There is no guarantee Williams will even be able to play, let alone practice until mid to late season. I think Gutey has been well schooled in the danger of drafting injured players, let alone over-drafting them.

I agree to keep the picks for this draft...so deep in positions the Packers need for starters and/or quality depth.

Trade back, don't trade up.

I'd be leery of Williams just because of his injury. If you are drafting in the first three rounds, you want those players to contribute right away. Williams won't be able to do that. Same goes for a guy like Ojabo at Edge. I think a WR like Jalen Tolbert fills the bill and can match whatever they think Williams can offer. Tolbert, however, is not a Round 1 pick. The guy can block, though. Olave or Pickens in the 1st, if Gute wants WRs there, and then Tolbert or Pierce, in the second, or third. I'd still look at Safety, Edge, IDL in Round 1 right now. WRs Thornton and Ekuzanma should be available after Round 5, too. OT players, after the top tier guys go off the board early, can be had in the later rounds. I'm also leery of OT Bernard Raiman. Don't think he is a 1st round talent, at this point. Why do we need to develop a 1st round pick, as Raiman has been mocked to us, at 22, by some know it all pundits?

I think Jameson is pretty much every GM's #1 WR. Unfortunately I just do not see how Gutey could pull it off without depleting most of their high draft choices to obtain him. As much as I like Jameson I do not want to lose all those picks just to get him. I think Pickens has much of the same upside and can be had at 28. If he is really Gutey's choice I do not think you let him pass at 28 as he could go late 1st round or early 2nd round. I do not see him lasting to 53 as so many mocks/simulators show. Not happening!

Rodgers is the glue, now get new horses. No to trade ups, especially for guys with knee injuries. The "Stockholder Syndrome" is providing a clearer picture of the circle game. I'm staying with your Watson at #22 scenario and deal from there. #28 can be EDGE or OT or DT or a move into rd two with a three pick added on and a five if you set the parameters of the deal correctly. Milt Hendrickson has saved the personnel dept. from total disaster. The past two drafts were solid. Playmakers or haymakers in the lineup after 4-30-22? If he screws up this poker hand, move in a different direction. There is no steady course in a typhoon.

There's so much wrong with this, it's almost as if you don't follow the team at all. Prospect visits do not, and have never, been a predictive indicator of who the Packers will draft. They barely even spoke to Jaire before taking him. At the same time, Gute has brought in or visited with at their pro day almost every 1st-2nd round WR prospect, so your head is clearly just in the sand. But I've read you before, you love to be obstinate and obtuse when it comes to criticizing the front office. Just another bizarre post in a string of many, out of touch with reality.

When we got Rodgers he took all our money for weapons. It’s that simple no matter how often some chose to deny it.

SH,
I did not up vote or down vote. While frequently I do not agree with some of your thoughts I respect your input. You bring a different perspective and I always appreciate a different perspective from mine, and from other posters. At the end of the day you are a fellow staunch Packer fan!

There are many ways to build a team for success and the Packers have had 'bullet's for Rodgers and he has failed to capitalize year after year. Anyone saying Adam's, MVS, Tonyan, Jones & Dillon are not top talent than they lack reality and perspective. They had all this talent the past two years and just didn't get it done....it wasn't even close to getting it done!

I believe the Front Office recognizes this, but to expect rookie WR's are going to be able to come in and replace Adam's and MVS production and get them to the SB is somewhat absurd. Do not care how talented the WR's are. Just not going to be able to replace Adam's and MVS this year and their production. The growth has to come from somewhere else. You do the same thing over and over and expect different results is kind of foolish. Build the team that can keep opponents ability to score minimized consistently and the Packers will be better off. Add some WR talent here and there throughout the draft that compliments a very good running game, and TE game with Tonyan and the team will be very competitive. Allow those talented rookie WR's to grow and expand their roles throughout the season leading to a hopeful playoff contention.

All this talk about providing Rodger's WR talent makes one wonder if so important to him why doesn't he just take some leadership and initiative and come to camp and work diligently with the top couple of drafted WR's to make sure they are in lock step with him. Make them stay next to him throughout the pre-season, training camp, etc! That they earn his trust because Rodgers ensured they earned his trust by knowing the plays and where they are to be inside and out! We all know regardless of talent at WR he will pull this BS trust stuff and they likely won't get many targets regardless of how talented they are.

It not if it is when just look at 2020 draft he should be gone

the shortseller stays funny........"the great gun" who was never so great when it counts even with more bullets then any other top QB. so its Gutes fault that 20% of the SC plays like 5%. Hahaha this twisted neandertaler logic is really orange. noting is dumb enought anymore in America.
Hope you fell good on flate earth in your parallel world, must be fun....

I agree with your first 4 picks...but would not be unhappy if one of those picks was ILB or DT or one of the top S like Hill, Pitre, etc.

I agree that trading down vs. up is the preferred option. I would love to see him pick up another pick or two in the 2nd /3rd rounds. Experts have said the draft is weaker compared to most in the top 15-20 picks, but much stronger through the 3rd round. Additional picks could enable them to address DL, S and TE in addition to the needs identified in the above post.

Pretty much agree except I would go with a D lineman instead of O line.....we do so well in later rounds with O line...

I agree with your thoughts except On Williams, I agree about the injury concern, but I wouldn’t have any reservations because he left OSU for Bama. If your the best at Bama your very good. It would be different if he went to the PAC 12 like UCLA and performed. Bama always have the top WR talent in the collegiate ranks. IMO, without the ACL, he is the best WR talent in the draft and will show that in time, unless that ACL has taken it from him.

With his young age and the way young players haven’t lost a step from ACL’s I think he will be a winner in this draft. Of course, all players recover differently and the lighter a player is the better I suspect. WR Pickens was injured in Spring Practice for Georgia and was playing 8 months later in November. Buyer beware thou.

Now, if the Packers take two WR’s in the first 4 picks and he fell to 22 I would take him. He’s just too good of a talent to pass at that point in the draft.

Agree, Nick. You won’t see me complain about GB picking Olave. Yes, he might be over rated, but, he’s deadly as a route runner, moves the chains regularly, and scores in bunches.

We need to accept the WR offerings are all role players, but there are some really good ones, great ones in some cases, at doing what they do best. Olave is that guy. Fast, sure hands, insane separation and understanding of route adjustments. 100% a “QB’s best friend.”

Anyone thinking that won’t be heavily used by Rodgers or Love through Olave’s first contract is nuts.

Some people really like Pickens, but I don't see the Packers taking a shot at him early. Over recent years (going back as far as I can remember) the one thing that day 1-2 WR picks the Packers have taken have in common is college productivity. He's got flash, but not more than that...IMO, not a round 1 guy for GB, and where traitsy guys with limited college production have intersected with Packers draft picks in the past, he'll be long gone.

Keeping in mind, of course, that those picks largely were made by guys who didn't have the initials BG...so all with a grain of salt.

This is my FINAL Mock of the extended April Fool's Daze. One blogger mentioned the Swiss Cheese Roster. I want a plug and Replace draft:

#23 Watson WR 4.36 (22 to AZ for #23 and 201).
#31 Winfrey DT/five tech. ( #28 and 2023 5th to Bengal Tigers for # 31,83, 162)
#41 Pierce WR 4.41 (#53,83 to SEA )
#61 Lucas OT 4.91 ( #59 2023 4th comp to 49rs for 61,134)
#92 Taylor CB 4.36
#132 Gunter Edge 4.47
#134 Walker OT to OG
#140 Strong RB 4.37
#171 C-Fields CB 4.38
#174 Bellinger TE 4.63 Inline
#201 Melton WR 4.34 PR and KR
#209 Barnes CB 4.23
#226 Horvath FB
#228 Anderson S 4.36
#249 Andries OG All-Big Ten

Time for some changes. Win the Big Game. I like Gen Z.

GG,
Appreciate the effort!

Agree though so many options and directions this draft can go to improve the team with all the draft choices. Why I dread the thought of Gutey moving up depleting the # of draft selections we have. We have a lot of bullets, so let's use them!

Lastly, the amount of posters who seem fixed mainly on our 1st WR selection WR's 40 yard amazes me. All WR's dont have to be a sub 4.0. Adam's was over 4.5 and so what? Bell at 4.65 well that may be a concern but may be okay as a supporting WR. Point is while speed is nice there are a lot of quality WR's in that 4.0 to 4.55 in the 40 yard. We can select a WR later in the draft like a Thornton to take the top off the defense. Draft can't come soon enough!

I'm sure the Packers have enquired about Deebo, but the Packers aren't going to give up the capital to get Deebo, and the 9'ers aren't going to trade Deebo to the Packers so the Packers can roll them in January. (I wouldn't anyway.)

I do expect a very crazy draft. There are fewer "sure" things in this draft class than any in recent memory. If you go back and look at every draft class, there are guys in every round that just don't make NFL players. Some because of injuries, some because they're in the wrong scheme or wrong situation with the team that drafted them.

The trick in my opinion is sorting through the "trash" for those guys who won't be denied. No matter where a guy is drafted, no matter how much talent he has, he has to have that unquantifiable desire to be great. Donald Driver comes to mind. Campbell comes to mind as a guy who "fits" in our defensive scheme.

I will be very curious to see how MVS fares in KC and how DA fares in Vegas. Personally, I'm hoping they both stay healthy so they get a fair shake.

I don't think there is much chance of us getting Deebo, but I do think if Gutey's done his homework, we can come out of this draft with 4 or 5 guys who can make a big difference this season and some good depth at crucial spots.

Should be loads of fun anyway.

Don't want it.... keep our picks and draft two WR in the first four....much cheaper and still get two other high picks....

“The Packers are ON THE CLOCK! We’ll be right back…”

"the vet players brought in have been excellent"

True, very true Arthur...thanks for the reminder. I don't recall two stellar pickups the same season like Douglass and Campbell. The ROI was fantastic.

I think one impact player per year is pretty good. (A little early on Stokes, but he looks promising.)

Gute's efforts in rounds 3 to 7 have been average at best, probably below average. Newman, Runyan and Deguara could make that look better (Slaton and McDuffie and any one else who makes a jump as well).

Gute has been very good with his pro personnel moves: the 4 FAs, plus Tramon minus Graham, plus Douglas, Wagner, and Campbell, minus Kirksey.

Overall, he's done a good job.

I don’t know about that, j… what you’re saying does not jibe at all with what I’ve seen from him. He’s a gap shooter with the swim, chop, dip, leverage, length and speed to go around, as well as power bull. He’s got great pass rush and solid run stop.

6.78 3-Cone 37” vertical 380 power clean 10-1 broad 6-4 274

Spends 1 hour per day doing hand to hand combat, like me!

Never has to come off the field.

Versatile enough to play inside all day. Interior and outside pass rusher.

2021 Ted Hendricks Award Finalist with 667 snaps, 5 SACKS, 10 TFL, 14 QB HITS, 35 HURRIES, 2 FF, 2FR, 39 TACKLES, 4 PD Karlaftis is EXACTLY the kind of hustle player I love at DE/EDGE.

ELITE athlete. ELITE speed and agility with an endless motor. HE NEVER STOPS.

Rushes from 2 & 3 pt. stances, with playing speed to stand up.

Easy leverage gap shooter.

Plus quicks, change of direction.

Powerful hands with huge bag of tricks.

Super powerful upper body, with extraordinarily developed lower body strength to move linemen to either side. These are rare physical gifts at EDGE.

#18 overall Athlons Top 100 Players.

About as all around proficient as it gets - 12th in sacks, 6 th in hits, 12 th in hurries, 28th in run stops

He’s not all just power. I like him a lot.

Jht,
100% agreement! There is a place for him just not in round 1. Possibly not even round 2.

Is fun to have the Pack, Crew and Bucks playing well.

I have watched most of the Brewers games and they are winning with pitching and outstanding D. So far, their hitting has been atrocious, and that is preventing more W's.

I am sure that Rodgers would like nothing more than to be reliant on a guy honed in the fires of Northern Iowa Panther football and the Fearsome D 2 rushers and defensive schemes they faced. Throwing to a guy who ran the simplest of route trees in a run first D 2 offense and only recently passed 3 dozen targets. Twilight zone drafting for a twilight zone off season. No wonder he needed 50 million reasons to return if you are prescient.

Love your first 3 picks, but I think it will be Pickens not Watson; and I don't think Jones is going to last that long in this draft since he's so special.

Gutes decision caused Rodgers to ramp up his game winning two MVP's, which allowed GB to win 13 regular games in back to back seasons. All you have to do is research to see Rodgers was very average statistic wise for several seasons prior to the 2020 draft. The decision to draft Love vs other players highly unlikely to deliver the same success. As an added bonus....the final chapter on Love hasn't been written. One way or another he will impact the GBP's whether via his play, or trade value. I think the drafting of Love was a brilliant move.