Cory's Corner: Give The Packers Their Respect

The Packers have won 13 championships. Why is this debate still happening in NFL circles?

  

I do not consider Reddit boards required reading and in fact, this is the first time I’ve stopped there in years. 

But this caught my eye.

I’ve thought about this before. When you think about the tapestry of American sports, the names that come to mind are the Yankees, Lakers, Celtics, Cowboys, Steelers and Packers. 

But why are the rules different for the non NFL teams? The AFL and the NFL merged on June 8, 1966 but that doesn’t mean the 1962 Packers that went 13-1 and racked up 415 points didn’t count? Come on. 

The reason the Packers are the Packers is because of that illustrious history. The entire franchise is a breathing fairytale written by Curly Lambeau and Vince Lombardi. The Packers have won an NFL best 13 championships, dating back to the first one in 1929, which led to a three-peat. 

Just because that 1929 season saw an NFL with only 12 teams — which included the lousy Dayton Triangles — doesn’t mean the championship didn’t count. The Packers finished on top at the end of the season and deserved to be recognized for it. 

I get that people aren’t as enamored with history nowadays, but that doesn’t mean that it’s Super Bowls or bust for measuring a franchise’s worth. The reason the Green Bay Packers have the nickname “Titletown” is because they own the NFL record. The Packers have simply done it more than anybody else. 

The easy argument is that the game was different back then. That’s fair, but the game is also different than it was just 20 years ago. Defenses were allowed to actually play defense with quarterbacks actually absorbing hits. And offenses weren’t just a cacophony of passing fancy instead of actually running the football as a focal part of the offense. 

The league has always gone through plenty of changes and makeovers. I can remember when point after touchdowns were automatic before they became 33-yard nightmares for kickers. Or when pass interference was rarely called and now it’s called a lot more than it should be, bailing out mediocre offenses for an incomplete pass. 

The NFL constantly evolves. And that’s a good thing. I’m still not sold on Thursday Night Football, but alas, that isn’t going anywhere and I also don’t like putting a playoff game behind a paywall. 

Just think of the NFL in 15 or 25 years. What will it look like? Will kickoffs be extinct? And what about the constant collision between defensive and offensive lines? Will that be altered too? If those things are edited out of the rulebook, will someone put asterisks on Super Bowls won when the rules were a certain way? 

Of course they won’t. Just thinking about it sounds silly. Just about as silly as ignoring all of the championships the Packers have won before the Super Bowl became a part of the American lexicon. 

The Packers are the winningest team in the NFL and that should be brought up every postseason. The fact that it doesn’t is both negligent and sad. 

 

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Cory Jennerjohn is a graduate from UW-Oshkosh and has been in sports media for over 15 years. He was a co-host on "Clubhouse Live" and has also done various radio and TV work as well. He has written for newspapers, magazines and websites. He currently is a columnist for CHTV and also does various podcasts. He recently earned his Masters degree from the University of Iowa. He can be found on Twitter: @Coryjennerjohn

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stockholder's picture

May 23, 2023 at 07:04 am

I'm Not sure the NFL revolving is a Good thing.
With games over seas now.
I think they're pushing towards a World football league.
And isn't soccer enough?
Sure it's a small world.
But do they need the money that bad?
Or will the money wreck it.
After all; how many NFL teams moved to
new cities for the revenue.

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crayzpackfan's picture

May 23, 2023 at 01:27 pm

This is by far the best poem you have ever written.

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croatpackfan's picture

May 23, 2023 at 07:30 am

You are right Cory. Those who are forgeting history are damned to repeat it (in the negative way).

Even if Packers were not 13 times champions, they are the oldest franchize in fooball history (at least organized organization!) never relocated from their home town and the example how organization can be succesful without one private owner. That 2 unique features should be pointed out very often to show others that it can be done. It is just the matter of the vision of clever and unselfish person(s).

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T7Steve's picture

May 23, 2023 at 07:54 am

The only way to shut them up and give them what they want is to just go out and win some more titles.

I'm can live with that. I'm sure the Bears fans and the rest of the North will be pulling for us too. HA!

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TheVOR's picture

May 23, 2023 at 07:56 am

Sorry, but respect is earned, every year. You can respect history in the franchise, for being historically great, but respect can’t continue unless continued results are achieved . They will have my respect when they perform and win the NFC North this year. They need to compete well, and if they do, they will have earned my respect.

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jont's picture

May 23, 2023 at 03:43 pm

The Packers are my team whether they win or not.

If I stand with them in good times, I should stand by in lean times just as steadily, and I'd like to think most fans feel that way about their teams. If not, they should. If you don't feel this way, why even care who wins?

As for respect, frankly speaking, it's more about my love for the game than it is about who this year's good teams are. Da Bears suck, true, but Halas, Butkus, Payton, Sayers, and 100 years is more than worthy of respect.

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Since'61's picture

May 23, 2023 at 08:19 am

Cory - speaking about history doesn’t increase ratings and it doesn’t make any money for the networks, web sites, and other media venues.

The Patriots won 6 SBs over 18 seasons but you never hear anyone compare that with the fact that Curly Lambeau and the Packers won 6 NFL championships in 15 seasons between 1929 and 1944. No one compares the Pats with the Lombardi Packers who won 5 NFL championships in 7 seasons including the first 2 SBs.
Those comparisons would diminish the current era heroes and mitigate the false narratives shoved at fans everyday by the talking airheads on the networks.
The stories of the past teams would not support the narrative that the game is all about the QBs rather than a team game.

Even here at CHTV the passing of Jim Brown has gone unmentioned. Jim Brown is arguably the greatest player in the history of the league. He played for nine seasons and led the NFL in rushing 8 of the 9 seasons he played. Only the Packers Jim Taylor interrupted Brown’s streak in 1962 when Taylor won the league rushing title. For the first 4 seasons of Brown’s career the league played a 12 game schedule. Yet Brown rushed for over 1000+ yards in 3 of those seasons. He won 3 MVP awards during his 9 year career. He combined bruising power with breakaway speed. And after all these years Jim Brown remains the only RB in league history who has an average of 100 yards rushing per game.

Jim Brown, Johnny Unitas and the Lombardi Packers brought the NFL into the modern era and are 3 of the foundational pieces of the league that we know today.

I fully realize that CHTV is devoted to Packers football, as it should be, but ignoring the passing of probably the greatest player ever is just proof of media venues ignoring the league’s history including the great history and tradition of the Packers. Thanks, Since ‘61

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T7Steve's picture

May 23, 2023 at 08:42 am

Thanks Since '61. There were some comments the other day that you must have missed.

You can't appreciate the Packers' history without looking at the greats of the game and who they played.

I even admired Walter Payton and felt sorry for him being on the Bears, till they finally won a championship for him. Gale Sayers too.

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Since'61's picture

May 23, 2023 at 09:27 am

T7Steve, yes unfortunately I did not see comments from other bloggers about the great Jim Brown. However, I was disappointed that none of our contributors mentioned his passing. Unless I missed that somehow.

In any case I appreciate your taking the time to let me know there were comments about Browns passing.
Thanks, Since '61

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T7Steve's picture

May 23, 2023 at 09:37 am

I didn't remember the Packers were the only team he didn't dominate. Read today (II) they were 3-0 including the '65 championship.

Did they only play 3 times because they were AFL? I thought the original Browns and Paul Brown were around since the beginning of the NFL?

I suppose it might be that they switched at the merger like Pittsburg did when JB was playing for them.

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Since'61's picture

May 23, 2023 at 12:41 pm

T7 the Browns joined the NFL along with the 49ers in 1950 after the collapse of the AAFC (ALL American football Conference). The AFL which you refer to did not begin until 1960. By then the Browns were part of the NFL.

When the Browns joined the NFL in 1950 they became part of the NFL's Eastern Conference. The Packers were in the NFL's Western Conference. In those days each conference had 6 teams forming the then 12 team league. Each team played its conference opponents 2 times for 10 games and they played 2 other teams from the other conference. I am not sure how the non-conference opponents were chosen in this days.

The Lombardi Packers did dominate the Browns including the 1965 NFL championship game when the Packers held Jim Brown to only 50 yards rushing on the muddy field at Lambeau. However the field conditions did not hamper the Packers Hornung and Taylor who combined for 201 yards rushing on 45 attempts. Hornung scored the decisive TD in the 3rd quarter on a 13 yard run. Starr was 10 out of 18 pass attempts for 147 yards including a 47 yard TD strike to Carroll Dale in the 1st quarter.

That great Lombardi defense held the Browns to 8 first downs and 161 total yards including the aforementioned 50 rushing yards by Jim Brown. The Browns were held scoreless in the second half and the Packers won the NFL title 23-12 for what would prove to be the first of their 3 consecutive NFL championships.
As was the case with the Lombardi championship teams the defense dominated the game.

After the game Jim Brown said, "They really killed us." That pretty much sums up that game. Thanks, Since '61

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T7Steve's picture

May 23, 2023 at 01:07 pm

Thanks, Since '61. I thought they were there longer than the AFL and couldn't figure why only three times played. Then I realized it was just three games against Jim Brown not the whole record against the Cleavland Browns.

Early 60s is kind of vague for me, as I was born in '59. Have no problems (other than old age) with the later 60s.

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May 23, 2023 at 03:36 pm

Great comments Since'61.

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Since'61's picture

May 23, 2023 at 08:46 pm

Thanks Hawkpacker.

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May 23, 2023 at 06:37 pm

Spot on 61. Nobody running the ball scared people like Jim Brown.

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Since'61's picture

May 23, 2023 at 08:45 pm

Gale Sayers also scared people.. He didn't have Brown's power but he could score from anywhere on the field. His OL was terrible and he still ran for 1000 yards per season. Thanks, Since '61

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Tundraboy's picture

May 23, 2023 at 10:38 pm

Oh yes Sayers was nearly impossible to stop, the most elusive player, but watching Brown made me feel sorry for anybody who got in his way.

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Since'61's picture

May 24, 2023 at 08:06 am

As Dave Robinson said when asked about playing defense back in the '60s, "We didn't play no mamba-pamby football." How correct he was. Thanks, Since '61

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May 24, 2023 at 09:01 am

And as an aside.. Jim Brown never had a 100 yard rushing game against Lombardi’s Packers.

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LeotisHarris's picture

May 23, 2023 at 08:30 am

You see and hear the same disrespect for other great franchises. I think it was JJ Redick who claimed the Celtics domination was due to the quality of opponents; Russell, Cousy et al weren't playing against professional athletes, they were playing against "plumbers and electricians." Talking heads must have a hot controversial hot take or the sports world will grind to a halt (he writes as he comments on Cory's hot take).

An NFL broadcast is more reality TV now than it is a focus on a football game. The way games are produced makes the glimpses of the action on the field secondary to the narrative the network wants to sell. It's getting more and more difficult to enjoy watching football, or any major sports on TV. If the announcers don't get ya, then the crowd shots and close-ups of the coaches will. Heading outside to yell at a cloud now.

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Leatherhead's picture

May 23, 2023 at 09:09 am

Disrespect? I read stuff here all the time from alledged fans. Cowards, usurpers, incompetents, clowns, etc etc.

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T7Steve's picture

May 23, 2023 at 09:20 am

What'd you call me??? Good one LH.

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Since'61's picture

May 23, 2023 at 09:37 am

Agree Leotis. The media has turned everything into a 3 ring circus. It's reaching the point of becoming unwatchable. The only thing that saves me is turning off the sound during the games. Even then I find myself unable to wait for the game to end. Getting tougher and tougher to hang in there. Thanks, Since '61

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May 23, 2023 at 01:44 pm

61
Wait a few more years when ALL games with be streamed and the football fields will be littered with digital advertising like the 1st down yellow line overlay. Uniforms will have cooperate logos on them. The football from week to week will have a new sponsor on them. Football will be the Google of sports. So turning off the sound will not help your attempt to just enjoy the game.

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Since'61's picture

May 23, 2023 at 08:47 pm

crazypackfan I'm aware and I'm not looking forward to it. Thanks, Since '61

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Ferrari-Driver's picture

May 23, 2023 at 05:52 pm

I do watch the Packers games with the sound off. I know all the Packers players and before the game, download the opponents roster. Like most all the Cheesehead TV fans here, I know the plays and can recognize a bad play, good play, and the once in a while outstanding play. I simply got tired of listening to the discussions unrelated to the game and hearing a six yard run off guard as being a "Great" play. I create my own excitement and after a "Great" Packers play will, on occasion, leap up and high five the 8 foot ceiling in my den.

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Since'61's picture

May 23, 2023 at 08:33 pm

Sounds like we are of similar minds Ferrari-Driver. Thanks, Since '61

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greengold's picture

May 23, 2023 at 08:41 am

This is proof that we're all in on this. It's called, "stalling."

That magical period after all the draft hoopla, then the UDFA attempts at hoopla, then... Rookie Minicamps, followed by, "WOW! That dude is big!"

Well, no fucking shit. He's a football player.

LOL

We're all doing our best to make it through to talk about... PRACTICE... PRACTICE???

PRACTICE?!!!

(Might as well share this... Little sports freak nephew goes to Florida with his sister, his Mom, to visit his Grandma. Aunts, girl cousins fly down, to do whatever it is they had planned. 2 weeks later, I ask my nephew, "Um... so, what did you do for a whole week with all those girls?"

His reply?

"I stalled.")

We can talk about the Green Bay Packers history. It's literally the standard bearer, and stands up to any scrutiny.

All I know is we have more history to make, and that means right now. We're in the middle of the construction of a new era of success in Green Bay, with quite possibly a better QB than the last two HOF QBs that carried this team through 30 years of winning football.

It's remarkable when you think about it. All the proving is yet to be done, but, we'll see, won't we? Thus far, I do like our chances to bring another Lombardi Trophy or two home, where they belong, with the team that is being assembled today.

Soon, my friends, we will be back to seeing winning football in Green Bay. Very soon.

Enjoy this. Stall, as best you can till we're hanging on that fence, watching... um, PRACTICE. Just another step closer to the start of the 2023 season.

Thanks to everyone here for making this stretch of nothingness way easier to bear. Cheers!

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T7Steve's picture

May 23, 2023 at 09:46 am

Love could be a great QB.

I would love to have a team where it won't matter if he's great or not. A complete football team. Like Bart's teams.

That will require great coaching.

Wouldn't it be nice to add another great Coach to the list we have now.

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greengold's picture

May 23, 2023 at 11:09 pm

I’m not giving up on LaFleur. He walked into an incredibly adverse & difficult situation with his QB1, pretty much unlike any other HCs in their first gigs.

The insubordination and malcontentedness was off the charts.

I found that very unfortunate for everyone on the team, especially MLF who had already assumed enough pressure. We now, hopefully, may see a better coached team overall, with players willfully responding.

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TarynsEyes's picture

May 23, 2023 at 10:55 am

Practice, you want to talk about practice.

That was the beginning of practice becoming an inconvenience for players and an excuse for fans to deny what their not getting from them, It's only practice, it doesn't mean anything.

History isn't a must learn anymore, but rather the footnote at the bottom of the page that nobody reads, less look for.

This article by Cory screams about the lack of respect offered to the Packers for their 13 Titles, which claims to being the GOAT, while Tom Bray as a QB has won more SB's and still isn't deemed the GOAT, less appearing in only three Championship games (10) less than GB over near 100 years.

The issue for these fans, like Cory, is they dilute themselves to thinking every season they win a Division should be an automatic boast of Championships past. It isn't. It should be a reminder how long it is between Championships, and that should be the sour taste in one's mouth.

We had to endure the 30 years of no SB wins, and are now 12 years in to what could become another long drought. It need not be retorted as I will save the typing, I'm not a true Packer fan because I'm not on the Love train. Well, I was on both the Favre and Rodgers trains, and we got 2 wins out of three appearances, over their combined 30 years of playing time. That places a damper on expectations, unless an SB win comes quick, as like the two previous, and another 12 year drought begins, or this drought simply lingers on for another 20.

History is no more a thing, when the young adults of today don't even care about their future. Not knowing where you're going is much more important today than knowing where you've been.

When you win, make all the boast you want for the time allotted, which isn't long because your part of history quicker and forgotten sooner.

I'm now at an age where the past is just a personal thing, and the present and future is trying, or have already, erased me, and much of my ilk from their minds.

Since '61 was right about Jim Browns passing. It garnered a 10-second spot because the present simply doesn't give a crap about the past.

Stop crying about the past, and it's deserved respect, it might keep you from being part of it sooner in this, We don't care what you were, what are you giving me today World.

Cynical, possibly, and deniable, but nonetheless a bitter truth.

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Since'61's picture

May 23, 2023 at 07:42 pm

Great post Taryn. Murphy's legacy in Green Bay will be the Titletown district. A moniker which was created when the Packers were regularly winning NFL championships through the Lombardi era. But over the last 55 years since the Packers won SB2 they have won only 2 more championships bringing their total to 13.

The moniker may no longer be appropriate based upon the last 55 seasons but creating a "Titletown" District makes it seem so whether earned or not in the current "I want it now, it's already too late" culture. As you correctly point out in your post it could be a long time before the Packers add more SBs to their current total. How sustainable is the Titletown district as the football team, once the substance behind the moniker "Titletown", becomes more of a hobby or part of a destination rather than the focus of the Green Bay organization?

We've had division titles, now in addition we'll have the Titletown District and a big slide. Plus the circus, I mean the NFL Draft, is coming to Titletown with Goodell as the ring leader. Seems like an appropriate retirement send off for Murphy. Thanks, Since '61

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HarryHodag's picture

May 23, 2023 at 11:01 am

Comparable. That's the key word to remember about the NFL and Green Bay's titles.

The level of play in the 1920's and '30 resulted in Packers victories and titles. Yes, there were fewer teams but the teams had a comparable level of talent across the league. To give the modern, yet ill-informed youth the background, that is what is so remarkable about the Packers titles. There were teams in Chicago and New York, mega-cities even then. Yet little ol' Green Bay whupped 'em to win. They were able to play the game better than the big shots.

One way to look at the NFL's history is to say the game grows and changes about every 10 years. The players get bigger and faster. New innovations come about in NFL offenses and defenses. I remember the shock when the Packers faced the Oakland Raiders for the second Super Bowl and Oakland had a 300 pound defensive tackle! Jerry Kramer cleaned his clock but it shows how things have changed. But that doesn't invalidate anything the Packers have achieved just because the players aren't what we see now. The talent was comparable and the Packers won.

I consider the 1970's as the greatest era of NFL football. This is where the modern game evolved from and at the time there was a large number of really good teams. The Packers weren't one of them but you had some great teams battling it out.

The Packers deserve every title they earned. They've beaten back the big shots(like the Bears) and have established Green Bay as a foundation of NFL football. Green Bay is just another American city without the Packers. But with the Packers, it's a jewel and the name 'Titletown' is richly deserved. Those who don't think so are wrong, period.

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Coldworld's picture

May 23, 2023 at 11:55 am

Thus league and its media chatter isn’t really aimed at diehard fans. It hasn’t been for a long time. It’s aimed at the casual viewers who don’t know and don’t care who was who and what was what. They don’t go to games often if at all. TV is their lens. If you want further confirmation, just look at the vote to flex Thursday games. Only 8 teams cared enough to vote no. History is useful to it only as a curiosity.

True fans know. Most of the audience doesn’t care about past players and many don’t know their names or who they played for. That’s why I don’t watch or listen to most of it, and National analysis is so vapid.

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crayzpackfan's picture

May 23, 2023 at 01:58 pm

CW
Very, very true. It's all about fantasy leagues, gambling, and individual stars that the "media" decides will move the needle in the ratings and "advertising war".

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Swisch's picture

May 23, 2023 at 12:02 pm

Not only are the Green Bay Packers of the Lombardi Era the winningest team in the history of the NFL, they are the greatest team in all of professional sports in their contribution to the history of America -- with a relevancy oh so timely to our day.
On the field, the Packers won an astounding five championships in seven seasons (1961-1967), the final three of those in a row, accomplishments unmatched in the NFL before or since -- yet the team was so much more than its record.
Vince Lombardi as head coach demonstrated that true genius is a matter not only of the mind, but of the heart, in assembling a group of individuals from scattered places, miscellaneous temperaments, and diverse backgrounds -- and forging them into an unforgettable corps of sacrifice and solidarity and excellence.
In the midst of the Civil Rights Movement of racial equality, Lombardi was a societal pioneer in affirming that a man is a man regardless of color. If he had the talent and the character, he was a welcome addition to the Green and Gold.
In all of the toughness personified by Lombardi and demanded by him, he went so far as to describe the team dynamic of the Packers with the word "love."
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All of this contributed to the making of the Packers as truly "America's Team," as they captured the imagination and the loyalty of fans all across the country, an attraction still enduring.
Just as pro football was rising in popularity above all other spectator sports nationally, the Packers from the remote outpost of Green Bay -- to be hailed at "Titletown" -- were to emerge as an emblem of American effort and honor in shared triumph.
Their enduring importance is to show an inspiring example of what the common people of America can achieve in union with each other, in the combination of individual expression and community spirit.
We do well to remember all of these players and coaches -- and especially to cherish the few who remain with us -- as reminders of the basic goodness of the American people then and now.
In a troubled time of manufactured divisions based on grossly distorted history, we need to acknowledge our flaws and faults, yes, but in the context of seeing how incredibly far we have truly come in affirming human equality and human rights.
America is truly a great nation, unique as a beacon of freedom to all the world, with the most welcoming and generous people of all the nations in all of history; but it will continue to shine in light and warmth only if we follow the best of our ancestors in faith and family and freedom.
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The wonder of Lombardi is his ability to instill a vision of greatness in his players by relating football to all of the challenges of life -- which can inspire us in the hard endeavor of restoring America to the best of its past and the fullness of its potential.
By the way, though not inconsequentially, the example of those 1960s Packers is also the key to bringing more titles to Green Bay in the here and now, perhaps even in time for its momentous hosting of the 2025 NFL Draft.

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T7Steve's picture

May 23, 2023 at 01:20 pm

Wow Swisch! Good job!

You and Since '61 (among others) have really made me proud to be here at CHTV today.

Everyone being better for your posts, is a very American thing too.

I know I don't deserve it and will try harder to live up to you guys for Packer Nation.

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Swisch's picture

May 23, 2023 at 07:07 pm

All of us our flawed and faulty, most of us falling well short of our ideals, but the message of Lombardi seems to be to never give up in fighting the good fight.
We don't have to pretend we're perfect, or that our nation is perfect.
We don't have to listen to elitists who puff themselves up as superior, but relentlessly put down ourselves, and our dear ancestors, as deplorables.
We don't have to give way to the discouragement that tells us to quit trying, that we'll never be good enough.
The greatness of America has been in its perseverance to virtue and victory.
Somehow, people from all over the world want to come here to share in our wonderful achievement.
If we keep pulling ourselves off the ground, battered, even embarrassed, but strive again and again, with the help of God, to pursue excellence -- we will eventually attain triumph.
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P.S. Thanks very much, T7Steve, for your words of encouragement, which mean a lot.

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pantz_bURp's picture

May 23, 2023 at 08:45 pm

Thank you Swisch! I said it before, but I like your writing style. Kinda like a Norman Rockwell painting where the theme is the Packers and heart and perseverance and simplicity and pride and all out effort and joy!

Hope all is well on your end. Take care and I am so thrilled to be on this journey the Packers are currently on.

With the 32nd pick in the 2025 NFL Draft, Leroy Butler will perform the Lambeau Leap inside Lambeau Field first (fingers crossed) and then name the Packer's selection...

Then, let's have another gem read the Packer's last selection with none other than Bob Uecker. He is a delight indeed. Not football related, but come on...

WE GOT THIS!

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Swisch's picture

May 23, 2023 at 09:57 pm

Thanks much, beautiful_mystery for your kind words, your enthusiasm, and your truly good suggestions for draft day fun.
I'm sure there are some fans who would love to be selected to "catch" Butler leaping into the stands, although I wouldn't begrudge Butler some kind of a step up in his mid-50s.
Uecker could sit way up in the faraway seats of Lambeau Field somewhere, in a nod to his famous TV commercial, although I wouldn't begrudge him an upgrade to a skybox as he turns 90 in 2025.
There's a lot to be said for picking last in the draft if it means a 14th championship for Titletown.

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bottlefliper's picture

May 25, 2023 at 07:22 am

You nailed it and Lobardi was a hero in more ways than one. Thats what the word Packers People really is all about. And America as well.

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PatrickGB's picture

May 23, 2023 at 03:28 pm

I absolutely love the history but I continue to watch for all the current games.

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TxFred's picture

May 23, 2023 at 08:42 pm

Do teams have blocking & tackling drills? A blocking sled? This entertainment crap is sickening.

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BA4Packers's picture

May 23, 2023 at 09:56 pm

The Pack were competing against and beating big city teams. The 12 team league represented the best there was at that time. The era they won championships really doesn’t matter because it’s all relative. They beat the best at that time.

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Swisch's picture

May 23, 2023 at 10:10 pm

I wonder how today's players would stand up to the then-legal assaults by the likes of Dick Butkus, Deacon Jones, and Night Train Lane -- if they were able to stand up after one of their tackles at all.

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TarynsEyes's picture

May 23, 2023 at 11:32 pm

I think you'd be very surprised, and likely not like the results. Personally, I wouldn't want today's players to be allowed the game legalities of yesteryear, and those players wouldn't either.

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SinceLombardi's picture

May 24, 2023 at 08:51 am

Excellent points. I agree on all. You did neglect to mention the records achieved in a shorter season. As far as I’m concerned Paul Hornung’s scoring record still stands.

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