Malik Taylor Is Becoming A Problem

He's playing too good to cut, but is there room for him?

When this training camp began, the wide receiver unit for the Packers looked pretty straightforward.  You had Davante Adams, Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Allen Lazard, Randall Cobb and rookie Amari Rodgers as locks.  If you choose to keep six, Devin Funchess and Equanimeous St. Brown would compete for that spot.  After that, you pick two or three to fit comfortably on to the practice squad among Malik Taylor, Reggie Begelton, Juwann Winfree and Chris Blair. 

 

Two preseason games in, most everything was going according to plan.  EQ has had trouble getting and staying on the field, while Funchess had a big first game against Houston and showed he is capable of being a key player in this offense.  So that battle seems pretty much decided.  Funchess stays, EQ probably goes.  Winfree flashed mightily in early camp, but an injury has shelved him as well, so he fits nicely to the PS, along with probably Begelton.  Blair is likely out.  Nice and neat.  Right? 

 

But then there is Malik Taylor.  The third year veteran out of tiny Ferris State was expected to go quietly into the night after the drafting of Rodgers and the signing of Cobb.  After all, he spent the entire 2019 season on Green Bay’s practice squad, and was a deep reserve on last year ‘s team, finishing with five catches for 66 yards and one touchdown.  Contributed a bit on special teams, even had nine kickoff returns.  But really, with the new talent in the receiver room, no way Taylor hangs on to make this roster, right? 

 

Well, somebody better tell him.  Because he’s playing like a star.  Yep.  He’s becoming a real problem.  The problem being, there’s no room for him, and yet, his play is kicking in the door and screaming “Let me in.”   

 

After posting five catches for 50 yards against the Texans, Taylor put on a show Saturday afternoon against the Jets.  In the first quarter, Kurt Benkert dropped back to pass, got immediate pressure up the middle, and bailed out of the pocket to his right.  Just before going out of bounds, he launched a dart down the near sideline.  Taylor, running hard toward the boundary, caught the ball cleanly but appeared to get only one foot down in bounds, and the pass was ruled incomplete.  But replay clearly showed that Taylor, spectacularly, dragged the toe of his trailing foot inside the line while falling down, despite having C.J. Moseley on his back.  The call was overturned and it was a brilliant 23 yard gain. 

 

In the second quarter, on third and eight, Taylor runs down the right sideline, stops on a dime, and, with defensive back Bryce Hall’s arms wrapped around his waist,  catches a nine yard throw from Benkert for a clutch first down. 

 

Later in the same drive, it’s third and five at the Jets 35.  Taylor streaks down the left sideline, but is well covered by Isaiah Dunn, who is stride for stride with him.  Benkert loops the pass behind them.  Taylor glances back, jumps in the air, twists his body, and snatches the ball for a 21 yard pickup and another first down.  

 

In quarter three, third and eight from Green Bay’s own 36, Taylor beats tight press coverage by Lamar Jackson, reels in another throw, breaks the tackle, and picks up 13 yards to keep yet another drive alive.  He finished with four receptions for 66 yards, every catch a critical play. 

 

That is the kind of performance the coaches can’t ignore.  If the former small college standout can play that way with third stringer Benkert throwing to him, they have to imagine what he could do with Aaron Rodgers on the other end.  If Malik shows well in the final preseason game at Buffalo, they are going to have to make room for him.  If they cut him and try to pass him through waivers to the PS, he surely has put enough on film to motivate a receiver-starved team, like the Jets who got an eyeful of him Saturday, to put in a claim. 

 

Seven receivers?  That’s going to cost you a spot somewhere else.  Maybe there’s enough versatility on the offensive line to get by with seven.  Maybe you cut back at safety or corner.  Maybe you try to trade him and get a low pick in return.  But you gotta do something.  This guy deserves a spot on the team. 

 

This guy is a problem.  The pleasant kind. 

 

WINNERS 

Ben Braden played the entire game at right tackle and held up well.  Yosh Nijman was noticeably improved from a shaky performance in game one.  They both need to show well in game three at Buffalo to solidify their standing. 

 

Nobody needed a positive play more badly than tight end Jace Sternberger.  After hearing critical remarks for his inconsistent play from his position coach, Sternberger dropped a third down pass on which he couldn’t disengage from his defender, then was cut down for no gain on a flare to the right.  But in the second quarter he ran a sharp curl out toward the back of the end zone and Benkert dropped a perfect TD pass into his lap.  Combined with the long pass he reeled in the previous week, it’s the kind of potential that keeps the coaches from giving up on him. 

 

Turn out the lights.  The battle for the number three running back spot is over.  Kylin Hill’s touchdown run should have sewed it up.  He impressively broke a tackle behind the line of scrimmage and then showed burst and speed around the edge, lowering his shoulder to power past the last defender into the end zone.   He was again over four yards per carry, and had a 19 yard run called back.  Patrick Taylor ran better, and led the team with 48 yards on the ground, but he and Dexter Williams are clearly not going to overtake Hill for the job. 

 

 

If it were not for the presence of Jordan Love, Benkert would be worth developing as a back-up quarterback.  He moves well, throws hard, and makes more good decisions than bad.  But he is not as physically gifted as Love, and his low ceiling probably will prevent him from being a starter. 

 

 

 

LOSERS 

 

Pretty much everybody who played in the defensive secondary.  Nobody looked good.  The low point was two spectacular whiffs by Kabion Ento.  Eric Stokes had a nice PBU on Corey Davis, but that was after Davis had burned him for 24 yards, three plays earlier. 

 

 

Guard Lucas Patrick continues to struggle, with two holding calls, one of them nullifying that 19 yard rush from Kylin Hill.  J.K. Scott’s 21 yard punt isn’t going to help stem the criticism directed toward him. 

 

 

HIGHLIGHT OF THE GAME 

 

John Kuhn’s sideline interview with Aaron Rodgers may have been the most entertaining in-game interview I’ve ever seen.  Rodgers played most of it tongue-in-cheek as he kidded Kuhn about learning everything he knows from the former fullback.  Earlier in the game, Benkert fell twice after tripping over guard Royce Newman, who had been shoved back into him.  Rodgers joked that Newman “better get that you-know-what out of the way because if I’m out there we’re gonna have some words for sure.”  He sarcastically told Kuhn that he would be the first to know if Rodgers got the reopened Jeopardy hosting job.  And he openly admired the mullet hairdos on both sides.  They had me rolling on the floor laughing.  More of that please. 

 

  

   

 

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Ken Lass is a former Green Bay television sports anchor and 43 year media veteran, a lifelong Packers fan, and a shareholder.

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NickPerry's picture

August 23, 2021 at 06:39 am

When Taylor was balling out Saturday afternoon I was thinking the same thing. After week one it was IF the Packers keep six WR's, then it's gotta be Funchess right? Taylor had played okay but it was Funchess who stood out. After the Jets game I'm not so sure. Now IF the Packers feel Taylor might offer more versatility than Funchess, (and he does play ST), maybe it's Funchess they should try and trade.

With the number of TE's the Packers are likely to keep, 7 WR's are going to be a tough sell. With MLF's LOVE for the TE position it makes it tougher. Personally I think the TE's they keep are Big Bob, Lewis, Deguara, Daffney, and Sternberger. With Sternberger's suspension they may keep 7 WR's to start but when week 3 rolls around it will be either Funchess, Taylor, Sternberger, or maybe Daffney either cut, traded, or put on the PS. Just my thoughts but it's a quality problem to have.

DUDE...Kylin Hill is a STUD... I figured Gute and the Packers had themselves another steel when they drafted Hill in the 7th but wow! I know its the preseason and he's playing against guys who will be working anywhere other than a football field on Sundays. BUT, he's also running behind a line of guys who at best are 2nd, 3rd, or PS candidate's themselves. As much as I love AJ Dillion, Kylin Hill just might steal both some of Dillions and Aaron Jones reps during the regular season. MORE quality problems!

I love THIS team!

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packerbackerjim's picture

August 23, 2021 at 07:38 am

It would not surprise me if a trade or trades occur after this next exhibition game. The return won’t be great but I would think other rosters don’t have the level of talent GB has. Their GMs might roll the dice and see who the Packers release, but some might not want to take their chances. Could be interesting.

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murf7777's picture

August 23, 2021 at 08:31 am

The big question is what do other teams have that will be on their 53 and PS. At this point, Funchess>Taylor. I’d keep Funchess and try to put Taylor on the PS.

Also, we must keep in mind, many WR look good in practice and/or exhibition games, but don’t show it when live bullets start and must prove themselves against #1 Defenses.

The other reason I’d keep Funchess is because we are all in this year. Our SC will be problematic next year and we will lose some key players. Funchess gives us the best chance to win now.

I don’t think Taylor has any trade value. There are many Taylors in the league.

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Minniman's picture

August 23, 2021 at 03:58 pm

“ Also, we must keep in mind, many WR look good in practice and/or exhibition games, but don’t show it when live bullets start and must prove themselves against #1 Defenses.”

That’s a nagging thought that I have too Murff - as well as a mid-season form slump due to the fatigue of actually competing for the spot.

As others have stated, in a way Jace Sternberger’s suspension has almost been a blessing in disguise for the team.

It at least gives the Packers 2 more weeks to assess the player who’s a WR in a TE body (Funchess) and the guy with “Stick-It” hands (Taylor).

All this said, remember - at the end of this year Adams, Cobb*, Bobby T, MVS and these 3 are all free agents. The packers front office are for sure planning for this………….. if only one of these 3 players could kick a ball more than 21 yards - they’d be a lock already…… :)

Cobb technically on a 2 year deal, but hmmmm!

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Thegravedigger's picture

August 23, 2021 at 06:38 pm

the fact that they would have control over taylor for 2 years after this season makes me think they keep taylor as well. if its strictly 2021 win now, its funchess. but if taylor keeps this shit up, and the 2 more years of control, who knows man. 7 wrs aint happenin tho. maybe with the sternberger man they keep 7, but i doubt it.

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Bure9620's picture

August 23, 2021 at 02:47 pm

Yes Funchess comes to mind immediately. If he continues playing the way he did, he will be signed somewhere. He belongs on a 53. I would hate to see the Packers release him outright. I think they can get a pick/player or atleast something for him if they work that soon.

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Coldworld's picture

August 23, 2021 at 09:37 am

Neither PFF nor, more importantly, the coaches seem to trust Sternberger. PFF is instructive not for the low rating primarily, but for the reasons. Sternberger is a player who disappears in the passing game most of the time and is a liability in the ground game. He’s likely not retained absent injury. That is your spot.

Call Funchess a TE if it makes you feel more comfortable. WRs: Adams, MVS, Lazard, Cobb, Rodgers, Taylor. TE/WR: Funchess. TEs: Tonyan, Lewis. H-Backs: Deguara and Daffney.

Daffney, Taylor, Rodgers/Cobb and Lazard can all play STs well (or return). That’s a viable number. Daffney can also play FB if we want one and may be our best ST player based on last year.

PS is Winfree and Bagelton at WR and TE Kaufusi (as Lewis’ back up and continuing development). EQ is likely done absent a miracle. Taylor and Winfree outplayed him in camp, he’s not a ST player, he’s never been consistent and his contract is up this year and he can’t get in the field.

You don’t trade Funchess in a year when you are all in. He might be our third or even second most potent weapon at WR and will draw opponents’ attention. There has been a lot of rubbish talked about him here, but he’s shown he’s in shape, effective and versatile.

Cobb and Rodgers likely won’t both be active initially. Taylor can provide game day slot cover and may now be able to cover all spots to some extent given his speed and be active on ST and as return cover.

Nijman was our best T on the day, but Braden did help himself considerably and Newman probably proved he can start. I do not get the Patrick hate though. He and Braden were moving people consistently. One of the holding calls was accepted to be bogus. The other was iffy. What matters is more how he played, and even at C he seemed to be more effective than other candidates for G or back up C.

Ento whiffed on 2 tackles but made some key ones later and key plays on ST. Overall, the mix and match D backfield in the first half was a mess of confusion and missed assignments. Hard to judge without knowing who was supposed to be where. Previlon was awful. He’s too small and either needs to add a lot of muscle or he’s too slow. Heflin looks like he has more than just bulk to offer and could be another who forces a tough roster choice.

Taylor got panned for the fumble, but quietly put up a 6.0 ypc average. Given his injury and lack of playing/practice time, the fumble may be a little more understandable, but that kind of production you keep. If Dillon goes down Taylor would be able to maintain our balance. He makes the PS in my view.

One point I’m surprised no one has picked up is how bad Burks was in the Jets game. He missed just about everything. Personally, if I want a player to just charge, I’d keep the younger Martin, who is also good on STs and may yet improve in coverage. Burks was his old self when asked to play ILB. I thought this would be a salient theme given last week’s focus on him.

A few PS candidates who played late and well. Capra (G/C), Avery (DL), McDuffie (ILB) and Uphoff (ST). None of these got many snaps, but all were impressive when they did. All probably need development physically or technically, but all show signs that they’re be good PS candidates for further development. Galeai may be another. Uphoff, McDuffie and Galeai would seem obvious candidates for spot ST call up in the event of injuries too.

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dobber's picture

August 23, 2021 at 11:01 am

Agree with virtually everything you said, CW.

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Bure9620's picture

August 23, 2021 at 02:57 pm

I agree on Funchess, I am higher on him than most, I liked the signing. I see no path for him on the roster though unfortunately. I kind of blame Player/GM for this for insisting on Cobb. Cobb will be on IR or completely banged up and hobbled by mid season.

Funchess is clearly a better more polished player than Malik Taylor. He WILL be on an active roster this year, somewhere.

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Somedumbname's picture

August 23, 2021 at 03:01 pm

Kamal Martin got cut today. So apparently, the Packers like Burks more than Martin. I am not sure I agree with this decision. Maybe Burks was that much more valuable via special teams? I just think Burks play at ILB against Houston was a flash in the pan. I believe he is a real liability at ILB. Hopefully I am wrong and the lightbulb has turned on for Burks.

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dobber's picture

August 23, 2021 at 11:05 am

I don't get the love for Dafney. He played last year, but was not a difference-maker. At best, he's in Deguara's way, or more than likely, cleaning up his scraps...a PS candidate who has had virtually no camp time and no game snaps. We overestimate his demand if we think he's done much to make him someone who will get poached from the PS, and if he does? No big deal.

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Coldworld's picture

August 23, 2021 at 12:55 pm

STs: he was really good there last year, would be the primary reason, in-game cover for Deguara (there is no other blocker type other than Lewis), FB if needed.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

August 23, 2021 at 09:08 pm

Agree!

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RCPackerFan's picture

August 23, 2021 at 07:15 am

I don't really view Taylor as a problem. I view it as whoever is the best man for the job. Winfree had gotten hurt and hasn't been able to play. Funchess got hurt and missed the 2nd game. EQ hasn't played a lot. Taylor has been the 1 guy who has been available every day. He also is a good special teams player. We have 1 game left but if today was the day to decide, I would say Taylor makes it over any of the other 3. But that is why we still have 1 more week.

I still go back, if they plan to keep Sternberger after his 2 game suspension, (which I don't know why they wouldn't keep him for the 2 weeks either way) then they have an extra spot for someone else. Perhaps they would keep 7 WR's? Which right now would likely be Funchess and Taylor. I don't know if they will do that though.

I do wonder if they may try and trade one of the WR's. Funchess would have been a guy I think they could have traded until he got hurt.

Winners:
Newman - I didn't watch closely but what I did see made me believe he could be the starting RG. I saw on PFF he was the highest graded OL on GB 2 weeks in a row.

Hill - Based on draft value, he maybe the Packers best draft pick in the 2021 draft. He has been VERY good! When you watch rookies or young players you can tell when they have "it" just by watching them play. Hill has "it". That 3rd down catch simply showed his awareness on the field. He got to the chains, turned and made sure to get his feet in falling out of bounds. The run he had that got nullified by penalty showed what he can do as a runner. Packers definitely got themselves a steal!

Losers:
Patrick - I didn't get to watch the whole game, and I didn't see every snap of his when i was watching, I just really wonder if he makes the 53. I thought before even if he wasn't the starter he brought value as a backup because he was a previous starter and could add a lot of value as a guy coming off the bench to play any interior spot. The way he has played the first 2 games, I wonder if he even makes the 53. Runyan, Newman, Myers, Braden all could be the interior guys. Van Lanen also. Turner could slide inside if they had Kelly too.

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croatpackfan's picture

August 23, 2021 at 01:05 pm

Patrick is our back up center. That is all you need to know. Until David is back I do not see other option.

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greengold's picture

August 23, 2021 at 07:43 am

Very solid, Ken! I think we’ll see similar dilemmas at OLB with Tipa, Garvin & Scott. With so few WRs under contract for next season, I could see some unorthodox cuts made at other positions to keep this level of talent from being cherry picked off our PS.

Reviewed game a couple of times, and this Packers team is loaded with players. Lamenting the possible loss of your #4 RB or #5 OLB at roster cuts is a problem most teams would take in a heartbeat.

I bet we go with one less RB, one less TE, maybe just 2 QBs to keep an extra WR, an extra OLB, maybe an extra S.

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Johnblood27's picture

August 23, 2021 at 08:56 am

The difference at OLB is that nobody else is - or will be - salivating for our leftovers and we can place on the 53 OR on the PS as we please with very little risk.

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Coldworld's picture

August 23, 2021 at 09:41 am

Garvin did show a little. Rivers is the only one to show before, but the rush was generally MIA.

However, Galeai did flash in coverage, which at his size is intriguing as he is really only a candidate for the old Fackrell role at this point. If he could cover and spot speed rush (his strength) then he might be a wild card. I’d like to see him used heavily in that role next week.

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dobber's picture

August 23, 2021 at 11:09 am

None of these guys--Rivers, Scott, Galeai, or Garvin--has been a world beater. Maybe they play much better if someone like Gary or P. Smith is lining up opposite, and KC is demanding some attention in the middle. Given Z's situation, I think Rivers is the 4th OLB at this point.

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Coldworld's picture

August 23, 2021 at 01:03 pm

Galeai only makes it if he continues to show coverage acumen. He’s too slight otherwise, but he could be valuable as a Fackrell type. We need one! Especially if Z is out. Beyond that it’s still wide open. I favored Rivers going in to the last game, but Garvin seemed to do a little more. A waiver claim is always possible.

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Bure9620's picture

August 23, 2021 at 03:00 pm

Speaking of whom........Fackrell looked like Joey and Nick Bosa's 3rd brother last night.....

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greengold's picture

August 23, 2021 at 01:41 pm

None are world beaters... just players the Packers staff have spent time developing. Of course, we will only see limited snaps, but I do think they show promise. Rivers too.

I also agree w your other take on Z. We'll find out soon enough what is going on there.

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greengold's picture

August 23, 2021 at 09:42 am

True, JB. Good point.

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dobber's picture

August 23, 2021 at 11:08 am

If Z really has a back problem and not a contract problem, the Packers are suddenly very thin at OLB. It might force them to scour the cuts or make a deal in the next week or so for some depth help there.

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nostradanus's picture

August 23, 2021 at 07:20 am

Taylor - will make the initial 53 not only because he has improved as a WR but because of availability and special teams.

Hill - it’s early but, it looks like another great pick by Gutey, this is shaping up to be an “A” draft class! Stokes-Myers-Rodgers-Newman-Jean-Charles-Slayton-Hill: Wow!

Sternberger - man Jace has been in the doghouse for awhile! He obviously has talent, so is it a head or heart problem? Let’s hope he has a “come to Jesus “ moment in the Buffalo game!

Lucas Patrick - I sure hope they can find a way to keep him one more year! Lucas is tough as nails, loves being a Packer and is a positive influence for the younger guys!

Yosh - Dude is a specimen! I’m glad to see him developing and playing well! The Packers like this kid, we may need him some this year!

Ento - His tackling is an adventure but so is Kings tackling. Ento has made plays all camp and is a special teams gunner. I think he makes it!

Dr Jekel and JK Scott - the kid is talented….sometimes and he sure can’t tackle that’s for sure. Me thinks the Packers pick up a veteran at cut down, maybe they stash JK on the PS and try to develop him more.
But me thinks he gone!

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greengold's picture

August 23, 2021 at 07:53 am

Yeah, nostradanus, I can see Scott might be on his way out. Patrick had a very poor showing.

Ento ? The missed tackle on Michael Carter was the first of many we’ll see on Michael Carter throughout the NFL this year. Carter is that good. He could have been an R2 pick. I agree that Kabion Ento has developed enough to stick around.

Slaton is a solid player who should only get better. He seems to like more reps. Both he, Newman and Hill look like steals from the draft. Highway robbery by Gutekunst & his staff.

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nostradanus's picture

August 23, 2021 at 08:21 am

Right on GG
Gutey can spot talent, he’s taken a lot of heat for the Love/Rodgers thing but like he said “it will always be about the Packers first”

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murf7777's picture

August 23, 2021 at 08:14 am

I agree the draft seems like an “A” grade. Not sure about Stokes and Rodgers yet, but with just Myers, Newman, Slayton and Hill it would be a “B” grade. These 4 have shown to have “it” early which is often a good indicator they will be starters early in their careers. I love how the Packers are always trying to make the OL one of the best.

I’m keeping my fingers crossed about Slayton because we need that position to get better so badly. He will need development, but will get some playing time this year. I wouldn’t expect to much from him this year thou.

Stokes, is tough to tell. He has had good and bad plays, of course that is normal for the CB position. So, the question is does he become King or Alexander. More than likely, he will become somewhere in between. He has one thing you can’t teach….speed. Alexander gave him a positive endorsement as well.

Rodgers will take sometime to develop as well and the good thing is he will have the time because of the Cobb signing. I like the kid and expect him to do well over his career, starting in year 2 as I suspect he will get limited playing time this year.

The Pundits, put us at a C-B grade and that is low.

Overall = Wow is right.

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nostradanus's picture

August 23, 2021 at 08:27 am

Yeah Murf
I’ll take somewhere in the middle of King/Alexander, Stokes has the physical tools a great secondary coach and the mental makeup plus a young mentor in Jaire. My bet is he turns out to be a solid pro. At the bottom of the first round I’ll take that all day long.

As for Rodgers, you can see the talent and of course his mental makeup and having Cobb as a mentor will be a great thing. My bet is he blossoms year two but will contribute this year fo sho.

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murf7777's picture

August 23, 2021 at 08:36 am

ND, the nice thing is if Cobb gets injured, and we know that’s probable for some games, we have Rodgers to step in. It’s been awhile we have had a true slot WR and now we have two.

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dobber's picture

August 23, 2021 at 11:13 am

I think Ento is CB6 (Alexander, King, Stokes, Sullivan, Jean-Charles). Where he falls on the depth chart, his value is mostly in ST. Maybe he develops enough to be helpful in the DB rotation in 22. Maybe they decide to see what they have in Yiadom, but if they did, he likely fills a similar role.

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egbertsouse's picture

August 23, 2021 at 07:22 am

Just get rid of Cobb. Big problem solved.

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PackerAaron's picture

August 23, 2021 at 07:39 am

Lol and bigger problem created when Rodgers refuses to play Week 1.

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D.D.Driver's picture

August 23, 2021 at 12:07 pm

LOL. Totally. But I NEVER ever want to hear how Rodgers didn't have "enough weapons" around him ever--E.V.E.R.--again if the Packers are locking up rosters spots for Rodgers' buddies instead keeping the best player on the roster.

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murf7777's picture

August 23, 2021 at 07:55 am

Ive been on Cobb bandwagon, if he stays healthy, I’ll predict he will have 50-550-6. Arod can trust him to be where he is suppose to be. He knows how to get open in Zone D, which most teams use frequently. He will mentor AmRod, which I suspect will be important for his growth in the league. For those who say he lost a step, I say prove it. Too many state that once someone reaches 30 years old they lost a step. The reality, is everyone ages differently and yes some do lose a step due to various reasons, injury or age being the top ones.

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dobber's picture

August 23, 2021 at 11:16 am

I think we'll see Cobb play more than AmRod early, but my guess is that AmRod will be getting more of those snaps by the end of the season.

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Johnblood27's picture

August 23, 2021 at 08:53 am

Give Aaron the list and tell him to "pick 6".

Problem-S solved!

Let the Assistant GM do his J-O-B!

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

August 23, 2021 at 09:22 pm

LOL

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ImaPayne's picture

August 23, 2021 at 08:16 am

Hey saw three of our old friends last night. Fackrel made a couple of decent plays, obvioiusly well rested for not doing that when he was with us.

Bulaga they said has a nasty hip injury from the previous week and they didn't know when he would return or even make the team. Wow sounds familiar.

Clinton Dix, no change. The analyst pointed out "the flag cant be on dix he was nowhere near the receiver". Thought I would pee my pants on that one

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Johnblood27's picture

August 23, 2021 at 08:54 am

Dix - the king of business decisions...

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blacke00's picture

August 23, 2021 at 08:23 am

The Pack is going to need to "stash" some of these WRs on the PS, if they plan on keeping Cobb and Funchess. Both have a significant injury history. I like what Funchess did in the first game but surprise surprise he's injured again. I would try and trade him, cut EQ another injury and watch Cobb very carefully and limit his snaps and NO ST play!

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Coldworld's picture

August 23, 2021 at 09:48 am

Until his broken collar bone, Funchess was remarkably healthy. I’m fine using Cobb on STs if he’s our best current option. It may well be him or Rodgers active, especially if Taylor is on the roster and playing STs. There is really no logic to activating both Rodgers and Cobb on a regular basis, they are too similar.

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dobber's picture

August 23, 2021 at 11:20 am

The Packers have held the 4 WR (Adams, MVS, Lazard, Cobb) that are presumably at the top of their depth chart out of their first two preseason games. If Cobb is WR4 on that list and you strip the name away from the spot, I have no problem with WR4 playing ST/returning punts.

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Lphill's picture

August 23, 2021 at 08:41 am

JK Scott is God awful!

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Johnblood27's picture

August 23, 2021 at 08:54 am

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ImaPayne's picture

August 23, 2021 at 08:56 am

pack need to lse 8 people by tomorrow. Sternbummer needs to be one of them, Ah Dum, williams for starters. St Brown could go to. He could join his brother who didnt look so good the other night in deeetroit.

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croatpackfan's picture

August 23, 2021 at 01:16 pm

5, not 8

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Since'61's picture

August 23, 2021 at 09:15 am

I didn't see the game against the Jets but it sounds like Malik Taylor has made a strong case to make the final 53 at least up to this point. While he may be playing against questionable, quality opponents he is catching the ball in critical situations regardless of who is throwing to him. That plus the fact that he can play STs make him a good candidate for the Packers keeping him with the team. I think that ESB is gone at this point.

To me this means the Packers should try to trade Funchess although I don't think he will bring much being out of football for 2 seasons plus his injury history.

I don't think I would sacrifice OL depth to keep 7 WRs. OL should be the priority especially since we don't know yet when Bak will return and we're still not sure who the starting Guards will be. I would prefer to remain as flexible as possible with the OL and keep Rodgers protected. Plus if we expect to run more and pass less OL depth is critical as the season grinds on.

Hopefully we can remain injury free for one more week. Go Pack Go! Thanks, Since '61

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MarkinMadison's picture

August 23, 2021 at 09:17 am

Packers WR signed for 2022: Cobb, Amari Rodgers. And Cobb is a cap casualty waiting to happen. If they let Cobb push guys like Taylor out of the room this year, they will really feel the pain next year.

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Coldworld's picture

August 23, 2021 at 09:53 am

I agree, though Rodgers does not look ready at this point to me, either on O or returns. He’s not playing close to his metrics or tape.

Had we not signed Cobb, I might be predicting Taylor would be our slot on day one! I think he would perform well too based on the development that we have seen this camp.

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greengold's picture

August 23, 2021 at 10:06 am

Mark, I agree, and that has me thinking they keep a higher number of WRs than normal. Those spaces are quite valuable, which means other positions may suffer. That one is going to be a tough balancing act.

Personally, I'm for keeping the players who are always available to play and show promise, over those who have shown promise, but have long injury histories. The more I look at it, the more it seems injured players are almost always injured... as odd as that sounds. There always seems to be another ailment that keeps them out of important play, important games.

I prefer those players who always show up ready to play.

With such difficult choices to make, I could see a couple of players being "stashed" on IR for possible return at a later date. Wouldn't be a bad decision, given we have a 17 game schedule this year.

Teams are permitted to have unlimited players return from the IR this season after missing a mandatory 3 games. Only players on the 53 man roster Sept. 1 are eligible. Those who make the 53 are the only ones they can protect with IR, making this a bit tricky.

I believe Gutekunst will use this extensively. His biggest problem will be protecting those who he feels might be scooped off the initial PS listings. That does factor into their ability to stash players, but I think they will be able to navigate that with some success.

We should figure Gutekunst will likely add a DL from other team's roster cuts. Should be fun to see how he pulls this off, if he can.

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Coldworld's picture

August 23, 2021 at 10:57 am

To get a player on in season IR you have to waive another player and hope they get through waivers. It can make sense if you have an under the radar back end prospect who no one rates or knows (Lazard was waived for a day after his first camp), but I’m not sure who we would be putting at risk on this roster, especially if Bakh is activated (as he likely would go on IR). Other than Funchess, the likely candidates might well pass waivers anyway.

I no longer think we will add a DL to the roster. I think Slaton and Heflin will make the roster and Avery, who looks to have potential, and maybe Previlon to the PS if they think he has further potential to add sufficient strength and mass to unlock his potential. If not we may pick up a PS candidate.

Honestly, I can’t see JK Scott being replaced because he is Crosby’s holder. I don’t think we will mess with that lightly unless there is a standout punter (whom we can afford) and a good back up holder. I could see a PS signing to work with Crosby for a while.

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cheesehead1's picture

August 23, 2021 at 09:52 am

I believe EQ will be gone. Funchess is a big, experienced target so I’m hoping we keep him. I also hope Gute brings in some competition for JK Scott. Too many shanks and inconsistency for an NFL punter. For as much as I dislike the Seahawks (and I live in the NW) they have a great punter in Dickson.

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packer132's picture

August 23, 2021 at 09:54 pm

EQ is halfway out the door and Funchess is right behind him if he doesnt get healthy in 2 days.He needs to play well against Buffalo or Taylor wil take his spot. Pack will keep 5 or 6 WR's but not 7. Funchess and WInfree wiil go to the practice squad again or get traded.Next week 27 players will get the pink slips and threre are some good players that will sign somewhere. Green Bay could pick up a punter or DL afrer cuts.Packers wanted the Seattle punter but picked too late.

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marpag1's picture

August 23, 2021 at 09:59 am

When Funchess played so much in the first game, it seemed an awful lot like they were showcasing him for a trade. Especially since Funchess has never played special teams, it makes him even harder to keep.

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Coldworld's picture

August 23, 2021 at 11:05 am

Or it looked like they were testing him and getting him reps after a lay off. Trading Funchess, whom LaFleur seems to love, is not compatible with being all in. He’s probably our second most all round capable receiver and possibly catching TE. If we are in it to win, Funchess is here. With Sternberger out for 2 games even more so.

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dobber's picture

August 23, 2021 at 11:28 am

I expect Funchess will find a way to play against Buffalo this week.

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Coldworld's picture

August 23, 2021 at 01:08 pm

With a soft tissue injury I wouldn’t play him. They know who he was and they've seen that he is looking good. At this point, they should know if they want him.

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croatpackfan's picture

August 23, 2021 at 01:28 pm

When Oren Burks showed excellent game you said it is fluke, you do not trust him. It is only one game! Now you are saying Fuenchess showed nice play in one game and he is in for sure. He might be in, but how you believe Fuenches and do not believe Burks.

It is also important to notice that many players in diferent sports after long pause playing excellent 1 or 2 games, after that they just stop playing well.

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splitpea1's picture

August 23, 2021 at 02:33 pm

You really take the prize for being uninformed with a big mouth to boot. It's pretty obvious that you don't have a clue about what you're talking about most of the time.

Funchess has a track record of being successful with another team, while Burks has been oft-injured, not effective at his designated position, and primarily been used as a special teams player. Does that little summary help you understand the nature of the comment you were so eager to criticize?

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PatrickGB's picture

August 23, 2021 at 10:08 am

I believe that JK will develop into a very good punter. But that may take a few years. The potential is there if he gets his head on right. But can the team wait that long? Are they willing to risk a few shanks because he can boom it too? And is it him or is it coaching?

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Coldworld's picture

August 23, 2021 at 11:02 am

Is he mature enough to self-improve? Sometimes I get the impression that he’s just coasting and not working to improve his game.

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ImaPayne's picture

August 23, 2021 at 12:26 pm

Oh please. Zimmer drafted a kicker last year who missed three field goals in the pre season. Zimmer cut him after the game.
When the press ask him why he didnt keep the guy and develop him he replied " I'm in the win now mode, not the draft and develop mode" .
They had a new kicker the next day as Spielman always has a talent list and knows where to get players asap

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splitpea1's picture

August 23, 2021 at 01:56 pm

He's already had a few years! He's a PUNTER, not a quarterback!

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greengold's picture

August 23, 2021 at 10:15 am

Good point marpag1. Conversely, I'm wondering if there are players they aren't showcasing on purpose, to limit the tape that's out on them, and hopefully slide them through onto our PS, until IR designations have passed, to bring them back onto the roster after Sept 1st???

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packer132's picture

August 23, 2021 at 10:08 pm

no,this rarely happens. A case coud be Benkert on Saturday to let him sit so other teams don't see his tape. Love could play 3 quarters and Dolegala the 4th quarter. Coaches do hold back some plays in preseason so teams will not see their new schemes.You can place players on the practice squad but teams can pulfory your guy and you get nothing for him.{Packers got Lazard that way from the practice squad in 2018 from Jacksonville.

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Matt Gonzales's picture

August 23, 2021 at 11:28 am

I think it all comes down to whether the Packers feel like they need him for ST. If they do, they will find a way to keep him, at the expense of another receiver or DB. Whether or not Funchess returns to practice this week will likely determine what happens, but my gut is telling me Taylor won the #6 spot and the Packers clear a bit of cap room by cutting Funchess.

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ImaPayne's picture

August 23, 2021 at 12:23 pm

Jesus is it that hard to not just replace either Funchess or St Brown with this guy. The team could cut both and we would still have a very nice all round receiving core. Sternbummer can be thrown in to the cuts too, his days are done. A five yard td pass shouldnt save his life unless Rodgers is pushing to keep him as his pet

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Packers0808's picture

August 23, 2021 at 01:00 pm

Cut Sternberger and keep Taylor and Funchess. 3 tight ends would be plenty!

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Coldworld's picture

August 23, 2021 at 01:14 pm

Don’t need to cut Sternberger now really. He automatically heads to the reserve/suspended list after preseason and thus is not on the roster. He does still count for the 80 total though, so I suppose there could be a reason to cut in the next 24 hours, though I doubt that is likely.

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Pistolero's picture

August 23, 2021 at 01:16 pm

Except Tonyan, Big Dog, Degaura and Dafny makes four.

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Packers0808's picture

August 23, 2021 at 06:30 pm

Suppose depends where they classify Degaura

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Pistolero's picture

August 23, 2021 at 01:16 pm

Except Tonyan, Big Dog, Degaura and Dafny makes four.

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Irish_Cheesehead's picture

August 23, 2021 at 02:15 pm

I like Taylor, but Funchess has way more upside. Taylor is clearly a #6, while Funchess has the skills to be a starter. Time will tell.

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LambeauPlain's picture

August 23, 2021 at 05:13 pm

After 2 years of playing in only one NFL game, I am not sold on Funchess yet after one Preseason game playing against back ups and backups of back ups. He did run decent routes but he is slow for a WR (4.7 + 40). Maybe move him to his college position at TE to replace Sternberger.

I also think there is a better chance the Packers keep 5 vs 7 WR receivers. But could see 6 if they decide to keep Sternberger after his 2 game suspension and make a tough decision at WR...and maybe then move Taylor to the PS as NFL rosters will be set. Will need him more next year with all the WR FAs coming.

Also Nijman has quietly put together a good preseason. Other than the one sack he gave up that got Love a shoulder bruise, PFF has graded him high both games.

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flackcatcher's picture

August 23, 2021 at 06:20 pm

I agree, but Nijman's pad level STILL to high...

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CoachDino's picture

August 24, 2021 at 05:07 pm

One way of looking at the decision. Funchess is the better rec, check. But how much is that going to be used? Is he taking snaps away from DA/MVS,Cobb,AL most likely not, even with injury. The packers don't rely solely on their WR, they are run heavy (to a point) and utilize the rb, TEs and HB/TE as well in the pass game.

How about keeping him for next year when MVS,AL and DA could all be gone. Even 1 of them. Sure, Funchess would be a solid replacement for AL but he's not for MVS or DA. The Packers will need to go out in FA and get someone if they lose DA or draft someone if they lose MVS or AL. or a combination of those actions. There will be someone as good or better than funchess.

Malik is a good WR, he can be counted on, but yes he's not "as" good as Funchess. But then there's the biggest value of Malik over Funchess staring us in the face ST. Malik will play 10-15 snaps give or take on STs. maybe none on O. Funchess will play Zero on ST and maybe none on O.

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