Cory's Corner: Why Would Aaron Rodgers Leave?

The Packers are very deep, but Rodgers' return will take a compromise. 

It’s making a lot of sense now. 

The Packers crushed the Washington Football Team 24-10 on Sunday at Lambeau Field. There was no David Bakhtiari, no Jairie Alexander, no Josh Myers and no Marquez Valdes-Scantling. Those are four key starters that were out due to injury and the Packers still won handily. 

Which begs the obvious question: Why would Aaron Rodgers leave a team that’s this good?

Remember when Aaron Rodgers dropped an interesting hint about his future after the Bears game? “I don’t think this is my last one, but I’ve enjoyed every single one of them,” Rodgers said.

When Rodgers said that in the bowels of Soldier Field, the Internet nearly melted. But it makes sense. This team is now 6-1. If the playoffs started tomorrow, the Packers would be the No. 3 seed in the NFC, taking on the No. 6 Saints in the first round. 

Now the Packers travel to the desert and face an undefeated Cardinals team. Arizona has had plenty of obstacles as well, but the Cardinals’ biggest obstacle this season was playing without their head coach due to COVID. Arizona has faced two likely playoff teams in Tennessee and the LA Rams and the Cardinals dominated both games. The Packers have faced two potential playoff teams and are 1-1.

But bad luck just doesn't end for Green Bay. Defensive coordinator Joe Barry and the best wideout on the planet in Davante Adams will likely be out for Week 8 vs. Arizona due to COVID. 

With all of the injuries and setbacks that the Packers have dealt with this year, this team is really proving how good it is. The defense, which has been looked at as the team’s biggest wart coming into the season, is ranked top 10 in pass rushing and pass coverage. Green Bay is also 7th in points per game and yards per game. 

That’s not bad, considering Za’Dairus Smith, the team’s best pass rusher with 12½ sacks last year, has only tallied 18 snaps this season. 

The question that Rodgers needs to ask himself is, “Will the grass be greener?” I mean, how many times have we seen a player leave a team only to be frustrated by how bad the new team is? It happens a lot and I think Rodgers knows what he has in Green Bay. 

The Packers have quality depth all over the place. The offensive line literally has guys tripping over themselves with guys that can play. And not just play, but they’ve done a remarkable job keeping Rodgers comfortable. 

And Rodgers has to take all of the recent moves that general manager Brian Gutekunst has made into account. That has to make him pause and think that maybe the Packers are in fact “all-in.”

Rodgers needs to ask himself what he wants. The Packers obviously want and need him and it would be crazy for Rodgers to leave a comfortable situation like Green Bay. The toughest thing that is going to stare Rodgers in the face is money. You cannot sign everyone. This isn’t Major League Baseball where the Yankees or Dodgers can just throw money everywhere. 

Rodgers has a cap hit of $46.1 million in 2022. That’s a huge number, especially if Rodgers wants to be surrounded with a plethora of talent. 

Rodgers is the fourth-best quarterback in the NFC right now behind Tom Brady, Matthew Stafford and Kyler Murray. He is being an incredible leader this season and is proving how much he wants to win by putting personal stats aside. 

I want Rodgers back and I would guess the majority of Packers fans do as well. 

Is Rodgers willing to compromise to make the Packers a consistent winner for the foreseeable future?

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Cory Jennerjohn is a graduate from UW-Oshkosh and has been in sports media for over 15 years. He was a co-host on "Clubhouse Live" and has also done various radio and TV work as well. He has written for newspapers, magazines and websites. He currently is a columnist for CHTV and also does various podcasts. He recently earned his Masters degree from the University of Iowa. He can be found on Twitter: @Coryjennerjohn

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NickPerry's picture

October 26, 2021 at 06:43 am

It's very easy for me to say Rodgers SHOULD take a pay cut for the betterment of the team. Sign an extension for A LOT less money and allow the Packers to keep much of the roster Gute has managed to build. With the endorsements and the money earned playing football, Rodgers is set for life as are his children should he ever have any and his grandchildren. Again, that's EASY for me to say and I'd imagine harder to do.

Rodgers is worried about his legacy, both in Green Bay and the NFL. NOTHING would cement his legacy in Green Bay more than taking a pay cut, putting that money back into the team, and winning another couple of SB's. I was so sick and tired of Rodgers before the season started I could have cared less if he was here next year and I admit, can still grow tired of his arrogance at times. BUT, I know without a doubt Aaron Rodgers give the Packers the best chance to win now and the next few years. Taking less, A LOT LESS would change my mind and I'd imagine many others about AR.

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Michael Nault's picture

October 26, 2021 at 11:02 am

Probably. But it would take a massive cut in pay as we are about to be in cap hell.

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Minniman's picture

October 26, 2021 at 03:41 pm

Also factor in that there will be cap raises in the coming years - and that the caps are linked to revenue (including TV rights renegotiations).

It's certainly not going to eradicate 50 million dollars, but some well placed renegotiated back-loading will make it close.

Re the cap. FYI, from 2014-2020 it increased (on average) $10M PER YEAR.

Last year it dropped $15.7M.

This is more TGR's realm, so I'd welcome his assessment of my next paragraph - With a post covid general economic rebound, stadium attendances and the TV rights deal revenue increases it's entirely possible that next years number increases at least $15M, potentially up to $25M if we factor in the post covid return to "normal" and the previous 7 year annual trend.

I do think that Gute is waiting to see what both the level of success and confirmation of next years cap before he makes his final decision.

One thing is for certain. AR's days as the highest paid QB are gone. He has lost leg speed, some would offer deep ball accuracy (I'm not sold on that yet) and he isn't as elusive in and around the pocket as he once was. His pay needs to reflect this.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 27, 2021 at 04:14 am

Well stated. Despite personal feelings, one should keep one's eyes on the main chance.

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PackNation23's picture

October 26, 2021 at 06:50 am

Really? AR12 is the 4th best QB in NFC? You would pick Matt Stanford and kyler Murray over a-rod in a win one game scenario? I sure as hell wouldn’t maybe Tom Brady but not those other two..stats aren’t everything and Stanford is 0-3 in playoffs and Kyler Murray hasn’t led his team to playoffs yet..plus russel Wilson is better as well than those 2

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MITM's picture

October 26, 2021 at 08:30 am

Yea that threw me off too

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PewAuKeeFan's picture

October 26, 2021 at 09:58 am

Corey may have taken his figures from "current stats". If so, that is one fair way of doing it. Maybe not the best, but fair.

Mahomes is in the doghouse because of multiple reasons. Prior to this year, he was being touted as "the best". This year Kyler Murray is sliding into that conversation. The veracity of those conversations would be determined several years in the future, when those 2 are able to sustain an elite level of play over those seasons.

Until then.... well, these are just individual opinions.

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Minniman's picture

October 26, 2021 at 03:47 pm

Add Lamar Jackson to that conversation too. There's a difference between having a breakout year and being able to sustain it thereafter (once you are on every DC's radar and they work to take away your strengths).

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 27, 2021 at 04:22 am

Yeah, I've got a problem with Lamar Jackson. For a QB, he's a good running back.

Jackson has had the #2, #3 and #2 ranked defense by points allowed the last three seasons, but is 1-3 in the playoffs. His best playoff best passer rating was in 2018 (78.8) and it decreased in 2019 and 2020. In the three years he's been in the playoffs, his average for passer rating is a dismal 68. AR's is 100.5. AR is only 11-9, but in most years he has been trying to drag an average to less-than-average defense to the top.

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Savage57's picture

October 26, 2021 at 07:09 am

I'd like be able to watch Aaron Rodgers play his entertaining style of football wearing the Green and Gold.

Whether that's practically possible is the answer to a question I'm not at all qualified to weigh in.

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Coldworld's picture

October 26, 2021 at 07:11 am

Is this going to be a weekly feature?

Regardless of personal opinion, the rationales have been trotted out at great length for months.

Whether Rodgers leaves or stays, this will be a very significantly different roster next year due to the reality of the cap and the commitment of it to now. Enjoy it while one can. Next year will be a new adventure.

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Guam's picture

October 26, 2021 at 07:56 am

Well said ColdWorld. This story will sort itself out after the season is over. For now, just enjoy the ride and hope the Packers get to hoist the Lombardi trophy at season's end.

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dobber's picture

October 26, 2021 at 07:58 am

Well stated.

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Bure9620's picture

October 26, 2021 at 08:39 am

Without question. I still think this is a 2 year plan for Love. In fact, the FO wanted to move on this year, but MLF said no, not ready. Jordan Love is not sitting for 3 years....He is QB1 next year or you trade him.

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dblbogey's picture

October 26, 2021 at 11:11 am

Trade him to who and for what? Are teams dying to give up draft picks for Jordan Love?

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Bure9620's picture

October 26, 2021 at 11:55 am

Then he is your QB. You cannot extend Rodgers and then keep Love around

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 26, 2021 at 07:16 am

None of us know what will happen with Rodgers in the offseason. I don't know if he knows or if the Packers know.

That being said, its going to be hard to find a better fit for Rodgers then the Packers. The only team that I could see him potentially going to, that would be somewhat close to what GB has is the Steelers. They have good offensive weapons, a pretty good defense. They don't have the Packers OL. And that is something Rodgers should really look at because as he gets older the more important the OL play will be.

The core of this team will be intact next year. Sure there will be players moving on. They can't keep everyone. BUT, the core of the group will be here. The OL will be intact. Bakhtiari, Jenkins, Myers is the core. I can't remember if Turner is under contract or not. But they have Wild Man #70 and Runyan.
They also have Jones, Dillon. The defense will have Clark, Gary, Savage, Alexander, Stokes and more. The core of the team is here. And lets not forget that LaFleur is the HC. His playcalliing/schemes have really meshed well with what Rodgers does. Joe Barry's defense is showing some promise.

If they decide to keep Rodgers, for more then just next year I would expect them come to an agreement on a new deal. I would not be surprised if that happens before the season ends.

I'm not saying Rodgers will be back. I'm not saying Rodgers won't be back. I'm just saying in terms of fit, I don't think Rodgers will find a better one then GB.

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Razer's picture

October 26, 2021 at 07:47 am

All good points and I fundamentally agree. The Packers do fit Rodgers today. Depending on how long Rodgers sees himself playing, he may need to endure more Packer-way management where veterans are released in favor of cheaper-younger. Like Brady, he won't want that. I just don't see Gutekunst mortgaging the future for maybe another run.

San Fran would have been my guess as a landing spot. Home, talent, good coach would have fit Rodgers EXCEPT they threw away all those future picks chasing their lightning. New Orleans might have fit Rodgers as well. These two teams fit Rodgers need to win at any cost reality.

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 26, 2021 at 08:39 am

I honestly think Rodgers has 5 years of play like he is now. Perhaps a little drop off. But his arm talent, awareness and smarts, allow him to keep playing as long as he wants really.

Its all about how long he wants to play and how long GB wants him to be here.

I thought 49ers until they traded up and got Lance. There was the Broncos Rumors, but that seems like a good place to avoid. Steelers make the most sense to me. They need a new QB. They have a lot of veterans on the team. Good weapons. A HC that Rodgers seems to like.

The Saints are a team that is always in cap issues. They were worse then GB. I'm not sure how they are now. I don't think they would be a realistic option, unless their cap is better. That I don't know about.

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marpag1's picture

October 26, 2021 at 08:04 am

"The core of this team will be intact next year."

I won't argue. But I guess it depends on how you define "core" or "intact." It might be a gigantic understatement to say "Sure, there will be players moving on." I'm not a real capologist, but the Packers project to be about 30 million over the cap just with existing contracts. Their top 5 contracts (ARod, Z, Bak, Clark and P. Smith) would suck up a massive 65% of their total cap next year. Personally, I don't know how the Packers can stomach a $28M cap hit for Z. Smith. I can't see them keeping Preston Smith at $20M. I'm pretty much taking it for granted that they have to move on from Billy Turner, whose cap hit is $9M, and Dean Lowry who comes in a $8M.

None of this includes Davante. Nor does it include Campbell, Lazard, MVS, Tonyan, Bojorquez, King, Patrick, Lancaster, and Nijman. That's a lot of starter-types, and also a quality punter. How many of these can they resign, given the fact that they are already $30M over even without them?

Right now, Hopkins is the highest WR at $27M, and you would think that Adams will be gunning for something north of that. The Packers will also have to think about extending Alexander and Jenkins (who will enter their last years next season), and I think if you want to keep Jenkins you're going to have to give him tackle money.

Again, not really arguing. Just presenting the other side of the story for comparison.

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 26, 2021 at 08:57 am

I define core as in key players. Bakhtiari, Jenkins, Myers on the OL. I can't remember if Turner is under contract after this year. Jones and Dillon are under contract. WR's would need to be figured out. They will have Rodgers, I believe Lazard?

Defense, Gary, Clark, Keke, Savage, Stokes, Alexander are all here for next year for sure. I'm not sure about Amos. Z will be gone no matter what.

I assume you are accurate with Turner, and Lowry. Both of those guys will likely either restructure their deals. With the way Lowry is playing in the new defense I would think they would look to redo his deal to extend him a few years. Adding another core player. Turner has been really good at RT, but do they want Jenkins to play RT?

One thing to keep in mind is that the following year the cap is expected to rise significantly. They very well could push some of the into that year.

I'm not a cap expert by any means. I just look at it that if they want to get a deal done, they will find a way to make it work.

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Bure9620's picture

October 26, 2021 at 08:41 am

One thing that is very clear, Rodgers is not playing for GB on his current contract. They voided the 3rd year and pushed money out. On his current deal, Rodgers Cap hit is $44 Million in 2022. Not happening. I also don't think the FO or Rodgers want to do a new deal.

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 26, 2021 at 08:58 am

Correct. They will not be playing on this current contract next year if he returns. I'm not sure how they would redo it and how they can redo it. But if he returns he will have a new deal.

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ApplesAndTons's picture

November 02, 2021 at 02:09 pm

of course, this is 12s choice. he certainly can leave it as is, and force Gute's hand. that would be interesting. also, i expect a couple there's a potential for a few fake injuries next year ala Julian Edelman. players will have more leverage in the coming years, esp with teams offering ownership and allowing players to bet on themselves

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Razer's picture

October 26, 2021 at 07:35 am

The Packers missed the time to leverage Aaron Rodgers and his future with this team. We are probably seeing the closest thing to "all-in" this season and then the Packer instinct to protect the future will kick in. I don't see us throwing a mega contract at Davante Adams (nor should we) and I don't see us resigning some of the veterans that are now finishing their contracts (Z Smith, Amos, Turner, Cobb). Alexander is also going to command a big contract and so is Campbell. So where do we get the money to keep the train going.

The question becomes "how bankrupt do the Packers want to be after Rodgers"? If we can't resign enough talent to win with Rodgers (keep him happy) then there is no use keeping a miserable QB1 AND missing out on the draft capital that he could bring.

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Bure9620's picture

October 26, 2021 at 08:43 am

Nope they will blow it up, and then begins the Love development and 2 year roster build. The Packers may not be a playoff team in '22 and '23

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Harold Drake's picture

October 26, 2021 at 07:46 am

Sadly, Mr. Jennerjohn, you are not even the fourth best writer for CHTV. Here are five points which may serve as a reality check for CJJ and others living in the distortion field.

1. Aaron Rodgers must be considered as the equal of Brady, Mahomes, and Allen when allowing for the talent levels of each of their respective organisations. On a pure passing level, I would choose AR12 over those three every time although obviously Brady has a Bart Starr-level of command and consistency that cannot be denied.

2. Aaron Rodgers will NOT be coming back to the Packers. He hates Gutekunst. He hates the fact that, by wasting a No. 1 draft pick on the Love Bust, Gutekunst the Destroyer ignored Rodgers' stated desire to remain with the team until the end of his career.

3. Aaron Rodgers has already been playing for Green Bay at a relative discount to the NFL's other highest paid QBs. Why would he continue to give money back to an organisation that has deliberately disrespected him?

4. Aaron Rodgers is at a point in his life and career where he wants a change of scenery. He disagrees with the conservative mindset of the Packers' FO that has seen the organisation fail to lock and load this year in a bid to go all in on a Super Bowl during AR12 and DA's final seasons with the team. The acquisitions of Campbell, Douglas, and Mercilus are impressive but hardly adequate to give the Packers an elite defense. The failure to add an elite DL to the unit is a striking failure of judgement on the part of Gutekunst & Co especially in light of the season-ending back injury to Z which has rendered the pass rush ineffectual. Gary is improving and the addition of Mercilus will help but not to the degree that a team hoping to go deep into the playoffs for a third consecutive year would need.

5. Aaron Rodgers is not the type of individual who forgives and forgets no matter how profound his Buddhist studies and Zen mastery might lead us to believe. He wanted out this year, and there is ample reason to believe that he regards this as his "last dance" with the team. It is time to face reality and enjoy the current season before Packer fans born after 1985 will see what life is like with Jordan Love at the helm after the brilliant reigns of Brett Favre and AR12. But Rodgers will find many teams willing to pay him the $40 million per year over three years that he is likely to command while Adams could well end up joining him on a club whose GM understands the value of a GOAT-level QB.

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CheeseUs's picture

October 27, 2021 at 07:49 am

Calling Love a bust is astonishing. Almost clown like. Mind you Rodgers wasn't the top notch gun slinger he is now. Commentators going as far as saying Green Bay is in trouble if Rodgers is QB. Sitting for 4 years played a BIG part. Jordan Love is in PRIME position to flourish. The kid has only played 2 PRESEASON games, and you're labeling him a bust. Green Bay has a run game, a QBs bestfriend.
And I hate to say it but Rodgers has had his chances, he just couldnt make the most of them. 3-4 NFC championships appearances IN A ROW isnt a fluke, gotta win them when they count. The opportunity is there, just cant push it through.

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Harold Drake's picture

October 28, 2021 at 02:11 am

Dear Fellow Clown,
It's too early of course to definitively state that Love is a bust, but having seen enough tape of him throwing leads me to believe that he does not have a good motion, does not have a quick release, and does not have the accuracy needed to play at an elite level in the NFL. So my standards are perhaps higher than yours. I'm willing to say "bust" just to irritate the Rodgers haters out there who simply toe the party line and never criticise or question the Packers' upper management. Even Nagler is reluctant to do so but he has to maintain his fan base and relatively congenial relations with the FO for the sake of CHTV. I have no such need to be diplomatic. I believe that many of Gozer Gute's player moves have been outstanding of late - especially Campbell and Mercilus - but where is the stud DL that is a GLARING WEAKNESS. As Nagler said on the Patreon livechat, the Packers needed to take a Vita Vae even though Rashon Gary is improving and may one day emerge as a top sack artist. However...

Love is a secondary issue. Jennerjohn's article is woefully misguided and misleading. He has zero basis for suggesting that Rodgers could be brought back and it is manifestly false to suggest that AR12 would take a hometown discount when he has been UNDERPAID over the last several years compared to the annual salaries paid to other, generally inferior QBs, in the NFL. Jennerjohn is simply trying to stir hope amongst the masses. I suggest that this is a classic case of living in denial.

Gozer Gutekunst has engineered the premature breakup of a very good team and when Rodgers and Adams are gone you will see what life is like with Love in charge. My belief is that the Packers will enter a sustained era of mediocrity.

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croatpackfan's picture

October 26, 2021 at 07:52 am

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, Cory WTF?

It is already boring, deeply booooooooooooooooooooooooooooring!

Who cares. Who can predict what will be tomorrow?

One simple fact. Do you know that Yellowstone is active largest Mega volcano in the world? Do you know that Yellowstone blows in approximately every 600,000 to 650,000 years? Do you know how much time passed from the last blow? I will tell you. Approximately 725,000 years. Yellowstone can blow up this evening or next day. And you are discussing why should someone stay with some organization?

Hell no

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Johnblood27's picture

October 26, 2021 at 08:55 am

Im gonna visit Yellowstone this year, before it all blows up!

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croatpackfan's picture

October 26, 2021 at 10:18 am

Good decision! I really wish you nice visit.

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Johnblood27's picture

October 26, 2021 at 03:12 pm

Actually, I have already been there.

It is a wonder of nature for sure.

It is also waaaaay too big to be seen in one visit.

Also the seasons make a huge difference.

I encourage everyone to support and visit our National Parks, they are the best part of our nation.

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jurp's picture

October 26, 2021 at 07:59 am

Why Would Aaron Rodgers Leave?
Money
He hates Gutekunst and probably Mark Murphy and Russ Ball
Money
He wants at least some control over the roster
Money
He feels disrespected by the entire franchise
Money
He's rather be on or nearer to the West Coast, which is where he thinks his after-football future lies
Money

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Johnblood27's picture

October 26, 2021 at 08:58 am

What in the hell are you trying to say?
Legacy!
Do you have some subliminal message buried in your post?
Legacy!
Please just say what you mean!
Legacy!
I absolutely hate cryptic messages.
Legacy!

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jurp's picture

October 26, 2021 at 06:43 pm

You can't eat Money or your Legacy, but you can only buy food with one of them.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 27, 2021 at 04:28 am

If it is a business decision, AR should stay in GB. He will easily make up for any loss of salary with off the field endorsements if he can win even one more super bowl, and more than one should easily make that possible. Even a couple of super bowl appearances should be enough to make him a bundle.

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Since'61's picture

October 26, 2021 at 01:05 pm

Much of that changes on both sides with an SB win. Thanks, Since ‘61

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Bearmeat's picture

October 26, 2021 at 08:51 am

Cory.

Let this die. Please. We can talk about this in March.

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barutanseijin's picture

October 26, 2021 at 09:14 pm

It's clickbait. We bit. Until we stop, it'll probably continue.

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LambeauPlain's picture

October 26, 2021 at 09:05 am

"Is Rodgers willing to compromise to make the Packers a consistent winner for the foreseeable future?"

Only if Rodgers does a Brady and gives up millions to help the Team crawl some distance out of cap hell...even then they will crawl no further as they bump into that cap.

Frankly, I have seen nothing in Rodgers that would indicate he'd do a home town discount "double check". Pride and arrogance and grudges are important motivators for him. Taking a pay cut to "keep the band together 2.0" doesn't seem very likely.

Mostly wishful thinking he will be back.

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Oppy's picture

October 26, 2021 at 09:16 am

I don't understand why there's anyone who thinks the prospect of the Packers and Rodgers parting ways is all about what Rodgers wants.

Rodgers doesn't have a no-trade clause in his contract to the best of my knowledge.

The coming decision to keep or trade Rodgers is all about the Packers making a long-term, big picture decision for the Packers, not about if Rodgers decides he wants to stay or go.

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Guam's picture

October 26, 2021 at 10:18 am

It has been interesting to watch the KC Chiefs this year. Mahommes got his huge contract and now the Chiefs are looking less and less like Super Bowl contenders. Seattle has gone down hill after Russ Wilson got his big contract. Much has been made about Brady's less than market contract as a reason Tampa Bay has stayed competitive despite a HOF QB. Arizona has the best record in the NFL with a QB on his rookie contract.

I wonder if the narrative around having a great (highly paid) QB in order to win the Super Bowl is about to change. What happens with Rodgers after this season might be another benchmark in that discussion.

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LambeauPlain's picture

October 26, 2021 at 10:37 am

Yeah, but look how well Rodgers did after he signed HIS new mega deal in 2018....oh wait....

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dblbogey's picture

October 26, 2021 at 11:17 am

Yep. Rodgers was mediocre in '18 and '19, and he was getting older. That's why they drafted a QB in '20. Seems logical to me.

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Oppy's picture

October 26, 2021 at 10:39 am

Guam, I've been on the record about soaring vet QB contracts and how they are tipping the odds towards teams with young QBs on rookie or 2nd contracts for the last 5 years.

QBs, and now it looks like WRs, are starting to price themselves out, IMO.

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Guam's picture

October 26, 2021 at 05:22 pm

Agreed Oppy. $45 million for Rodgers and $25 million for Adams is just not doable under any salary cap. Given their short careers in the NFL, I understand players trying to get as much as they c an, but team GMs need to be the voice of sanity here.

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October 26, 2021 at 10:23 am

Here is my limited understanding, and I agree it's just a fan reacting to what's been put out there, which means I could be way off base here....

But with that said, what I understood happened to get Rodgers back into camp and rejoin the team this year, was they agreed to void the last year of his contract, moving up his free agency by one year, with the team allowing Rodgers to move on after this year if that's what he wants. In other words, if he makes it clear he wants a trade, they would comply with those wishes.

That's what I took out of all the drama of last season anyway. I guess we'll see soon enough.

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Oppy's picture

October 26, 2021 at 10:36 am

Voided years aren't years a player is no longer under contract (to my limited understanding.)

I believe the purpose of voided years is to say, "We'll figure out how we're going to pay you at a later date." Insert TGR for actual, insightful and correct commentary on voided years here.

Basically, to get Rodgers back in the fold for 2021, the Packers said, 'come back and give it whirl. If you don't like it, we'll arrange for your trade next year." However, from what I've read, nothing was instituted that said the Packers -couldn't- trade Rodgers regardless of how he feels about it.

I'm pretty sure the Packers had every intention of trading Rodgers after 2021 season either way. Honestly, I think they managed to appeal to Rodger's ego to get him back in the fold in 2021. I fully believe the Packers fully intend to move Rodgers after this season for reasons mentioned by others above- Keeping Rodgers in 2022 and beyond almost necessitates a full team rebuild from scratch- a rebuild that was already started a few
years ago- and I don't think a suitable team can be built around the salary Rodgers will command.

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SanLobo's picture

October 26, 2021 at 06:46 pm

These arguments that Rodgers gets no say in a possible trade are silly. No team will trade for Rodgers unless Rodgers agrees to play for them. Rodgers doesn’t need a no trade clause to exert influence on a trade.

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croatpackfan's picture

October 27, 2021 at 04:13 am

Well, do you remember Favre vs Packers. Favre wanted to go to Minnesota and he ended in New York, playing for Jets one season!

So, no, player can not refuse the deal. You are NOT TRADING player, you are trading his contract. He has to play if he wants to get paid. SO Favre did that and after the 1 season he went to lowly lilac team...

So, players are not slaves, but they have contractual obligations they need to fill. Other question is how he would play if Packers trade his contract to team he do not want to play. And, of course, it is much better if you'll trade his contract to the team he is agreed with.

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Oppy's picture

October 27, 2021 at 05:57 am

He makes a point, Croat.

A team will not risk trading a great deal without a verbal commitment from the player that they are open to resigning / renegotiating / extending the terms of their contract, if the player only has a year left.

Especially with an older player, who could in protest, simply decide to retire.

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SanLobo's picture

October 27, 2021 at 07:41 am

Favre and Rodgers are two very different people. Rodgers has many interests outside of football, lots of investments and lots of money, and he seriously considered not returning to football this season. Every possible NFL trade partner knows Rodgers may walk away from football if his desires are not met. Let’s say Green Bay decides to trade Rodgers to a bottom 5 team with a lousy O-line and demands that teams best WR as part of the trade. Rodgers would be a fool to play for that team. To get Rodgers to agree to play for a team, that team has to have the potential to get to and win a SB. GB can trade his contract to anyone, but they get nothing in return unless Rodgers actually shows up to play for them.

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Matt Gonzales's picture

October 26, 2021 at 09:26 am

Despite all the off-season drama, I think it was a foregone conclusion that, if Rodgers came back for this season, he would be the consummate team player and try to bury the hatchet with the front office. He had every reason to do so, as no team wants their highest paid player to be a locker room cancer.

If he leaves, it is because he wants to earn every dollar he is worth, and both he and the GB front office know there's no way to do that here while also fielding a competitive team.

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Oppy's picture

October 26, 2021 at 01:40 pm

And yet, Rodgers on his very first day of training camp decided to use the podium in front of the national press to shit all over the Packers front office.

I don't know how you can frame that as "try(ing) to bury the hatchet with the front office."

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Bure9620's picture

October 26, 2021 at 04:29 pm

Rodgers can decide for himself to be or not to be a locker room cancer. That should have nothing to do with a front office, any front office.

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croatpackfan's picture

October 27, 2021 at 04:16 am

"He had every reason to do so..."

Yes and the first reason would be contract with highest money in the NFL. How dare they signed that humiliating contract with him...~~~~~~~~

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King_James's picture

October 26, 2021 at 09:32 am

The top 3 reasons Rodgers won't be back next season:

1) COST TO KEEP HIM. We all know we're going to be in cap trouble next year, so by keeping Rodgers that automatically means we are losing the majority of Adams, MVS, Lazard, Cobb, Tonyan, Lewis, Turner, Z Smith, P Smith, Lowry, Campbell, Amos, and Sullivan next year by making that happen. Not to mention the prospect of Love as a franchise QB for us. The idea that Rodgers would take a massive pay cut to stay here seems very unlikely because he's never done it in the past and it would be very hypocritical of him after what he said this off-season and the lack of respect he fells like he gets from the Packers. Respect = money in the NFL.

2) BENIFIT TO TRADE HIM. Not only do the Packers get to keep the majority of the players mentioned above and get to see if Love really has it, they also are going to get a boatload of picks for Rodgers. The Packers could easily get 3 1st round picks, including a top 10 pick in 2022 for Rodgers. Picks that can help rebuild the few pieces we do lose with Aaron and make for an easy transition to Love. Or gives us the ammo to get the next great QB.

3) MINI REBUILD/LESS CHANCE TO WIN NEXT YEAR WITH OR WITHOUT RODGERS. Next years team is going to be worse then this years pretty much garenteed. And if Rodgers can't win it all this year, when combined with all the other years he/we couldn't get it done when we had one of, if not the best teams in football, then how's he going to get it done with a lesser team as his skills decrease and he gets older? Honestly (I know this maybe unpopular) given the cost to benefit, we might have a better shot of winning it all without Rodgers over the next 5 years then with him. Again, if he can't do it this year, then when is he going to do it? If he has to have a perfect team around him to get it done, then he's no better then the majority of starting QBs in the NFL and not worth the price/sacrifice at this point.

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barutanseijin's picture

October 26, 2021 at 09:33 pm

I doubt they get a boatload of picks for Rodgers. Teams know the Packers are in a tight spot with the cap — as are most teams. There will be a limited number of bidders and the Packers will have no leverage. I’d be surprised if they got a single first round pick.

I see you guys don't like hearing that. Have some historical context:

Trading 36 yr old Montana did not yield the Niners a boatload of picks. They got one (1) first rounder, but had to give up another player and a 3rd round pick to KC. That was in an environment without the cap pressure teams are facing today. So again, straight up for a first round pick for a 38 yr old Rodgers would be a good deal.

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LayingTheLawe's picture

October 26, 2021 at 10:23 am

The whole offseason nonsense was over the idea that the Packers were already planning to get rid of Rodgers and move on. So what's changed?

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Oppy's picture

October 26, 2021 at 01:41 pm

Bingo. Absolutely nothing. The plan hasn't changed.

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Michael Nault's picture

October 26, 2021 at 10:59 am

If he don't take a 50% pay cut to keep players here, he's gone anyway. And I don't think he is that type to play along. He is a "It's mine and I'm keeping it A$$hole anyway

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Oppy's picture

October 26, 2021 at 01:44 pm

I don't know that it's as simple as Rodgers being a greedy hoarder of cash.

He's a union mentality guy; for better or for worse. He sees it as his duty to get as much $$$ as possible because it helps set the market for all the other QBs around the league, as well as players in general.

If he takes less than top dollar, it makes it near impossible for other QBs to negotiate for better contracts as well, because everyone will point to Rodgers as say, "Look at how Rodgers took a team friendly contract.. You're no Aaron Rodgers, why should you get paid?"

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jurp's picture

October 26, 2021 at 06:53 pm

Yep, Brady signing contracts for less than he was worth has definitely hurt the contracts that other QBs have signed.

No, Rodgers is out only for himself. Can't really fault him for that, though.

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Bure9620's picture

October 26, 2021 at 02:34 pm

It's fairly simple. "Why would Rodgers leave?" He would leave because neither the FO or Rodgers want an extension. They traded up in the first round to draft a QB. I think many Packer fans are still in denial about this and have been for nearly 2 years. The clock started on Rodgers when Love was drafted. Rodgers knows this which is why he tried to speed up the process. All first round QBs play eventually and in 2022 Love will be QB1, and if not he needs to be traded. Anything else would be roster construction malfeasance. I would argue a 1st round QB you traded up for never playing is actually fireable. Gute is fully aware his job and legacy as GM are riding on Jordan Love.

Everything Brian Gutekunst has done signifies this is an all in year with Rodgers and him not a part of the future. He voided the final year of Rodgers contract making him a $46 mil cap hit in 2022, this isn't happening, it is monopoly money. They restructured Z. Smith. They restructured Preston Smith and his cap hit in 2022 would be nearly 20 million, Z would be 28 million. Both will be unloaded. The Packers will be unloading contracts after this season.

Rodgers, Cobb ,Z Smith, P. Smith, King will all be cap casualties. I also doubt Davante signs a 3rd contract they may not even offer him one as their number would be much lower than the open market. This roster will look much different in 2022.

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Oppy's picture

October 26, 2021 at 02:01 pm

Minor difference in opinion: The clock started on Rodgers in either 2017 or 2018 (I have a tendency to believe it was 2017.)

When the Packers released Mike McCarthy after the 2018 season and Mark Murphy famously (allegedly?) told Rodgers, "Don't be the problem", the message was clear: We know you had just as much to do with this situation as McCarthy, but we are cautiously siding with you on this one. Get your shit together and don't make use regret the decision."

Rodgers was not exactly playing nice with the new staff in 2019. I for the life of me don't know how some Packers fans ignore the signs that Rodgers was being defiant in terms of taking coaching, running the offense as dictated by his head coach, etc and so forth. He was even directly contradicting the position coaches in press conferences. His half-hearted approach to training and addressing obvious mechanics issues.. at one point, it was revealed that Rodgers was actively telling his WRs to ignore the coaching they were receiving from their position coaches and do what he said instead- and that the young WRs were being caught in a situation where they had to decide to listen to the coaches (knowing they would not get passes from the QB as a result) and take heat from Rodgers, or listen to Rodgers and get chastised by the coaching staff for not playing the techniques they were being taught in practice... all this contributed to the Packers front office determining Rodgers had his chance and blew it. The future was coming sooner than later anyways, but the decision was made: We're planning for the future, now.

2020 the Packers take Jordan Love. The plan was now set in motion, there's no turning back now. Of course, Rodgers, ever fueled by disrespect, decided to actually work at being the QB he could have been in 2019, work with the system and take the coaching from his coaches like he could have in 2019.. his ego took a slap in the face and he responded. Too late. He could have been a consummate professional and done the right things in 2019, but he decided he's bigger than the organization and ignored the chain of command. His game suffered and the Packers front office took the cue.

The plan to move forward is on- for better or for worse.

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Bure9620's picture

October 26, 2021 at 02:20 pm

Agree good points. It is true most can't really stand Rodgers, particularly position coaches. It is crazy we are in year 3 of MLF and we are not seeing his full offense yet! This 5 wide spread crap is sooo Not his offense!! No matter what MLF says to try and say it is, "we can chip with 5 wide" (which I still don't understand and consider myself pretty adept at scheme concepts). Also we are still relatively pass heavy. I actually think Love will run this offense quite well, we will see a run first team in 2022 and play action off it.

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Packers0808's picture

October 26, 2021 at 12:15 pm

My real belief is Rodgers is either a Packer or retired next year! Best bet is he will be a Packer when and if he retires, but he will be back next season.

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Bure9620's picture

October 26, 2021 at 01:18 pm

So they extend, Rodgers, Adams, and Jaire??

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Philarod's picture

October 26, 2021 at 12:38 pm

"Rodgers is the fourth-best quarterback in the NFC right now behind Tom Brady, Matthew Stafford and Kyler Murray."

Well, if you just go by this season's passer rating, Rodgers is tied with Brady at fifth behind Wilson, Murray, Stafford and Prescott. But, given that he was last year's MVP, and in my opinion, doesn't have the weapons that the others (except for Murray) have, I'll still take him as the best in the NFC, and given Mahomes's present struggles, the best in the league. For how much longer? I don't know, but given Tom's example, why not a few more years at roughly this amazing level.

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TXCHEESE's picture

October 26, 2021 at 01:21 pm

I know I said this in another comments section, but why in the world are we discussing this crap not even half way through the current season. Can Cory not find something football related to discuss? I you want to drum up drama, go out and "share" with the woke crowd.

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HarryHodag's picture

October 26, 2021 at 01:53 pm

Rodgers sees the handwriting on the wall in Green Bay. Jordan Love is no immediate threat, but if AR stays a bunch of vets will go to hit the salary cap, thus you will likely have weaker team. I did some calculating at Sportrac and without Rodgers, Z. Smith (rare to recover long term from back problems) and Adams(free agent) the Packers would have about $30 million in cap room...enough to sign a couple FA's. One stipulation I would make as part of any Rodgers trade is a starting WR coming back.

Rodgers was flirting with Pittsburgh so Chase Claypool might be one to look at. If he goes to Denver, Jerry Jeudy would be a good return. The Packers likely would still get two #1's back.

I'm convinced Adams will sign wherever Rodgers goes so losing either WR in Pittsburgh or Denver would be a wash at worst or an improvement.

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Bure9620's picture

October 26, 2021 at 02:35 pm

Rodgers ($46 million), the Smith brothers ($19.8 million and $28 million respectively) and Cobb ($9.8 million) if kept in 2022 on there current deals, would total over $96 million in cap hit. They are all moved or released (3 will be released) one traded. Can you guess which??

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Since'61's picture

October 26, 2021 at 02:22 pm

Time to stay focused on the upcoming game. I’ll worry about the off-season transactions when the off-season gets here. GPG! Thanks, Since ‘61

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Gman1976's picture

October 26, 2021 at 03:38 pm

I suspect we will see Rodgers in green and gold for the next few years. And the Big Dog will back next year too! And the rest with contracts up? We'll find out after the Superbowl! Go PackGo!

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