Cory's Corner: Clay Matthews Must Look In The Mirror

Clay Matthews has a reputation as a dynamic playmaker, which is why he’s been coined as the “Claymaker.”

The problem is, he hasn’t been a playmaker since 2014 when he translated 28 quarterback hurries into 11 sacks. Last year he had 18 hurries and only got home 7½ times.

Then there’s the issue with his health. Matthews has missed six games the last two seasons combined, yet he is confident enough to say things like this at Organized Team Activities, “You look at the depth at the outside linebacker position and it’s not that great.”

Come on Matthews. You’re entering your 10thseason and you’ve got the courage to rip on your teammates? What needed to be said from the 32-year-old was some honesty about himself. Something like, the defense has been mediocre the last few seasons and the reason falls squarely on my shoulders.

Matthews went on to add, “At some time I’m sure (the depth at outside linebacker) will be addressed, but for the time being the guys we have here are the guys who have to hold up their end of the bargain.”

Speaking of bargain, Matthews and Nick Perry will account for 11.66 percent of the 2018 salary cap — and both guys have missed a combined 12 games in the last two seasons. 

Matthews is just trying to cover himself if injuries derail his and Perry’s season again. But calling out guys like Reggie Gilbert, Kyler Fackrell and Vince Biegel isn’t the rallying recipe. 

Both Matthews and Perry know that a lot of pressure is on their shoulders. They know that if they combine for 39 quarterback hurries like they did a year ago, the secondary will snap. Even a solid secondary with a first and second rounder spent on corners will be pushed to the limit if the front seven cannot make the opposing quarterback uncomfortable. Coincidentally, 39 quarterback hurries would have tied for ninth with Brian Orakpo and remember, that’s a combined number with Matthews and Perry. 

Matthews can complain all he wants about the lack of depth, but if the defense is missing that electric punch again, the blame will fall on Matthews’ and Perry’s feet. 

The season doesn’t start until Sept. 9 and Matthews is already giving out an ultimatum. If Green Bay’s defense struggles, it’s because the lack of depth at outside linebacker hurt their chances. However, if the defense plays well, that will give even more value to Matthews and Perry. Pretty timely seeing as how Matthews is in a contract year. 

Matthews used to play like his long hair was on fire. He’d be all over the field as his body would somehow be flying to the ball in what seemed to be regular consistency. 

But somewhere along the way, Matthews made business decisions. Where was he in the closing moments of the 2014 NFC Championship debacle that saw the Packers lose 28-22 in overtime at Seattle? 

Both guys know that they have been cast as leading actors in the 3-4. With the defensive line playing well, both of those guys have to be a force up front. 

Matthews should be pegged as a leader by now, but questioning why the depth chart isn’t better is something that complainers say.

Leaders don’t say that, they figure out a way to make it better. The Packers obviously trust in Matthews and Perry, it’s time for those two to trust the Packers. 

 

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Cory Jennerjohn is a graduate from UW-Oshkosh and has been in sports media for over 15 years. He was a co-host on "Clubhouse Live" and has also done various radio and TV work as well. He has written for newspapers, magazines and websites. He currently is a columnist for CHTV and also does various podcasts. He recently earned his Masters degree from the University of Iowa. He can be found on Twitter: @Coryjennerjohn

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Packer_Fan's picture

May 29, 2018 at 06:24 am

I don't agree. That QB rush in the Cleveland game was a play maker. When QB's throw in rhythm, it is difficult to make a play. Same thing when QB's know what defense you are in. They pick the play that works. I think this year with a better secondary, things will be different.

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TKWorldWide's picture

May 29, 2018 at 02:41 pm

I think Clay might already look in the mirror too much as it is.

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4thand1's picture

May 29, 2018 at 03:25 pm

Fabio

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4thand1's picture

May 29, 2018 at 03:25 pm

Fabio

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Lare's picture

May 29, 2018 at 05:35 pm

Clay's hair may be better than he is.

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TKWorldWide's picture

May 29, 2018 at 07:32 pm

4th and Lare: both spot on!

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HankScorpio's picture

May 29, 2018 at 08:18 pm

Beat me to it, Packer Fan.

Coverage and pass rush are linked both ways. Pass rush can't hang the DBs out to dry for 7-8 seconds. But the DBs have to cover long enough to give the pass rush a reasonable chance to get home. I see fans mentioned the former point all the time. I don't see much mention of the latter one. But it is just as true.

It's obvious how the Packers viewed the balance of that relationship. They dumped 2 starting DBs, signed a FA and drafted coverage help with their first 3 picks. They largely stood pat with their pass rush, adding just Wilkerson and some late picks/projects

We'll see how that assessment works out in 2018

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Bure9620's picture

May 29, 2018 at 06:36 am

Totally agree with this article, to me, this sounds like sour grapes from an aging veteran, how does Matthews really know what Biegel has after an injury plagued rookie season?? No one does. In 2 games, Gilbert created the most consistent pass rush I have seen from any OLB last season, keep in mind that was against Minnesota and and Detrioit's starters , not pre season heroics. He feels a bit threatened by Gilbert. Clay know ls he needs a big season because his production has just not been there in years, abd he is in a contract year. I am not talking sacks either, pressures, QB hurries are just as important. Unless he just thinks he is head and shoulders better than the backups, which he is not at this stage.

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ShanghaiKid's picture

May 29, 2018 at 09:53 pm

I have to kindly disagree, Matthews is definitely head and shoulders above his backups at this stage of the game. Considering nobody has any idea how good/bad they are. At the very least we know Matthews CAN produce, and has produced when healthy.

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NickPerry's picture

May 30, 2018 at 04:36 am

Gilbert also played in the final 2 games of the season on FRESH legs against what I'm assuming were players who had both started 15 and 16 games.

I'm not trying to knock Gilbert but I imagine fresh legs at the end of the year is big.

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croatpackfan's picture

May 29, 2018 at 08:44 am

Well Cory, I read article month or 2 earlier when, on APC, author gave film evidence how, actually, Packers pass rush was not that bad people are talking.

It shows how totally terrible Packers secondary did not give less than half of the second to Packers pass rushers (that small portion of the time which cause QB to rethink were to go with the ball!) they were needed to reach opponent QB and made sacks...

While I agree with you that Clay should use supportive narrative when he is talking about young guys on the roster, I believe that batter secondary will give the time to Packers pass rush to reach the QB.

Support fact to my opinion I see in the stat against RB, were Packers pass rushers helped a lot in stopping opponent running game...

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RCPackerFan's picture

May 29, 2018 at 07:05 am

Mathews can make plays, and can still be an effective player. Just like Packer Fan above said the Cleveland game was a prime example.
If you follow Ben Fennel on twitter you will see the numerous times Mathews makes an impact on the game and in plays but isn't getting the stats for it. He is taking on 2-3 guys redirecting the ball carrier to someone else. Or he is getting near the QB forcing him to move which sometimes leads to a sack.

Two of the biggest problems with the pass rush of the last few years has been the predictability of the defense followed up by poor CB play. When offenses know what you are doing, its pretty easy to attack. When CB play is substandard, they know what they can run and get the ball out fast.
Both of those 2 problems look like they are fixed. Or at least they look like they are fixed on paper.

I think we will see a much improved pass rush just from better CB play and a DC that will create a lot of different looks.

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Minniman's picture

May 29, 2018 at 03:23 pm

I thought that both RC and Croat made great points regarding Clay Matthews playing in a predictable scheme these last couple of years

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-turning-point/0ap3000000896058/Cam-calls-o...

I'm going to cool my jets till I see the team play this year before I consider whether Matthews is over the hill.

One thing though, he probably hasn't done his public-perceived brand any favors as a senior player and team leader with this comment - maybe he's different inside the confines of the closed door sessions and game-day, and this was a slip of the tongue (I haven't heard him being negative before).

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Razer's picture

May 29, 2018 at 07:21 am

I thought that Clay Matthews played hard and with grit right down to the last game in 2017. He did what he could on a low talent, poorly organized defense. Watching him pound up against the opponent's LT most of the game was the scheme. Still he played hard and made plays despite the lack of everything.

As for saying the Packers are thin at OLB - he is just being frank. Maybe it is a challenge to Fackrell, Biegel, Gilbert, Odem and even Perry to STEP UP. Rather than hear guys talk in cliches when interviewed, I want to hear a bit of plain truth. Matthews has the credibility to make this statement and he is still our best OLB by far.

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dobber's picture

May 29, 2018 at 07:28 am

Typing roughly the same thing at the same time...I give you the up-thumb!

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RCPackerFan's picture

May 29, 2018 at 07:44 am

I agree Razer. Very well said!

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Spock's picture

May 29, 2018 at 08:45 am

Razer, Well said. To me his statement was just a fact and he's earned the right to say it. I'm tired of the "I just want to be a team player" b.s. statements from players. I think he is showing he cares about the defense. That's a good thing.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

May 29, 2018 at 11:01 am

I agree. I believe CM3 (while no longer elite going one on one against an OT) can be very good if his teammates make the QB move off his spot. I think CM3 still has good lateral agility and closing speed. If someone flushes a QB, I think CM3 is best able of our OLBs to use the change in positioning against an OT and close in on a QB for a sack or QB hit.

I don't think CM3 can honestly say that he's got to play better. I think he knows he can't play better, that this is what he's got. Better players like Daniels being joined by a surging Clark and a rejuvenated Wilkerson will make more of a difference to CM3 than it will to Perry (though it should help them both, of course).

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Mojo's picture

May 29, 2018 at 01:18 pm

I think CM3 can look in the mirror knowing he's given it everything he's got.

More so, from a physical standpoint than any GB player I've seen the last ten years. He constantly hustles. Constantly.

He doesn't have the bend anymore nor the impact he did as a youngin, although just about everyone in the know said he had a maybe not great but good season last year.

Is he overpaid right now based on production? Sure, but maybe underpaid during the first half of his career.

And as the other posters said, it's refreshing to hear like it is from CM3 instead of some PC panegyric that glosses over the obvious reality.

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Ryan Graham's picture

May 29, 2018 at 02:55 pm

Dobber, I agree with you if in fact the objective was to light a fire under his teammates. maybe he said it knowing hes gonna be playing in the middle more. I think it's a little inappropriate to say it to the media and I'd personally rather it been done behind closed doors. There is no denying his production as a pass rusher has not matched his price tag...no one can argue that. I think he has the ability to produce as a pass rusher, he obviously has the skillset, but I know that if it's the Clay Matthews we've seen the last few years who is banged up and cant stay in the game he doesnt have any business to question someone elses abilities. I sure hope that's not the case and it's not like I'm not gonna be a fan, but it sure wouldnt look good if he isnt suiting up.

I'm purposefully using the phrase "as a pass rusher" because well he is more than a pass rusher. Hes quietly been among the best in the league at setting the edge on run plays. Also I bring it up because like its been said in this post there is a high premium on pass rushers. That said he hasn't really earned that premium since 2014 and that's just the truth of it.

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dobber's picture

May 29, 2018 at 07:25 am

It's fine to say he needs to look in the mirror, but there's been a underlying sentiment in the fan base for years wanting CMIII to step up and be a vocal leader for this team. If he'd said what you worded:
“At some time I’m sure (the depth at outside linebacker) will be addressed, ...hold up their end of the bargain.”
I think many people would be saying, "CMIII: candy coating things to be a company man."

I think many people agree with what his statement ultimately says. It's a challenge to his teammates and it's not a milquetoast, "don't ruffle any feathers" one. I hope those players backing him up take it personally...now do something about it. I'm glad he said it.

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Bearmeat's picture

May 29, 2018 at 09:24 am

The issue with this take is that Cory is right - CM3 is not a game-changing player. He hasn't been since 2014. ARod has that kind of clout to get away with challenging his teammates. DBak, maybe Davante. Right now, that's it. CM3 certainly does not.

If CM3 was still a blue chip player, he'd beat his man on a semi-routine basis. He is not, so he does not. We do not have an OLB1 on this team. We have 2 OLB2's who are oft injured and a bunch of projects who the odds are stacked against.

Clay is dead on with his statement, but the fact that he is the one who said it is problematic.

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Handsback's picture

May 29, 2018 at 07:27 am

I think the OLBs in the Packer's organization will owe a debt to the dline guys this season. Wilks, Daniels, and Clark will keep those double teams on the LBs to a minimum. Realize that those three down linemen are all very active and very tough to block one-on-one. The offensive line coaches will have to decide if they want pressure up the middle or make those edge rushers to run further in order to pressure the QB. That answer makes it possible for Perry and Matthews to make some plays this year. Oh, and if the DBs make a big step forward.....even better conditions for getting to the QB.

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4zone's picture

May 29, 2018 at 08:25 am

Agree Hb

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stockholder's picture

May 29, 2018 at 07:38 am

Mathews is 32 now. Not 24. He's been accused of HGH and questioned by the league. He's been double teamed. The fruits of his labor have been for nothing. He's been the defense. He's going to get tired of getting hurt for what? To be effective it takes more help. Help that never arrived.

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LambeauPlain's picture

May 29, 2018 at 10:51 am

CMIII hardly ever gets double teamed anymore. Just watch the video.

Perry is by far the better OLB now...but he is also even more injury prone.

CMIII is correct, however...OLB depth is an issue because both he and Perry are undependable.

That said, I can see both men having a career revival of sorts under Pettine who likes to move his guys around to maximize their strengths to attack the specific opponent of the week.

And I could see a healthy diet of 4-3 too, limiting the number of snaps for both guys.

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stockholder's picture

May 29, 2018 at 11:42 am

Saying Perry is better is debatable. But Perry did have more push from Mathews position. I can understand Mathews willingness to move to help the team. But How many Sacks do the other LBs have. Peppers could bring it, better than perry before his switch. And could move to the line. Mathews gets locked up in the middle more. But to say Perry is better is untrue. In 2010, Raji, Pickett, Jenkins and even Neal rushed. Mathews being younger only had to show speed. He still knows and how to lock up a QB better than anyone. Considering how many others have sacks, and pressures, is the real point.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

May 29, 2018 at 08:02 am

I think Clay is still a good player, but I'd like to see a good does of humility from him until he leads a defense that is not a sieve.

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4zone's picture

May 29, 2018 at 08:22 am

I have no problem with Clay"s effort. His injuries are his biggest detriment. I have always thought that solidifying the DL, adding to Clark and Daniels would help free up our OLBs to go more one-on-one instead of being double teamed all the time. Our DBs though have been our real problem. How many times have we seen completions without a DB within 5 yards of the WR, or even on the screen sometimes.

Randall and Rollins were head scratchers from the moment they were drafted. Last year's and this year"s guys are in a different galaxy than those two and I feel the CB position is becoming one of strength. It may take another year yet to get it fully up to speed but it sure can't be as bad as it's been.

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Bedrock's picture

May 29, 2018 at 08:35 am

This article is an overreaction to what Clay meant. He’s referring to the numbers. He went on to clarify that GB teams of the past had a rotation of 3 or 4 guys. He was referring to the idea that number of guys doesn’t exist in camp with the same level of experience as those groups of LBers.

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Lare's picture

May 29, 2018 at 02:59 pm

I think you're right, but he specifically mentions back when they had Mike Neal, Julius Peppers and Datone Jones. Except for Peppers (who left to supposedly end his career in Carolina), Neal and Jones were just guys. Neal didn't live up to his hype and never had more than 5 sacks in a season. Jones is still playing but only has 10 sacks his entire career.

The point is, the season doesn't start tomorrow. Matthews needs to quit trying to be the GM and wait until the season starts before he complains about the roster in May.

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Hawg Hanner's picture

May 29, 2018 at 08:50 am

Thought Matthew's comments however true were inappropriate. He is not playing up to his salary level. Will be interesting to see what happens after the season. Thinking this is his last year with us.

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stockholder's picture

May 29, 2018 at 10:48 am

We all see the writing on the wall. He's not Hawk. As long as people keep yelling for a pay cut. He will leave. I blame Moss for the LB problem. Moving Mathews around has not been the answer either. ( It only helped Nick Perry. ) The biggest mistake was Don Capers wasn't fired sooner. Mathews deserved better around him. He's always been a team player. As a rookie he did have better around him. Winning is his answer to anything inappropriate. He will play to win. Who's better than Clay Mathews? Perry? Martinez? Ryan? Look at what was drafted. Everyone that helped Mathews is GONE. This defense is not what it was in 2010. I don't question Mathews. I question why the Lbs weren't fixed sooner. Before Mathews was out on a limb.

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Bearmeat's picture

May 29, 2018 at 09:25 am

I said this in an article last week, but it was 100 comments in (I had a busy week) and it applies here too, so I'm gonna repost: :D
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OLB is the issue that many around here (including myself) have been shouting about for 2 years.

Let's all agree that UDFA's and Day 3 draft picks are a roughly 1/40 shot to become decent starting players, a roughly 1/80 shot to become red chip difference-making players and a 1/200 shot to become true blue chip all pros. And that this is exaggerated even more in the 2nd most prominent position in the NFL (pass rusher).

And. We. Literally. Almost. Have. Nothing. There. Just like last year, and the year before. Although CB was the downfall of the team the past two years (at least on paper), I think we'd all agree that our pass rush was, um, #$#@$@# poor and at least in part caused those passing numbers. And the fact is, at least the personnel department has TRIED to improve CB. They just messed it up. They've done bupkus at OLB since 2012. Bupkus.

Then let's look at the OLB position as if we weren't diehard fans. What do we all see? We'd be MOCKING that team if they were an opponent. We'd be licking our chops to see ARod just carve that team and it's "improved coverage" up because we KNOW that there won't be a pass rush!

Let's break it down, shall we?

1. An aging superstar who has not lived up to his contract in 4 years at least. He's now a red chip player when healthy and he gets hurt a lot.

2. An always-hurt red chip player who has only once in his career lived up to his potential - conveniently right before he cashed in with a big 2nd contract.

3. A day 3 pick who had both feet operated on last offseason and who is a completely unknown commodity at this point. Even to Packers coaches.

4. An UDFA who is intriguing, but we've seen this movie many times before. It almost always ends in tears.

5. A 3rd round bust who is now 28.

6. A Free Agent pickup who has HWS, but did not produce at all in his opportunities last year.

7. A 7th round HWS prospect who will not make the team this year.

Folks, this is a red light emergency. The pass rush had BETTER come from the scheme, DL, and secondary blitzes, because IF everything goes right at OLB (which hardly ever happens), the position will be merely average next year and I'd bet the mortgage that it will be bottom 5. It's sad, because there is REAL potential at literally every other position on the team.

I don't like it, but that's what I see.

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Doug_In_Sandpoint's picture

May 29, 2018 at 09:36 am

Bear, I like to think that I'm up on most acronyms but HWS escapes me. I did not stay at a Holiday Inn last night, but I don't see how a history of sadness means a player cannot be productive. And just because someone wears their pants too short (high-water slacks) doesn't mean they can't provide decent depth. Huge wanker syndrome might get in the way when rushing the passer but could actually be a source of pride. Enlighten me please...

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dobber's picture

May 29, 2018 at 09:39 am

Height/Weight/Speed.

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Bearmeat's picture

May 29, 2018 at 10:09 am

"I did not stay in a Holiday Inn last night..." LOL Doug!

And yes, Dobber is right. Height/Weight/Speed. Basically, a shorthand phrase for "dude is a good athlete but unproven as a football player."

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Tundraboy's picture

May 29, 2018 at 10:11 am

Bupkus is exactly the right term for this.

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Colin_C's picture

May 29, 2018 at 12:08 pm

I agree that the OLB group is on thin ice after CMIII and Perry, but there's a reason edge is a premium position. It's really hard to find great players, even in the 1st round. Short of making a blockbuster trade for a proven pass rusher (which we don't really have the personnel to do), we would have had to reach in this years draft for one. And even then, there was very little consensus on who was the 2nd best player. Point is, next year I think will be when we reload at the OLB position. Bosa, Ferrell, Gary, and others will be in play since we have ammunition to trade up. I expect our current OLB group to receive a veteran addition or two before week 1, but they probably will be average at best this year. Which is all we really need.

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Bearmeat's picture

May 29, 2018 at 12:21 pm

Yes, next year is much better in the draft for OLB. Yes, there was no consensus at OLB after Chubb this year (although I would have LOVED Landry in R2 - sigh). And yes, I agree that Gute must find an at least average snap eater veteran OLB this year. And yes, I agree "average at best" is the OLB ceiling this year.

The thing is, if we are expecting average, what's really likely to happen? My guess is somewhere between below average and dumpster fire. Like I said, some combination of (hoped for) better coaching/scheme, injury luck and the DL/secondary making up for OLB is all we have to lean on at this point.

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Minniman's picture

May 29, 2018 at 03:47 pm

Good segue to next years draft bear.

everyone here would agree that the packers had a number of positions to address this draft and FA and the regrettable fact was that not all could be.

TGR made a great point a couple of days ago stating that good EDGE players rarely come up in FA, especially at a price point that the Packers have.

So with 1 year left on CM3's contract, and Perry under contract, it appears that the Packers are going look to next years draft for a reload at OLB (unless one of those long-shots pay off).

Postscript: I'm not saying that I agree with this strategy (its a risk based on either Matthews\Perry staying healthy or an as yet unseen management plan), but sometimes the cards fall a certain way and that's how it is. Pettine obviously knows about this depth deficit, so I'm really interested to see how he manages it

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Bret Iverson's picture

May 29, 2018 at 09:42 am

Losing Peppers hurt because he was a better leader on and off the field. Mathews and Perry have never shown much on the leadership end. Being on the field for a full season is one trait, mentoring players, living year round in GB, and so on. Both Perry and Mathews are not going to be in GB next year unless they come back for a lower price.

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Tundraboy's picture

May 29, 2018 at 10:07 am

Sometimes I think that because he came in and won immediately with Rogers he thinks he's the ARod of the D still and that he's an elite talent. Whenever he makes a statement, he has an almost Rogers-like air to him, except that he does not have Rogers game.

I did once view him as potentially our first homegrown defensive star in years, but I just havent seen that hate to lose attitude from him.

Still waiting. At least for the sick of losing phase anger or something.

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Bearmeat's picture

May 29, 2018 at 10:07 am

Right on.

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Tundraboy's picture

May 29, 2018 at 10:21 am

Yup. And as you perfectly stated in your post we haven't done bupkus besides wait for him to emerge again or the typical put in a mid-round pick who doesn't show much then wait for the second year jump. Repeat, draft late-round project or or find undrafted player and wait for 2nd year jump from preceeding years pick.

What kills me, is that even with this dearth of talent, and rarely even in a case of an injury, do we put in a player like Gilbert who does flash something. we wait until there are no other options or the very end of the year, or next year.

Maybe we will be a blind squirrel this year and find a bumper crop.

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Bearmeat's picture

May 29, 2018 at 12:22 pm

My hope is that the Gilbert thing (and Bishop before him) is just Capers preferring veterans and being too rigid.

Good Lord, TT and Capers were a terrible combo.

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ThxJackVainisi's picture

May 29, 2018 at 10:10 am

I have no problem with Clay's play on the field, and I think the article is an overreaction to what he said. To me it's just a case of a very good player saying something stupid that served no purpose.

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Ferrari Driver's picture

May 29, 2018 at 10:15 am

Cory,

One of your best articles and I thought you were spot on!

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

May 29, 2018 at 10:53 am

Cory correctly reported what Sportrac assigns as percentages of the cap for Perry and CM3 (11.66%). The thing is, Sportrac arranges its information in bizarre ways at times, rendering their information difficult to use.

Sportrac adds up Perry's and CM3's cap hits correctly to a combined $22.11875M, but then bizarrely, IMO, divides that number by $189.705671M instead of the cap limit of $177.2M. The $189M number is the total value of all 89 contracts plus our dead money. This is an irrelevant number since each team has a different amount for total contracts and a different amount of dead money, and when cutdowns happen the $189M number will be $10M to $17M less more than likely. Thus, the % can't be compared with other teams. All Sportrac's positional spending databases have this issue.

CM3 and Perry have a 12.49% combined cap %. If they play all 16 games, it would be 12.58%.

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Bearmeat's picture

May 29, 2018 at 12:28 pm

That is so blatantly awful. Russ Ball needs to be held accountable for that mess. He did both contracts.

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Lare's picture

May 29, 2018 at 06:02 pm

Russ Ball did the contracts, but Thompson made the final decision on them. Thankfully, he's no longer in a position to do so.

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Bearmeat's picture

May 29, 2018 at 08:12 pm

Yeah. I get that. But it was a hugely stupid idea to sign Perry to that contract. And the second CM3 got paid, he stopped the roids. Ugh.

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LambeauPlain's picture

May 29, 2018 at 10:58 am

Gilbert and Biegel could really surprise the group this year and I can also see substantial use of 4 man DLs this year under Pettine.

And I can see him moving Clay and even Perry around the front seven depending on the opponent. Pettine does that a lot.

After arriving in GB, Pettine was asked "will you play more 3-4 or 4-3?"

He said "yes".

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4thand1's picture

May 29, 2018 at 11:07 am

Pettine met with CM right away I believe. I think he will light a fire under Clay's ass and have him take more of a leadership role. Father time is not on CM's side so the next 2 years are important. It is time.

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Bure9620's picture

May 29, 2018 at 11:55 am

He only has one yeat on his deal, he better ball

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Tom Greeley's picture

May 29, 2018 at 03:12 pm

I only read about 20 comments and found that about 90% wrote how I feel. I figure the author must have got his feelings hurt ny Matthews at some point. This writer needs to have someone teach him to toughen up and not let feelings direct what he writes.

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Lambeau_West's picture

May 29, 2018 at 05:49 pm

Maybe Cory just isn't a homer like most of us.

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Tom Greeley's picture

May 29, 2018 at 03:14 pm

I only read about 20 comments and found that about 90% wrote how I feel. I figure the author must have got his feelings hurt ny Matthews at some point. This writer needs to have someone teach him to toughen up and not let feelings direct what he writes.

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Lphill's picture

May 29, 2018 at 04:19 pm

The Packers defense is better with Clay on the field , use him on passing downs keep his legs fresh move him around. That is the formula and I think Pettine knows it.

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marpag1's picture

May 29, 2018 at 04:48 pm

I don't have a problem with what Matthews said because I don't have a problem with truth.

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Lambeau_West's picture

May 29, 2018 at 05:47 pm

Like most aging stars, Clay went from elite to average to slightly above average. I have no idea if he was double teamed more than anyone else but would have expected more pressures with the D-line they have. I will give Clay credit for being willing to play ILB when the team needed him there. He wasn't happy about it but he played good soldier.

I think it has to be human nature when a guy has as many hamstring pulls as Clay that you're going to dial it back 5 or 10% and that's the difference between elite and average to slightly above average.

I will also reserve judgement to see how he does in the new D scheme. If things are not much different, hopefully all of you in the CMIII fan club can be honest and say its time is time to look in the mirror. I do agree Capers D was stale to some degree but great players can still find ways to be impactful.

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Lare's picture

May 29, 2018 at 06:13 pm

Matthews is pretty much a one-trick-pony as a pass rusher from OLB, he tries to use his speed to beat the OT around the outside. Sometimes that works if the QB has to hold onto the ball, other times it doesn't if the QB steps up into the pocket. Moving Matthews to ILB actually did him a favor as he's allowed to use his speed in stunts from multiple positions.

I agree that it's best to wait and see how Pettine uses the players he's given to work with. Matthews may also want to do the same before complaining to the media.

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Packmaniac's picture

May 29, 2018 at 06:18 pm

Just get off the field on 3rd down. Please. Packers have been terrivle at that, and when you’re at the bottom of league in a such a crucial category, the reasons extend from coaching all the way down the depth chart.

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KamThomps's picture

May 30, 2018 at 01:05 am

He does not simply need to look in the mirror, he needs to cut that hair. He is still in the mindset that he is a young warrior, even though he lacks the speed and strength of his youthful playing days. What he brings to the field now is experience and maturity, and his appearance ought to reflect that. It sounds silly but I am quite serious. His thinking would alter along with his appearance and he could still be a playmaker.

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OldTimer's picture

May 30, 2018 at 08:44 am

Clay isn't the player he used to be, but he is still a better player than a lot of outside linebackers will ever be. No, he probably shouldn't be making top dollar anymore, but contracts aren't often written with crystal clear projection and realism. We still need him, so we can't really do anything about it. I don't have a problem with how he is playing right now. Holding back a little at times is what has kept him available when we need him. I hope he has a great year, and we can hold onto him for a couple of more years at a realistic salary point. A savory veteran player who helps other grow while still contributing is what we have been trying to find more of.

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