Right Tackle will need to be addressed in the next draft (for the long term solution) if Jason Spriggs doesn't make the jump - but yes, on paper it's got both an upgrade and legitimate positional competition

All these people panicking thursday night about reaching must have forgot about trading up last year for some no name cornerback with little production his final year. Turned out pretty well so far. Mocks are a waste of time, but slapping grades on drafts before anybody sees the field is the biggest waste of time.

That's an excellent point and what a GREAT position for Gary to come into. The Packers really improved themselves defensively since the end of last year with 3 veterans starters to go along with Daniels, Clark, and Lowry.

I'll admit I was a little disappointed and a tad emotional when the Packers drafted Gary (I'm a fan) but I actually have mellowed some on the pick. What I keep coming back to on Gary is the WAY Pettine could and probably will use him. I mean holly crap Pettine got 10.5 sacks from Frackrell last season, can you imagine just for a minute what he can do with the additions in FA AND Gary to go with what they already had...NASTY!

For what it's worth Charlie Casserly ..(An ACTUALLY SB team building GM said the Packers won the draft).. Obviously we won't know who won for a few years yet, but this defense doesn't have a glaring weakness now. I know many point to ILB but Jesus Christ give Burks a chance and TRUST in Pettine.

I've seen clips of Gary hustling downfield to tackle RBs and WRs. I did not watch every snap of his college career and even if I did, I would not be qualified to evaluate his effort. But I have more concerns about his lack of variety of pass rush moves than I do about his effort level.

So having Turner, Jenkins, Spriggs, and McCray as backups isn’t enough??

2018 RAS Scores:

Equanimeous St. Brown 9.84
Marquez Scantling 9.25
J’Mon Moore 8.43

If only we had athletic WRs for Rodgers to throw to...

What on earth makes you think drafting a rookie is going to help that much... no matter what round a WR is drafted in, he's still going to take 2 or 3 years to build Chemistry with AR... Do you think that if Adams went down that AR is suddenly going to start throwing to a 2nd RD pick, just because he's a 2nd round pick?

Adams took 3 years to develop... remember his big case of the drops in year 2? Everyone was screaming to cut him... now look.

ESB, MVS, will be fine.

One thing the Packers have are a ton of young receivers. Drafting a receiver early would just add more young ones to the group. Why would a drafted one be instantly ahead of the others? I could see signing a vet slot receiver as insurance, but a rookie is just adding a number 6 receiver to the mix.

I'm with you, JohnnyLogan. I would have preferred more bodies on offense than they got. Last October, I jumped on the bandwagon that years of defense-heavy drafting had taken their toll on the offense. I saw nothing that made we want to jump off that bandwagon since then.

As it stands, we're counting on MM being the root cause of most of the problems that showed in 2018. Maybe that's true, maybe it's not, maybe it is partially true. I would have preferred the bets were hedged a bit more. A 2nd TE, 2nd OL and another WR would have made me feel a lot better about the offense heading into 2019.

I will say that I was a fan of Allan Lazard in the 2018 draft process. I think that late season pickup might bear some fruit. And maybe Cole Madison qualifies as that 2nd OL, although I am not as excited about his return to football as some others seem to be.

Well, given that he spent 4 premium draft picks finishing his rebuild of the defense including picks 1A and 1B and 4A and 4B, here's what he accomplished on offense:

1 - Solidified interior OL, including a G who could easily start at C;
2 - A pass catching weapon at TE; and,
3 - #3 RB with considerable upside.

Not bad for one draft. Yes, I realize there is no stud OT or WR1 in that group but you can't fix everything at once. There's always next year.

Gutey said he knows for a fact that savage wouldn’t be there at 30. The interesting part was when a Greenbay took Savage at 21, Baltimore traded the 22 pick right away so that tells me he had intel that Savage was a Ravens pick at 22. So if Savage is the guy...you get him no matter what. I like the pick...he reminds me of a young Earl Thomas....same height, weight, speed and hits like a Mack truck. Ted Thompson hung his hat on the Rodgers pick when we still had Favre playing at a high level. Gutey will make his own legacy here. He is a smart GM.

What makes you think Gutenkunst listens to what “everyone” says? What makes you think any GM listens to what, I’m assuming you mean draftniks, say?

Who was he supposed to move on? Fant or Dillard? Gary was rated btw #6 and #11 on most boards. Thought he would go to the Giants or Buffalo. and had Farrell pegged to the Pack. Gruden surprised the predicted order and got the guy who showed for the past three years. Burns is too light, without power up top and would take two to three years to come into his own controlling the edge. He's a DPR type of guy.

Savage may be one of those rare safeties that is excellent at coverage and tackling.
How many of those were in this draft, or can be found in the NFL? (I don't know the answer, but am glad we potentially have one of them.)

Gute obviously doesn't which is good. If he succeeds, then he gets ALL the credit, ho however if he failed, well, he better go ask TT.

Watching Big Ten games he stood out, just as Thomas did with the crew he played with for Mack Brown. The other Maryland DBs will be showing up in future drafts. The maryland vs Ohio State game was a classic. I had Thornhill a the safe bet @ #30 but after watching more tape you could see Savage's movement from the hash was better and his 4.35 speed translated to faster plays on the ball. If Amos was just a FS then Abram would be a guy that dominates the short areas, sideline to sideline. The Pack has that type of player in Josh Jones if he can figure it out.

You don’t draft a QB high to back up Rodgers as a “just in case” they will bring in at-least 2 undrafted players and try them out. Boyle is still developing decently and Kiser I think is better then we think. He wasn’t given a shot really...but he has another year under his belt learning from the best. I love this draft...it doesn’t make me nervous at all...in fact this is one of the best drafts we have had imo. It’s even better than last year and I thought last year was real good.

Maybe keep either Kizer or Boyle, and trade the other for a veteran backup QB who really could fill in right away for Rodgers at a respectable level, at least for a couple of games.
By the way, Kizer was a first-rounder just two drafts ago, and Boyle was a trendy late-rounder in the last draft. It seems at least one may be a future starter in the NFL, or at least a trusty backup.

They have Wilkerson and Campbell nursing injuries and they may come into play as the season starts up. Just moving the dead weight out at the trade deadline helped the attitude on the defense. Getting the three and outs will help this team win.

I agree. Now, in what year are we going to pick up some offense in the 1st round?

Burks isn’t a bust at all. He is still developing. When Bush was taken by Pittsburg the draft changed. There wasn’t a ILB worth a crap after Bush and White. Gutey didn't fail...the draft didn’t fall that way. This was a good draft overall.

The rated guys were off the board by #10. What did you want him to do trade up in the first for an ILB?

Josh Jones is hanging by a thread and so is Montravious Adams.

That just it. Turner is your basic journeyman OL guy. It raised a lot of eyebrows when packers gave him so much money. The amount paid doesn't mean he plays at that level. Packers just have faith that he can do it based on tape.

Going all in on QW is an interesting thought, but there are risks to every strategy. I agree he's a guaranteed star, but shit happens--for instance, an injury to QW would leave the cupboard bare, as opposed to the situation we have now. I personally see Savage as a can't miss star, and Gary as an interesting roll of the dice. Not saying you're wrong, but it's definitely a close call. Of all the trade-up scenarios we passed on, yours is maybe the only one that is tempting to me...

I think what you are overlooking is that there is a very high chance that Bulaga will not make it through the season healthy. That means Taylor may very well have to kick outside at some point. So the depth chart in week 1 is going to be just as important as the starting lineup in week 1. Check to see that Taylor "wins" the RG position, and then check to see who is his backup, because that player will be starting at some point in the season, probably by week 9.

they just did trade up for a top talent. SAVAGE! and only had to give up 2 fours in the process!

You can’t gift anyone a job. Can’t have better players riding the pine.

Gary will be a stud and he will start for us very soon. I watched him in Michigan and he was a beast! Bush and Winovich got drafted high because Gary commanded a ton of attention each game.

Doug,

You are the best prognosticator I have ever seen. The smartest sailor in the fleet. And that smart sailor scrapes barnacles off before they become a problem. Right Doug?

What reports Doug? Any from the Pack? Anything more than guesses and hearsay Doug?

So you were wrong about Hockensen. You don't have to cry.

There are so many factual and logical flaws with the stuff you say. First round picks have a fifth-year option and have for several years now. You leap from "he has to turn out fast" to he is "3 years wasted." Put down the bottle, get out of the unhappy booze haze, and post when you are sober.

I would love for the Packers to still sign FS Tre Boston as a rotational player. He was good and I’m shocked he is still available. He can spell Amos and Savage to give them a breather. He is young and would come cheap. Overall I’m excited for training camp and the pre-season. Gutey built this team to win and win now.

I strongly disagree that the mock drafts were a waste of time.

For the first couple months of the draft season, practically every mock draft I saw was giving us Gary at 12. When the board broke the way it did, it became inevitable for Gary to land in GB short of GB hating on the guy and trading down.

As to Savage, he had the most momentum of any player in the top 40 picks in the last month. And most of us knew the Pack would take a S with pick 30 or 44. Combining the two, Savage going to GB was quite logical.

As to Jenkins, again, we all knew we needed another interior lineman. And this guy is a top C to boot in case Linsley were to go down. What I didn't know was he was coached by a Packer coach last year. Lastly, Gutey having just brought in his buddy from the Ravens to be his right hand man, and his specialty is OL. So quite a bit of logic there.

And perhaps the easiest pick of all was Sternberger in the 3rd. With the top 3 TEs off the board, Gutey went for the best pass catcher left and it matched our need.

So I think the mock drafts, combined with some logic, all pointed to the draft we had, especially if you knew who would be gone before 12.

Oh, he will start day one and he will be a top candidate for rookie of the year even being on the pathetic Lions. Still high on the HOCK!!

I wouldn't write King off. He needed bulk and if the rehab went well, he should be stronger and more durable. He shuts down the big receivers.

I wouldn't write King off. He needed bulk and if the rehab went well, he should be stronger and more durable. He shuts down the big receivers.

Next year's Packer draft will be offense oriented at the top as we get our OT of teh future as well as our next WR1.

From the little tape I've looked at I think it's fair to say that Gary got hit up with double teams at a relatively high rate. (Being in the front seven with both Bush and Gary made me really leery of Winovich.) The thing about Gary that worries me is the Wonderlic. He scored a 9. Tends to make me think that Michigan knew what it was doing when they put Gary in a position to eat double teams instead of setting him up more often to be the guy on a play. Is this a guy who you can put on the edge and have him make the right choices, especially if he might be forced to drop into coverage?

Doubt it..but we shall see.

Just watch.

Aaron Rodgers is the QB. LaFleur has never had a QB of Rodger's QB as am OC. He had an injured Mariota and the weakest WR core in the NFL last year. The Packers will run more but that's setting the bar LOW. They hardly ran it last year. More balance doesn't transform the Packers into a power running team. Just run enough to make play action convincing.

Le Fleur already said they would pass more than run. He will, however, run the ball more than 15 times per game.

Le Fleur already said they would pass more than run. He will, however, run the ball more than 15 times per game.

"Shocked" is a bit dramatic. They already have Aaron Jones and Jamaal Williams. They added a nice piece in Dexter Williams.

Just how many RBs do you imagine they need?

Ratings are all that matter to the networks. Footage gets higher ratings than someone taking responsibility. Thanks, Since ‘61

It's a Packer blogging the dead season what dis you expect? As for "fair weather fans". We're still Packer fans after 2 losing seasons in a row. Weather isn't exactly fair but we continue to be fans and hope for the best even if we discuss what could be the worst. There's nothing wrong with being disappointed. Just because someone is more knowledgeable doesn't make there right. LOTS of draft picks bust.

I feel the same way about Geronimo Allison. I think if his name was John Allison most fans would say what the hell is he doing as our number 2 receiver.

I am not saying I disagree that they are thin there. I just don't think a rookie is what helps. The rookie given how Rodgers deals with rookies is most likely to be the number 6 receiver and not the guy thats going to move into Adams slot if he goes down.

WR was and is the least need on the team. Its all about how AR uses his many weapons. Does not make any difference if he has one more, if he is off again. other then that, there is only one ball to go around and just 2-4 WR positions.
so draft another WR makes zero sense to me. we have more than enough good to great ones

If Adams goes down there are free agents that can help like Crabtree and Jordy Nelson who would come out of retirement to help I’m sure. If Adams doesn’t go down then you are getting our young receivers experience which is what they need.

I get more thumbs down than all of you put together. Resilient.

The way I see it, either...
1. LaF likes what he has at WR and they think they can make it work.
2. They never had a WR near the top of their board when a pick came up.
3. Management said that they buried the position last year and that they needed the draft capital elsewhere.
4. Could be all of the above.

Johnny Logan, thumbs still down. If Adams goes down and we did draft a WR high, who would our #1 WR be? Geronimo Allison. We need Aaron Rodgers to practice and work with our talented group of WR's. Come cut down day, there will be plenty of fans gripping about cutting these very good WR's.

There was such a wide disparity of opinions this year about who and what positions the Packers should draft that I think we are all living with some disappointment. There is no way Gute could have pleased everyone or perhaps even anyone on this site given the diversity of opinions.

While I was disappointed with the Gary selection, I also know that I am an amateur and Gute is the professional. I will happily wait to be proven wrong by the Packer organization. Go Pack Go!