Look at What They Could Do, Before What They Have Done

When a new player joins the team, their previous slate should be cleared

It was five years ago, and I remember it well when the Commissioner took the stage and announced, "With the 12th pick, in the 2019 NFL Draft, the Green Bay Packers select, Rashan Gary, Linebacker, Michigan." This was one of the first drafts in a while that I hadn't researched many players. I was only a month or so removed from finding out I was going to be a Dad for the first time, and that's all that was on my mind. When I went to look at the analysis of the pick, I saw a lot of commentary that Rashan Gary was an athletic freak but would be a project pass rusher for the Packers. Instantly the comments rolled in. So many couldn't believe the Packers had just selected a pass rusher at 12th overall who only had 9.5 sacks his entire college career. Not to mention only 3.5 the previous season. An avalanche of fans didn't even want to give Rashan Gary a chance at all, they hated the pick from the start. 

Within three seasons, Rashan Gary had shattered his college numbers with 17 sacks his first three years. Ten in his third year, and nearly matched it in 2023 with nine. Even when Gary wasn't getting in on the stat sheet, he was still wreaking havoc on Quarterbacks with hits and hurries. He's been our best pass rusher since dare I say the Lambeau Legend that donned Gary's number directly before him, Clay Matthews? And it's all because the Packers didn't look at his college stats of what he had done. They looked at Rashan Gary for what they believed he could do. 

That is how every potential draft pick or even free agent should be evaluated. Did they have outstanding production on their previous team? Yes? Great, but can they do the same for us? Did they not have a good stat sheet or overall view? No? Well, perhaps we need to look at the reasons. Were they a victim of poor schemes, or even poor tutelage? Could our staff bring out their full potential? All of this needs to factor into any player selection. Bringing in a player that put up mind-numbing stats of course is exciting, but they have yet to do that for the Packers, so it takes a careful eye in evaluation to ensure we can get the same production, or even better. 

Recently, there have been two players lacking those past positive results who have been talked about in many outlets in the last week including this one. Coincidentally, they both play Offensive Tackle.

Andre Dillard was signed on Thursday to join the Packers just before the draft. Dillard is a former first-round, 22nd overall pick of the Eagles in 2019. After his contract expired with the Eagles, he joined the Tennessee Titans for 2023 before now being signed by the Packers. Titans media is unfortunately shredding Dillard alive stating the Packers must be essentially out of their minds to sign Dillard as he was awful for them. Which, in honesty, he was. Dillard tied for the most sacks allowed in 2023 with 12.  But, Dillard is another one of those physically and athletically gifted players that perhaps as mentioned before, could benefit from the right tutelage. Perhaps in the Packers' scheme, with a staff that has experience with reviving players Dillard's first-round potential can finally be unlocked. 

The second player I'm talking about is Amarius Mims, a potential first-round pick by way of Georgia. Mims just might be the most athletically gifted lineman we've seen in a while. The knock on Mims though, is that he's only started eight games. He has a fairly large lack of experience. That is one of the reasons why no matter what his potential could be, some fans view him as a project and they don't want that right now. They want an immediate answer to the questions and nothing else. But this pick again, wouldn't be about now, it would be about the future. Perhaps the Packers feel comfortable with Zach Tom and Rasheed Walker at the ends of the O-line, but a year from now Mims could be ready to take over for 10 years into the future. 

They've made it work many times before.

Rashan Gary isn't the only project the Packers have made work. In October 2021, the Packers signed Rasul Douglas off the Cardinals' practice squad. Douglas turned his career around and became one of the best corners. Douglas' performance had slipped in previous years but the Packers saw something in him that led them to believe his past performances didn't apply to them and Douglas took off into near-All Pro form. The Packers' social media had to deal with many "who cares, big deal" comments after Douglas was signed, but after his success, perhaps some should've given his potential a chance over his past. 

Potentially one of the best "ignore the past, embrace the future" stories in this matter comes from the trade for Brett Favre. The Atlanta Falcons coaching staff deemed Brett Favre a traveling circus. They'd place bets as to how far their draft pick could throw it and never gave him a decent chance, but they'd never really pay the consequences for not embracing the future until it was too late. Packers GM Ron Wolf saw potential in Favre and pulled the trigger on a trade. With the right tutelage from Mike Holmgren among others, Brett Favre became one of the greatest of all time making the Falcons eat their words and regret not taking the time to truly develop Favre. 

I know it's hard. I know that you want that awesome film to be excited about on night 1. But going into this week's draft, I implore you all to take a look at whomever the Packers pick and think about what they could bring to the table. Don't hang on to what they did in college. Hang on what they could do in Green and Gold. That will help you look forward to the season much more.   

 

 

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Greg Meinholz is a lifelong devoted Packer fan. A contributor to CheeseheadTV as well as PackersTalk. Follow him on Twitter @gmeinholz for Packers commentary, random humor, beer endorsements, and occasional Star Wars and Marvel ramblings.

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stockholder's picture

April 21, 2024 at 06:49 am

"A man must know his destiny....
If he does not recognize it, then he is lost."-G. Patton

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Alberta_Packer's picture

April 21, 2024 at 03:59 pm

Unfortunately Patton's limousine driver did not recognize a left-turning army truck quick enough - plowing into it - mortally injuring Patton. Probably not the fate that Patton envisionned.

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Johnblood27's picture

April 22, 2024 at 07:54 am

Eisenhower picked Pattons driver...

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Coldworld's picture

April 21, 2024 at 06:58 am

If a player shows they can play at a high level in the pros, then how they got here is irrelevant. That is undoubtedly true.
However, until that point what they have or have not done is not expunged or forgotten.

If a player can’t win with the skills one drafts him for in college, there needs to be s very plausible and convincing reason why that was before drafting him. That includes physical maturity as well as mental, health, opportunities, technical training and, as in the case of Gary, understanding what his role was in college.

The NFL is the top 2% of college players with more physical development and experience. To believe any player can win in it, without having done so in college requires a cold, dispassionate basis for believing that what held him back can be overcome with reasonable probability or simply won’t apply due to changes in role.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

April 21, 2024 at 08:36 am

Thank you for adding that bit of sanity! So, what do you know along these lines about Andre Dillard?

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Coldworld's picture

April 21, 2024 at 09:25 am

Maybe he can play G?

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Gman1976's picture

April 21, 2024 at 12:00 pm

That's a BIG MAYBE since he has had years in the NFL to learn & grow & practice his trade, and has not succeeded. Hopefully, a switch goes off in his heart/mind and he is finally able to put it all together with his great athleticism & have success.

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dobber's picture

April 22, 2024 at 07:58 am

We can say the same thing about Rasul Douglas. He flashed as a rookie, but was getting exposed enough after that Philly eventually let him go. He knocked around with Carolina for a season, but couldn't make the 53 in Houston, Las Vegas, or Arizona. He found the right place and situation to get himself back on track in GB.

Sometimes it's finding the right circumstance (coaching staff, scheme, teammates)...sometimes it's realizing you're circling the drain on the way out of the league, and this might be your last opportunity. That realization sometimes brings the best out of guys who suddenly realize the opportunity they have.

Dillard has probably gotten more opportunities because of his draft status, yes. There are plenty of players who profile like Dillard who were drafted about that time who are currently delivering furniture. At some point--if he really wants to be in the league--he's going to realize he's also circling the drain and that he needs to make it happen.

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Bitternotsour's picture

April 22, 2024 at 08:17 am

Did anyone on this board scout the guy? No. Our pro personnel decided he was worth the paper, and now we get to actually use our eyes to evaluate what he is, not the imaginings of what he was. Rasul is a perfect example - well done.

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Coldworld's picture

April 22, 2024 at 11:35 am

Plenty of film to evaluate Dillard in terms of what he’s actually done. He’s been heavily scrutinized for a long time and has played a lot of snaps in plenty of games.

Douglas was a guy who didn’t work out immediately, got squeezed out by numbers, bounced around and struggled to get real opportunities. Radically different back stories and scenarios.

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Johnblood27's picture

April 22, 2024 at 07:55 am

Jerry Glanville said Dillard could be a box safety... just sayin'...

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Untylu1968's picture

April 21, 2024 at 07:01 am

"Haters gonna hate"-3LW

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Guam's picture

April 21, 2024 at 07:30 am

While the author has a legitimate point about acquiring potential versus production, I think his example of Dillard is a serious stretch. Dillard not only got four years of college coaching at Washington State, he got four years of pro coaching at Philadelphia and another year of pro coaching with the Titans. To believe that the Packer coaching staff is so superior that they can get performance where two other pro coaching staffs have not is arrogant.

Dillard, approaching his sixth year in the league, has likely achieved his maximum performance level. Guys like Gary and Mims had/have a great deal more growth potential, partly due to age/maturation and partly due to the benefits of full time pro coaching.

You draft for potential, but you acquire multi-year veterans for experience and production. Hopefully Dillard's production is adequate to replace Nijman's role with the team.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

April 21, 2024 at 08:42 am

Dillard doesn't need to directly replace Nijman for this to be a worthwhile signing.

What are his contract details? Do they allow him to be cut during TC if he washes out? What else do we know about him that might make him better (or worse) than could be expected of a say fifth rounder?

Also, that word "arrogant:" in the context of football, and especially a lineman, I do not think it means what you think it means. It's damned arrogant to line up across from your opponent and think you might somehow win.

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Guam's picture

April 21, 2024 at 09:41 am

SST: I used the word arrogant in reference to the author who seems to believe the Green Bay coaching staff can or should get significantly more from Dillard than either the Philadelphia or Tennessee coaching staffs did.

Unless they plan on moving Dillard to guard how would he not be a direct replacement for Nijman? Baring a complete turnaround I can't see Dillard replacing either Walker or Tom. The Packers already have three developmental tackles on the roster (Jones, Tenuta and Telfort). So what role would Dillard have other than Nijman's?

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Bitternotsour's picture

April 21, 2024 at 09:18 am

Guam, I think you're being a little bit hard on the Beaver.

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Guam's picture

April 21, 2024 at 10:02 am

I know these authors provide free articles for CHTV so perhaps I shouldn't be so critical, but some of their logic just escapes me. Draft status and potential mean very little after five years in the league. It is your actual play that defines you and Dillard has not been good as a starter. I just hope he will be good enough to take the reserve swing tackle role.

Unless they acquired Dillard to play guard, this acquisition also doesn't speak well of Jones, Tenuta and Telfort. There could be wholesale changes in the Packer reserve linemen this year.

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Oppy's picture

April 21, 2024 at 11:03 am

Guam,

agree whole-heartedly. It's the draftnik mentality; some of these people are just locked into the idea that the big boards of the draft gurus are the bible and some of them have it so ingrained that it never occurs to them that the projection and speculation of the draft board has zero to do with the real-world production of the players once they've entered the league.

I just posted in another comment elsewhere, I do think the Packers could be assessing Dillard for a role on special teams units because he is very athletic, and just to have around camp as a body who knows how to be a professional.

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GregC's picture

April 21, 2024 at 12:05 pm

I don't think 300-pounders ever have an important role on special teams. They block for the field goal team, and that's about it. That's like a two-second block in the middle of the line.

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Oppy's picture

April 21, 2024 at 01:42 pm

Punt and FG units- having a big man who can move goes a long way in protection schemes. It can also potentially keep another more valuable OL off the field for those snaps.

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dobber's picture

April 22, 2024 at 08:07 am

"Unless they acquired Dillard to play guard, this acquisition also doesn't speak well of Jones, Tenuta and Telfort. There could be wholesale changes in the Packer reserve linemen this year."

I don't think it reflects much on those guys. I think it's a GM bringing in a veteran--like him, or not--prior to the draft who has real service time in the league. People seem to crap on Dillard, but he does raise the quality of the OL room right now. Prior to this, it's starters, a bunch of UDFAs, and Newman--and everyone wants him gone. The guy still has to win a spot on the 53--just like Tavarious Moore at S last year (another pre-draft reclamation project at a position of weakness). It's a low-risk signing.

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Johnblood27's picture

April 22, 2024 at 07:59 am

Hey, Eddie, did the Warden give you the fish-eye or sumthin? Why take Guam to task for beating up the Beaver a bit?

"Ward, have you seen the Beaver?"
"Not often enough, June..."

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Bitternotsour's picture

April 22, 2024 at 08:19 am

I did always identify with Eddie (a fact not lost on my friends mothers in my Racine neighborhood). In retrospect, I may have to discuss this with my therapist.

By the way, you're looking lovely today Mrs. Cleaver.

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LambeauPlain's picture

April 21, 2024 at 08:11 am

"When a new player joins the team, their previous slate should be cleared"

Really. Then how do you coach them up...minimize demonstrated weakness, maximize strengths?

The best indicator of future performance are past results.

To compare Mims with Gary or even Favre is silly. Gary played in all 13 games as a freshman at MI, was a first team all B1G as a sophomore, and even played through a banged up shoulder as a Jr. and produced. Favre threw for almost 8,000 and 52 TDs at So. Miss. (Glanville just hated him for some reason).

Mims was a 5 star recruit who only cracked the starting lineup as a JUNIOR and then for only 8 games and missed many others due to injury...then declared for the draft based on his "potential". Day 3 draft project at best.

Dillard is like Douglas? Was Douglas viewed as one of the worst players at his position in the NFL? Dillard is as a LT and his slate is so filled with increasingly poor performance, to wipe it clean would be a great disservice to the young man. Is what he is doing wrong correctable? He is a reclamation project and mostly a kick the tires hire. His odds of making the 53 are slim.

I hope Dillard does well and wows the coaches but he's going to have to do so quickly. This is likely his last gasp. And I hope the Bears select Mims in the first round.

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HarryHodag's picture

April 21, 2024 at 08:14 am

One thing the so-called 'draft experts' forget is level of competition. I applaud Gute for trying to hire players from major colleges, for the most part. Players from Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan, etc. play a level of college ball that mirrors NFL caliber play. On occasion you will find a player or two from lesser competition. But even with all the the higher-level college play, rookies find the NFL to be a step beyond what they experienced.
The Packers are one of the few teams that like to develop players before launching them into the fire.(some exceptions like Eric Stokes).
The NFL draftniks assume that if you played well at Tulane you can step right in and play in the NFL. I think that is simply wrong.

The 'draft and develop' protocol will become the wave of the future. With the kind of money being tossed at free agents now going that route too often leads to cap hell and no guarantee of winning. Drafting a player and letting them grow is more cost effective and leads to greater team continuity.

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GregC's picture

April 21, 2024 at 02:12 pm

Not sure which "draft experts" you are reading, but the ones I read (which I pretty much pick at random) constantly mention the level of competition as a major factor in evaluation.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

April 21, 2024 at 08:34 am

The Andre Dillard signing is GREAT news! Even if he never lives up to first round status, right now it takes significant pressure off Gutey to need to draft perfectly, giving him some room to take BPA. That might help the team more than Dillard ever does, which would be ok.

Obviously it would be better if Dillard takes off and is a monster on our O line for many years.

GPG!

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Bitternotsour's picture

April 21, 2024 at 09:07 am

Even if lowly graded by whomever the grader might be, the guy is an NFL body, in a position of need, and he's managed to not just hang on in the NFL but to start at arguably one of the most important and valued positions in the game. The ground game in Tennessee is not dissimilar to GB's. He comes in with a NFL level brain and body. He would need to improve to be an average starting tackle, but we don't need a starting tackle, we need depth. If the front office likes him, I like him.

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Turophile's picture

April 21, 2024 at 12:32 pm

He's been a total disappointment so far, so don't expect much. If you get something akin to Yosh Nijman, that would do. He might show more, but he is 29 and this is last chance saloon for him.

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Untylu1968's picture

April 21, 2024 at 12:34 pm

The overreaction to signing Dillard is just a warmer upper for the overreaction that'll be coming draft time. The complaint department will be working overtime come Friday night..

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Johnblood27's picture

April 22, 2024 at 08:03 am

you think gutey is gonna trade outta the first round?

If not, the complaining will begin Thursday night!!!

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Bitternotsour's picture

April 22, 2024 at 08:26 am

Complaining is our birthright (apparently)

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LeotisHarris's picture

April 21, 2024 at 08:57 am

A change of scenery and a fresh start can sometimes produce different outcomes, but, for the most part, no matter where you go, there you are. Travel as far away as you like, you'll never get away from yourself.

"Past performance is a solid predictor of future success." -- William Howard Taft

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Bitternotsour's picture

April 21, 2024 at 09:09 am

Look at you quoting Murakami. What an interesting board this is. Green Bay football besides being a Wisconsin birthright is a gathering space for disparate souls.

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Ferrari-Driver's picture

April 21, 2024 at 09:57 am

William Howard Taft was a big man and when he talked, people listened. Of course he was about 5'11" and weighed 350 pounds, so that tended to get people's attention.

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Oppy's picture

April 21, 2024 at 10:47 am

Wasn't it Taft who got himself stuck in the Whitehouse bathtub and required a pretty good amount of work to get him out?

I believe it is the reason the WH bathtub is now a very large oversized tub.

History is fun, sometimes.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

April 21, 2024 at 04:27 pm

Wonder what was his RAS?

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Oppy's picture

April 21, 2024 at 07:46 pm

fantastic comment!

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dobber's picture

April 22, 2024 at 08:27 am

"Wonder what was his RAS?"

Oversized?

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Alberta_Packer's picture

April 22, 2024 at 11:58 am

The T'Vondre Sweat (politically) of his day?

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Johnblood27's picture

April 22, 2024 at 08:04 am

"Past performance is no guarantee of future success"

Every brokerage house and broker ever.

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Bitternotsour's picture

April 22, 2024 at 08:28 am

you know what is a guarantee of future success? inheriting generational wealth. i don't understand why more people don't subscribe to it.

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Pack88's picture

April 21, 2024 at 10:02 am

The author confuses two issues one college production and pro production.
In college the player could spend most of his career playing against future lumber salesmen from Home Depot or Lowe's, or you could play alongside generational talents, or so many uber talented teammates your skill-set is never challenged.

In the professional world the talent level is significantly enhanced and the other teams ability to highlight your shortcomings is enhanced multi fold. Now I do not have a great depth of knowledge of Andre Dillard but his lack of adequate play is concerning. Douglass is not a good example- In Phila he was an agressive penalty machine made better by GB's passive approach to defense. Think about Jason Spriggs, an athletic marvel who could not play football. Perhaps Dillard has a fundamental issue that GB believes it can correct or more likely like Sprigss he cannot play football at a high level

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Oppy's picture

April 21, 2024 at 11:23 am

"In college the player could spend most of his career playing against future lumber salesmen from Home Depot or Lowe's, or you could play alongside generational talents, or so many uber talented teammates your skill-set is never challenged. "

So overlooked and misunderstood by so many when it comes to the art of projecting how a collegiate player will perform in the pros.

People should consider that there's 261 Division 1 Football teams in the NCAA. If you only consider the starting players on offense and defense, that's 22 x 261 = 5,742 starters in DIV1 football.

In this upcoming draft, there will be 224 young men drafted. That's only the top 3.9% of the starting players in DIV1 NCAA football.

Now start to consider that DIV1 schools are allowed to hand out up to 85 scholarships each. in 2023, the average roster size was 118 players.. that means while there were 5,742 starters, there was a total pool of 30,798 total players in the NCAA DIV1 pool. That's a whole lot of lumber salesmen, lol.

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Johnblood27's picture

April 22, 2024 at 08:06 am

Hey, someone has to bring the wood to all of those panhellenic parties...

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Bitternotsour's picture

April 22, 2024 at 08:30 am

jesus, you're on a roll today.

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Johnblood27's picture

April 23, 2024 at 03:09 pm

Just call me butta cuz Im always on a roll!

...and you don't have to call me Jesus...

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dobber's picture

April 22, 2024 at 08:54 am

...bringing the math on a Sunday afternoon!

QUIZ ON MONDAY!

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Leatherhead's picture

April 21, 2024 at 10:42 am

I always ignore past performance when I invest

No, that’s not true.

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Bitternotsour's picture

April 21, 2024 at 09:44 pm

sometimes you have to play a hunch

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Leatherhead's picture

April 22, 2024 at 12:03 pm

I have a hunch that I don't want to be old without money.

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Bitternotsour's picture

April 22, 2024 at 12:34 pm

as a person who didn't inherit old money, i join that particular hunch.

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bean's picture

April 21, 2024 at 11:14 am

Another take on the Dillard signing. The packers see everything we see and they are aware Dillard isn't a tackle. But, how do you feel about taking the 22nd pick in the first round of the 2018 draft with a RAS of 9+ and seeing if he can beat out your 2nd string, 3rd year right guard? That I'm optimistic about. Actually, I'm pretty confident the packers can do that far more easily than fixing his challenges at tackle. Dillard in all likelihood will be the starting right guard be the start of preseason.

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Johnblood27's picture

April 22, 2024 at 08:07 am

Rhyan is firmly ahead of Dillard at the RG position right now.

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gsd3's picture

April 21, 2024 at 11:26 am

Very serious stretch to compare either Dillard or Mims to Rashan Gary. Gary was a diamond in the rough whose best attributes came to the fore through good coaching and hard work.
Dillard is an under achiever. Plain and simple. Hopefully the staff can bring something out, when you are graded worse than Ross Newman something is wrong.
Mims? Is he all of a sudden going to not be hurt? Couldn't even make it through the combine.

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Johnblood27's picture

April 22, 2024 at 08:10 am

Do you mean Alfred E. Newman (Mark Murphy?)

or...

Jerry Sienfeld's Newman?

or...

Royce Newman?

I do not know of any Ross Newman...

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PhantomII's picture

April 21, 2024 at 11:56 am

From what I have seen Dillard is a good run blocker. A decent pass blocker most of the time and runs into trouble poorly setting his hands occasionally and the defender makes him pay because of it. GB will fix that the way they always do by using TE's to cover OL weaknesses which will eventually cause us to lose to better defenses who can cover less offensive players running routes while we have to stay back blocking. I would try him at guard in the run game exclusively...now that we have a more traditional run game, he should do well there. He is a big athletic player.

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April 21, 2024 at 12:30 pm

Last season Dillard was not even a decent pass blocker. He was terrible.

If he moves inside and gets help on the flanks, maybe his career can be saved. It could be a short stay in Green Bay. The coaches will definitely look at his "slate" and find coaching points correct him. They certainly will not ignore his past results. That would be coaching malfeasance.

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dobber's picture

April 22, 2024 at 08:24 am

True, but that whole Tennessee OL was a train wreck. Lots of injuries and moving pieces.

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golfpacker1's picture

April 21, 2024 at 12:22 pm

The Gary draft pick is funny and gratifying for me. A really good friend of mine who loves the draft as much as I do, is a diehard Michigan and Bears fan. When Gary was mocked to us before that draft, my friend cautioned that Gary was overrated and had really underperformed @ Michigan. He actually said he would feel bad for me if GB drafted Gary, even though as a Bears fan he hopes GB falls into a black hole. Well, what the hell, we picked him, and he has turned out to be a stud so it pissed my buddy off twice as much.

That's the beauty of the draft, you might score or you might $hit the bed with who you pick. That's part of why I hate trading up, you waste valuable draft capitol and even having a Top 10 pick doesn't guarantee you get a real good player.

Let the draft come to us, we should get a good player at a position of need @ #25, or trade back for more premium picks and make our first pick a little later. We are close to being a complete team.

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PhantomII's picture

April 21, 2024 at 03:10 pm

Gary has yet to reach his potential...His ACL injury has stymied his rise, just when he was in a conversation of an Elite edge rusher...Hopefully with a great off-season training regimen he can get there this year. GPG

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Johnblood27's picture

April 22, 2024 at 08:12 am

He got paid like he has reached his ceiling...

GB frequently overpays their own from fear of losing out...

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dobber's picture

April 22, 2024 at 07:51 am

"That's part of why I hate trading up, you waste valuable draft capitol "

I think of trading up in the early rounds as either a finishing move (your roster is so complete that you can take a stab at a guy you think is going to give you that extra oomph to get over the top) or a sign of the GM trying to beat the draft--or, if you're Ryan Pace, trying to use a flashy move to save your job. The GM has to be so sure that the player he selects is a winner that he's willing to call attention to his pick by mortgaging other resources. It's hard to outsmart the draft.

"Let the draft come to us, we should get a good player at a position of need "

Agreed. There should be plenty of good options at 25, and several different ways to go in terms of draft strategy, if they choose to use that pick. A couple reports out there say the Packers are listening to preliminary trade down offers, but not making connex to deal up. I'm reassured by that.

"We are close to being a complete team."

Without knowing how last year's group will transition to the new D, I think the starters on both sides of the ball are promising in most places. I think the depth is lacking at several...hence the Dillard signing: he profiles as this year's Ricky Wagner or Dennis Kelly. Maybe he swings inside...maybe he gets pushed off the roster at cutdowns. Whatever the case, the rest of the league is moving and getting better. The Packers need to aggressively get better, too.

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TKWorldWide's picture

April 22, 2024 at 07:58 am

Personally, when I need that extra oomph to get me over the top, I turn it up to eleven.

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Johnblood27's picture

April 22, 2024 at 08:13 am

Cialis is also an option...

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dobber's picture

April 22, 2024 at 08:25 am

Better living through chemistry!

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TKWorldWide's picture

April 22, 2024 at 08:55 am

Also in favor.

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Turophile's picture

April 21, 2024 at 12:29 pm

I do like the idea of a developmental OT, since we have perfectly good starters at OT right now.

However, my developmental choice should be available about a round and a half later than Mims. (late round 2 to very early 3rd compared to Mims mid-first round).
Kiran Amegadjie. 6'5", 323, exceptional first step, huge long arms (over 36"), flexible hips, good footwork, understands blocking schemes, tremendous upside. He needs a little work on his run blocking but he has everything you want to see in a tackle.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

April 21, 2024 at 04:24 pm

I think that it's much about hope. With the young Mims - I hope that he's as good as he has looked and played. With the veteran Dillard - I hope that he's not as bad as he has looked and played.

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MitchAnthony's picture

April 21, 2024 at 09:07 pm

Ferrari-Driver
April 21, 2024 at 09:57 am

"William Howard Taft was a big man and when he talked, people listened. Of course he was about 5'11" and weighed 350 pounds, so that tended to get people's attention."

Taft would have been too short at 511 and too heavy at 350 for Green Bay's o-line metrics. I think his arms taped at 31 inches as well. Easy pass on William Howard Taft. :)

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Johnblood27's picture

April 22, 2024 at 08:15 am

You completely misunderstood when it was said that Taft would make an inviting target...

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