Hello Wisconsin: 5 Reasons the Packers Can Beat the Chiefs with Jordan Love

Don't rule out the Packers just because Aaron Rodgers isn't playing.

I’m sure I don’t need to recap for anyone on this site the news from Wednesday. Aaron Rodgers has COVID and he’s unvaccinated.

I’ve already wasted enough energy on this subject, and don’t really wish to rehash my feelings any further on the reports. So instead, I’m going to focus on what lies ahead for this team: a date at Arrowhead Stadium with the Kansas City Chiefs and a struggling Patrick Mahomes.

Unless Jordan Love completes the Packers QB trifecta and tests positive himself, he’s going to be getting his first career start on Sunday against Kansas City. 

This is actually a great opportunity for Love. The team is 7-1, is getting a lot of its key components back, and is in a situation where this game doesn’t really mean a whole lot. Obviously you want to win every game, but if you have to lose a game, you want it to be a non conference game so it doesn’t affect seeding tiebreakers come playoff time.

Last week, the Packers were playing with house money on the road against the league’s top team without many of its crucial contributors. This week, once again, they’re playing with house money on the road against what should be a top team in the league without its most crucial contributor.

There’s nothing to lose here, which takes a whole lot of pressure off Love. He can just come out and sling it. 

And I truly believe this is a game the Packers can still win.

Here are a few reasons why.

#1: Matt LaFleur’s best game plans come in the face of adversity.

It feels like every time the Packers face an adverse situation or a game that they have no business winning, Matt LaFleur pulls out all the stops with his game planning.

I mean, just take last week’s game as an example. Or the fact that the Packers are 7-0 without the best receiver in the league in the LaFleur era. Or last year’s romp in the snow against the Tennessee Titans when everyone wrote the team off as dead in the water for that game.

Someone said this on Twitter on Wednesday, and I couldn’t agree more: I’m far more confident with Love in a LaFleur offense than I ever was with Brett Hundley in a Mike McCarthy offense.

#2: The team is getting back many of its key contributors

Marquez Valdes-Scantling is back from the IR. Ostensibly the team will have Adams and Allen Lazard in the lineup. We might even get a return of David Bakhtiari, who knows? 

Love isn’t going to be working with a bare cupboard. For the first time, we’re going to see him with a full complement of starters and high-level players, rather than a group of backups and guys who probably won’t even make the team. 

#3: This Chiefs defense is BAAAAAAAD.

Don’t listen to the smoke Aaron Jones was blowing in his Wednesday press conference. This Chiefs team could well be the worst in the league, and in fact could even be at historical levels of bad.

If ever there were a first time to get your NFL start, this is it. You’re not going to find a softer defense to get your introduction to real live NFL football.

#4: Patrick Mahomes is not himself.

It’s really difficult to watch what’s become of Mahomes this year. For the record, I still believe Mahomes is a top 3 player in the league at any position. He’s clearly going through some kind of slump at the moment.

It’s really strange. Mahomes has been incredibly fortunate with his turnover luck in the last several years, true, but to see that luck change so drastically has been wild. And it’s not just bad luck, either--it feels like Mahomes is trying to do way too much to carry this team, when in the past his improvisation has still come within the structure of the offense. 

I’m not sure if it’s the pressure of having a horrendous defense or what, but something’s not right with Mahomes, and it gives the Packers a better chance this weekend.

#5: The team will lean on the running game.

Matt LaFleur is not going to make Love drop back and pass 50 times… or at least, I hope not. The Packers are going to have to lean on their running game more this week, and it just so happens that the offense is at its most effective when the team does exactly that.

Aaron Jones absolutely WENT OFF the last time the Packers played in Kansas City (2019). Between Jones and Dillon, expect there to be a whole lot of production out of the Packers’ backs against a bad defense.

And if this team can get the ground game going and control the clock, there’s no reason to think they can’t win the game.

So there you have it. Five reasons the team can beat the Chiefs this weekend with Jordan Love under center. Will they actually achieve this? My prediction is at the end of the column, as always.

Wisconsin Beer of the Week

Today I’ve got another entry from Central Waters Brewing Company, one of Wisconsin’s better breweries. They’re based out of Amherst in central Wisconsin, but recently opened their new Milwaukee tap room as well, which I’m hoping to get out to check out one of these days here.

Today’s featured beer is Salty Dog, a traditional gose that comes in with ane extremely low 5 IBU, and a pleasant 6 percent ABV. Salty Dog is a sour ale brewed with grapefruit and sea salt.

It’s definitely got a bit of a harsh first taste--that grapefruit and salt flavor really is aggressive on the tongue. But it finishes with a sweet, pleasant favor.

If you’re new to sour ales, this is a good one to try first. It’s got a very fruit-forward flavor without being too funky or yeasty, which you’d expect from wild ales or aged farmhouse ales. It’s light and crisp with just enough sourness to give a balance between being pleasant and making you pucker.

I picked this up at the brewery at the Black Gold release several weeks ago, so I’m not sure about distribution. Central Waters distributes all over the state and their beers are generally easy to find. It should also be on tap at both the Amherst and Milwaukee tap rooms.

Give it a look and try something new!

If the Packers DO win this week…

...You may as well just hand Matt LaFleur the trophy on the field after the game is over. Seriously. The team would be 8-1 despite averaging placing at least one player on IR every week of the season. They would have gone into Arizona and beat the top team in the league on a short week without a massive number of starters. They would have beaten Kansas City on the road without Aaron Rodgers. 

Regardless of how the rest of the season turns out, that’s an unreal resume for any coach. 

The fact that LaFleur hasn’t even been in any of the conversations in the national media is just unthinkable. What more does he have to do to start getting some national respect? I understand not wanting to consider him the league’s best coach without a ring, but the guy doesn’t get any recognition at all despite having the all-time best coaching record after 40 games. 

Dude deserves a tremendous amount of praise, and if they pull it off this weekend, he should get the hardware.

NFL referees are worse than ever

We see it every single week, and I’ve harped on it over and over on Twitter and in various other articles I’ve written. But it’s worth mentioning once again that I’m not sure we’ve ever seen a worse refereeing product on the field, outside of the replacement ref fiasco in 2012. 

It’s hard to understand exactly what has caused this precipitous slide. I’m not sure if it’s the league attempting to over-legislate the game, a turnover of long-time refs resulting in turbulence as new ones ascend to higher positions, or what the deal is.

But it’s a problem the league has to confront sooner or later. It’s damaging the integrity of the game when every single week there are questionable-at-best decisions by refs that are influencing the momentum and outcomes of football games.

When viewers can quickly discern the correct call either based on the television camera angle or from the replay angles, it makes one question what the point of having on-field referees even is.

We already have an off-site replay official who issues rulings on challenges. At what point do we decide to use the technology available to us and take a lot of the subjectivity out of refereeing?

It’s one thing to miss the occasional call. But right now, it feels that refs are going beyond missing calls and purposefully inserting themselves into the action of the game.

This might feel like hyperbole, but I keep coming back to the time a couple years ago when the NFL changed instant replay rules to allow pass interference calls to be reviewable. Al Riveron (former senior VP of officiating) and the referees were so salty about this rule change that they refused to overturn any pass interference calls, no matter how obvious it was that the overturn needed to happen. They did this specifically to spite the league.

The one instance that stands out where an overturn did happen, it was an overturn that went against the New Orleans Saints--the team that prompted the rule change to begin with.

Clearly we’re dealing with a petty crew that doesn’t like having its subjective calls questioned. That was a clear case of referees going rogue that showcases the human element of refereeing has a detrimental effect in more ways than just missing calls on the field.

The time has come for a fundamental shift in how the NFL handles its officiating. It’s becoming extremely difficult to watch the refball playing out week in and week out around the league.

Around the NFC North

Here we go once again around the NFC North leading into week nine.

-The CHICAGO BEARS got all the evidence they need on Sunday that Matt Nagy needs to be fired. It wasn’t a perfect outing by any means, but Justin Fields played his best football and the Bears didn’t look completely irredeemable on offense. Every day they keep Nagy employed is a mistake. But it’s a mistake I will happily accept.

-The DETROIT LIONS were actually getting picked to beat the Eagles this past week, which of course meant it was inevitable they’d lose 44-6. This team STINKS. I genuinely don’t know how they win a single game this year. Goff is far worse than one could have predicted and there’s basically nothing in place to even give them a shot at winning a game. What an embarrassment.

-The MINNESOTA VIKINGS went full Vikings against Dallas in primetime. Poor clock management by Mike Zimmer. Abysmal offense, especially after the first quarter. They allowed a no-name backup tight end to take the team down the field and score a game-winning drive in their own stadium. The end of the Zimmer era is coming, and things may get worse before they get better for the Vikings. 

Tell us where you’re from using food

There was a great thing going around Twitter earlier this week where you were supposed to provide four photos of food as a way of telling your followers where you’re from.

Being a product of southeast Wisconsin, there were plenty of choices I could make, but ultimately I chose photos of a Wisconsin fish fry (complete with potato pancakes, of course), bratwurst with sauerkraut, fried cheese curds, and the creme de la creme, Black Bear Soda.

Now, I’ve previously gone on an extended rant about the deliciousness that was Jolly Good soda (and still is, as I was surprised to find out--the soda is making a slow and steady comeback). Jolly Good was definitely a Wisconsin staple as a kid, but Black Bear was an even more hyper-local treat.

The Black Bear plant was in Saint Francis when I was a child, then they moved their operations to Oak Creek. Unfortunately, the Oak Creek operation closed down in 2017 after some 90 years of operation, mostly by the Caruso family. 

However, while the bottling company is closed, the brand is still in existence-- at least according to a September 2017 article from the Milwaukee Record. 

I remember going to DeMarini’s Pizza on the south side as a kid and getting Black Bear Blue Raspberry or Black Cherry soda with my sausage/mushroom/onion pizza. 

Anyway, I’m rambling. The point of all this was to say: if you had to choose four foods to represent where you’re from, what would you say?

It’s a long season.

I understand the angst and frustration surrounding the Aaron Rodgers news yesterday, I really do. I got sucked into it myself, and still find myself quite disappointed in Rodgers’ decision making. 

From a football perspective, though, i think it’s worth nothing that Rodgers’ positive test isn’t really going to affect much this season.

At the moment, Rodgers would be eligible to come back in time for the Seahawks game, assuming everything goes well and he passes the necessary number of tests to get there. He’ll miss out on practice time, but if Rodgers is available he’s going to play, no matter what amount of prep work he gets.

Even if he ends up missing two games, it doesn’t really do much to affect the Packers’ possibility of winning a championship this season.

Now, that being said, keep in mind AJ Dillon missed more than a month from COVID after-effects last fall, before anyone was vaccinated. Hopefully Rodgers is fortunate and does not fall ill, not just for football, but for his own personal health.

So outrageously poor decision making on Rodgers’ part aside, those who are worried about how this all will affect the Packers’ season can take a step back and breathe for a moment.

Prediction for Packers vs. Chiefs

This just feels once again like another situation where nobody is going to give the Packers a chance in hell, and the team is going to come out and surprise a lot of people with their performance.

Will Jordan Love have his “Dallas Cowboys 2007” moment? Will the team rally around a backup in a difficult situation and keep a tough road game competitive?

It helps that the Chiefs have an awful defense and that Patrick Mahomes is not at all looking like himself. Right now, even without Aaron Rodgers, I think the Packers are playing strong enough football to be able to go into Kansas City and get a win.

So screw it. Against all odds, Packers move to 8-1 even without their franchise quarterback.

Packers 24, Chiefs 20

 

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Tim Backes is a lifelong Packer fan and a contributor to CheeseheadTV. Follow him on Twitter @timbackes for his Packer takes, random musings and Untappd beer check-ins.

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Doug_In_Sandpoint's picture

November 04, 2021 at 06:11 am

Reason number six…Steven Wirtel, long snapper.

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Razer's picture

November 04, 2021 at 07:07 am

Wirtel is our superpower

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dobber's picture

November 04, 2021 at 08:11 am

Wirtel sounds like a Pokemon...

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Coldworld's picture

November 04, 2021 at 09:10 am

Better forgotten?

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PeteK's picture

November 04, 2021 at 10:40 am

hahahaha

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Swisch's picture

November 04, 2021 at 11:12 am

So many of our hopes and dreams for the Packers center around Steve Wirtel.
How's that for a snappy rejoinder?

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Cubbygold's picture

November 04, 2021 at 06:26 am

Being able to evaluate Love in real games is incredibly valuable for what will be a franchise altering decision this off-season. I'm so glad they don't have to make that call using preseason and practice reps.

MLF is this teams most valuable asset, and this mini window into what he can do without Rodgers will be fascinating. A win this week is just icing on the cake.

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murf7777's picture

November 04, 2021 at 07:54 am

I can’t wait for this game. Four of us are heading to KC this morning for the game. I’m so excited to see how Love will do. Although, something Tim didn’t mention is how loud it gets in Arrowhead Stadium and that can make it very difficult, especially for a young QB to; hear the play call, keep calm, audible and keep others from moving before the snap. This isn’t an easy place for a veteran QB, much less ones first start. That said, it would be a great place to shine and show your value. I have a good feeling bout this game:)

My friend called Packers Pro Shop and ordered 4 - Love Jerseys and is having them sent to our Airbnb home for the weekend. We will be there in full force rooting for our Packers and Love. I’m hoping to see a lot of Packer fans there showing support for our Team…… Go Pack Go!

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BigZ's picture

November 04, 2021 at 05:59 pm

You're not the only one rooting for this guy!

Imagine if he at least is good... or maybe even great? You could open a salt mine on all the Vikings, Bears and Lions fan pages!

But will he be good, to great? Who knows, I'm just here to enjoy the ride.

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ApplesAndTons's picture

November 04, 2021 at 06:19 pm

seriously....never seen so much Love on the NFCN beats

should be as interesting as learning Packers Mark Murphy is in the Packers HOF!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Murphy_(safety,_born_1958)

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Crankbait's picture

November 04, 2021 at 06:45 am

Totally agree. This is the season of the second string quarterback. Packers can pound the ball and control the clock. Rogers can rest his 38 year old arm. Win-win.

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PatrickGB's picture

November 04, 2021 at 08:19 am

For so many decades the Packers have relied on our starting QB to win the game for us. But sooner or later every team has to rely on its backup QB. I am old enough to remember Bart had Zeke as his backup and the team would do ok. Right now I am confident that our defense will do well and that Love can be a game manager type player if he doesn’t revert to throwing interceptions like his last year in college.

I wasn’t born in Wisconsin but spent much of my youth there. I fondly remember Jolly Good Soda and fish fry’s. Of course I also love cheese grits and shrimp from my time here in South Carolina.

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Irish_Cheesehead's picture

November 04, 2021 at 09:25 am

Love’s supporting cast should be a wee bit better than what he played with his senior year in college.

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mnbadger's picture

November 04, 2021 at 12:39 pm

Tim, great article as usual, Will definitely try the CWB Salty Dog.
PatrickGB - agree on Jolly Good. As a diabetic, it was diet black cherry for me
Weiners and Sauerkraut the second Saturday of every September
VanHoltens Pickles
Miller Beer
Friese's sugar coated jelly donuts. I wasn't diagnosed till I was 12!
Oops, that's five, but they all point directly to my home town as a kid. GPG!

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dobber's picture

November 04, 2021 at 08:51 am

I think we've all taken our pokes at #12 the last day or so, and his getting some rest is a rare plus here. For the sake of my favorite team in any sport, here's hoping his symptoms are mild, there's nothing that runs longer term, and that he's back with the team ASAP.

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NickPerry's picture

November 04, 2021 at 07:07 am

"I’m sure I don’t need to recap for anyone on this site the news from Wednesday. Aaron Rodgers has COVID and he’s unvaccinated."

I'm sorry Tim but I do. I didn't leave a comment yesterday other than leaving a reply for marpag1 that his comment was the best. His comment was simple and to the point. He said "Well shit" which summed up my first thought.

But my 2nd thought was I was PISSED. All season long we've seen Rodgers around his teammates, coaches, EVERYBODY, without a mask, without BEING VACCINATED. I'm sorry, I'm of the opinion if you're old enough to get it, you don't have a medical condition where being vaccinated could do you harm, the people should be vaccinated. Rodgers isn't the most warm and fuzzy person in the world, I mean he's not that easy really take a liking to IMO. His arrogance at times drives me nuts and I guess this is another example.

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Johnblood27's picture

November 04, 2021 at 09:04 am

Lay it down Nick!

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GregC's picture

November 04, 2021 at 07:10 am

For the first time this season, I am actually looking forward to a Packer game. The Aaron Rodgers Ego Tour is on hold for at least one week. I've got my team back. Maybe Jordan Love will stink up the field and they'll lose, but at least they are the Green Bay Packers again. Even better, Rodgers will not be on the sideline, so we won't be subjected to endless shots of him during the broadcast. Remember when Mahomes missed that game against the Packers two years ago? Somebody counted, and the TV network showed 40 shots of Mahomes on the sidelines during that game.

I think Love looked good in the preseason, and he will play at least decently. As Tim notes, there are reasons why this is not the most difficult situation for him to make his first start, but let's be real: The pressure on Love will be enormous, especially considering the toxic situation that Aaron Rodgers has imposed on this team. Still, it hasn't been toxic enough to prevent the team from winning seven games in a row, and just this past week, Rodgers softened his stance toward the GM, so maybe things are looking up. I can't wait to see what this offense looks like with Love under center on Sunday.

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Razer's picture

November 04, 2021 at 07:36 am

...I've got my team back...

Interesting take GregC. I think a lot of people share this unease with our celebrity QB. We all owe Rodgers credit for making the Packers competitive week-in, week-out. We all fear life after 3 decades of stellar QB play. Most of us don't appreciate being held hostage like Favre and Rodgers put us through. Is this what Jordan Love represents on Sunday?

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Johnblood27's picture

November 04, 2021 at 09:05 am

umm... yup.

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Coldworld's picture

November 04, 2021 at 07:11 am

I agree with your take on umpiring and the increasing need for the NFL to address this as a matter of priority. It is definitely harming the experience.

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Razer's picture

November 04, 2021 at 07:40 am

I agree that the product is suffering. Good old football games are fewer and farther between. I am worried that this will only get worse as gambling revenues wage the tail. Easy enough to calculate the value of a call when the money has been placed.

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dobber's picture

November 04, 2021 at 07:43 am

They really need to go to full-time officials, but that would cut heavily into the league bottom line--so it won't happen any time soon.

In the end, I think the human element is an important part of the regulation and officiation of athletics, but in this era of expanded gambling and wagering any officiating gaffe or unexplainable review decision potentially erodes the credibility of the product on the field. Something needs to happen.

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Razer's picture

November 04, 2021 at 08:27 am

...They really need to go to full-time officials,..

This is just astounding. Multi-billion dollar industry using part-time workers and points-of-emphasis. NFL ownership is the evolution of corporate America

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Dr.Rodgers's picture

November 04, 2021 at 10:20 am

Spot on!

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jurp's picture

November 04, 2021 at 08:56 am

It'll only get solved when the Maf- er, legalized gambling honchos get pissed enough to hold Goodell's cojones to the flames. Until then, I expect that it'll get worse - who are they going to replace these idiots with? It's not like there's a minor league for refs (I discount NCAA refs here, because many of them are demonstrably worse than the NFL refs).

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Savage57's picture

November 04, 2021 at 07:14 am

Always an enjoyable read, Tim.

You hit on a lot of the points the Packers and Matt will need to rely upon to win this game.

The question is, will they remain committed to them, or hastily abandon them? Pound the rock, contain Mahomes, and keep Hill, Hardman and Kelce from beating you deep.

Shrimp and grits
Fried green tomatoes
Pecan pie (possibly peach cobbler)
Iced tea.

And bawled peanuts as a snack.

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dobber's picture

November 04, 2021 at 07:44 am

That sure sounds like coastal GA to me...

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Savage57's picture

November 04, 2021 at 08:17 am

Metro Atlanta, but I'm a sucker for the ocean.

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dobber's picture

November 04, 2021 at 08:20 am

Lived in Macon, GA, for several years, so it's all very familiar!

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Razer's picture

November 04, 2021 at 07:19 am

The team will lean on the running game... And if this team can get the ground game going and control the clock, there’s no reason to think they can’t win the game...

I think this is fundamental to Jordan Love's success. He will be nervous and KC will be throwing all kind of 'special' defense at him. If we are forcing their hand and in positive down and distance, Love will have his breathing room. If we can't get the ground game going, it could be a long day.

Yes the Lions are bad. Everybody looked bad just like week one for the Packers. I just can't believe how void of talent the previous regime left that team. Goff looked bad but I don't know who he has to throw the ball to other than Hockenson. I liked the Lions under Stafford but bad management has plagued that organization for two generations. BUT - it looks good on the Bears.

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dobber's picture

November 04, 2021 at 08:13 am

"The team will lean on the running game... And if this team can get the ground game going and control the clock, there’s no reason to think they can’t win the game..."

The one part you left out: they've gotta finish long drives with 7s. Not 3s, and not 4th and short failures in the red zone.

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Razer's picture

November 04, 2021 at 09:02 am

...The one part you left out: they've gotta finish long drives with 7s...

So true. Against an offense that can put up points in bunches, we need to be able to force the issue

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NickPerry's picture

November 04, 2021 at 07:28 am

"The Packers are going to have to lean on their running game more this week, and it just so happens that the offense is at its most effective when the team does exactly that."

My thoughts exactly Tim, and I think there's going to be several BIG chunk runs by both Jones and Dillon where the Chiefs stack the LOS and Jones or Dillon breaks through without a Chiefs defender in site. Actually I hope Dillon breaks through and it's just him and "The Honey Badger"... Honey Badger, meet Quadzilla and PAIN! This week is the same formula as last week...Run the ball, control the clock, and keep Mahomes on the sidelines.

Another thought is when Love does pass he'll play within the Offense. All those wide open receivers MLF's offense schemes open 5 or 6 yards downfield right IN FRONT of the QB will be taken advantage of. Jordon just needs to try and control those emotions his first possession of the game, not make a mistake trying to do to much, and take what the defense gives you.

On defense it's the same plan. Keep Mahomes contained just like they did against Arizona and don't get beat deep. The Packers are one of the best at defending the deep balls, they must do that Sunday.

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dobber's picture

November 04, 2021 at 07:46 am

Your post saved me about three paragraphs, Nick. This all makes too much sense.

Add good tackling to your list. KC is fast on the outside and Kelce is a bull. They can't allow these guys to catch and YAC on Sunday.

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NickPerry's picture

November 04, 2021 at 10:46 am

Excellent point dobber, good tackling is a must. Miss a tackle on Hill and he could be gone. Miss one on Kelce it might be 20 yards further downfield with him having a head of steam trying to get him to the ground.

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Johnblood27's picture

November 04, 2021 at 09:09 am

Lay it down Nick!

You are saving me untold keystrokes today!

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NickPerry's picture

November 04, 2021 at 10:44 am

I'm glad I could help buddy!

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Matt Gonzales's picture

November 04, 2021 at 10:16 am

I am actually really curious to see what the game plan looks like with Love re: motion/misdirection, etc. The Packers won several games with a much more simple looking passing game, but you have to wonder if MLF is going to show more jet/wheel stuff presnap to try to keep defenses from just keying in on the run, use those to try to get guys open in space, etc. I do think Love is going to have to find and hit guys in traffic, and he will probably need to also stand and deliver with pressure in his face more than once. Those are the areas where I am concerned/intrigued - will he be able to make his reads and throw knowing he will probably take a hit, or will he bail the pocket, or make mistakes when the pass rush is coming.

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NickPerry's picture

November 04, 2021 at 10:48 am

"but you have to wonder if MLF is going to show more jet/wheel stuff presnap to try to keep defenses from just keying in on the run, use those to try to get guys open in space,"

I think we'll see much more of it too mattgsx. I'm actually REALLY excited to watch Love play. Would have been nice to let him have a FULL weeks practice, but it's close I suppose since the BOMB about Rodgers was dropped early yesterday morning.

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croatpackfan's picture

November 04, 2021 at 12:27 pm

I wonder something else. What is with Joe Barry? Is he still in Covid-19 protocol or he is back? Who is preparing D plan and who will call D plays? Jerry Grey did marvelous job against Cardinals. KC is completelly different beast. Cardinals have excellent receiver corp, but not that fast as KC. I suppose more zone D because of that. that means Packers ILB and Sullivan should have a lot of job to do. While we can count on Campbell, I little bit worry about his partner at ILB.

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Dr.Rodgers's picture

November 04, 2021 at 08:02 am

I’m expecting Love to throw the ball 35 times with 2 tds and 1 fumble for a loss. I also expect another serious injury in this next game. The referees will probably choose the winner, but the Packers will have another strong defensive performance getting once again, several turnovers. I expect mostly field goals and punts for both teams. Packers take this one. Might be a low scoring game WIN WITH JLOVE Let Love bless us all.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 04, 2021 at 07:50 am

Could this be the Rodgers Cowboys game for Love? Remember back in the day when no one knew how good Rodgers would be. He got his time against the Cowboys and he played really well. That was the point in which the Packers knew they could move on from Favre and go to Rodgers. Will this game be that for Love?

Ok, moving onto the game.

Reasons why they can win:
#1 - Mahomes is not the Mahomes we know. The Packers defense will get opportunities to get some turnovers.

#2 - LaFleur - We have seen LaFleur creating game plans around players they don't have. They have been without their deep threat for weeks. They have been having to shuffle their OL. Even down to their 3rd OT to play LT. And it hasn't made much of a difference. While it has been a bit sloppy at times, they have found ways to win out.
We said last week if they found a way to win without their top 3 WR's going into Arizona (the only unbeaten team) on a short week, that he deserves coach of the year. We did just that. Now what are people going to say about LaFleur if they pull off the win without Rodgers?

#3 Love - While he is making his first start (hopefully), he is coming into a pretty good situation. Sure its going to be one of the loudest stadiums. BUT he is going to be going against one of the worst defenses. He has been preparing to play, he should have some success. I believe Love won't have issues going 20-20. It will be in the redzone where he will need to not turn the ball over and make some key conversions.

#4 Offensive philosophy - They will no doubt use the RB's a lot. Expect a big day of usage with Jones, and Dillon. But don't be surprised if they do a little more Jet sweep action. I expect them to try and throw as much confusion at the Chiefs as they can. It will help getting a few key players back as well. Hopefully Adams will be good to go, but Lazard and MVS should be back and that will be a huge help.

#5 Defense - Packers went into Arizona who have one of the most dangerous offenses in the league and held them to 21 points. IF the Packers defense can do the same thing against the Chiefs high powered offense, I believe they win this game.

A Reason why they may not win:

Rodgers/Love - Rodgers while he hasn't put up huge numbers, he has been the key to the offense. The question is, can Love be the guy they hoped he would be when they drafted him.

Sidenote:
This game Could have a huge impact on next year. If Love shows up and plays very well, this could be what they were looking for so they could get rid of Rodgers in the offseason. If Love plays horrible, it maybe the reason they look to resign Rodgers. If Love plays well it could be a reason they decide to trade him and keep Rodgers for the foreseeable future.
This game could have a huge affect on the future of the Packers.

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dobber's picture

November 04, 2021 at 08:19 am

"We have seen LaFleur creating game plans around players they don't have. They have been without their deep threat for weeks."

I can't imagine KC won't be loading the box and trying to take away the run and short, rhythm passes. Love is going to have to throw the ball downfield some, and the long ball should be there on Sunday--especially if MVS is back in the lineup. In fact, my first call on Sunday might be play action and throwing the ball deep. They're going to have to take those shots or KC will man up the Packers receivers and load the box. The threat has to be there or this offense will have really hard sledding.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 04, 2021 at 08:37 am

Correct. I think KC will make stopping the run the top priority. That being said will the be able to either way? Jones and Dillon are 2 very tough RB's to bring down.

I think to take advantage of the loaded boxes, I see GB using motion, and play action a lot more. I see Jet sweeps used more in this game.

I don't think they will load the boxes nearly as much if Adams is back. And if they take a few shots to MVS, they likely won't be loading the boxes as well.

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dobber's picture

November 04, 2021 at 09:05 am

"Correct. I think KC will make stopping the run the top priority."

Agreed. I think that's what any sane game plan at this point would focus around. Until Love shows he's going to be able to move the offense through the air, I think KC crashes the LOS and dares him to try...Adams or no. To be fair, Love has never had the full offense at his disposal--preseason or regular season--so we'll see what happens.

Remember that Andy Reid is the godfather of complicated motion and jet sweep action. His offenses almost look like college or CFL teams and he has outstanding speed and playmaking ability in his receivers. KCs defense is lousy, but they'll have seen plenty of motion in practice and I'd be surprised if they're too phased by it. But it's an important part of making a defense think and move...and reveal what they're trying to do. Hopefully Love will be heady enough to read those cues.

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Johnblood27's picture

November 04, 2021 at 09:18 am

Too much worry about scheme.

Just RUN THE BALL dammit!

The KC D stinks, load the box all they want, the GBP can create creases and gain yards. That will lead to play action and jet motion creating bigger defensive gaps that MLF's scheme can take advantage of especially with Love at QB, someone who will follow the offense and look to all options.

Lets not over think this one.

Stay physical on defense, keep Mahommes in the pocket, limit YAC and deep plays.
RUN THE BALL imposing our will on offense and take what the defense gives in the passing game.

Winning recipe there.

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Coldworld's picture

November 04, 2021 at 09:45 am

It will be interesting to see how we target the middle with Tonyan gone. We need to be credible there or they can focus on the perimeters. This could be a big day for Cobb or Lazard too.

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Johnblood27's picture

November 04, 2021 at 01:37 pm

Tonyan or not, the GBP have adequate personnel and scheme to run routes in the middle of the field.

It will be up to MLF to put the proper plays into this weeks' game plan and for Love et al to execute the plan faithfully.

Winning combination there!

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Razer's picture

November 04, 2021 at 09:11 am

...This game could have a huge affect on the future of the Packers....

I would say that this is the real importance of this game. Win or lose, we will have a winning season. Love playing with skill and confidence tells the Packers what they have and what they can do with Rodgers. This is the game on Sunday.

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Todd's picture

November 04, 2021 at 07:57 am

It will be interesting what the post-game reactions, or more accurately overreactions will be on Sunday. Whether the Packers win or lose, if Love plays poorly or if he plays well, the commentary on his performance will be a fun read to say the least.

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mrtundra's picture

November 04, 2021 at 08:16 am

I think Love will surprise many here, and the Packers will come away with a win. Last Sunday, back up QBs stole the show in the Dallas-vikings game and the Jets-Cincy game. I look for that to continue as KC has not been playing very solid football, of late. I see Mahomes tossing up 2-3 INTs for our LBs and DBs to grab and maybe score on. If we can generate a pass rush, our chances of winning, go way up. Hopefully our DL is playing well and is prepared for a big day. Run that Football and run it often! Wear down that KC Defense and move the chains. Time of Possession will be big, on Sunday. Let Love connect on his passes and it will be party time in Packer Nation! GO PACK, GO!!!

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jurp's picture

November 04, 2021 at 09:00 am

There is also virtually no film on Love. This will work to his advantage.

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Coldworld's picture

November 04, 2021 at 10:22 am

I am interested to see Love play with the starters. One thought though is that I wish he had played with some of them in preseason.

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Todd's picture

November 04, 2021 at 01:38 pm

Good point, jurp.

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mrtundra's picture

November 04, 2021 at 08:18 am

4 foods to represent where I'm from: 1). Bratwurst with sauerkraut and spicy German Mustard on it, all in a bavarian style bun; 2). Batter fried cheese curds; 3). Batter fried smelt, fresh from Lake Superior and 4) Any grilled meat, such as venison, beef steaks or grilled turkey followed by an ice cold Leinenkugel's beer, or six. Leinenkugel's beer was the prevalent beer in my parents' house when I was growing up. Once in a while you'd find Blatz, Schlitz or Pabst in the fridge, but mostly, it seemed Dad's beer of choice was Leinenkugel's. New Glarus beers were not around when I was a kid, but if they were, Spotted Cow would have been a favorite.

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dobber's picture

November 04, 2021 at 08:09 am

Mmmmm...Leinie's Red...

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mrtundra's picture

November 04, 2021 at 08:27 am

Even Leinie's Red was not available to us when I was growing up. It was/is a delicious brew. I do not think Leinies' Light was even available to us, at that time. I think Leinie's Light came out in the after math of the Miller Lite and Bud Light craze in the mid 1970's. I remember other regional brews in the house, such as Breunig's beer out of Rice Lake, WI, Rhinelander beer out of Rhinelander, WI, Fitgers beer out of Duluth, Fox Head and Wisconsin Premium beers from who knows where. It seemed Dad was always looking for a "new" cheap beer find that was readily available, in my hometown, but most of the time it was Leinie's and the other three major brands I listed earlier.

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dobber's picture

November 04, 2021 at 08:56 am

Huber out of Monroe...

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Guam's picture

November 04, 2021 at 08:28 am

You sparked a memory for me, Dobber. Given my pen name, you can well imagine I spent considerable time living in Asia in general and Guam in particular. I remember one day I was shopping for groceries in Guam and came across a crowd of people surrounding a special sale display. It was cases of Leinie Red, something which had not been previously seen on Guam. There was a near fight as this crowd of Wisconsin expats battled over how many cases each could load onto his grocery cart. I got one case and was thrilled!!!!

Leinie Reds forever........

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Savage57's picture

November 04, 2021 at 08:50 am

I remember back in the day when every town seemed to have it's own brewery and the rotations would show up in dad's or friend's dad's fridges:

Point, Rhinelander, Chief Oshkosh, Huber, Heileman, Gettelman, Kingsbury, Potosi,

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dobber's picture

November 04, 2021 at 08:56 am

Wow...Rhinelander. Now THAT takes me back...

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JQ's picture

November 04, 2021 at 10:42 am

Walters -->Eau Claire
Breunig's-->Rice Lake

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HawkPacker's picture

November 05, 2021 at 12:14 pm

Good old Potosi.

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jurp's picture

November 04, 2021 at 09:05 am

In my case:

Bratwurst with (*gasp*) ketchup and brown mustard
Pickled Herring, but only at Christmas
Strawberry schaumtorte
Brandy Old Fashioned on special occasions, Gettleman for beer-drinking.

On a funny note, my Dad always made his Old Fashioned with a dash of bitters, a shot of red vermouth, two of brandy, and 7-up. I did the same when I came of age. But, I've since learned that this is actually called a Metropolitan because of the vermouth. Who knew?

And my Dad missed Gettleman's very, very much when the brewery closed. He tried other beers but could never replace his first love. *SIGH*

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LeotisHarris's picture

November 04, 2021 at 03:58 pm

Good call on the smelt fry! Damn, it's been years.

Leinenkugel's from Chippewa Falls, and Walter's from Eau Claire were the go-to brews in my neck of the woods. In the 70s it was damn cheap, and I remember Meister Brau being even less expensive than Walter's and Leinies.

As far as pop/soda, my parents weren't big on "treats", but we did occasionally get Elf Soda from Super Valu when it was on sale for10 cans for a buck.

I'm looking forward to MLF handing the kid the keys to the car. As much grit as these guys have shown this season so far, I see them rallying around Love. Might even be a bit of a we'll show you this ain't Aaron and the Packerettes mindset rolled in to boot.

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jannes bjornson's picture

November 04, 2021 at 09:27 pm

They didn't draft him to hand the ball off...

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dobber's picture

November 04, 2021 at 08:08 am

I think many were expecting a Rodgers-Mahomes shootout--the networks definitely were. With ARod, I felt pretty sure that would spark Mahomes and the explosive side of KC's offense...will that spark be there with #10 under center for the Packers? Some are also saying the Chiefs are in a must-win and will come out guns blazing--well, Monday night was just as much if not more of a must win and they looked lethargic and did barely enough to win against a poor-to-middling Giants team. I think it's too much to ask for Love to go in on a couple days practice as the #1 and win a game like this on the road, but I do think it's a real possibility.

"I’m far more confident with Love in a LaFleur offense than I ever was with Brett Hundley in a Mike McCarthy offense."

...been saying this for a year and a half. McCarthy didn't believe in tailoring his game plans to players, he just plugged players into game plans. He got away with it with Matt Flynn and when the skill position talent was particularly good, but MM had become too calcified in his approach. He's got great skill position talent right now in Dallas, but when they struggled with injuries last year he didn't look so good.

KC Defense--they're near the bottom of the league in pressure rate, sacks, INTs, ypc, and dvoa. Almost dead last in the league in +/-. They picked up Melvin Ingram this week, and I'm sure he'll play on obvious passing downs, but there's a reason he's making laps around the league at this point. He's never been a run defender. Their run defense is only OK...so, to be honest, this was sizing up with the Packers getting their WRs back and with #12 to be a game where they could move the ball through the air.

"Will Jordan Love have his “Dallas Cowboys 2007” moment? Will the team rally around a backup in a difficult situation and keep a tough road game competitive?"

If Love plays well--and especially if the Packers win--I think a lot of attitudes around here about the Packers future with #12 and #10 will start to shift. I don't think Love even needs to have gaudy stats. He needs to show he can do the job. This is a game where the system needs to shine for the Packers: win in the trenches like they did against a BETTER AZ team, run the ball, take care of the football, tackle well, contain Mahomes...and they CAN win.

"Around the NFCN"
The Lions suck....
The Vikings suck...
and the Bears STILL suck.

"Tell us where you're from using food"

Apple pie in a bag!
That only means something to very local folks.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 04, 2021 at 08:53 am

"If Love plays well--and especially if the Packers win--I think a lot of attitudes around here about the Packers future with #12 and #10 will start to shift. I don't think Love even needs to have gaudy stats. He needs to show he can do the job."

Really its the optics more then anything. How does Love look? That is what we will come away with. Its not about the stats or if they win or lose. Its how he looks.

If he shows that he belongs, that will ease a lot of minds. Much like the Rodgers Dallas game.

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dobber's picture

November 04, 2021 at 08:59 am

I think you're on the mark.

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Savage57's picture

November 04, 2021 at 09:14 am

Mukwanago?

If I'm right, Google is a life cheat.

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dobber's picture

November 04, 2021 at 09:25 am

East Troy/Alpine Valley---not too much difference.

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Guam's picture

November 04, 2021 at 09:19 am

How about pasties made with Rutabaga, not potatoes, and pickled herring. If you know about the first one, you know where I am from.

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dobber's picture

November 04, 2021 at 09:26 am

Pasties make me think UP.

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Guam's picture

November 04, 2021 at 12:41 pm

Cookie for Dobber!

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Hematite's picture

November 05, 2021 at 09:23 am

The Upper Peninsula of Michigan?

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Hematite's picture

November 05, 2021 at 10:11 am

Assuming it's the U.P. let's narrow it down to my location.
Pasties and Cudighis.
Cudighis aren't a U.P. wide delicacy.

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13TimeChamps's picture

November 04, 2021 at 09:21 am

""I’m far more confident with Love in a LaFleur offense than I ever was with Brett Hundley in a Mike McCarthy offense.""

In total agreement on this. And while I also agree that MLF is much more innovative than MM became later in his tenure....you also have to factor in that Love is a 1st round pick, while Hundley was a 5th rounder. Love was picked to be the future starter for the Pack, whereas Hundley was viewed much more a...hopefully...serviceable backup.

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Guam's picture

November 04, 2021 at 08:18 am

I'm excited about Sunday night simply because I will be able to watch Jordan Love play. The Packer coaching staff and FO probably have a pretty good idea of what they have in Jordan Love by now, but I have almost no idea since he has played so little. I look forward to seeing him play and how he handles a tough NFL away game.

And RC is right, how Love plays could have a significant impact on the future of the Packers and Aaron Rodgers. If Love has a coming out party like Rodgers did in Dallas, that could be the final nail in Rodgers time in Green Bay. Rodgers publicly abused the Packer front office during the offseason, mislead his fans about being vaccinated (after previously publicly castigating Ryan Braun for misleading him and his fans about PEDS), and has potentially damaged his team's playoff chances by missing at least one and maybe more games due to COVID19. Do you really think the Packer FO wants to keep this guy if they have any realistic alternative?

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mrtundra's picture

November 04, 2021 at 08:57 am

Yeah, ARod demanded to have a seat at the table regarding personnel decisions over the training camp period debacle and Gute gave it to him. You'd think that being fully vaccinated would have been part of the deal for ARod having a say, in anything. Rodgers said he has done the research on the vaccines. Does he also want a seat on the CDC board of directors to help guide national Covid policy? Now, he is no better than Cousins, in that regard, if it is true that he is not vaccinated. Does Gute and MLF need a plexiglass case for him in the GB locker room, like Cousins alluded to, to protect him from the pandemic? Not to be vaccinated, and especially so during a pandemic that has killed 750,000 Americans, is very selfish and irresponsible, IMO. How many other Packers will come down with positive tests for Covid -19, now? I hope Rodgers getting Covid just means he has been exposed and is asymptomatic. I really hope he doesn't get sick enough to be hospitalized. This is terrible news for him, the GBP, and their fans.

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Packer_Fan's picture

November 04, 2021 at 08:24 am

We will now know how good Jordan Love is and how important Aaron Rodgers is for the team,

It will be interesting to see how LaFluer game plans this game. What gimmicks, how they plan to move the ball to make it easy on Love. Like two running backs, jet sweeps, TE screens and such. I would like to see whatever he uses to be used again when Rodgers returns.

And for what ever it is, I am glad that Rodgers got infected now and not in January, But the virus is running through the team, The Packers need to get this under control so we don't keep getting players ill.

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Minniman's picture

November 04, 2021 at 02:47 pm

"It will be interesting to see how LaFluer game plans this game."

If things start to go south, then I bet MLF employs more stunts than an Arnie movie!

I loved watching the first half of the NYG match last week for the stunt plays....... nothing else though!

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MarkinMadison's picture

November 04, 2021 at 08:30 am

The Chef's defense stinks. Their O-line ain't great either. But they are still #10 in the NFL in points per game. So I'll disagree with Tim calling them the worst team in the NFL. No team with Mahommes can be called worse than the Lions. They are beatable. But we've got to be strong. We can't do it alone. We've got to let love rule. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcU57tAKzng

I have more confidence this week in Jordan Love and a team with overall improving health than I had in Aaron Rodgers and a team with overall declining health last week. Why? The Packers' D. The Cards had their flaws but I thought the defense would focus on the run and Rodgers and a depleted receiving group would not be enough to outscore Murray and Co. And really, when was the last time the Packers D went to the west coast and contained a QB who was a true running threat? Like, never. So our defense proved me wrong last week. Let's see if they can prove me right this week.

Rath ham in a can. If you google it you will get the answer. If you don't google it, you're either from the same area as me, and you are at least as old as me, or you have no idea what I'm talking about. Remember when most everything came in a can instead of wrapped in plastic?

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dobber's picture

November 04, 2021 at 09:17 am

"But they are still #10 in the NFL in points per game. "

Granted, but the majority of those points came early in the year. In the last four weeks, they put up 31 against Washington, 3 against TN,, and 20 against the Giants (all three bad defenses), but struggled out 20 against Buffalo's outstanding defense. They're in a swoon right now, which makes me particularly nervous because they're due to break out.

Your point on their OL is a good one. KC really doesn't run the ball very well--their aggregate numbers benefit from Mahomes' running, but Mahomes is hard to catch and sack.

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ApplesAndTons's picture

November 04, 2021 at 04:48 pm

You realize your penultimate paragraph is basically you saying you were wrong about everything and then giving your opinion about this upcoming week with Jordan Love facing Mahomes. You seem to discount the fact that teams play with a different mentality when they play with passion and in support of a greater cause. As Bruce Irons would tell you, doesn't matter what they do this week anyway because he'll be happy with a 7-2 start (and he will be)

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MarkinMadison's picture

November 06, 2021 at 11:17 pm

Well if you think admitting when you were wrong is a bad thing then I guess that's like, your opinion man.

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PewAuKeeFan's picture

November 04, 2021 at 08:34 am

I wouldn't say that all the refs are petty. But several certainly ARE PETTY.

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jurp's picture

November 04, 2021 at 08:46 am

Not worried about this game, but Rodgers' behavior could certainly affect the Packers long-term - if it's true the team knew he was unvaccinated and allowed him to flout protocols (which we know he did in his press conferences), then the team will be fined (not a huge impact at all). BUT - they could also lose a draft choice and, if the NFL finds that the team's actions were egregious enough could lose MLF to a suspension, much like NO lost Sean Payton for a year.

I think the largest question is - did AR's teammates know that he was unvaccinated? Which leads to - If not, why not, since the FO did know AR's vaccination status? And on these questions the relationship between the players and the team hinges. If the answer to the first question is a "No", then how can MLF still have the trust of his players? And with that, he loses the locker room and we can wave bye-bye to the season.

I sure hope that all the players knew about AR's vaccination status - but if so, why did so many of them apparently go to AR's maskless Halloween Party?

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Johnblood27's picture

November 04, 2021 at 09:31 am

ever hear of HIIPA?

https://www.cdc.gov/phlp/publications/topic/hipaa.html#:~:text=The%20Hea....

ya cant just go out and spread news related to someones medical situation in public. especially if you are an employer.

I believe all the privacy nonsense related to hiipa is a bunch of crap that just makes my life more difficult, however like most of the legislative oversight we have today it is here until WE THE PEOPLE say we have had enough of it.

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dobber's picture

November 04, 2021 at 09:38 am

I disagree on HIPAA: in this age of information and data sharing, people need to protect their personal information and health status/history is a big part of that. Genetic testing creates even greater problems here. You have a right for your information to be your information and that includes vaccination status. Data mining and invasive hacking practices makes it very difficult to protect much of that the way it is.

Operationally, HIPAA does suck. We deal with it all the time. But I certainly want my information protected, and if I want that for me, I need to respect that for others.

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croatpackfan's picture

November 04, 2021 at 12:43 pm

dobber with lot you say I agree - about football and more. But this is not personal information about health status/history. This information is about security of the surroundings. You know how law allows publishing secret data if those data is of huge important to public. Knowing if someone is vaccinated or not is in public interest, don't you agree?

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jurp's picture

November 04, 2021 at 11:28 am

My question is not HIIPA-related because the team is supposed to treat non-vaccinated players differently than vaccinated - in other words, if you're not wearing a mask in the building, then you're vaccinated. Pretty damn obvious who is and who is not vaccinated in that situation. This is also true of employers with vaccine mandates - if you're working there after the mandate takes effect, then you've been vaccinated.

HIIPA is hugely necessary for many reasons, not least of which is that certain political entities would certainly discriminate against people with certain conditions. For example, Texas is trying to restrict access to books dealing with HIV/AIDS right now - it's not that far of a step from book-banning to book-burning to outright discrimination.

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Packers0808's picture

November 04, 2021 at 09:13 am

On a different note, does anyone have a clue or know because of what Rodgers did and supposedly Packers not following protocol and everything else, is it possible the league could make the Packers forfeit their 7 wins due to this mess? I honestly don't know and am not trying to be a wise guy, I was really just wondering when this popped into my mind last night. I haven't seen this topic addressed any where so I am assuming not.

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dobber's picture

November 04, 2021 at 09:19 am

" is it possible the league could make the Packers forfeit their 7 wins due to this mess?"

Never say never, but I think this is pretty unlikely and unprecedented. ARod's behavior didn't upset the competitive balance of games. More likely would be hefty fines, suspensions, or forfeiture of draft picks. Whatever the case, nothing's going to happen for a bit.

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Packers0808's picture

November 04, 2021 at 09:26 am

Pretty much agree, but was a concern. Would in reality be really a harsh measure because of so many people involved for what possibly a few did.

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dobber's picture

November 04, 2021 at 09:30 am

Hell, if the Pats can cheat in ways that upset the onfield performance, integrity, and potential outcomes of games and not have to forfeit games--geez, that's far worse than this.

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Packers0808's picture

November 04, 2021 at 09:31 am

Pats and Brady at that time were the NFLs Honey Buns! Can't touch Brady!

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croatpackfan's picture

November 04, 2021 at 12:44 pm

Brady still is!

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jurp's picture

November 04, 2021 at 11:30 am

I doubt that we'd forfeit completed games, but if the virus runs through enough players then it's not out of the realm of possibility that we'd have to forfeit a future game per NFL rules. AR's Halloween party could be a looming disaster in our future. Or not.

I'm more worried about an MLF year-long suspension, honestly. If he knew ad did nothing, then he's very guilty of breaking NFL/NFLPA rules.

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Minniman's picture

November 04, 2021 at 02:40 pm

Someone pointed out that there were no crowd shots of that party and that the Rodgers footage appeared on Marcedes Lewis' Insta account. If this remains the play, right or wrong, It will be difficult to prove which other players were there.

By now I'd guess that the Packers will have tested everyone behind closed doors and would be looking to contain the situation.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 05, 2021 at 10:07 am

The Covid protocols only apply to private house parties attended by 15 or more persons. How large was this party, as I don't use social media and so have not seen any video of it.

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Hematite's picture

November 05, 2021 at 09:40 am

Was it a Halloween party that Rodgers threw or someone's party that Rodgers was at?
It really makes no difference, it was a bad choice on his part!
It's just my first impression was that it was a party that he attended.
Either way, bad decision!!!

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Minniman's picture

November 04, 2021 at 02:41 pm

I'd offer that any punitive measures would be effective from the date that Rodgers petition was formally rejected and the Packers notified.

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ImaPayne's picture

November 04, 2021 at 12:36 pm

NO but i read that a lot of teams who were following protocols like forcing non vaxers to wear a mask inside all facilities including all press conferences will be pissed if the NFL does nothing.
I see fines coming down the line but no game forfeits. It isnt like non vaxers cant play.

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Handsback's picture

November 04, 2021 at 09:21 am

First off, the Chiefs are in a slump. They can be beat by a game plan that scores points and wins the TOP.
Secondly, you hate to have a young QB face a really tough front four that will put pressure on him all game long, and thankfully he won't see it from that front four. The pressure he sees will be from the DBs, and LBs blitzing trying to confuse him and enticing him to make hurried mistakes. Hopefully...he's ready for that pressure and will find those outlet receivers and keep the ball rolling when he needs to pass.
Third point is run the ball with power. If it's 3rd and 3 run the ball. If its 3rd and goal at the 3 yard line....run the ball. Don't give up on it.
Last point is this, the defense and STs can't try to win the game on their own. They need to play the same as they have for the last two games, except don't expect any freebies from the Chiefs.

There's no doubt the Packers can win this game, but like everyone else I'm skeptical Love can make it happen. Then again there is no better time to find out how far this QB has progressed win, lose or tie everyone will enjoy seeing him play.

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dobber's picture

November 04, 2021 at 09:31 am

Packers have to score early. They need to stay even or ahead of KC. I wouldn't want to ask Love to play catch-up.

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Coldworld's picture

November 04, 2021 at 10:28 am

Time of possession is key too. We have to give the D respite if it is to do what it did against Murray again. That means running successfully, but also moving the chains with short passes.

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PeteK's picture

November 04, 2021 at 10:57 am

Yes and yes, some completed passes will open up the running game. Similar game plan to Cards game, I just think Chiefs will score more pts with their two top receivers. Also, DT Jones presents a big issue for us. If Gents can put pressure on Mahomes so can we.

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ApplesAndTons's picture

November 04, 2021 at 04:34 pm

I'm not sure if his receivers are so eager to play catch with him, let alone catch-up. At least we know there will be no excuses for MLF if they lose. Jordan Love is too innocent to blame, and Gute can't hide from this forever. But this AND next week should be a good test for MLF

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Leatherhead's picture

November 04, 2021 at 12:07 pm

This has been a wild week. Last Thursday, we had a big road victory over the last unbeaten team, and now, we’re going to get a glimpse of a possible future. I’m excited.

Conventional Wisdom says “Lean on the run” (that’s another way of saying we should run more and pass less😄)

I think we should follow the same victory formula that has worked since LaFleur took over.

😎. Protect the rock. That means protecting the guy with the rock. It means not forcing the QB to throw high risk passes under pressure. We have 1 or 0 turnovers in 80% of our games, and we’re 29-3 in those games.

😎. Score at least 23 points. We score at least 23 points 77% of the time, and we’re 29-2 in those games.

I’d start the game with some confidence builders, and a shot downfield, but yeah, I’d put the ball into the hands of Jones and Dillon 35 times.

As regards the food…

Fish, fresh out of the lake , or at Friday fish fries. Fish sticks for school lunch on Friday.
Venison. Ground venison, roast venison, venison stew, venison sausage……
Locally grown potatoes, because it was just a little too far North to grow corn.
Local dairy. Milk, cheese, and butter. Never margarine..

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ApplesAndTons's picture

November 04, 2021 at 04:41 pm

"It means not forcing the QB to throw high risk passes under pressure. We have 1 or 0 turnovers in 80% of our games, and we’re 29-3 in those games."

So Aaron didn't throw high risk passes? Or he did but that had no effect on your 1 or 0 turnovers in 80% of your games, and you're 29-3 in those games? That's quite the logic you're using 🤐

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ApplesAndTons's picture

November 04, 2021 at 04:41 pm

"It means not forcing the QB to throw high risk passes under pressure. We have 1 or 0 turnovers in 80% of our games, and we’re 29-3 in those games."

So Aaron didn't throw high risk passes? Or he did but that had no effect on your 1 or 0 turnovers in 80% of your games, and you're 29-3 in those games? That's quite the logic you're using 🤐

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stockholder's picture

November 04, 2021 at 10:53 am

If they Do! So the maybe comes out. Why? Because Rodgers isn't the QB! And those Maybes will even come out more, if Rodgers leaves. Love should never have been chosen in that draft. And if he can't win. This is on Gute! Because were willing to become a loser to prove a point. That Rodgers can be replaced. So all the trash talking of Rodgers, can't stop the Maybes. That the box score is what matters, and not winning. You want the "run" to hide the weakness. And thats just where we don't need any injuries. ( @RB) Sorry, but Love must throw the ball! It may burn your butt that Rodgers is off. But Lefluer will take the heat if they lose. Not Love. And someway Some how. Most will try to blame Rodgers instead.

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croatpackfan's picture

November 04, 2021 at 12:49 pm

Are you tested on Covid-19? Are you vaccinated? If not it can be very dangerous to bi in the lower back (I will use another word, but don't want to be rude!) of Aaron Rodgers...

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THESZOTMAN1's picture

November 04, 2021 at 11:04 am

Here's how I see Sunday, as succinctly as possible:
Pound the Rock. Pretend Jones=Paul Hornung & Dillon=Jim Taylor (yeah, I'm an OLD Packer Backer)
Dink & Dunk 'em to Death. Add Scrambles, Roll-outs, RPOs, Jet Sweeps, & throw in one of Nagler's famous Wheelroutes.
Play bend but don't break D. Create TOs.
Crosby nails one from outside 50 for the win as time expires.
See how easy that was?
Pack 8-1
The Szotman

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Hematite's picture

November 05, 2021 at 09:54 am

I like your game plan!
I hope you are MLF disguised as THESZOTMAN1

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Spock's picture

November 04, 2021 at 11:58 am

I'm excited to see Jordan Loves first game...Oh, wait, here in AZ the game won't be shown because it's on #@*&% Fox and they are showing the Cardinals/49ers instead. Sigh.

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Oppy's picture

November 04, 2021 at 12:11 pm

It would be great to win this game.

However, if we're talking about evaluating what we have in Love, it's important to understand evaluation needs to be isolated to what the player controls.

Is the communication pre-snap clean? How is the footwork when he drops back from under center? Are exchanges to the running backs clean? Is he going through his reads? Is he getting rid of the ball on time? Is he throwing catchable passes and making good decisions based on the read? How is he handling pocket pressure?

Results are important, but results take the entire team. I expect Love to have some plays that are rough and he hopefully learns from. I also think the offense will be productive. Will the Packers win or lose, will it be pretty or ugly, I don't know. I'm just excited to see where Love is at with this great opportunity for live, regular season snaps.

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ImaPayne's picture

November 04, 2021 at 12:31 pm

First, they arent going to have Love do much other then hand the ball off. KC knows that too.
Second, his timing and conditioning will be in question since he probably gets very few reps to get his heart started. KC knows this too.
Third. He knows he wont be a replacement for the current QB yahoo, so this is only a rehearsal for the future.
Fourth. KC is getting better and the D is very good pass rushing for Love will have his hands full.
Fifth. Love has been immunized. LOL

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Packers0808's picture

November 04, 2021 at 02:33 pm

No Love has NOT been immunized, he has been VACCINATED! There is a gigantic difference, just ask the "Man Bun"!

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arizonayahoo07@gmail.com's picture

November 04, 2021 at 01:55 pm

How Americans can resist coronavirus shot mandates – a comprehensive guide
Here is a comprehensive list of resources, including sample exemption letters, for Americans seeking relief from forced coronavirus injections.... This is for everyone.....

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/resources-for-americans-pushing-back-a...

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Packers0808's picture

November 04, 2021 at 02:37 pm

Why would you put your lopsided Bullshit on this sports page?

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arizonayahoo07@gmail.com's picture

November 04, 2021 at 05:01 pm

because the world is much much larger than the greenbay packers. Aaron Rogers is obviously intelligent enough to know vaxxinations are John D Rockefeller Big Pharma's weapon for population reductions... He took the time to research the issues.. Did You? I don't think you did outside watching boob tube tv..I feel sorry for you ignorant folks.. did you vote for Biden? I did not, i voted for Trump the man who won the presidency.....

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Packers0808's picture

November 04, 2021 at 07:14 pm

You are exactly the reason this nation has gone down the tubes in the 4 years! Who I or anyone voted for is their business except for fools who come and tell how really uninformed they are with their covid foolishness and especially the one they voted for. And yes researched covid more than you did seeing it is the field in which I did a lot of work research! Like I said before only fools go on sports pages with politics!

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jannes bjornson's picture

November 04, 2021 at 09:47 pm

Have you confirmed those hallucinations with Q, or prayed with/paid the Rev. Pik Pocket for his ribald revelations?

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Irish_Cheesehead's picture

November 04, 2021 at 02:38 pm

What Does 'Covidiot' Mean, and Who Qualifies as One?

https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus/what-do...

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LeotisHarris's picture

November 04, 2021 at 04:18 pm

Is a photo of Herman Cain on the cover of the "comprehensive guide?"

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Hematite's picture

November 05, 2021 at 09:59 am

You, young man, are disgusting!!!

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Minniman's picture

November 04, 2021 at 02:17 pm

Something that may affect the ability to run the game which is not being spoken much is the health of the Packers D line.

Keke and Lowry did not practice on Wednesday, so it will be interesting to see where they show up on the Friday Injury Report.

Sure, luckily Clark, Smith, Gary and Mercilus are all healthy, but Keke and (predominantly) Lowry have been key pieces to managing opponents pocket in GB's favor and being able to get off the field.

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CWolf's picture

November 04, 2021 at 02:38 pm

About the Lions... I obviously don't want them to be too successful, but I'm feeling sorry for Jamaal Williams.

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4thand10's picture

November 04, 2021 at 03:31 pm

This was a good article. As many others have mentioned this is Loves chance in real game action. I believe if the defense does their part, the offense runs all over KC , plus Loves throwing and scrambling ability that we saw in preseason…we have a chance. As a side note I could not be more than happy with Bojo .The punting has been fantastic. I’m also a fan of Dominique Daffney and of course Big Dog…so I hope to see a little TE action as well…really push around that KC defense. I think this will be a fun one to watch.

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BAMABADGER's picture

November 04, 2021 at 09:10 pm

Just excited to see Jordan Love operate with the first team. Something we have yet to see in two seasons. GPG!!

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Letfreedomring's picture

November 06, 2021 at 01:30 pm

As the Packers get destroyed the Rodgers haters will be begging for Godgers to come back. Rodgers will win MVP without even playing a snap this week.

All the Karens are mad at Rodgers for standing up for human rights. Now the NFL has cost this team with their discriminatory rules. Rodgers must sue the NFL for discrimination against the Civil Rights Act. All others who are complaining that Rodgers decieved you well too bad it's none of your business anyways. Stop forcing your beliefs and your agenda on Rodgers. He's standing up for himself and other players. I almost bought into the hatred of this man when I listened to the mainstream media years ago but the more I listened to him on the Pat Macafee show the more I found out it was all lies and hatred.

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