^^THIS a thousand times over^^ if almost like people forget that.

So the beautiful mystery is now a beautiful conspiracy? I have no understanding why last years top WRs would skip voluntary OTAs to avoid playing catch and running plays half speed in Jerseys and shorts...unless they are showing solidarity to their QB.

And if what you say is true, coach Matt is a bald faced liar. He seemed genuinely unsure why the WRs skipped, even after talking with each.

And showing solidarity to AR by the skip also is a message "we have your back, so get this done and let's get to work in GB."

GG, my man... Something I can disagree with you on.....

IMO for sure it was orchestrated. TBO i'm not sure how i feel about it. In one way I like the bond between WR and QB. DA was willing to put money where his mouth is. It is voluntary so IMO its unfair to get too upset.
On the other hand.... Guys like EQ and Funchess are not assured spots and should be looking out for themselves instead of getting into the drama. I'd love to see them cut funchess and EQ if they don't see them as being more than 4-5 WRs. Not for cutting off your nose to spite your face moves, plus maybe they had good reason.

If AR was about his teammates (the people) he would of encouraged them to be there both for the players own good, his teammates and fans. once again IDK but can only speculate.

Awesome love gets all the snaps

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Wasn't there a push by Tom Brady via the NFLPA to encourage players to hold out of OTAs? I think this is more of a show of support for the union than for an individual player.

You’re in pretty deep with the multiple players trade theory, and you’ve explained why, but I’m still not sold.

It seems to me that we’re living in a time where people like to signal how they FEEL about things, whether it’s on Facebook or the football field. If this is what the receivers are doing, then is duly noted. Let’s get to work now.

Why would they sign Bortles if they have been working on a deal for Bridgewater?

I think Bortles would be a better mentor than Bridgewater since he has worked with Hackett before.

Thanks, Since ‘61

Samson, should the trade happen there is going to be at least one player from the Chubb, Surtain, Jeudy, Cortland, or Fant that will be included. Regardless if it is Bridgewater, or Lock (please Lock) they are just essentially a throw in, however Packer fans and the FO NEED a starting level player on the field for the GBP's this year. I would actually think there would be two starting players for the Packers from Denver. With Rodgers starting for Denver and lighting up the scoreboard if the Packers have nothing but a backup QB that doesn't see the field and only future draft choices fans will be looking for blood in GB.

More shit than getting off the pot

Dude - you are the man. perfect!!

But Rodgers is apparently in Hawaii to prevent the dangers of traveling to camp? Makes the Union position look stronger indeed.

Very sad but accurate comment. Everyone bashing the guy who has been the team for the last 13 seasons. It’s the easy way to go rather than to see that there are 2 sides to very story and to be fair about it. Thanks, Since ‘61

Scull, Don't stereotype now, though it may well be true it's more old people than young bashing Rodgers.

IMO the narrative that this doesn't fit is the media narrative: create as much controversy as possible. If AR and GBP are on great terms and he missed I think most would be fine with it. He doesn't need it and he is getting married so if ever there was a reason to miss.
One can argue the leadership aspect but its still not a big deal, IMO. It sells - Money

IMO, Us older people still put an emphasis on character to a higher degree than the younger generation, I'd say the generation before us had even higher standards but also had an issue with the money the players were making and resented that. IMO since the Clintons and Wall Street Movie (very, very, very much over simplified) it has become a world of "the ends always justify the means if your best interest". If you can do it and get away with it your stupid not to.

personally, I want every athlete to get as much money as they can, it's a short career window, dangerous sport, the money is there, it's just coming out of a bunch of super rich peoples profits. sure the prices are crazy but it's still televised so accessible.

The issue with AR is character. In this thread there is/are references to Unions. Something I am very familiar with and though it destroys efficiencies, jobs and relationships it is necessary as those in power would most often just walk all over those w/o as we have all seen through the years/history.

Ar, has a contract, in line with the players Union CBA. He was paid top dollar for his services throughout his career. Setting record deals. He has 3 years left on the contract that he agreed on.

Now, he has every right to TRY to renegotiate but in this case the leverage just isn't on his side. So what's he do, well there's a list of things that we all know, those actions in my opinion show a real lack of "character".

The latest, statements that its about the "people" just irks me. It's not about people who are your teammates, Coaches, team or fans or you wouldn't do it. It's about you and your desire for more money and control. Who doesn't want that, your not special in that regard, get over yourself.

older people have had to suck it up their whole lives for "people" namely their spouse and kids / family. So, it's hard to buy that from a guy who's made more money in the NFL than any active player. people young and old have had to "suck it up" so many times so no one is hearing it from poor little AR. That's the biggest reason I agree with your age premise though may temper the stereotype drawn..

The other behavioral age gap i've noticed. the older you are the more likely you are a fan first and foremost of a team, not nearly as much as a player as they come and go and no matter if its Bart Starr, Brett favre, reggie White etc they are just a small part of it. the Team/Org is what its about. IMO its why the older you are the more likely to just say fine, move on, let's go with the new guy and get on board. AR will be nothing but a bust in Canton and a section in Green Bay HOF in 25 years and even less in 50 to 100. the teams already 100 plus years old. Younger fans get caught up in players and all the hype they are given through the media, not because they are such great people or in many cases great players, but because it sells. Every week, and I mean every week the announcers talk about the best ever, special, haven't seen it before, generational. It can't be true every week but it's said every week. It's called hype, promotion, marketing etc.. The announcers are PAID to do it. Young people get caught up in that and think somehow they are special for being able to witness it. it plays on thy ego and naivety. old folk most likely fell for some of the same stuff but after 30 years of it you just come to realize whats up. Some may call that cynicism, I just call that experience.

No one is bigger than the game or team, period. Sure these guys are super athletes, super rich, Elite in their field (just to make an NFL Roster) so 99.9% of us can't relate or share those experience. But Character is universal. We are all equal, no one is "better" than someone else so when it comes to character we can all relate.

So ya, IMO the older one is the more likely, due to the lack of character issue, one is to be ready to move on and isn't upset about AR feelings being hurt be it for legit or legitimate reasons in their opinion.

Personally, I could care less where Aaron Rodgers is or what he’s doing. OTAs aren’t the issue. If I felt he were still a part of our team, he’s been around long enough to skip them. I believe he’s earned that if he chooses to not attend.

I’m not even sore at him for wanting out of GB to start a new life and play for a different team. He deserves to live his life.

But, don’t play us truly loyal fans for fools, Aaron Rodgers. I don’t like the snarky, underhanded BS... no. None of that with our Packers. It is not conducive to a winning culture, and it is disrespectful. The Packers organization & us fans, season ticket holders, 12 jersey owners, etc. (I’m all of that) deserve much better. Enough is enough.

AND, IF YOU WANT A TRADE, HAVE THE FUCKING STONES TO COME OUT AND ASK FOR ONE. FFS. ALL THIS GODDAM BULLSHIT YOU PUT US THROUGH.

You owe me for that “dropping dimes & suck it signs” t-shirt I bought too. $25 out the window...

- what Kenny Mayne said for his mic drop

Or....Maybe there are players whose careers are on the line and they know it is to their benefit that their ass is in camp (maybe players like ESB and Funchess should think about this). Maybe some of the players at OTA's 'are' professional men who are able to think out of the box knowing they do not need the NFLPA to tell them what they should or shouldn't do. Early in my career I was in a couple of Union's and will not expound other than to say thank God that was a few life times ago.

I also am finding that many professional sports writers are getting lazy and only want to further speculate from their key board, or doing a short video about the Rodger's and Packers flexing of muscles. Pretty easy to constantly speculate and opine regarding the same old opinion vs actually having to get out and research and interview players, etc. Getting old!

Old men on a runaway train unable to put their pitchforks back in the shed sounds like the Whiskey Rebellion! Metaphorically speaking. Fun times!

Money talks and all else walks.

Oooo! A new one folks: “Packer Professional Men” . That’s a high horse you’re riding Bucko. Feelings hurt?

So many fans sucked into the drama. None of the parties involved give a shit. The bottom line is always money, yours and mine. One way or the other we pay all of their freight. We are simply consumers in their eyes. This whole “Fan” thing is overrated. Fan$ pay all of their salaries, from Murphy to the last guy on the practice squad. Life’s too short for all the frustration generated by these fools, all of them.

Union....what could that mean? Of course the is a synonym for “evil” not a bringing together for common goals, right? “unionized policy “ that’s code for what? LoL

Yeah, johnblood, that’s for his new team to deal with, for sure. Rodgers will be a Bronco in about 1 week. I think it will be interesting to see how it all shakes out. Likely, Chubb plus 3 R1s. Add other Packers players and it gets even more interesting.

I’m guessing to get an initial set of terms agreed upon, DEN offered Chubb plus the 3 1s, maybe an R2 was something Gutekunst could say yes to before the draft, allowing DEN to take Surtain ll at #9. IMO, Denver had to make an offer good enough to get that “YES,” from the Packers before passing on Fields.

Still think we get Baron Browning too. He just seemed like a perfect addition for GB from R3, and I could see Gutekunst asking for that R3 to seal the deal, and DEN thinking it was a fair deal closer.

Probably wind up taking QB Drew Lock off their hands as well.

If that is the haul for GB to trade AR to DEN, it is solid.

Woodley lives part-time in Boulder and she is also a Hollywood actor, producer, and environmental activist. In her circles, she is the star - not so much Rodgers. I very much doubt that she is following him around like a lost puppy dog. If anything. it's the other way around.

P.s. - there is no imaginable way that she is re-locating to Green Bay - with all the work and projects that she has on the go.

I thought Del Mar, San Diego......

You and me both! If it’s going to happen let’s make it quick. If it doesn’t happen I think we’re in for a long ride.
Thanks, Since ‘61

Yes - that was his reason last year - which is understandable. However, assuming that he's now fully vaccinated - as well as his immuno-compromised family member - he (they) should be relatively safe - so...?

That would be the Houston Texans...

But...

I would try every way possible to get him to Dallas.

“Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man’s character, give him power.”
– Abraham Lincoln