Cory's Corner: Jayden Reed Is A Perfect Fit

In today's NFL, speed is what every NFL team covets and it's also the one thing most teams cannot get right. 

Speed is the answer in this new NFL that has allowed offensive players the room to operate in space. 

Just look at guys like Wes Welker, Julian Edelman or Randall Cobb. All those guys were highly successful because they ran circles around defenders. 

I loved the Jayden Reed pick because it is the epitome of what the NFL is right now. A versatile weapon that can be used in multiple situations and can create separation on his own even when it seems like the offense has stalled. 

“I’ve had just about every coach come up to me, on our staff, and be like, ‘Holy wow. That guy is twitchy, fast and explosive.’ He has all those traits,” said Packers wide receivers coach Jason Vrable.

Ever since the draft, I’ve read a lot of criticisms claiming that Reed was overdrafted due to his low Relative Athletic Score, something that I’ve never liked. You cannot pin the future of an NFL player on an athletic number. 

How do you put a number on being a trusty weapon on third-and-6? 

And Reed’s production at Michigan State was interesting. He had 21 receptions of 15 yards or more last year, 39 in 2021 and 30 in 2018. It’s clear why the Packers picked him — they see the home run power packed into the 6-foot, 190-pound frame. 

“It’s kind of similar to college, but I’m primarily in the slot now, so it’s different,” said Reed. “I like working in space, and I’ll fit in the NFL playing in the slot but also rotating outside.”

Aside from a quarterback, what do NFL teams want on offense? It’s a guy that can do anything at any time. The Packers have that with Reed. I’m thinking jet sweeps, quick hitches, drag routes and even reverses. The Packers know they have arguably the best 1-2 punch of running backs in the league, but what about the passing game?

That’s where Reed comes in. He will be a coverage nightmare and he will be perfect. Just when the run game is stalled, just when Christian Watson, Romeo Doubs or the tight ends cannot move the ball, there’s Reed catching a 4-yard curl pass and turning it into a 50-yard touchdown. 

That’s why the Packers drafted Reed in the second round — they knew that they needed the vaunted speed weapon. And it’s perfect right now because Matt LaFleur knows he’s going to be used exactly the way he wants him to be used. 

So you can be unsure of what Reed brings, but be happy for his speedy versatility. He is going to lift this entire offense up and he’s going to do it by being compared to Aaron Rodgers’ security blanket. 

 

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Cory Jennerjohn is a graduate from UW-Oshkosh and has been in sports media for over 15 years. He was a co-host on "Clubhouse Live" and has also done various radio and TV work as well. He has written for newspapers, magazines and websites. He currently is a columnist for CHTV and also does various podcasts. He recently earned his Masters degree from the University of Iowa. He can be found on Twitter: @Coryjennerjohn

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Coldworld's picture

July 11, 2023 at 06:53 am

If the Packers are right that they have him reliably running a 4.37 second 40 as opposed to the 4.45 time used in the RAS, then it’s possible that Reed is seen as a home run threat and is a player other teams missed a trick on potentially. Let’s hope so.

To me, he seems to have the ability to move fast in short spaces-to gain separation through quick feet. He’s got good body control. Once open, he’s got some elusiveness after the catch, which would make him interesting if he really does have 4.37 speed. He didn’t do much in open OTAs.

Let’s see if that changes once camp gets going. It’s going to be fun competition for receivers behind Watson and Doubs, not only for preference but in terms of how they are used and where they stand out. I’m looking forward to see what Toure can do given opportunities, but also seeing which of Reed, Melton, Cotton can really show speed in pads and make it count and whether Wicks can show the value of his phenomenal short area burst.

Who can get open and catch consistently. Who can make plays afterwards. Who will force us to notice them? There is a lot of speed and agility on this 90. Let’s hope some can put it all together together early.

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fthisJack's picture

July 11, 2023 at 07:20 am

3.7?? you mean 4.37?

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TKWorldWide's picture

July 11, 2023 at 07:26 am

I’m quite certain that IS what he means. I have high hopes for Reed, but I think a little patience is required too.

As to the 40 times, one important distinction is HOW the times were taken: electronically or by hand? Electric times are slower but more accurate. The ol’ ball coach with his thumb on the stopwatch can be wildly variable. Regardless, fast is fast and Reed will get his chances!

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Coldworld's picture

July 11, 2023 at 07:43 am

Yes. I plead insufficiency of caffeine when posting. I will correct it.

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baldski's picture

July 11, 2023 at 03:18 pm

I remember Jerry Rice when asked about why his 40 time was slow. He replied that he did not have anyone chasing him at the time.

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NickPerry's picture

July 11, 2023 at 07:40 am

"If the Packers are right that they have him reliably running a 3.7 second 40 as opposed to the 4.45 time used in the RAS, then it’s possible that Reed is seen as a home run threat and is a player other teams missed a trick on potentially."

Huh?

What am I missing here? A 3.7 40? 3.7? A 40 UNDER 4 seconds?

What? Who? When?

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mnbadger's picture

July 12, 2023 at 12:37 pm

this kid is really, really fast!
GPG!

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Handsback's picture

July 11, 2023 at 07:37 am

I know readers have some anxiety when they don't hear how a receiver is tearing up the practices. However in Reed's defense what we have heard is how quick and twitchy he is. At this point of the season that is really all we can expect. I suspect once the pads come on we will find out if he's the real thing or not. Until then, enjoy the speculation.
Just MHO

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TKWorldWide's picture

July 11, 2023 at 08:32 am

There is no need for “H” here! 😉

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dobber's picture

July 12, 2023 at 08:41 am

In this day of chasing NIL money, late transfers, and 25-year-old draft picks, scouting has become a real challenge. Plenty of traitsy guys out there who fall flat. I'm not going to be too hard on him for taking a step back from 2021 on a shitty 2022 MSU team--he still caught 55 balls last year on a team with a QB who was exposed as being pedestrian, couldn't block and couldn't run effectively in the Big Te-fourteen. He was a volume pass-catcher in college and he's shown he can be a difference-maker on that team--that gives him a chance at the NFL level. There aren't many WR who go from unproductive traitsy college player to all-pro.

How much does he want it? How hard is he willing to work to be one of the best players on the field? His scouting reports all cite his competitiveness. It might take some time, but if he's that guy, he'll flash early.

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T7Steve's picture

July 11, 2023 at 07:42 am

The Packers say that they're going to use each of these guys for particular plays so they don't all have to learn too much.

To me that means if this guy is on the field, these plays are going to be run. Sets up the telegraph system. I hope they are just throwing up smoke screens to confuse and fool other teams.

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

July 11, 2023 at 12:50 pm

That's an interesting issue. It also makes me think of how #12 wanted things to be simplified last year so the younger players knew where to be and when in any given situation. Maybe LaFleur heard that message. Having an illusion of complexity and having just plain complexity can be an issue for a young team. It reminds me of when Capers had to reduce the complexity of the defensive calls b/c the players had too much to learn to function well in his complicated system.

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Oppy's picture

July 13, 2023 at 02:27 am

Rodgers' comments- to which Matt LaFleur had "no idea" what Rodgers was talking about- were most likely referring to Rodgers' 'hand signal offense', the secondary system that over-rides the play calls and expects young players to know some 30-odd hand signals to determine routes.. hand signals that weren't formally taught, hand signals that the coaching staff didn't even know or teach. Hand signals that, according to veteran and former Packers receivers, sometimes materialized on game day as signals that Rodgers hasn't used in years.

LaFleur didn't hear that message, because the complexity wasn't a byproduct of the official offense, it was a product of Rodgers' having a secret code system he refused to directly teach young guys because he was concerned they'd learn his signals and might not be on the team later on.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

July 19, 2023 at 08:11 pm

Steve, I'm not worried about that because opposing scouts aren't in the building. The first few weeks are one thing, then add new plays every week and everybody should be good.

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mrtundra's picture

July 11, 2023 at 07:46 am

Fasty and twitchy is a good thing. Reed will also have to prove himself on STs. I hope we see Reed excel on Punt Returns as well as on offense. GO PACK, GO!!!

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NickPerry's picture

July 11, 2023 at 08:03 am

I really liked the pick, especially after watching him tear up the Badgers. But seriously, the Packers already have several "Bigger" WRs on this roster. They NEEDED a WR with some twitch and quickness to go with the others on the roster now. IMO the Packers have a really nice blend on this roster and Reed is a perfect addition to go with Watson, Doubs, Toure, the two new TEs and the other WRs drafted with Reed in this class.

I think Watson is a beast and will only get better and better, at least as long as Jordan Love is a competent QB who can give the Packers average to just above average QB play. If Doubs becomes the #2 they think he can, or even a good #3, and either Musgrave or Kraft hits, AND they added Reed to go with one of the best receiving RBs (Aaron Jones) in the NFL?

HAHA...Just look the hell out!

IMO the Packers currently have an excellent blend of receivers on this roster. It really comes down to whether or not Jordan Love can play the position. I think he can...At least until he shows he can't.

Reed was the PERFECT pick.

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

July 11, 2023 at 11:35 am

I mean, these are wonderful thoughts. But there is a total of 88 passes caught in the NFL among all the WRs coming to camp. Every other NFL team has at least one receiver with more catches than the entire GB receiving corps. So it's all just projection. No one knows how the first year guys will do against NFL defenses and NFL speed. No one knows how the promising Watson and Doubs will do now that the focus will be more directly on them. It sure looks like an excellent blend, but right now it's really all potential. I'm excited but it's tempered with the knowledge of how many previous UDFAs and draft picks don't live up to their potential or wash out completely.

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NickPerry's picture

July 12, 2023 at 05:51 am

PROJECTION is all we have at this point as Packers fans.

I will forever be an optimistic fan thinking EVERY pick the Packers make is a good pick...Until they prove it wasn't.

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mnbadger's picture

July 12, 2023 at 12:42 pm

I'm with you on this one NP. Give me all the positive spin, praise, speculation you can this time of year.
Come September, nobody's words will matter as it only boils down to that Sunday's actions.
I'd rather be happy and optimistic than down and depressed this time of year, no matter what our Brewers are hitting with runners in scoring position.
GPG!

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Packers2020's picture

July 12, 2023 at 12:12 pm

I have to be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if Toure doesn't even make the 53. He was a 7th round draft pick for a reason. I am not saying 7th rounders can't turn into something (aka, Donald Driver) but the likelihood he will even be the 3rd WR is pretty low. If he makes it, I say he will be the #4.

Just because the coaches have mentioned him changing his body over the off season doesn't mean a whole lot. He still has to have the speed, the route running ability, and can catch the ball in traffic.

We will see what happens......

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

July 19, 2023 at 08:14 pm

Depth at WR is a really good thing to have. At least 5 on the final roster and another 3 on PS, 8 total should be doable. Simore makes the top 8.

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TxFred's picture

July 11, 2023 at 09:56 am

Have said this before. MLF gets to call plays & run the he calls. He will have distribution issues. Who gets the ball? A pair of talented backs? Young TE's? Skilled & fast receivers? Trying to keep everyone involved & pumped up will be a challenge. MLF should have a good year. GPG!!!!

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ImaPayne's picture

July 11, 2023 at 10:14 am

It wont be justin jefferson or the new fast speedy guy with great hands the vikes just got. You got guys running around who arent great route runners and dont have great hands, or size.

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pack69go's picture

July 11, 2023 at 08:39 pm

Go back to to Queensville!

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Oppy's picture

July 13, 2023 at 03:20 pm

Based on Justin Jefferson's last game vs. the Packers, I sure hope not.

That guy got clowned.

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mnbadger's picture

July 12, 2023 at 12:45 pm

TxFred - MLF should have a great year in that he gets to finally be the head coach.
It would be fun to be in his shoes this year.
Not so much fun last year.
GPG!

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ImaPayne's picture

July 11, 2023 at 10:12 am

ONe concern has to be that he regressed in his last year not got better. Based on his last years performance he should have been undrafted. Thus we have no idea what version of him ends up in camp. Ananlyst were not high on this guy and quite frankly questioned the pick as they often do when Gutt picks.

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HarryHodag's picture

July 11, 2023 at 10:22 am

The 'critics' also hated Ted Thompson's drafts. Overall, he did better than ok. I think most of the 'critics' simply need to attract attention to themselves and what they say is secondary.

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13TimeChamps's picture

July 11, 2023 at 10:49 am

Fubared is a viking fan who has been trolling this site forever. If everybody just ignored him he might actually go away.

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dobber's picture

July 11, 2023 at 01:13 pm

Yup. Don't feed the troll.

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jurp's picture

July 11, 2023 at 03:10 pm

He's a Vikings fan? That explains why he's "fubared" - 'cause ALL VIkings fans are ALWAYS fubared!

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Bitternotsour's picture

July 11, 2023 at 08:44 pm

what's it like to hate the team that you profess to support.

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HarryHodag's picture

July 11, 2023 at 10:25 am

We'll see what the Packers have in two weeks when the pads go on and he has to play against the starters on defense. He's about the same size as Donald Driver, but probably faster.

One factor that the 'critics' all seem to miss is Reed played against top-level competition in college. Watson and Doubs played against lesser foes. Reed's experience against better players could be a factor.

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Coldworld's picture

July 12, 2023 at 08:21 am

We have not seen a down in pads yet. It’s really early to form any opinion beyond visible athleticism and technique in areas visible without the threat of actual contact.

Reed may well be a great pick up out of the gate or he may take time to impose himself, that’s just how it is with young players. I will form an opinion once we get more sightings in a more realistic context and he’s has more reps to settle.

Whether he’s what this article claims or not remains to be seen just as much as it did the moment he was drafted in my view. We will start to see in 3 or 4 weeks what sort of players who we’ve not seen, Reed, Melton, Wicks, Cotton and co., are at this point. It should be fun, but in my view it’s much more open as to who jumps out early, who ends up sticking and how these guys fit than many think.

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lou's picture

July 11, 2023 at 10:57 am

Time will tell, they thought they had their future Slot WR in Amari Rodgers. It takes a special player to be successful in that position and although Cobb had a lot of mileage he still had the quickness to get open and move the chains last year until the injury bug hit. When younger as proven with his kick and punt returns he also had the toughness needed so the future Slot needed both attributes. Don't rule out Toure the quickness is there and he has added some healthy weight to his frame in reference to toughness. Based on beat writers comments from MLF Toure had the better OTA and Mini Camp.

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Leatherhead's picture

July 11, 2023 at 11:54 am

The organization has a long and solid history of drafting some very good WRs on the second day of the draft. Jennings, Jones, Jordy, Cobb, Adams, Watson.....that's the company that Reed aspires to. We've had way more hits than misses on Day 2 at that position.

But I'm also aware that rookie receivers have quite a few things to overcome if they're going to catch 50 passes. First, they have to stay healthy and active. Secondly, the guys in front of them either have to get injured or they have to play poorly in order for them to get opportunities. Watson didn't catch 50. Doubs didn't catch 50. And that's only 3 passes/game, or maybe 4 targets.

IMO, the Packers best lineup is going to be Watson and Doubs at WR, Kraft at TE, and Musgrave/Reed swapping off. First, good luck finding a DB that can matchup with Reed and Musgrave, both. Secondly, Musgrave can be a TE in a double TE run set, or he can be a big slot, or he can lineup wide and be a Lazard-type on runs and short passes.

Meanwhile, Kraft gives us a 6th offensive lineman. I can't wait to see this group on the field and I think it'll be best overall grouping. It'll keep the ball in the hands of Jones/Dillon and Watson for about 2/3 of the plays, and Doubs/Musgrave/Reed for the rest. This is not a disparagement of anybody else, but I think these are the horses we should run with.

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dobber's picture

July 11, 2023 at 01:25 pm

"Jennings, Jones, Jordy, Cobb, Adams, Watson....."

Some of those were viewed as underwhelming picks at the time.

"And that's only 3 passes/game, or maybe 4 targets."

I think you hit on that very important point: there are a lot of hands and only one football.

This is a Packers team that, under LaF, seems to favor a big slot. The Packers have a slew of guys who are 6'1" and bigger, and a new, fast, big TE (Musgrave) who's already had a lot of play in the Tonyan role (he had the second most slot snaps last season behind Lazard). Maybe that's because the AmRod experiment was essentially DOA and he couldn't fill that role. Maybe it's because Randall Cobb's tank is mostly on empty and he couldn't do what he used to.

The thing I come back to is that I don't think the Packers take pass-catchers back-to-back-to-back--and especially someone like Reed for whom the reviews are mixed--unless they have a very specific plan or idea for how they see them fitting into game plans. That said, they whiffed badly on AmRod and Deguara continues to be a head scratcher. So we'll have to see where we are around week 6 to know.

IN EDIT: Tonyan was third behind Lazard and Cobb in slot snaps...I didn't find A. Jones' slot snaps.

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Leatherhead's picture

July 11, 2023 at 03:31 pm

"".... I don't think the Packers take pass-catchers back-to-back-to-back--and especially someone like Reed for whom the reviews are mixed--unless they have a very specific plan or idea for how they see them fitting into game plan""

You are correct, as usual,dobber. There is a plan.

""....This is a Packers team .... seems to favor a big slot""

We like big slots, I cannot lie. I think we'll see Musgrave there.
Kraft is our 6th offensive lineman, and that'll be his job, and he won't get targeted much.
And Reed will be used as a slot, and as a backup to Doubs or Watson.

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stockholder's picture

July 11, 2023 at 02:35 pm

No Fricking way. The guy was a bad pick.
The Athletic Score will have everything to do success.
And so does a guy that is taller and stronger than 6’ 190”.
The Reed pick wasn't a Packer pick. It was a Burn it!
There is No way to make -up the value lost.
Gutey did it again. A reach and loss of draft positioning.
Gutey never valued Punt Returners.
And the biggest mistakes of the draft are Wrs.
This guy doesn't look anything like Devante Adams,ETC.
Twitch - Try Head scratcher.

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TheLunchMachine's picture

July 11, 2023 at 04:58 pm

Tell me you don't know football without telling me you don't know football. Davante scored a 6.5 and by your logic with numbers your being hypocritical. Reed has a 6.6, which is a better score than when adams was drafted. So if he's a garbage pick you have to call adams a garbage pick too since talent apparently has nothing to do with it. Do some research

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stockholder's picture

July 11, 2023 at 05:35 pm

6’1 215
I’ve seen 7.0 but your numbers are debatable.
Reed can’t match Adams Combine/stats.
And the 4.56 was a shoe problem.

The garbage - the BPA was still on the board!

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Coldworld's picture

July 12, 2023 at 08:31 am

If he runs a 4.37, then that RAS score is essentially garbage. If he doesn’t, he looks very much like a Doubs/Toure type and may end up being the 4th in the pecking order this year. I did not like the pick particularly, but that was based upon his speed as used in the RAS at his size. Now let’s see if the scouts know their business, they seem very certain.

Andy Herman mentioned that one could see his speed immediately in OTAs, so perhaps those scouts have something. Open mind at this point. I’m going to be watching Cotton just as much as Reed. Speed kills if you can get open and catch too, regardless of how the player arrived.

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Oppy's picture

July 13, 2023 at 03:22 pm

You're a huge twat.

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marpag1's picture

July 11, 2023 at 02:57 pm

"Just look at guys like Wes Welker, Julian Edelman or Randall Cobb. All those guys were highly successful because they ran circles around defenders."

The average 40 time for a WR is 4.48. Cobb ran microscopically faster than average at 4.46. Edelman was slower than average at 4.52. Welker was a lumbering moose at 4.65. Maybe speed isn't everything that some people imagine.

Fifteen WRs ran faster than Reed at the combine. Many of them went undrafted. Reed was clocked at 4.45 ... again, marginally faster than average. And just about every player in history is going to say, "Yeah, but I was timed so much faster somewhere else."

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Leatherhead's picture

July 11, 2023 at 03:36 pm

It takes 0.2 seconds to blink. That's the difference, over 40 yards, between a guy who runs a 4.4 and a 4.6

Cobb was no blazer, and he succeeded because he was smarter than the average bear.

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Coldworld's picture

July 12, 2023 at 08:38 am

Speed is one thing. Elusiveness/agility/burst is another. Cobb had the latter, as did Adams. Cobb was essentially a runner in college too, which helped him post catch. Neither were burners. It doesn’t matter how you get separation if you can get it done. Wicks will be interesting in this context. His burst is phenomenal but his long speed is certainly not.

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dobber's picture

July 12, 2023 at 08:51 am

Smarts, reading a defense, instincts/processing speed, desire--none of that shows up on a combine test.

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croatpackfan's picture

July 12, 2023 at 01:27 am

I can understand all of you who express doubts in what can Jayden Reed do to help Packers in winning.

When you take in consideration highlights (good and bad one) and analyses made by quite a lot of football fans as well as experts, it looks like Reed fare well in their assessments. That is the first step. Second step is to adjust to speed and violence of NFL. And than to show the productivity when your number is called.

Many here talks about Reed's "regression" through final year in college. I do not think that "regression" is something to worry about. Last season in college Reed was catching the passes from new QB and had several new team mates on the offense. So, you should never assess performance just looking at one season. Also, do not forget that his numbers also depends on game plans and play calling. Maybe used Reed as decoy to open others for catching the ball and he might not had enough targets to match previous season productivity.

As DA, he might need year or 2 to adapt himself to the NFL life. Nobody knows. But his football resume tells us that he has high motivation for success. And that is the first and utmost force (behind talent only) to become successful in what he is doing. I can bet on him to achiebe success.

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