed with a new team.

I assume Parsons will be on a pitch count. Not a full load as he has very limited practice time.

Now I did see some practice video where Parsons drilled and lifted the practice sled 3 feet off the ground. So whatever his “back issue” this is not something you see someone even attempt if they are truly hurting. Don’t listen to people on the internet especially from those who would love to see this fail. Lots of “copium” floating around.

My understanding is that Parsons has been dealing with the "back issue" for almost a month now. What is the prognosis from the doctors? I could care less about opinions from non medical personnel. Did Jerry Jones fleece us with this deal? Why the hell is all this coming out now; just days before the most important game of the new season? Back issues as everyone knows can be chronic. This is extremely frustrating to say the least.

My understanding of a Jones fracture affecting #11 is that without surgery it won't recover without some serious time off. I have to wonder if it didn't happen about the time he went MIA last season.

Obviously we don't want Micah Freaking Parsons hurt; I have no idea of his back situation. Apparently he wasn't just faking it to gain leverage negotiating with the Cowgirls?

I predict a Packers win, 74-0. What, I AM being reasonable!!

Wow. It doesn't take much to start a stampede here.

Most likely scenario: Parsons plays, the Packer play well and win this game at home. The OL simply pushes Detroit out of the way and the RBs take care of the rest. Detroit plays well, but ultimately makes too many mistakes to survive. Packers go 1-0

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Detroit, previously, ran numerous plays where the ball is out of Goff's hand before any pass rush could reach him. Parsons will help, but stopping that is a team effort. This is a league where 70% of passes get completed.

Hopefully, you have a secondary that can keep people covered for more than two seconds. If you do, then the pressure has a chance. You have 4 guys, and 3 of them will be in one on one situations. About 1/3 of the time, you'll send five or six rushers, but it still comes down to winning one on one battles.

Of course, you double team Parsons, so it's the other 3 guys who have to apply the pressure. That's likely to be Wyatt, Gary, and probably Brooks.

how about MLF gets the offense to produce early and often so Parsons can ease his way in ?

Let the focus be on Parsons, Cooper will be their worst nightmare. Just my gut!

Regarding Parsons, it's not uncommon for NFL pass rushers to play through back issues, but the severity and specific type of injury are critical factors. The position itself puts immense strain on a player's back. The explosive movements, torquing of the spine to generate power, and repeated impacts with offensive linemen make back injuries a frequent problem.

Micah Parsons' situation, a facet joint sprain in his L4/L5 vertebrae, is a real concern. Here's some info:

It's a recognized and confirmed/legit injury: Parsons' back issue has been confirmed by both the Dallas Cowboys and a well-known orthopedic spine surgeon, Dr. Robert Watkins. This suggests it's not just a minor issue or a tactic in contract negotiations. Parsons is managing the tightness with PT and medication, including a course of prednisone.

While the injury is concerning and not to be ignored, it seems manageable and (since he seems to receive epidural injections) to play through the pain.

This injury is not unique to Parsons. Other players, including pass rushers, have dealt with similar back issues. For example, former 49ers pass rusher Dee Ford has spoken openly about his struggles with chronic back problems, which he managed with a carefully planned snap count.

An L4/L5 facet joint sprain can be painful and limit a player's explosive movements, but with the right medical care and pain management, Parsons can still perform at a high level, albeit potentially on a "pitch count" or with a limited workload (i.e. 'use him wisely'.) This plays well for GB who has a number of talented DE rushers -- it will allow all of them to be fresh throughout games and strong in the 4th Q -- a recent GB problem on defense.

Parsons passed his physical. So, the medical staff believes the injury is manageable and not a long-term career-threatening problem. However, as with any back injury, it's something that will require constant monitoring and can be a recurring issue for a player in a physically demanding role.

I also gather Parsons has 'fire' and really pushes himself. I take this as a positive -- meaning he's not an 'I stubbed my toe, I'll be out a month' kind of guy...but moreso wanting to be out there and push the medical staff to do so. I'd rather have a guy wanting to play through issues and working hard to manage (chronic pain) than the overly-cautious 'soft' dude. I think Vince woulda kinda liked 11 of this type of guy on D.

Pass rushers, particularly those who are highly-paid and expected to be on the field, generally express a desire to play through facet joint sprains, viewing them as a manageable, albeit painful, part of the job. Their comments often reflect a high pain tolerance and a commitment to their team, even with a known injury.

Bad back??
Every NFL team has a chiropractor on staff.