“If you want to change the structure of your defense, you could certainly do that,” LaFleur said. “If you watched that game, there were many times throughout the course of that game where it wasn’t just single motion, it was double motion.”

Well shit coach, if you don't do SOMETHING different against elite WRs, this could become a trend. It's this type of RIGID thinking that will get you beat in this Leauge... Well, actually get your ass stomped, you know, exactly like Sunday Afternoon!

Oh, one other thing...MLF has got to give Aaron Jones more than 8 or 10 touches. I forgot the exact number, but it wasn't nearly enough. He's your best or at the minimum 2nd best offensive weapon you have. GET HIM THE BALL!!

If you want to change the structure of your defense.......

No! Why do that? Just ask the Vikings to play along with the D you choose like good sportsmen.

Actually it doesn't mater if we don't fix the O line and get better on the D line too. Was it Coldworld (not sure) that suggested keeping Caleb Jones active and using him in a Jumbo package at the goal line? line him up tight end, tackle or guard next to Nij / Lewis and see if they can't get low and get some push. I remember agreeing and we both got some thumbs down.

They better have a plan besides trying to run behind Hansen. What do they see in him that we don't? If they're right, and he's the best choice, we're in real trouble.

Pad level...

Cleaning that up...

We'll look at that...

Where is my eyebrow teaser...

No more yak yak yak. I expect to see changes where there were weaknesses, you know adapting from intelligent observation...

Offense - Hanson - outta the lineup. Newman stapled to guard or the bench, more AJones, more AJDillon, less 2 TE packages, more Tonyan on 3rd downs, more Tom, less Watkins and Cobb and more Watson and Doubs (mistakes be damned, they must learn for this team to be competitive later).

Let me just say - there have been many instances of OL playing in their rookie season and doing just fine, Meyers, Tauscher, Clifton, Sitton, Colledge, etc. tom has earned the chance to play on this OL NOW! The kid Walker looked like a legit RT in the short time he played for example. Even raw Caleb Jones was serviceable in his snaps. Get em good or get em gone. I have more patience with the young guys than I do with poor performing guys with experience.

Defense - Barry needs to put his players in positions to succeed - AS A DEFENSIVE SQUAD - not just as individuals. If he cannot figure out how to field a solid, mistake free, defensive squad given the caliber of players and their experience he needs to hit the door right now. The entire DL room needs a collective kick in the ass. Blitzing should not be a dirty word, the secondary has the talent and skill to succeed when another rusher is added to create pressure.

Wefense - nothing glaringly bad, nothing glaringly great. O'Donnell was close to blocks a couple times, perhaps some blocking reminders to the punt team guys is in order. If the gunners can do their jobs well, the blockers can remain on their man a beat longer and still get down to cover the kick, have confidence in your teammates doing their J-O-B, and you do yours.

The biggest change i want to see is mlf having a better plan and seeing the team - both offense and defense - adapt and change as the game goes along to exploit the scheme being run out there by the opposition.

Success isn't determined by how great of a plan you make, it depends upon how you adapt when your plan isn't working perfectly (which plans rarely do).

Let's get this done - It's BARE WEEK!!!!!

On a lighter note, i didn't see any of Crosby's kickoffs come close to being blocked... LOL!

This secondary is going to keep getting Torched.
Savage is No Collins. Alexander is No Charles Woodson. Stokes is No Traman Williams. And Peprah was better than Amos.
The 2010 secondary knew how to get the INTs. This secondary doesn't.
It wouldn't have mattered who Alexander was on.

The scary part for me was Barry had 2 weeks to prepare for this game and his plan was play a soft zone and no pressure on Cousins?

The key is to not over react to anything that happened in the first game. If we want to overreact then does that mean we shouldn't throw any more deep throws to Watson because he dropped what would have been a 75 yard TD?

While we can't overreact, it is a perfect time to reflect on the loss and learn from it. What they should have learned is that they need to find a better way to cover WR's better. There is absolutely no reason that Jefferson should be running wide open. There is no reason that Preston Smith should be covering a WR let alone Jefferson. They have to have a better plan, and they have to execute it better. The fundamental plan should be putting 2 players on Jefferson every play. He should be doubled every down.

They have some fundamental issues to work out for sure. But looking at it from the outside to me the biggest thing they need to clean up is the miscommunication. There were far to many miscommunication issues. Which the first game of the year is to be expected. Especially facing a new offense.

Our defense will be fine. Just need to fine tune some things.

In all fairness, To change coverages from zone to man in seconds is tough on a defense. It can lead to more problems than it solves. Campbell said that he likes Barry because he lets players be players. Campbell does not like a lot of last second calls and adjustments. Minnesota knew that. I went to their site before the game and they said that they were going to target Quay and the linebackers. They said they were going to move Jefferson around. Apparently, we ignored that possibility and/or thought that our players could overcome it.

Sorry, don’t agree with the answer by the coach. During training camp there was speculation Alexander would either play in the slot or the boundary. There are certain teams you have to adjust your structure to if you want to be effective. Everyone knows that Jefferson is elite and you can’t play soft zone against that talent. These coaches had all preseason to get ready for this first game and the philosophy on both sides of the ball was flawed. The right side of the offensive line under performed in the preseason, yet they rolled these same two players out against the Vikings. That soft zone didn’t work for the defense. The coaches should know better seeing as they see this team twice a year.

Ok - I see that people are panicking the same thing as they did last year. And the fault certainly does lie with Lafleur and perhaps AR. There is one big thing that everyone has been commenting on - and that is how sloppy everyone is because they dont play the starters until Game 1. They are correct.
I had said and we blew it again - we need to fix the red zone and we blew it. Of course if one looks like at last nights game - Denver obviously didnt have their red zone offense working either - and their special teams was not working either. Maybe just a big hole in Lafleur's organization and planning binder.

Listened to LaFleur's press conference and it didn't inspire confidence. He didn't want Jaire on Jefferson because he went into motion, sometimes double moves. Wow, double moves. And if Jaire was on Jefferson it would change the assignment for ten other men. What a load of nonsense.

We were all excited by the talent on this D but last year this same D, granted minus Jaire and Quay, gave up over 28 points per game for a long stretch in the middle of the season. Kept getting bailed out by Rasul. I continue to believe that Barry is a major liability. And LaFleur will continue to sound like McCarthy "We'll get it fixed" while doing nothing.

To me, this was a wake-up call to how bad LaFleur and Barry are in big games. This was a big game even though it was the opener. The players have to feel, deep down, that they're being handcuffed, despite what Campbell said about Barry. They just don't look like they're attacking. Ever.

The defense is soft and so is the offense. A reflection of the coaching.

The problem with the Packers isn't talent, perhaps a limited character flaw, but certainly an inability to accept that certain reactions and inaction are more detrimental to the team than doing the opposite.

We all seen the game, and we all know the issue, but the issue lies with the same two people whose mindsets are at odds with what needs to be done, but appear incapable of acknowledging their individual flaw and why this team, like others before, recently and longer, end up in the same place at every season's end.

One tore away part of the game playbook because of a dropped pass, one cannot in-game adjust by having his coordinators make adjustments to the obvious issue, less any that are deeper in the scheme contributing to the disarray witnessed.

Can one deny that there may be a battle of wills between Rodgers and MLF? Both say they want more Jones, but neither seemed to push the issue in-game where it was needed, and not in each post-game presser leaving us to ask, who is keeping it from happening.

The first week of the NFL season is always the most over reacted week in sports. If your team wins they are on their way to the SB, if they lose the sky is falling and the season is over.

Poor preparation and poor planning are the first reason for the loss to the Vikings. That's on the coaches. No excuse for being out prepared and out coached by a rookie HC and his staff.
Second reason for the loss is losing the LOS on both sides of the ball. Our OL did not play well allowing 4 sacks and 5 QB hits plus inadequate blocking for the ground game. Our DL never consistently pressured Cousins and there were too many big run plays up the gut of the defense.
Third reason is a terrible coverage plan for our secondary which allowed Jefferson to have the best day of his career.
Finally Rodgers needs to pick his team up when the team is going off the rails. He is allowed to get frustrated but he can't carry it throughout the game. His line of 22 completions out of 34 attempts is not bad but I would say that he was efficient but not effective. The one TD scoring drive in the 3rd quarter was a nice example of running the MLF offense. A good mix of runs and passes. The Packers need to do more of that and Rodgers needs to support his young receivers. A little support can help a young receiver with their confidence as they are still learning the offense and their role within it. Thanks, Since '61

Rams, 49ers, Packers, Denver all lost. What do they have in common? Have people figured out the McVay system or do all of those teams not have their stuff together for the first game? Just something I wondered about.
I watched the Viking game in detail last night. OM, the defense was either not prepared for the looks they saw from MN. or they don't have a clue about zone concepts. There were times that you had two DBs shadowing one guy while another WR ran in front of them and they didn't react. The Dline didn't look at all like a top 10 unit.
The Oline, well they get paid as professionals, they just need to act like it. Lots of missed opportunities starting with Rodgers and including the WRs.
Burn that recording and hope it's just first game jitters.

Alexander would love the challenge of playing the top WR. I think he is up for it. Smart offensive coordinators will try and avoid it with schemes and motions. We did that to other teams with our use of Adams. I read somewhere that many of our DB’s do better in man than in zone. But no defense can play man coverage the whole game when the opponent knows it. It’s too predictable and has its own weakness.

You can not logically Rodgers throws a beautiful, one of the best e er, still. However it’s his concentration and decision making that seems to have dropped off. Trying to go to 17 against lockdown double coverage at the end of the game when he had a wide open receiver in the middle v. SF was a giant mistake. Not pulling the ball back and jogging around the end for a score against the Vikings is another.

Happened when he tried to hit Cobb against the Vikings when he was blanketed…..inception. His fumble was another bad decision. Lastly the marriage of personal feeling with business/personnel decision is always a bad idea. Is Big Dog really still the big dog? 10% of his touches last year resulted in turnovers. Cobb is at best a part time role player you can put in packages where he’s the 4th or 5th option and covered accordingly

Joe Barry’s defense has the illusion of competency.

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