Five Reasons for Aaron Rodgers Inconsistent Play This Season

Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers was the NFL MVP in 2020 and 2021 but this season, the future Hall of Famer’s play has fallen off significantly.

His completion percentage is down from 68.9 a year ago to 64.6 through 11 games this season. His touchdown percentage was 7.0 in 2021, in 2022 it has dropped to 5.1. His interception percentage has more than doubled from 0.8 last season to 1.9 through 11 games. His yards per attempt are down almost two yards from 8.8 in 2021 to 6.9 in 2022 and his overall quarterback rating has dropped from 111.9 to 93.2. That number is well below his career quarterback rating of 104.0.

But why is Rodgers struggling so much? Here is a look at five factors that may be contributing to his reduced effectiveness in 2022:

5. Age

Rodgers will turn 39 on December 2. While there are a few exceptions, that is the age when most quarterbacks begin to see a drop off in their level of play. Father Time remains undefeated even if players like Tom Brady can remain effective past 40.

Right now, age is probably the least important reason for the reduction in Rodgers’ effectiveness. His arm strength does not seem to be significantly reduced and he can still make all the necessary throws in the playbook.

4. Offensive Line Injuries and Inconsistency

This may was a bigger factor earlier in the season, although in recent weeks, the offensive line has had a more stable starting lineup and has played better.

Still, the Packers have had difficulties along the line. Left tackle David Bakhtiari has missed three games and parts of several others. His status for any game is up in the air because of his knee injury that is still not fully right after almost two years.  

Elgton Jenkins was also returning from injury. He struggled at tackle early in the season and then moved back to left guard where he has played better. Jenkins is gradually returning to form.

Royce Newman was a starter early in the season but his inconsistent play led to his benching and the Packers moved Jon Runyan Jr. to right guard to replace Newman.

Early in the season, when the offensive line was unsettled and not doing a good job of protecting Rodgers, the lack of time to throw had an impact on his effectiveness.

3. Attitude

There are a few aspects to this category. The first is the way Rodgers leads. He was absent from voluntary OTAs even though he knew he had many new players at the wide receiver position and was integrating rookies into the lineup. He has also called out his young receivers in the press. While some people view this as “tough love,” it may also rub some people the wrong way or hinder the development of trust between receiver and quarterback.

The other issue of attitude is the offensive philosophy. It often seems that Rodgers and head coach Matt LaFleur have different visions for the way this offense should run and what plays should be called. The team runs the ball a lot in one game and then abandons the run in others.

Rodgers likes to throw the ball downfield but early in the season between the offensive line issues and he new receiving corps, that was not effective. Rodgers kept trying to do it anyway.

The coach and quarterback need to be united in one philosophy of how this offense should run, even if that ends up being a compromise.

2. Receivers

The receiving corps had a lot of turnover and then a lot of injuries. Davante Adams and Marquez Valdes-Scantling departed this offseason. That left the Packers without two of their top three wideouts from a year ago. Adams was one of the best receivers in the league and Rodgers favorite target. MVS was the team’s best deep threat who was able to stretch the field and open things up for shorter patterns because of threat of the deep ball.

The Packers signed free agent Sammy Watkins in the offseason but he was injured in Week 2 and has not been effective since he returned.

The Packers drafted three rookies. Christian Watson missed most of training camp with an injury and injuries early in the season slowed his development. Romeo Doubs had a strong preseason and showed flashes of ability in the regular season but now he is injured. Samori Toure is a seventh round pick who has not assumed a large role in the offense thus far.  

Randall Cobb was on the IR and missed time with injuries and Allen Lazard also was banged up and missed two full games and parts of others.

Tight end Robert Tonyan is also recovering from the knee injury he suffered last year and is not back to his 2020 form.

Rodgers has been frustrated with the play of his receivers at times this season and it shows in his body language and his comments during press conferences. This has clearly hindered his play as he often fails to throw to open receivers because of a lack of trust.

In recent weeks, the return of Lazard and Cobb to the lineup combined with the development of Watson gives the team reasons for hope but the receiving corps is still not considered one of the better ones in the league.

1. Thumb Injury

Rodgers injured his thumb on the final play of the Packers loss to the New York Giants in London. It has not been the same since.

After the Packers loss to the Titans on Thursday, a game that saw Rodgers miss open receivers by uncharacteristic distances, he admitted the thumb has been an issue.

“I just didn’t have the same type of consistent grip and ball coming out the same way,” Rodgers said. “I threw a lot of wobblers tonight. There was some wind. Just missed a few throws I should have had.”

The Packers are hoping the mini bye will help improve the thumb and that will help improve Rodgers’ ability to throw the ball where he wants it to go.

These are some of the factors that have helped turned Rodgers from the NFL’s defending MVP to a much more inconsistent quarterback. The question is, can his play get back to the high level Rodgers and the team have become accustomed to?

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fangirl's picture

November 19, 2022 at 11:25 am

I said this before. I am a super fan of Rodgers but the 'thumb thing' reminds me of the 'toe thing-'
Rex Ryan called Rodgers out late last season and said 'your toe is fine' It likely did hurt early in the season though it was not fractured as fractures cause bleeding and discoloration. It was likely Covid-related and was likely not an issue later on.
The 'thumb thing' has been given too much attention by the media/commentators. Rodgers is likely going along with that narrative to deflect responsibility for poorly-thrown balls. But there is a reason for those wonky balls. See below.

He is very dependent on consistent receivers & O-lines as all QBs are. He is off his rhythm because he doesn't trust his receivers, (with good reason). O-line is better but it's still not what it should be.

I bet if you gave him the Chief's coach, the Chief's O-line and receivers, you would see the greatness of AR.

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Oppy's picture

November 19, 2022 at 12:35 pm

I bet if you gave him the Chief's coach, the Cheif's O-line and receivers, you'd see Andy Reid screaming at Rodgers a lot.

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fangirl's picture

November 19, 2022 at 12:45 pm

Maybe, maybe not...Rodgers has never had a decent coach

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Oppy's picture

November 19, 2022 at 01:50 pm

That's a load of bullshit.

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barutanseijin's picture

November 19, 2022 at 04:00 pm

Pure BS. MM was masterful in 2010. It took some skillful juggling to put together lineups that season due to the epidemic of injuries. He had just the right touch in the stretch run and playoffs. Even in 2014 he was able to put on a clinic vs the Pats, earning a rare handshake from Belichick. The Seattle game was his (and Rodgers’) downfall. It changed how people thought of him and Rodgers.

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Since'61's picture

November 20, 2022 at 08:25 am

What really change MM was the sudden loss of his younger brother 10 days after the debacle in Seattle. he was never the same coach after that, at least not in Green Bay. Thanks, Since '61

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croatpackfan's picture

November 19, 2022 at 04:13 pm

You know, it is pretty low to call Mike McCarthy not a good coach. He made ACR player who was through his carrier. First low thing ACR done was to run MM from the Packers on a very nasty way. Without Mike McCrathy and his QB school he would not excell in his prime in NFL. Never ever. Even ACR was telling that through the past, until he decided that he is more valuable than MM.

So, I see. Fans of ACR share his shortcomings glorifying them as virtues. After all, losing perspective of what is good and what is bad or what is virtue and what is shortcomings tells the most of any person.

Despite been banished from Green Bay (and he still have the street in Green Bay), Mike McCarthy never said one rude word about Green Bay. He respect what they allowed him by chosing him for the HC and he shows his gratitude for that.

His QB protege is completely different. All those words he said publicly about Packers was below any level. He was and he is acting as he invented Packers. He did not.

Shame on you!

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PhantomII's picture

November 20, 2022 at 05:58 pm

Problem with MM was his lack of design for WR to be schemed open which led to a lot of AR bad habits of holding the ball upwards of 5 sec. and launching a strike down field. These were prime times and were exciting, It also cost him 2 broken collar bones. The (GOAT) Tom Brady showed us many rings ago, if you just move the chains every play and make first downs, you win Championships...a lot of them. He had great defenses and a coach who could put a PS WR into the next game and be a CB who did his job. It pains me to say any of these things.
That is the largest obstacle AR can or will not attempt. This is His Kryptonite...this is what has kept him from achieving more in the NFL post season his entire career. His connection with DA was close, but when better coaches arrived in the post season...they took him away and we didn't have better WR depth and even when others were open AR didn't throw to them when he needed to.

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HarryHodag's picture

November 19, 2022 at 03:20 pm

Please sprain your thumb then try to throw an ice-cold odd--shaped object 30 yards to a pinpoint.

I've had a similar thumb injury and trust me, it's a miracle he can do what he does.

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greengold's picture

November 21, 2022 at 07:13 am

All the more reason to run the goddam rock.

But, Aaron Rodgers.

A mere 4 days after Aaron Jones & AJ Dillon split 37 attempts, they can’t amass anything more than 18? Between the two of them? They should have each had 18 carries v. TEN.

What am I saying though? National spotlight Thursday Night Heroball.

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Johnblood27's picture

November 21, 2022 at 07:32 am

GG my old friend!

Good to hear from you, keep it coming...

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greengold's picture

November 21, 2022 at 08:44 am

Some things just never change.

Always good to hear from you JB!!!

I didn’t expect anything different from the last 11 complete failures with the vacuum of team leadership at QB1.

That’s what happens with Prima Donas who’s focus = MVP / SB.

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Johnblood27's picture

November 21, 2022 at 09:27 am

how did rodgers hurt his thumb?

did someone kick him in the ass?

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greengold's picture

November 21, 2022 at 10:22 am

It’s been eight hundred eleventy four years… stuck up his ass. Some kind of repetitive motion injury.

The Packers average about 1.18 games/year with solid, dedicated rushing attempts.

Thumb out of ass, gets taped up, filmed, then apparently, shoved right back up in there. Every year. It’s a kind of perverse Groundhog Day…

“Hey, Aaron saw his thumb! Green Bay RBs must have had 30+ carries last week! It’s going to be another long Winter!”

LOL.

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Guam's picture

November 19, 2022 at 05:04 pm

I agree about the "thumb thing". Rodgers had his best game of the season versus Dallas and that was well into the "thumb thing". He also sandwiched the Dallas game with two bad games (Detroit and Tennessee) also during the "thumb thing". And had a bad game versus Minnesota prior to the "thumb thing". The "thumb thing" looks more like an excuse than a reason.

I disagree that Rodgers' problems are only because of the O-line and WRs. They are certainly part of the issue, but then why does he badly miss wide open receivers (Watkins and Lazard in the fourth quarter of the Tennessee game) when the O-line gave him plenty of time? He does not look like the Rodgers of five or ten years ago who almost never missed open receivers when he was given time.

Something else is also off. Is it age or attitude or conflict with HC? I don't know, but I am beginning to suspect Rodgers' best days are in the rearview mirror.

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Packerpasty's picture

November 19, 2022 at 07:31 pm

and unless he chooses to retire we will see him again next season....no one will trade for him..

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greengold's picture

November 21, 2022 at 07:18 am

The Jets just might want to trade for AR. They are a team with a great new HC in Saleh, a stellar D, and they’re QB starved.

The Jets want that immediate success a veteran QB might bring. AR would benefit from a change of scenery. The Packers would benefit by getting out from under that contract, and a committed focus upon their best rebuild attempt.

Trading AR to NYJ should be the Packers #1 offseason priority.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

November 20, 2022 at 02:14 pm

FG,
I 100% agree with the thumb injury aspect but not so much on some of the other stuff.

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Leatherhead's picture

November 20, 2022 at 03:53 pm

I'd like to agree with this, but I can't.

Anybody can sail a ship on a calm day. NFL QBs have to be guys who can make things work when things go wrong, because things always go wrong. I remember before Love's first start against KC last year, LaFleur said he wanted to see what Love does when things go wrong.

It doesn't look like Rodgers is that guy anymore. Look, if the protection was always perfect, and my receivers were Superduper, and I had a great RB, and the defense could hold people scoreless, then I could quarterback the Packers. But if there are going to be protection issues and issues with the receivers, then we're going to need somebody better than me. I reject the thinking that it's everybody else's fault.

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November 19, 2022 at 11:52 am

Except for the 'thumb injury' all the others were issues before the preseason started and most ignored them as being issues. We all saw the hand dealt, and most went all-in anyway, thinking it was a winning hand while not even holding a solid pair.
QB-WR
QB-TE
QB-OL
QB-HC
HC-RB(use)
OL-DL
DL-DB

Not a pair of Aces in the mix.

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stockholder's picture

November 19, 2022 at 12:25 pm

Let's trade Love Now. Rob Demovsky asked him. I say Trade him. Thats reason #6. #5 Age doesn't have anything to do with this.
#4. Actually this was #1. And I'll say it: It Effected his Attitude from the start. #3 Attitude- The Wrs had everything to do with this. It wasn't brought out until Kurt Warner pointed out what Rodgers saw. So again the #2 and 3 are linked. #2. Wrs- Yes he misses MVS and Adams. Even Tom Brady had trouble with his.
#1. The Thumb.= Yes Rodgers has a thumb problem. And it was brought out more because of the "COLD". Add it up and your article is just " To keep a Bomb Fire Burning."

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Oppy's picture

November 19, 2022 at 12:39 pm

Why would you trade Love instead of Rodgers?

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stockholder's picture

November 19, 2022 at 12:45 pm

He wants out. They're committed to Rodgers and he knows it. It would make it much easier for him.

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Oppy's picture

November 19, 2022 at 01:58 pm

You know who wanted out? Aaron Rodgers. Why not give him a second chance to achieve the dream? He's earned it.

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Leatherhead's picture

November 20, 2022 at 03:54 pm

This is 100% completely made up nonsense. How do you know they're committed to Rodgers after this season? How do you know Love wants out?

You don't. You're just making stuff up, as usual.

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Oppy's picture

November 20, 2022 at 05:09 pm

The Packers financially committed to Rodgers for next year.
He's right on that.

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Coldworld's picture

November 21, 2022 at 07:54 am

Money and cap is spent but the reality is it will need more to keep him. As such the commitment is a red herring. What is more relevant is that they can’t cut him only trade him, which requires a partner.

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fangirl's picture

November 19, 2022 at 12:47 pm

Both should be traded:

Rodgers to greener pastures

Love...??

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Oppy's picture

November 19, 2022 at 02:02 pm

Rodgers should be traded.

Love should be given meaningful reps the rest of the year for analysis.
What becomes of his contract should depend on the result of those evaluations.

If he shows legitimate starter promise, his fifth year option should be taken. If he doesn't, the Packers should aggressively attempt to procure QB talent this offseason..

Anything less is a detriment to the Packers for at least 4-5 years.

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GaryC's picture

November 19, 2022 at 04:23 pm

I agree. Love may not be the answer but he needs a chance to show what he can do (which effectively means a run of games). I don’t see the point of trading him now when he’s spent the years since being drafted getting familiar with the Packers system and way of doing things. I really hope he succeeds but who knows.

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Packerpasty's picture

November 19, 2022 at 07:43 pm

how many time will people say Rodgers should be traded...to who...who wants a older QB with that salary??? Easy to say hard to do...actually probably impossible...

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Coldworld's picture

November 20, 2022 at 08:47 am

It may be hard to do. That’s on Murphy and Ball for agreeing a contract that is nigh on irresponsible in its ceding of options to Rodgers. I think the “trade” comments are a reflection that only a technical trade can prevent that millstone from dragging this franchise further into the mire.

We had a very fortuitous opportunity to face reality and move forward this spring. We likely now won’t get that again as you note. At this point the era is still over and we ceded our ability to do much to stop the rot.

Right now a trade for essentially nothing is all the Packers can hope for if Rodgers doesn’t save them from themselves by calling it a day. If he doesn’t, and they can’t trade him, the nastiness in both general and cap terms has barely begun.

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Oppy's picture

November 20, 2022 at 05:14 pm

I agree, it will be hard to do, it should have happened prior, but we are where we're at now.

You attempt to get as much as you can for him, but if you have to, you move him for a pair of cleats.

The important thing is to get his contract off the books and purposefully move to the future- whoever that will be.

It doesn't matter matter what you get for Rodgers or what he might do somewhere else. The singular focus needs to be building the team of the next decade plus.

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croatpackfan's picture

November 21, 2022 at 02:06 am

I will offer ACR and 2 3rd round picks. Maybe somebody will bite the offer.

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Johnblood27's picture

November 21, 2022 at 07:38 am

Lol @ 2 3rd round picks!!! They are completely worthless in Guteys hands!!!

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jlc1's picture

November 21, 2022 at 10:29 am

I think that was the point. AR plus Gutey's 3rd rounders.

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coolhand's picture

November 19, 2022 at 04:58 pm

And ARod misses a lot of open receivers as well, like he is focused on only 1 part of the field and if the WR isn't there he doesn't know what to do. So strange for a guy that thoughout his career could find the open guy

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fangirl's picture

November 19, 2022 at 12:56 pm

Perfect world:

-Rodgers leaves for a trade

-Share-holders oust MM, board, MLF, Gute, Barry. Put an iron-clad list of regulations in place to ban future,fraudulent behavior @ the top.

-Form steering committee of knowledgeable 'shareholders' who seek out the best of the best coaches.

-Start a true-rebuild with integrity and excellence as the foundation.

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Oppy's picture

November 19, 2022 at 02:03 pm

Just another reminder, this is exactly what a small group of Packers fans attempted to set in motion when Favre was shown the door.

Those people look pretty stupid in retrospect.

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fangirl's picture

November 19, 2022 at 05:19 pm

I am trying to help. This is about an entire structure that is impacting what types of coaches are hired, who holds them accountable, how players are disciplined (or not) and so on.

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Oppy's picture

November 20, 2022 at 05:22 pm

There's probably one man who is the root of many problems in the front office, that's Mark Murphy. He is done after 2025 (Must retire or move to director emeritus at age 70), and there is little anyone on the outside can do to change that.

I don't think Brain Gutekunst is a problem, or Russ Ball (per se), or MLF.

I think football problems are largely rooted around Aaron Rodgers ego and contract.

I think Mark Murphy's central flaw is he's looking at his legacy, and while he's okay with being the man who presided over the Packers while trading away Favre, he's decided he doesn't want to be the guy who "ran out" 2 Packers HoF QB's. I think it's that simple, and his desire to avoid that legacy has motivated him to force feed decisions to his subordinates over the last few years that were not in the best interests of the GBPs long term health, but rather, were all about making sure he didn't have to be the guy who was "in charge" when someone has to tell Rodgers it's time to go.

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Johnblood27's picture

November 21, 2022 at 07:40 am

Yikes!!!

Finally someone that actually GETS IT!!!

You will be roundly criticized and hooted at, take my word for it...

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Coldworld's picture

November 21, 2022 at 08:20 am

Thinking of his legacy not of the good of the franchise that he’s paid to be custodian of? Makes me wonder what the Board is for if true. Certainly that would suggest time for a clean out there too.

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HarryHodag's picture

November 19, 2022 at 03:14 pm

1)Rodgers either retires or he returns next year. He isn't getting traded.
2) The shareholders can pressure the executive committee but shareholders don't hold instant power to oust the board. Please read the team's bylaws. BTW- the word fraudulent has been bounced around. Deceit is key to proving fraud, especially criminal fraud. I don't see deceit here. What I see are decisions that 'shareholders' can disagree with.
3) Knowledgeable shareholders are no better informed than the average bozo who follows the Packers.
4) Define a 'true rebuild'. Keep in mind any of the people you hire might be no more smart about helping the Packers achieve than the folks you hated. The Packers don't operate in a vacuum and there are 31 other teams to compete against for talent both on and off the field. Integrity and excellence are two other words tossed around like footballs. Most of the time those words don't mean much because they're shields presented by folks who are trying to B.S. everyone.

It's time to face the fact that the Packers had a bad year but it happens to every team. The team that won the last Super Bowl once was so bad they were referred to as "The Lambs". The Bengals were so bad they were "The Bungals".

It's time to rein in the vitriol and take an adult approach that while some changes need to be made the core of this team is ok and a "true rebuild" is not necessary. Texas has been rebuilding for several years, so has Jacksonville. Jacksonville has a Super Bowl winning coach and the top pick in the draft at QB and they're no closer to anything meaningful than the were before.

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Packerpasty's picture

November 19, 2022 at 07:34 pm

an adult approach!!! Whaaat? Thats not as fun as talking about Rodgers haircut or MLF looking like a cheerleader and about to cry...actually HarryH makes the most sense of anything written in weeks...its all true...unless Rodgers wants to go out after a shitty year he is the Packers QB next season...and MLF is the coach and the staff will "maybe" be the same...

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Coldworld's picture

November 20, 2022 at 09:01 am

Be careful what you wish for. That won’t be any prettier and the cap will be a whole lot uglier for longer.

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BruceC1960's picture

November 19, 2022 at 05:07 pm

Please make me a list of teams that would trade for AR. You will need a team ready to win now. They will need to have a need at QB. They will also need lots of cap space, even if the Packers eat some of his contract.

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November 19, 2022 at 07:42 pm

If i am the GM of a team ready to win now, i’m not trading for Aaron Rodgers. I want to win, not hear excuses.

Now maybe a perennial doormat would be interested in him to generate some interest in the team until they find their quarterback of the future. I I suspect that is similar to how the Packers looked at his extension (minus the doormat part).

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November 20, 2022 at 05:25 pm

I hate to say this, but what you need to find is an NFL team that is struggling to put butts in seats / sell jerseys at the pro shop.

Signing Rodgers brings cash flow.

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greengold's picture

November 21, 2022 at 12:09 pm

The Packers would benefit from working out an agreement in principle - now - to move AR to NYJ at season’s end.

I believe they’re in the perfect candidate category. Seems that kind of high profile change of scenery might be embraced by AR as well.

They are poised to win with Saleh at HC & a very solid D. A veteran QB might be very attractive to them.

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November 20, 2022 at 05:35 pm

The Packers may not get much in return for trading Rodgers at this point, and may have to pay part of his salary -- but it would still be worth it to get his stale and stifling arrogance out of the atmosphere of Green Bay, allowing fresh air to come in.

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Since'61's picture

November 20, 2022 at 08:21 am

fangirl you should be aware that the shares we have acquired during the three "sales" of shares are nothing more than glorified thank you cards for our donations to the team. Our shares do not have any actual monetary value as shareholders in a publicly traded company. Therefore as shareholders we do not have any influence or authority over how the team operates.

I posted on another thread that if our shares were actually worth anything, now would be the time to sell them off and send a message to management and the executive board. But since our shares are essentially donations to a non-profit organization we are as irrelevant as the fans of any other team in terms of taking any actions against management. As for regulations non-profit organizations are heavily regulated at the federal and state levels on how they spend their money. Thanks, Since '61

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November 20, 2022 at 05:29 pm

Well, we do technically get "voting" privileges when board seats come up, but the way the publicly available stocks are offered, we as public shareholders fail to have enough votes to sway the results.

But yeah, our stocks are just acknowledgement that we love our team enough to have made a monetary donation to the team to help them sustain themselves as the league's smallest market team.

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Leatherhead's picture

November 20, 2022 at 03:59 pm

If Rodgers leaves in a trade, fine. More probable, IMO, is that he'll retire.

Gutekunst and MLF were given contract extensions less than 4 months ago.

How exactly are the shareholders going to oust Murphy and the Board?

We already have a steering committee. It's called the Executive Board, which you want to oust.

Why rebuild? There's plenty of stuff to work with. Reload.

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November 20, 2022 at 05:47 pm

Just more FYI,

Executive Committee is 7 people (including Mark Murphy); Board of Directors is 43 people.

There's nearly 30 people who hold Director Emeritus status - including Bob Harlan - but I have no idea what level of involvement they actually have.

Notice the odd numbers.

There is nothing wrong with not having a singular owner to run a football team. If anything, it adds a layer of stability- one person's potentially erratic emotions don't decide the direction and fate of a team with the changing of the winds. All it means is that there is a vote on major decisions and the majority vote prevails.

The issue is when the board believes it can make sound FOOTBALL decisions. It's something that Bob Harlan changed in Green Bay - he convinced the board that they were to stay out of football decisions. As the President of the Packers, Harlan hired a General Manager and let the GM run all football operations as he saw fit. The board of directors would only intervene if they believed the team was on such a poor path that the GM should be replaced.

This is where the problem seemingly is in Green Bay right now. Mark Murphy has blurred the lines between executive decisions and football operations. Part of the issue is probably that Mark Murphy is both a business man, but also a man of professional and collegiate football - both as a player and administrator.

It's probably led Mark Murphy to think he's qualified to make football decisions, and honestly, he might be. However, tampering with the GM's or Coaches' vision as a 2nd or 3rd voice is not a wise course of action.

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November 21, 2022 at 07:46 am

Don't you mean The Board of Distractors" or "The Board of Detractors"?

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Coldworld's picture

November 21, 2022 at 08:33 am

The Harlen structure envisaged a full time exec who would not intervene in football decisions except in emergencies but act as as scrutiny and oversight over overall performance.

That person controls nominations to both the executive committee and the Board through that. No governance system is perfect, but that ensured that the Board and football leadership were separate and not dependent on one man with effective control if both.

For fiduciary reasons alone, the Board should never have sanctioned what Murphy did because it removed that check and balance. In effect it gave Murphy control over appointments and information to the Board and over everything the team and FO decides. That is, in my view, a breach of fiduciary duty by the board.

While that’s debatable legally (not frivolous) the main thing is to turn up the heat on the great and good. They don’t like being Persians in their businesses, clubs, places of worship. You want them to wake up? That’s how to do it in the context of this type of corporation

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Since'61's picture

November 19, 2022 at 01:01 pm

I agree that all 5 of the issues mentioned in the article are contributing factors to Rodgers inconsistent play. But the fact remains that there are deeper and more significant issues for the Packers beyond those covered in the article.

Except for the 2010 season Rodgers has never had a dominating defensive team playing with him. After the combined losses of Nick Collins, Culllen Jenkins and Charles Woodson over the course of the 2011 and 2012 seasons the Packers defense has never been dominant during Rodgers career especially during the playoffs against good OLs and strong offensive units. How many times have we watched the Packers score to keep a game close or even take a lead only to see the defense give a score back right back and usually very easily. Twice in this latest loss to the Titans just to prove the point.

Combine that with years of poor ST play and you are left with Rodgers and the offense consistently trying to overcome two of the three phases of the game against their own team.

The point is the management of the Packers has allowed this to go on for more than a decade through the TT and now Gute eras. None of our DC or ST coaches are going to be HOF candidates. But through it all Rodgers is a first ballot HOFer even with an OL that has been good to very good but never dominant even in their best seasons.

The other major factor is coaching. I thought that MM was a very good HC up until the 2014 NFCCG and the sudden loss of his younger brother only 10 days after the debacle in Seattle. I felt he was never the same after those events and by 2017 and 2018 it was obvious that he was just going through the motions. The Packers did him a favor by letting him go and giving him the chance to re-evaluate and take a fresh start with another team.

As for MLF he and his staff are clearly stuck in their past 13W -3/4L seasons. They seemed to have the delusions that by continuing to do what they've done in the past will continue to bring them success even though it obviously has not been working since early in the season. We see few adjustments on either side of the ball and repeated mistakes week after week. After the loss to the Titans MLF has all but admitted that he doesn't know what to do!?!?!?. Really!!! Then why is he still an HC in this league??? I don't think that I have ever heard an NFL coach make a comment like that before and I go back a long way.

I commented a few times before games against the Commanders, and the Lions that if Rodgers thumb is injured the Packers should sit him for a week, let the thumb heal and give a Love a chance against weaker opponents. Of course that didn't happen and Rodgers thumb is still injured and he just played 2 games in 4 days. Is the HC afraid to sit Rodgers while he is hurt or is it that the coaches and the GM have no confidence in Love or maybe a combination of both?

What we have seen is that poor offseason planning and poor decision making is resulting in a totally rudderless organization that doesn't know how to correct their mistakes and worse yet does not seem to have any sense of urgency to do so.

We are watching a team with a great QB who is no longer capable of carrying the team as he has in the past. Poor WR corps, injured OL, defensive lapses and mistakes, questionable coaching at best plus his own nagging injury. And yes his age and attitude has not helped matters any. But where is the rest of the team and more importantly what are the coaches and management doing about it?

As for 2023 I would not be surprised if Rodgers comes back because I don't see him going out with an awful season like 2022 to end his career. I can't say for certain what he'll do but I won't be surprised if comes back to make one more statement that he can still play effectively and at a high level before he walks away from the game. We'll see. Thanks, Since '61

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fangirl's picture

November 19, 2022 at 01:22 pm

Very thoughtful analysis.
I think the lack of urgency might be the result of not having an owner.

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November 19, 2022 at 03:15 pm

If the Packers had a private owner we wouldn't have them at all. They would have been sold and moved decades ago. Or we could have had Dan Snyder!

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Packerlifer's picture

November 19, 2022 at 07:24 pm

Or we could have the elderly daughter of Curly Lambeau like the Bears have the daughter of George Halas or the Lions the widow of William Clay Ford as their owners.

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GP1's picture

November 19, 2022 at 07:40 pm

Lot of terrible teams in the NFL; they all have owners.

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November 19, 2022 at 02:31 pm

Agree completely. I don’t think AR wants to go out like this. I think they should keep Love for insurance next year. Barry should have been gone 3 games ago. Offensive coordinator as well as we need some young innovative mind in his place-just not sure MLF can change his obvious schemes.
Murphy and Gute gone as well. For God’s sake lets get someone in who doesn’t pick up lousy old FAs and keeps thinking he is some kind of genius who can stock a team with draft picks.
GPG

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barutanseijin's picture

November 19, 2022 at 04:36 pm

Why would he do any better next year? He’ll be another year older. He’s guaranteed to have another nagging injury — that’s what happens when you age and play a rough game. No doubt he and his fans will have new excuses, maybe a new OC they can complain about. A receiver is likely to get hurt, he won’t have a decent TE, Jones is likely gone. Next year will be tougher in many ways.

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Since'61's picture

November 19, 2022 at 06:58 pm

I didn't say that he would better next season. I posted that I would not be surprised if he returned to play next season. Everything you say could be true. But Rodgers has played his entire career as if he has something to prove. I don't think that he will go out after such a bad season. I can see Rodgers coming back to prove that he is better than he has played this season. Rodgers would not be the first great player to stay on too long. Unitas, Starr, Montana, Marino, Favre, Brees, Rothlesberger among many others all remained in the game as their skills continued to decline. It's in their competitiveness and in their pride. They hang on for one more chance.

Maybe Rodgers won't return and that will be fine. But nothing that Rodgers does will surprise me. He has always been something of a unique character so he may just decide that it's time to move on. Or he may just keep that chip on his shoulder. Thanks, Since '61

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November 19, 2022 at 08:58 pm

That Year has come: it’s this year. Maybe he wanted to redeem himself after that ugly playoff loss last year, but everything that’s happened this year has only made him look worse.

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November 19, 2022 at 10:59 pm

Why assume that Rodgers uses your logic when he makes his decisions? Whatever decision that he makes about returning next season will be based on whether or not that he thinks that he can still play effectively. If he feels that he can't be effective or if he doesn't want to play any longer he'll retire but if he still wants to play he'll be back.

At this point anything is possible. It's all good either way. Thanks, Since '61

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Leatherhead's picture

November 20, 2022 at 04:04 pm

Since....In 2005, we were 4-12. Two years later, we were in the Championship game.

In 2008 , we won six games. Two years later, we won the Super Bowl.

In 2017 and 2018, we missed the playoffs . Then we were in the Championship game two years in a row.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Rodgers won't be back in Green Bay next year. Bringing back the MVP was one thing, but bringing back a QB who'll turn 40 and is clearly in decline is something else. We should try to appreciate his final couple of games, because it might be quite a while before we have a better QB.

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November 20, 2022 at 05:17 pm

I don't quite see it like that. I have seen a couple recent seasons where if we had a SLIGHTLY above average or even efficient QB who just took what was given and just moved the chains...We may just have another trophy.
Now that being said even with DA...we never had a legit #2 WR and honestly borderline #3 in MVS who was hurt last playoffs. That's on Gute. A lot of what the pack need is above average coaching. Our coaching is-Bad , ability to adjust-Bad, that's both sides of the ball. We only now, have a ST returner 10 Plus games in the season...that's a travesty. Teams are and have been kicking short for 2 seasons because we can't return a punt or kickoff without a miscue. I know your logic...don't return...but if it's costing us 20 yards on every kickoff and another ten or more on every punt...pretty soon you've spotted the other team a score...not to mention, momentum is real. Our offense does not move up and down the field and execute plays easily. Everything is a struggle. Our QB does not throw to all his receivers even if they ran the right route. If he did we would have beaten SF in the playoffs. We don't have 3 years for AR to get snuggly with our new WR's. He's the bigger problem in the mix, as good as he can be he has is issues and they loom large in the success of this team.

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November 19, 2022 at 06:40 pm

This right here! Thank you Since '61.

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November 19, 2022 at 07:39 pm

like HarryHodag this is another excellent post.....

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GVPacker's picture

November 20, 2022 at 07:07 am

Since 61 I always thought Ted Thompson dropped the ball when he hired MM!
Sean Payton Interviewed for the job In 2005 and I honestly think Payton would still be coaching the Packers today
If he was hired. McCarthy and Lafleur's Inability to hire quality DC & Special Team's coaches are a statement
of their Incompetence! I'm thinking Payton would have had the luxury of having two HOF QB's would have resulted In at least two more Super Bowl championships!

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November 20, 2022 at 08:57 am

GVPacker - we will never know how Payton would have played out as the Packers HC. I would have been fine if TT had chosen Payton over MM. However Payton, who is an excellent coach, had Drew Brees and the Saints, like the Packers, only won one SB with Drew Brees.

I also felt that Payton was badly tainted by the "bounty" scandal and I was disappointed that he did nothing to stop it.

I do agree that he made better choices in hiring his coordinators than either MM or MLF.

I've always believed that we would have had at least one more SB if Holmgren had remained in Green Bay rather than moving on to Seattle. As for MM he had his best chance for another SB in 2014. The defense collapsed and lost a 12 point lead in about 2 minutes of playing time and then allowed a third consecutive TD in OT to lose the game. If Payton was the Packers HC for that game would the Packers have won? We'll just never know.
Thanks, Since '61

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Ferrari-Driver's picture

November 19, 2022 at 01:16 pm

You make me think Rodgers is playing about half a well as he played when he received the $50 million per year contract. Perhaps the quarterback should return about $25 million to the Packers so they can shore up the weaknesses...and the cow jumped over the moon.

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fangirl's picture

November 19, 2022 at 01:25 pm

You would have to ask for refunds from Jaire, Rasul, Campbell and others as well.

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November 19, 2022 at 01:27 pm

I don't see the competence w/in the coaching staff to make an adequate plan. MLF seems like such a nice person and I don't enjoy criticizing him but, though he is working overtime, he just doesn't seem to be able to do more. It's painful to watch. But, this is a multi-million dollar enterprise which is hemorrhaging $$$ and taking a major hit reputationally.

This is a crisis----is anybody home??

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LeotisHarris's picture

November 19, 2022 at 04:32 pm

fangirl, is drastic action being taken to remedy the Golden State Warriors freefall or does ownership just intend to ride Steph Curry to eek out wins over the Knicks? Could any of your time be better spent organizing the masses in the Bay Area to storm HQ and demand trades to right the ship? Forbes values the franchise at $7 billion (WITH A B) and here you sit pining for safe harbor for Aaron Rodgers and directing Packers' fans to rise up. What will the franchise valuation be next season after the Warriors fail to make the playoffs due to fans sitting on their hands?

The more of your posts I read, the more I have to ask ---- is anybody home?

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Rarescope's picture

November 19, 2022 at 05:29 pm

Why do you think they are hemorrhaging money? They pay a few players a lot (many would say too much) but they have the same salary cap as any team. I learned when I did a stadium tour that they were in serious financial trouble I think in the early 00s but it sounded like the stadium improvements were helping to generate revenue when games aren’t being played and they just did another stock issue. Should have plenty of money.

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BAMABADGER's picture

November 19, 2022 at 02:33 pm

Need to consider the potential negative impact to his mental health and decision making using Ayahuasca.

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LLCHESTY's picture

November 20, 2022 at 04:25 pm

Or the mental impact of being continually hung up on it.

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Rebecca's picture

November 20, 2022 at 06:05 pm

Up! 🤣

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Gman1976's picture

November 19, 2022 at 02:43 pm

#6 (as expressed by commentators above): Coaching. I still shake my head from the lack of leadership last season when the Packer management wouldn’t put its foot down and let go of the special teams until after the season and costing us a trip to the Super Bowl, and taking forever to cut AM who fumbled time and time again this season. ‘61 nailed it (as well as many others) for the lack of in game adjustments by the coaching staff. Leadership that rewards consistent failure will fail. Loyalty and being a nice guy are great traits, but not if those traits keep the leadership from making decisions that will right the ship.

Tough decisions to make now: (1) Replace the DC who has done so little with so much. (2) Replace WR SW who isn’t getting the job done and preventing a rookie from growing. (3) Replace our kicker who doesn’t have the leg strength anymore. I prefer the changes now rather than have to do them at the of the season. “It’s not personal, it’s business.”

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barutanseijin's picture

November 19, 2022 at 04:22 pm

Never mind the putrid, sub-JimmyGee level quarterbacking, it’s all on special teams. Another excuse for another shitty playoff performance from 12.

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Packerpasty's picture

November 19, 2022 at 07:42 pm

draft Moody from UofM..if possible...best kicker in a long time coming out...

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jannes bjornson's picture

November 20, 2022 at 11:27 am

No doubt, he can handle the weather.

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PhantomII's picture

November 20, 2022 at 05:33 pm

Maybe use a 3rd rounder....Maybe we will have a 3 that will work out.

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Littlejim51's picture

November 19, 2022 at 11:34 pm

I agree with your article yet In professional sports I only judge athletes on their abilities or lack of ability. Everything else is subjective

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bjkdad44's picture

November 20, 2022 at 07:57 am

This is THE BEST comment of this thread! Excellent… and to the point!!!

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Johnblood27's picture

November 21, 2022 at 07:57 am

Tataglia??? Tataglia is a pimp!!! It was Barzini all along!!!

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Packers0808's picture

November 19, 2022 at 02:56 pm

Can't prove anything but heard from a good source who knows Packers players supposedly let it accidently slip that Rodgers thumb is actually fractured. Hearsay but the way he has played and thrown the ball sure rings true! Always a million rumors but this sounds pretty correct!

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fangirl's picture

November 19, 2022 at 04:50 pm

I'm an RN and his thumb would, @ the very least be in a splint and not in use for 6-8 weeks if it was fractured.

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November 19, 2022 at 05:13 pm

If that is the case why did or was able that Favre played a whole season practically with a broken thumb? BTW Favre played with a splint on the broken thumb and won playoff games that way. Just because you say you are an RN doesn't always mean much in some cases! Hope you know medicine better than history of Packer football!

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fangirl's picture

November 19, 2022 at 06:21 pm

Rodgers himself has not talked about a fracture-there would have bleeding (internal) and
bruising-sheesh

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Packers0808's picture

November 19, 2022 at 07:08 pm

Yup he is going to tell the whole league what he is playing with. Ok sheez!

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Coldworld's picture

November 20, 2022 at 08:56 am

Looking at the TV closeup, and the bandage, I very much doubt it’s a fracture, from personal experience. No swelling or bruising visible, the strapping looks more aimed at a soft tissue issue at the base.

That said, we don’t know for certain and, for what it’s worth, I don’t believe that the thumb would explain some of the issues. Many of which look to me like a man trying to force things to happen when his Head coach is trying hard to give him nothing but short options.

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Packerlifer's picture

November 19, 2022 at 07:15 pm

And in that 1999 season, after 3 straight MVP seasons, Favre didn’t play well and the Packers had an 8-8 non-playoff year.

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Spock's picture

November 20, 2022 at 09:24 am

Favre played like crap with that splinted thumb and, for the good of the team, should have let his backup (I believe it was the very capable Matt) play QB instead. I will always believe that Favre not only wanted to continue his "iron man" games played record as well as knowing that when he came in for the injured "Magic Man" the starter never came back. It was painful to watch those five yard wobbly passes being easily intercepted. I think you're having a bit of a "revisionist vision" of Favre's play that year.

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November 20, 2022 at 01:32 pm

If what you wrote was pointed at me, you need to reread what I wrote. I never ONCE mentioned how good or bad he played, just that he played that way with the splint and thumb problem. I think you should if that is the case quit thinking what others are supposedly thinking. Don't put words in other folks mouths! And Rodgers is playing like crap with that thumb, so there you go!

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November 20, 2022 at 04:27 pm

Favre as terrible that year, had no velocity or accuracy. He should have been taken out and rested until it was healed but by then he did what he wanted.

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davekenya's picture

November 20, 2022 at 03:10 pm

One stat that may support 'something is going on with the thumb' - that is independent of quality of age, WRs, coaching, attitude -- but possibly impacted by O-line (if his 'under pressure' stats are considerably up this year -- I don't know that) is:

In his first three seasons alongside Matt LaFleur, Rodgers had four fumbles in 2019, four in 2020 and three in 2021. That’s 11. He might fumble 11 times this season with his seven through 11 games. That’s sixth-most in the NFL. This seems to indicate a real 'thumbthing' versus anything else...

I'm not saying his performance drop is ONLY due to 'thumb', but it may indeed be a real contributing factor to some degree...

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GP1's picture

November 19, 2022 at 07:43 pm

if you play; you have declared yourself fit to play.If you are not fit to play; don't declare that you are.

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Pantz_Burp's picture

November 20, 2022 at 06:11 pm

Exactly, if your thumb on your throwing hand resembles a big ol' mushroom....well, just sit and namaste......

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Johnblood27's picture

November 21, 2022 at 08:00 am

you do not understand a competitors mindset at all.

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barutanseijin's picture

November 19, 2022 at 04:14 pm

Even Rodgers admits that he needs to throw the ball better. There’s no hiding it. Not even with a 5 point list of excuses.

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stinkycheesehead's picture

November 19, 2022 at 04:22 pm

MLF needs to grow a set and discipline AR this shit has gone too far, too late now but time for the bench. 50 mil a year and he's acting like a spoiled little brat. Time to put in love and see what he can DO or NOT. Too bad us owners or fans don't have a say. This shit has gone on far too long! Our season is totally done like it or NOT.

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November 19, 2022 at 04:38 pm

Gil, I gave you up vote for your effort.

At some points I agree with you, at some do not. Point 5. for me is more important than you take in consideration. All his inacurate or bad throws was before he injured his thumb. I see on packers.com clip from TC where ACR was throwing 30 yards to the net. And he failed twice in the row. Contrary to that Jordan Love balls was spot on (or in the net). Also, I remember reports from earler seasons when those throws rarely went off. So, he still has enough strength in his arm to throw the ball far, but those throws aren't always as accurate as they used to be.

Leader of the team (at least on the offense) should not try to teach others how he sees things and what he wants from them, but to listen to others what they like to do and adapt himself to that for the sake of the team. He is the one with huge talent. Start from there. Understand how your team mates see field, what they like to do, what kind of ball they prefere to catch. Learn playbook and insist on running the right routes, but keep in mind what you learned from team mates. Helping them, you'll help ypurself. Your team mates will respect you more than when you push them to play on the way they are not either capable or willing. Do not put them in the situation not to know whom to listen - their coaches or you.

And, your No. 1 point - if that thumb is so badly injured, what will be the difference in record if they played Jordan Love, let say vs Lions. Packers lose, you said. I said they lost by not playing Jordan Love. Heal his thumb so that he can not use it as excuse.

EDIT: I forget to add point 4. We have one QB who is obviously greater QB than ACR. He playe whole season, last season with non existing OL, still he led the team to SB. Little Joe Burrow. Yes, people, he did that. And he did not cry about his OL. Others did. Not him. He adapted to the problem and found solution to solve it. That is the elite QB.

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GilMartin's picture

November 19, 2022 at 04:41 pm

Thanks and I agree with you on the leadership. It’s so frustrating

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Coldworld's picture

November 20, 2022 at 09:03 am

That’s an extremely nice way to put it.

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Rarescope's picture

November 19, 2022 at 05:13 pm

I figured it out! It’s shear genius! So here’s what happened:

1. Mgmt realized that Jordan Love was a mistake.
2. But they still had a qb playing at mvp level so they would be stuck drafting at the end of the first round, unable to get a top talent young qb.

So they came up with an audacious plan!
1. Offer Rodgers so much money that he would buy into throwing the season. Blame it on a mysterious chronic injury that might or might not be a problem and get an aging WR from outside the team who can run the wrong routes.
2. No one can accuse them of throwing games because they just did everything they could to keep Rodgers around.
3. Match this with hiring a coaching staff that is plausibly good but actually you know will be way out of their depth.
4. Voila! You just threw the season while looking like you are trying to do everything you can to turn things around. Yeah the fans suffer through an awful season, but then you draft the best qb out there in the next draft and none the wiser.

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Packerpasty's picture

November 19, 2022 at 07:50 pm

well number 3 is spot on for sure!! Good conspiracy theory!!

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Pantz_Burp's picture

November 19, 2022 at 11:43 pm

Wow, Rare...stranger things have happened... :)

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November 20, 2022 at 09:02 am

And according to the thumbs down more people on this site don’t have a sense of humor than do. Sounds about right from what I’ve observed.

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November 19, 2022 at 07:47 pm

The fact that MLF actually admits he doesn't know what happened or what to do about it is pretty scary considering he is the head coach...looking at him, do you think he can fire up any of these players?? Not me..I don't think so..nice guy though...

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November 19, 2022 at 11:03 pm

5 reasons for #12's inconsistent play: his 4 fingers and a thumb...which are connected to his brain (ego) and his heart (desire...Bueller, Bueller...anyone ...).

I would be one of #12s staunchest allies if he would have the same desire (combined with putting the work in with the team) to be the best. I am tired of finger pointing so I only go to the eye test since I have no idea what goes on behind closed doors at 1265. My eyes tell me #12 isn't in it to win it, he appears to view himself as a savior to a franchise that quite frankly he needs the Packers more than we need him. About all that trade talk about trading #12 last year for a bunch of draft picks...does anyone REALLY know if any trade was offered for #12? I think we are over-valueing him.

I will always be grateful to him when he helped win all those games and a Superbowl. Is the most tenured player in Packer history. Yes, all that and I wish him well. Leave, retire...play for another team. I wish him well, I truly do. And I truly want him off the roster. It makes no sense financially for the Packers but he wore out his welcome with me about 3 years ago. He is no leader, at least not a good one in my eyes. Until he leaves, we will be searching for a winning team identity. That, or someone in charge needs to take charge.

Go Pack Go! Go #12, please....just go...

You have a right to be happy. You appear to really not want to be in Green Bay and are unhappy. Go find a team you like and see if you can help facilitate a trade.

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November 20, 2022 at 09:07 am

That about sums it up for me too - but it took a bit longer to wear out his welcome. If he still plays next year I’ll be hoping this year was an injury related fluke though.

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Pantz_Burp's picture

November 20, 2022 at 09:15 am

Rare, if I was a hugging guy (which I am) and you were a hugging guy (not sure?), I would give you a big ol' Bear (not Chicago!) hug! :)

Regarding next year, and being out of our control..
I do agree with you. Better days ahead...at least at some point. If #12 is still on the roster, I will wish him good health and an injury free season for him but more importantly, for the team.

Now, get out of your Bob the Builder onezy Rare and take a big cHoMp out of the day...you wild a crazy wabbit...👌👍✌️

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ArlenWilliams's picture

November 19, 2022 at 11:13 pm

Well said. I'll offer a potential #6.

The way Rodgers has trained himself is to emphasize hitting the #1 receiver in just the right place at just the right time, or doing a check-down if necessary to #2; then it's scramble and make-do time. He has missed open receivers numerous times apparently do to this ingrained habit.

This group of receivers may be better served by the quarterback being more inclined to scan the entire field as quickly as possible and just hitting the man that's the deepest and especially, the most open.

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November 20, 2022 at 08:09 am

I'm going to make a bold prediction. But only if Rodgers is the QB! The Eagles will beat the packers. RODGERS then will win their last games getting them in the play-offs.

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November 20, 2022 at 09:30 am

That is bold Stock.

I am going to make a bald prediction...my receding hairline will not stop receding in the Pack's next games.

*Please, don't feel sorry for me...I still have my bELLy. My knickname was Big Sexy. When I wear sunglasses, I look like a Volkswagen with a tinted windshield. I wouldn't have it any other way...not bragging, well, hell..I suppose I am. They say you are what you eat, but I don't recall eating a frickin' genius for breakfast. You replace Hasselholf running at the beach in Baywatch with me. No one, would really know the difference....except for my saggy pecs which are now looking like old mudflaps and my belly which still bounces like a Bumble looong after I stop moving.

My Pet Rock still loves me, so there!

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

November 20, 2022 at 03:50 pm

Love it!

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4thand10's picture

November 20, 2022 at 12:31 pm

1) no off season, preseason with new WRs. I’m sorry but MVS, EQ we’re not world beaters…#4s on most teams. Lazard is a #3 on most teams. I’m sorry but that’s just the reality.Instead, the 50 million dollar man chose to drink tea.
2) LaFluer gave Rodgers too much imput. offense looked very McCarthyish in 3/4 of the games. In other words LaFluer has no leash on the tea drinking guy. Sadly,Nothing I have seen from Love screams NFL QB, hopefully I’m wrong.

3) Off-season coordination changes combined with little to no off-season work…cause the 50 million QB wasn’t there.

4) Not getting another TE….which is a huge roll in a MLF normal offense…big dog has no more speed, good blocker but not speed. Tonyan is not an all pro TE….Everything we’ve seen is all we are ever going to see.

5) I’m not sure if it’s the OL or the play calling, I’m suspecting a bit of both because i didn’t see a lot of issues with Yosh Nijman playing LT last year. And as others have mentioned….the run is not being used to set up the pass which helps an aging QB.

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PackerGravy's picture

November 20, 2022 at 03:38 pm

1. IOWASKA
2. Witch Lady
3. Thumb
4. Attitude
5. Attitude

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Rebecca's picture

November 20, 2022 at 06:38 pm

I just want to see a no-excuses complete team effort and a win each week. Nothing less.

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canadapacker's picture

November 20, 2022 at 11:09 pm

I want to know the 5 Reasons that the following QB's are where they are - Matthew Stafford 3-7 Derek Carr 3-7 Russell Wilson 3-7 Matt Ryan 4-6-1 Tom Brady 5-5 Are these not all the best and highest paid as well. And I forgot Goff and Kyler Murray 4-6

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Lphill's picture

November 21, 2022 at 06:33 am

according to some here , Rodgers is the only QB to miss an open receiver or make a poor throw.

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SwedeBayPacker's picture

November 21, 2022 at 04:00 am

"David Bakhtiari has missed three games and parts of several others. His status for any game is up in the air because of his knee injury that is still not fully right after almost two years. "

And yet, despite his age and history of injuries, the Packers didn't hesitate to make him the highest paid LT in the League. So now we're here, paying top dollar for another player that's a shadow of himself and who can't stay on the field. In all honesty, one of the most boneheaded decisions in recent Packers memory.

I mean the Rodgers contract is another brainfart, but he was at least (somewhat) worth the money when they signed the contract...

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stockholder's picture

November 21, 2022 at 06:58 am

It would be a bigger mistake to pay Loves next year. 20 mil. plus .

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Coldworld's picture

November 21, 2022 at 08:50 am

They won’t pay Love that (and it’s the year after next). He’s still cheap next year. They will offer him a new contract or trade him. Only established QBs merit pay based in that if the highest paid at that position.

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Johnblood27's picture

November 21, 2022 at 08:11 am

hey dipstick, check dates and timelines before you rant on something completely WRONG!!!!!

Bakh got his deal while still healthy, THEN he had the worst luck ever to get all f'ed up in a stoopid practice!!!

The Packers didn't F up on Bakh's contract because of his injury, his injury F'ed up the Packers contract with him. Although you could question the wisdom of making him the highest paid OL ever... Is any OL worth that much of the cap?

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Coldworld's picture

November 21, 2022 at 08:54 am

They gambled on an older elite player who had been healthy. It seemed reasonable at the time, though I was dubious about the wisdom given the length. Unfortunately fate screwed up the gamble.

There is a difference between gambling on quality (Bakh) and gsm ing despite the lack of it (Rodgers and this roster). The first was a reasonable risk, the latter one of the most idiotic.

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PhantomII's picture

November 21, 2022 at 06:57 pm

Stuff happens. If Gute learns anything from this: maybe do the contract after the season. That would have changed everything for the better financially...In this case at least. I would never pay any player that wanted to be highest paid at any position. GB paid JA highest paid money after he missed nearly entire season...then DC does not even play him against opposing teams best WR....That should have been reigned in from Barry immediately.

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November 21, 2022 at 06:28 pm

Aaron Rodgers took ownership of his poor play by saying, "I threw some wobblers...just missed a few throws I should have had.” Should have had. In other words, they were poor throws. I respect Rodgers taking ownership. This wasn't the first game in which he's made bad throws and missed throws a good quarterback makes. He's been critical of his teammates but only after giving them a lot of slack. He's praised them as well. The truth is that we can only guess as to the reasons why he's had such a steep drop-off, although this list probably contains most of them, even if fans quibble with the order. This is a team game. Rodgers probably got too much of credit when things were going well and now he's getting too much of the blame. Many fans thought the defence would be better this year. It certainly hasn't been as good as many predicted or hoped for. True, some of that is being on the field so much because the offence has also struggled to stay on the field many games. As others have suggested already, the Pack should run the ball more and give Dillon and Jones at least 15-20 touches a game. It will be interesting to see how the Packers finish the season, whether the young receivers can improve enough for Rodgers to stick around. I don't see the Packers playing Love unless Rodgers gives the green light and I'm not sure Gutekunst or ML even asks him.

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