Meet Your Green Bay Packers 2019 Draft Picks

The 2019 NFL draft is now behind us and it did not disappoint.  Another drama-filled first round, starting with the Arizona Cardinals selecting quarterback Kyler Murray.  From there, the madness ensued.

Packers fans watched familiar name after familiar name drop off the board as the 12th pick neared.  Many surprises along the way.  The Packers would stand pat and add a surprise of their own.

Kudos to the team at CheeseheadTV for another year of phenomenal draft coverage!  

Let's take a look at the Green Bay Packers 2019 draft class.

Round 1

12th overall - Rashan Gary, LB, Michigan

This pick caught many of us off guard but it was exactly what the Packers wanted. General manager Brian Gutekunst said they've had Gary hot on their radar since right after the 2018 season.  Gary, no doubt, has some very impressive athletic ability.  A 4.58 40-yard dash and 26 bench reps at the Combine, to name a few.  But those flashy numbers also came with questions about Gary's heart and desire to play football.  He put those to rest when speaking to the local Wisconsin media after being selected, saying he loves the game and that he's healthy and ready to go in 2019. 

Gary showed some really good explosion at Michigan.  Some question his consistency and productivity while others point to the double teams Gary often faced.  He has the potential to develop into a really solid player who offers something we're learning is paramount to Gutekunst: versatility.  He'll give the Packers the ability to use him up front or on the outside.  It's now defensive coordinator Mike Pettine's job to maximize all that Gary can offer them right away.  You can read more about Gary here.

Round 1

21st overall - Darnell Savage, S, Maryland

The Packers moved up from the 30th overall to grab Savage, the first defensive back taken in this draft.  Savage is a day one starter with the range the Packers have sorely lacked on the back end of their defense.  Savage has a high IQ and can hit as well as he covers.  He's a bit raw but, yep, you guessed it: versatile.  He can be your cover-2 guy or line up in the slot.  He instantly upgrades the safety position for the Packers and should be lining up along side Adrian Amos when this season starts.  You can read more about Savage here.

Round 2

44th overall - Elgton Jenkins, C, Mississippi State

More versatility, please.  Jenkins can fill in at center as well as guard.  The Packers now have a stable of guys to compete for the guard spots when you add in free agent acquisition Billy Turner and Cole Madison.  It's a far cry from asking Jahri Evans to fill in at guard for a season.  Packers quarterbacks coach Luke Getsy was very familiar with Jenkins in his time as offensive coordinator at Mississippi State and was reportedly pumped that the Packers grabbed one of the top five centers in this year's draft.  Jenkins isn't a flashy pick but he was extremely solid and graded well against some top competition in the SEC. You can read more about Jenkins here.

Round 3

75th overall - Jace Sternberger, TE, Texas A&M

Sternberger was mocked to the Packers many-a-time and Green Bay passed on both Noah Fant and Irv Smith, Jr. to address this area of emerging need.  The Packers take a break from the versatile player here, as Sternberger is mostly a pure pass catcher.  He won't be asked to play in line and block much, as his greatest contribution comes in his ability to get vertical and draw the defense away from outside threats.  Sternberger will need some polishing, but he's already a fluid route runner and has good hands.  An instant upgrade to the tight end room for the Packers.  You can read more about Sternberger here.

Round 5

150th overall - Kingsley Keke, DL, Texas A&M

A second-straight Aggie, Keke would add some depth to the defensive line.  He needs to round out his frame and doesn't possess great speed.  He dropped some weight to make himself more versatile to NFL defenses, which are moving further away from traditional 4-3 and 3-4 fronts.  He's definitely a project, as is to be expected at this point in any draft.  You can read more about Keke here.

Round 6

185th overall - Ka'dar Hollman, CB, Toledo

A big-time flyer pick by the Packers.  Hollman had to fight his way on at Toledo but eventually became a starter.  He has excellent speed (4.4 40-yard dash).  Hollman didn't have many interceptions (2) but he did have 18 pass break ups last season.  Hollman offers the Packers possible depth at corner as well as on special teams.  He excels in press coverage, using his speed to his advantage.  You can read more on Hollman here.

194th overall - Dexter Williams, RB, Notre Dame

Williams isn't a flashy runner and he's had some issues off the field as well.  But behind a solid offensive line and in a system that uses the run often, Williams can flourish if called into action.  He'll sit behind Aaron Jones and Jamaal Williams.  Jones was the 182nd overall pick in 2017 and while there's no comparison between the two, Dexter Williams will be given plenty of opportunities to secure a role as teh Packers' third back.  You can read more on Williams here.

Round 7

226th overall - Ty Summers, LB, TCU

Summers tests well, putting up superior measurables for a linebacker but they don't tend to translate much to the field.  The Packers are hoping to mold the young player and get something out of him.  Blake Martinez and Oren Burks man the middle of the defense currently and are expected to handle most of those duties this season.  Right now, Summers seems like an ideal candidate for the team's practice squad where he can try and develop without the pressure to play above his ability right away.  You can read more on Summers here.

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Jason is a freelance writer on staff since 2012 and also co-hosts Cheesehead TV Live, Pulse of the Pack and Pack A Day podcasts.  You can follow him on Twitter here

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Qoojo's picture

April 27, 2019 at 07:17 pm

My favorite pick is Jenkins. Sounds like he played well against elite competition and is versatile. Hopefully, with Turner, the OL depth issues are solved.

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Minniman's picture

April 28, 2019 at 04:58 am

Right Tackle will need to be addressed in the next draft (for the long term solution) if Jason Spriggs doesn't make the jump - but yes, on paper it's got both an upgrade and legitimate positional competition

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jeepingmakooi's picture

April 28, 2019 at 07:21 am

All things considered.. I think either Madison or Turner are the right tackle of the future

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rdent's picture

April 28, 2019 at 10:26 am

This year will be the last chance for Spriggs. Gute will not hang on to another Ted Thompson bust.

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jeepingmakooi's picture

April 28, 2019 at 12:33 pm

I'm not even sure spriggs makes the team this year

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EddieLeeIvory's picture

April 27, 2019 at 07:17 pm

All the grades are in.

Every team gets a "C" for now. All average.
Only time will tell.

What I do know is all the mock drafts were essentially a waste of time & I never saw any of these guys mocked to us, except maybe a max of one, in anyone's full mocks. That was hundreds of mocks.

I love Savage.
I like Gary's ability but would never have had that be my plan for 12.
I like Dexter Williams.

Again, time will tell.

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kevgk's picture

April 27, 2019 at 09:03 pm

All these people panicking thursday night about reaching must have forgot about trading up last year for some no name cornerback with little production his final year. Turned out pretty well so far. Mocks are a waste of time, but slapping grades on drafts before anybody sees the field is the biggest waste of time.

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IceBowl's picture

April 27, 2019 at 09:43 pm

kevgk,

I agree. Mocks and grades are a waste of time.

I have read on this site at least 100 times, you don't know the scope/quality of a draft for 3 years.

And still people react and over react to draft grades posted by the same "draft experts" that got the draft wrong.

Waste of time people. For sure.

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canadapacker's picture

April 27, 2019 at 10:21 pm

Totally agree with rankings of drafts - do it after the season and you might have an idea if your draft guys are still around and if you are lucky your first and second rounders made a first year contribution and didnt get hurt or suspended. But most often you have to look 2 or 3 years down the road to really assess what you did. But I digress - I never thought that a receiver was a real need because a. we have a lot of guys from last years draft and with vets like Adams Allison Davis Graham Brown Tonyan Kumerov Scantling Moore Kendricks(?) and b. We always seem to get a nondrafted guy to show up and since we drafted a potential great Tight End we are good there IMO. If we dont need to score 40 points to win every game these guys are good as long as somebody can get them the ball and that the play calling is better

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Adorabelle's picture

April 28, 2019 at 12:03 am

Does someone go back 4 years later and grade the graders and tell you who graded well and who was full of crud? Cause anyone can slap a grade on if there's no accountability for it.

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zeroluv's picture

April 28, 2019 at 08:02 am

I do but I’m a nobody so it doesn’t matter lol

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canadapacker's picture

April 28, 2019 at 10:23 am

Yes would really like them to grade Mel the genius Kiper

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porupack's picture

April 28, 2019 at 01:38 pm

Oh, Gute Grief;
I'm going to waste about 2 minutes and give Gute a D.
His strategy was weak. spending 2 fourth rounders didn't get much value in Rnd 1. It would have landed much more value to land another 2nd rounder, or third rounder. Could have had one more solid player in the above article of introductions, like Metcalf, or winovich, or 2nd round CB.

I now have lowered expectations on Gute from here on out. Won't defend him as I have done to this point.

He got 75% of the potential out of this draft. Gute Grief, he blew a great opportunity.

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

April 28, 2019 at 02:30 pm

You have no clue what grade this draft should get. Suppose Savage turns out to be the best safety in GB in some time? Suppose he's the best of this draft class? Suppose Metcalf and/or Winowich underwhelm in the NFL. All those things could happen. There is absolutely no way to know if this draft is a success for 3 years.

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sonomaca's picture

April 27, 2019 at 07:27 pm

Gary will have a bunch of vets all up in his grill. No slacking in GB, my friend.

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NickPerry's picture

April 28, 2019 at 04:34 am

That's an excellent point and what a GREAT position for Gary to come into. The Packers really improved themselves defensively since the end of last year with 3 veterans starters to go along with Daniels, Clark, and Lowry.

I'll admit I was a little disappointed and a tad emotional when the Packers drafted Gary (I'm a fan) but I actually have mellowed some on the pick. What I keep coming back to on Gary is the WAY Pettine could and probably will use him. I mean holly crap Pettine got 10.5 sacks from Frackrell last season, can you imagine just for a minute what he can do with the additions in FA AND Gary to go with what they already had...NASTY!

For what it's worth Charlie Casserly ..(An ACTUALLY SB team building GM said the Packers won the draft).. Obviously we won't know who won for a few years yet, but this defense doesn't have a glaring weakness now. I know many point to ILB but Jesus Christ give Burks a chance and TRUST in Pettine.

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HankScorpio's picture

April 28, 2019 at 06:45 am

I've seen clips of Gary hustling downfield to tackle RBs and WRs. I did not watch every snap of his college career and even if I did, I would not be qualified to evaluate his effort. But I have more concerns about his lack of variety of pass rush moves than I do about his effort level.

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sonomaca's picture

April 28, 2019 at 07:58 am

You raise a good question. Where does he play, exactly? He’s not an EDGE. I think this was part of the problem at Michigan.

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zeroluv's picture

April 28, 2019 at 08:07 am

Gary is a linebacker similar to how Julius Peppers played. Their traits are the same which is awesome! Before the news of his shoulder he was a top 5 pick no matter what people said about his stats. He was a steal at 12.

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JohnnyLogan's picture

April 27, 2019 at 07:36 pm

The question isn't whether Gute drafted good players, he did but did he get enough weapons for the offense? Adams goes down and Allison is our #1. He absolutely had to grab a receiver in the 2nd. The Ol Jenkins is good but there were still OL to be had later. Huge mistake. I don't think a year's experience for our 4th and 5th round WR's from last year will turn any of them into Jordy or Jennings or Cobb. At one time Rodgers had all of that firepower and our offense was great. Now he has Adams... and hope.

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JakeDickerson's picture

April 27, 2019 at 08:14 pm

So having Turner, Jenkins, Spriggs, and McCray as backups isn’t enough??

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zeroluv's picture

April 27, 2019 at 08:54 pm

It’s never enough...you always look for better players...also this is sprigs last year.

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jeepingmakooi's picture

April 28, 2019 at 07:28 am

Siragusa Madison Jenkins spriggs light... You have more then you think there guy. Your not in that room and not on the field for practice.. you have no idea what these guys look like yet. Well besides McCray and spriggs..

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fthisJack's picture

April 28, 2019 at 08:12 am

don't forget about Patrick!

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PeteK's picture

April 28, 2019 at 01:46 pm

Turner is probably the right guard, all the rest have poor track records. When Bulaga misses his usual group of games we'll be wishing we moved up to get Risner or Taylor.

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Jonathan Spader's picture

April 27, 2019 at 08:16 pm

2018 RAS Scores:

Equanimeous St. Brown 9.84
Marquez Scantling 9.25
J’Mon Moore 8.43

If only we had athletic WRs for Rodgers to throw to...

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EddieLeeIvory's picture

April 27, 2019 at 08:37 pm

RAS scores aren't what make WRs into great ones.

These guys need reps with #12.
Reps & more reps.

I wish we could keep 17 & 81 on the sideline & force 12 to work only with the young talents.
But they all have to learn a total new offense, so 17 & 81 gotta get the majority of reps.

My question for y'all: which WR will get the 3rd most targets?

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

April 27, 2019 at 08:48 pm

I do like J'mon Moores attitude. He doesn't get down himself and when he does get the ball in his hands he's aggressive. Hopefully, he has the playbook down better and can focus on just catching the ball. I would have loved to have had Andy Isabella as a slot WR to bad.

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zeroluv's picture

April 27, 2019 at 09:32 pm

Andy would have been a stud for us but I think Gutey likes tall receivers and Andy isn’t tall at all by any stretch.

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dblbogey's picture

April 27, 2019 at 11:02 pm

Um, the playbook this year is totally different than last year. You say some ridiculous things.

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zeroluv's picture

April 27, 2019 at 08:55 pm

St.Brown and Kumerow I think will take over the #3 and #4 spots

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 28, 2019 at 07:49 am

E-Quan was the steal of 2018s draft. The only WR in this draft worth looking at was Deebo Samuel and he has an injury history. Cambell has a two-route game at the moment. Did Like to snag McLaurin, but Gutekunst needed another two pick. O line was a priority pick. Jenkins hopefully will displace one of the scrubs from last year and solidify the Inside. Sternberger is another receiver from the Y position. Not worried about Rodgers getting the ball to these guys, just keeping him clean.

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

April 27, 2019 at 08:45 pm

Spriggs is going to be cut. He is horrible.

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dobber's picture

April 28, 2019 at 06:11 am

AT this point, he's the only viable backup LT they have. Until they replace him, he's on the roster.

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JohnnyLogan's picture

April 27, 2019 at 10:44 pm

They're all one trick ponies... they run fast. They were drafted in the late rounds because they don't have moves. It's why Rodgers threw a thousand balls into the stands last year.

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sonomaca's picture

April 28, 2019 at 08:02 am

It took Devante Adams 3 years to figure it out. If the young guys are smart, they’ll study everything he does.

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PeteK's picture

April 28, 2019 at 01:58 pm

He'll have Allison and a maturer Scantling this year. Also, there seems to be a Rogers connect with Kumerow as a possession receiver. A big part of the passing game will rely on the health of Jones.

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CoachJV's picture

April 27, 2019 at 09:58 pm

What on earth makes you think drafting a rookie is going to help that much... no matter what round a WR is drafted in, he's still going to take 2 or 3 years to build Chemistry with AR... Do you think that if Adams went down that AR is suddenly going to start throwing to a 2nd RD pick, just because he's a 2nd round pick?

Adams took 3 years to develop... remember his big case of the drops in year 2? Everyone was screaming to cut him... now look.

ESB, MVS, will be fine.

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tm_inter's picture

April 27, 2019 at 11:14 pm

I believe the Packers now have enough receivers: Adams, allison, Valdes-Scantling, St. Brown, Kumerow, and Moore, probably in that order.

And don't forget that Graham and Sternberger are primarily receivers, not blockers. So they both will get a lot of targets from Rodgers.

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Adorabelle's picture

April 28, 2019 at 12:08 am

One thing the Packers have are a ton of young receivers. Drafting a receiver early would just add more young ones to the group. Why would a drafted one be instantly ahead of the others? I could see signing a vet slot receiver as insurance, but a rookie is just adding a number 6 receiver to the mix.

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HankScorpio's picture

April 28, 2019 at 06:59 am

I'm with you, JohnnyLogan. I would have preferred more bodies on offense than they got. Last October, I jumped on the bandwagon that years of defense-heavy drafting had taken their toll on the offense. I saw nothing that made we want to jump off that bandwagon since then.

As it stands, we're counting on MM being the root cause of most of the problems that showed in 2018. Maybe that's true, maybe it's not, maybe it is partially true. I would have preferred the bets were hedged a bit more. A 2nd TE, 2nd OL and another WR would have made me feel a lot better about the offense heading into 2019.

I will say that I was a fan of Allan Lazard in the 2018 draft process. I think that late season pickup might bear some fruit. And maybe Cole Madison qualifies as that 2nd OL, although I am not as excited about his return to football as some others seem to be.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 28, 2019 at 08:02 am

Definitely liked Lazard coming out of Iowa State. Runs clean routes bust is lacking burst. If he works on his explosion, the possession receiver job could be his and he blocks well downfield. New sheriff in town. Competititon is wide open.
The drafts were defense heavy because Ted missed on too many guys and you can't fly on paper airplanes.

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HankScorpio's picture

April 28, 2019 at 08:29 am

I definitely agree the defense needed more talent, too. That's why I wanted them to trade down, not up. 5-6 guys on each side of the ball was my hope. They got one side of that and that's good.

Both sides would have been better, IMO. Alas, that is not how it worked out.

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sonomaca's picture

April 28, 2019 at 08:08 am

I think it’s pretty clear this won’t be an explosive offense. I’d go so far as to say the strength and focus of this team is defense, which hasn’t been the case for a very long time.

If the defense isn’t what it appears to be on paper, going to be a long season.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 28, 2019 at 09:10 am

Pack won the SB with Quarless and Crab at the TEs spots; Starks a rookie RB from the seventh rd; Charlie Peprah at the FS; Bush a sp.teamer made the big INt. When the dust settles, its all about TEAM. Develop new energy and execute the plays. This team is getting faster and smarter with these two drafts.

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Archie's picture

April 28, 2019 at 09:15 am

Well, given that he spent 4 premium draft picks finishing his rebuild of the defense including picks 1A and 1B and 4A and 4B, here's what he accomplished on offense:

1 - Solidified interior OL, including a G who could easily start at C;
2 - A pass catching weapon at TE; and,
3 - #3 RB with considerable upside.

Not bad for one draft. Yes, I realize there is no stud OT or WR1 in that group but you can't fix everything at once. There's always next year.

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dobber's picture

April 27, 2019 at 07:44 pm

Exactly two of their pre-draft visits ended up on the draft list (last year it was 4). No word as to how many of these draft picks they met with at the Combine.

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jh9's picture

April 28, 2019 at 05:52 pm

I'll give Gutekunst credit. He is a gambler. He waged his reputation and future as a GM with the Gary and Savage picks.

If Gary is productive and Savage becomes an all-pro, Gutekunst will be hailed as a genius.

However, three years from now, if Gary is unproductive, Gutekunst will be criticized for ignoring what everyone said. And if Savage, who was the first DB taken in the draft, doesn't become an all-pro Gutekunst will be criticized for over-valuing him.

Both were high-risk decisions, and it will be interesting to watch how these two players perform. Their performance will determine the success or failure of this year's draft.

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zeroluv's picture

April 27, 2019 at 07:59 pm

Gutey said he knows for a fact that savage wouldn’t be there at 30. The interesting part was when a Greenbay took Savage at 21, Baltimore traded the 22 pick right away so that tells me he had intel that Savage was a Ravens pick at 22. So if Savage is the guy...you get him no matter what. I like the pick...he reminds me of a young Earl Thomas....same height, weight, speed and hits like a Mack truck. Ted Thompson hung his hat on the Rodgers pick when we still had Favre playing at a high level. Gutey will make his own legacy here. He is a smart GM.

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

April 27, 2019 at 08:49 pm

Failure is the shadow of greatness.

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EddieLeeIvory's picture

April 27, 2019 at 08:55 pm

How would Guty have "intel" the Ravens were about to take Savage? Let's think deeply & realistically about that question.

Snowden?
Michael Steele?
The Russians?
Guty bugged the Ravens War Room?
Guty have a spy high up with the Ravens GM?

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zeroluv's picture

April 28, 2019 at 08:14 am

Don't be a dumbass your entire life. Get educated before you post in threads...People in the league talk and move to other teams all the time. The Packers hired the Baltimore scout Milt Hendrickson a few months ago. Gutey said he knew for a FACT he wouldn’t be there so something tells me he had intel from Hendrickson because Baltimore traded back down after the Pack move up to take him. The Colts also traded down right after as well to Washington. They wanted him too....This isn’t rocket science to figure that out.

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CalPacker's picture

April 28, 2019 at 12:32 am

The Ravens know one or two things about defense, too. I'm no expert, but when I watched Savage's tape a couple of months ago, my immediate thought was--holy shit, how can people be sleeping on this guy? Turns out they weren't. Tremendous pick by Gute.

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sonomaca's picture

April 28, 2019 at 08:12 am

Yeah, Ravens, Maryland. They surely knew everything there is to know about Savage. Probably hoping to keep it in the down low.

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HankScorpio's picture

April 28, 2019 at 07:11 am

Yeah, it is pretty obvious that the Packers have a source in their draft room that might have some insight into the Ravens' intentions, in Milt Hendrickson. It's not like the Ravens started their work on the 2019 draft after he moved to GB and he almost certainly still has friends there. You have to want to miss that connection to not see it.

And as Gute didn't say how he "knew" Savage would not last to 30, maybe it was another team that had their eye on him. After the trade on Thursday night, I saw a tweet that Indy was going to take Savage. They also traded back (with Washington) after the Packers moved up for Savage.

The point is that kind of thing leaks out all the time. To suggest it never does is laughably naive. That's why the Raiders threw their scouts out of the draft room once their big board was finalized.

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sonomaca's picture

April 28, 2019 at 08:16 am

Lots of buzz about Savage leading into draft. Ravens knew Pack needed a safety. Surprised they didn’t move up a pick or two.

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Bure9620's picture

April 28, 2019 at 07:07 am

Milt Hendrickson who just came over from the Ravens

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JakeDickerson's picture

April 27, 2019 at 08:17 pm

What makes you think Gutenkunst listens to what “everyone” says? What makes you think any GM listens to what, I’m assuming you mean draftniks, say?

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 28, 2019 at 08:09 am

Who was he supposed to move on? Fant or Dillard? Gary was rated btw #6 and #11 on most boards. Thought he would go to the Giants or Buffalo. and had Farrell pegged to the Pack. Gruden surprised the predicted order and got the guy who showed for the past three years. Burns is too light, without power up top and would take two to three years to come into his own controlling the edge. He's a DPR type of guy.

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zeroluv's picture

April 27, 2019 at 08:00 pm

I really thought this was a great draft. Gary will be a electric player for us. He is only 21 and a physical specimen. He will be another Julius Peppers. Darnell Savage is a beast! Can anyone say Earl Thomas? They are the same height, weight, speed and they both hit hard as heck. He has the same motor and the same aggressiveness. This is a day 1 starter for Greenbay hands down. I like the Jenkins pick because I don’t believe Taylor Lane will start again unless someone gets hurt. Lane is 30 years old and 2 years left in his contract. Jace Sternberger is a STUD! He reminds me of Zach Ertz watching his tape. I love this pick! Fifth round pick Keke is a possible replacement for Mike Daniels in 2020. The dude is ripped and heavy. He moves quick....this pick is solid. The last pick we took in the 7th round was ILB Ty Summers. This kid looks like the biggest steal yet. He is fast and hits hard. Watch his tape....his skills will translate into the NFL. Overall I love this draft....it didn’t fall the way I wanted it to but it usually never does. I will say I hate the Steelers more now than ever before for trading up and taking Devin Bush ahead of us. I also hate the Broncos for trading that pick to them. I do think Gary will be a better player for us long term especially if he turns into a Julius Peppers clone which he says he models his game after. Overall, I love this draft class.

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Swisch's picture

April 27, 2019 at 08:34 pm

Savage may be one of those rare safeties that is excellent at coverage and tackling.
How many of those were in this draft, or can be found in the NFL? (I don't know the answer, but am glad we potentially have one of them.)

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

April 27, 2019 at 08:52 pm

Gute obviously doesn't which is good. If he succeeds, then he gets ALL the credit, ho however if he failed, well, he better go ask TT.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 28, 2019 at 08:19 am

Watching Big Ten games he stood out, just as Thomas did with the crew he played with for Mack Brown. The other Maryland DBs will be showing up in future drafts. The maryland vs Ohio State game was a classic. I had Thornhill a the safe bet @ #30 but after watching more tape you could see Savage's movement from the hash was better and his 4.35 speed translated to faster plays on the ball. If Amos was just a FS then Abram would be a guy that dominates the short areas, sideline to sideline. The Pack has that type of player in Josh Jones if he can figure it out.

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splitpea1's picture

April 27, 2019 at 08:00 pm

I think Gute did his best to remake the defense this off-season, which was sorely needed. I'm also happy with the OL depth and new TE. To me, though, the key to the draft is Savage--it can't be considered a success if he doesn't develop quickly, and more importantly, stay healthy. Jeez, I'm already nervous....

The one area that didn't get addressed in the backup QB situation. I know Kizer hasn't really had a fair trial (at least with us), but still, I don't think anyone is very confident if AR misses some time. What are we going to do here?

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zeroluv's picture

April 27, 2019 at 08:04 pm

You don’t draft a QB high to back up Rodgers as a “just in case” they will bring in at-least 2 undrafted players and try them out. Boyle is still developing decently and Kiser I think is better then we think. He wasn’t given a shot really...but he has another year under his belt learning from the best. I love this draft...it doesn’t make me nervous at all...in fact this is one of the best drafts we have had imo. It’s even better than last year and I thought last year was real good.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 28, 2019 at 08:27 am

Pack used the fourth round picks to get their guy. In an ideal world those picks would be there to use on Stidhem, a guy Bill took in the fourth. Grier was my favorite of the QBs because of his escapability and moxy. He went in the third. If Gutekunst had inherited more solid depth on this team he would be more free to look at a couple QBs higher. The kid from OK State can fling it.

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Swisch's picture

April 27, 2019 at 08:41 pm

Maybe keep either Kizer or Boyle, and trade the other for a veteran backup QB who really could fill in right away for Rodgers at a respectable level, at least for a couple of games.
By the way, Kizer was a first-rounder just two drafts ago, and Boyle was a trendy late-rounder in the last draft. It seems at least one may be a future starter in the NFL, or at least a trusty backup.

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CoachJV's picture

April 27, 2019 at 10:03 pm

Trade the other with whom?

No one is going to trade a developmental QB for a vet... no one...

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Swisch's picture

April 27, 2019 at 10:09 pm

How about include one of our backup QBs in a trade for a veteran QB to back up Rodgers?

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fthisJack's picture

April 28, 2019 at 08:30 am

i just read this morning and don't know if its true, that the Packers were going to pick Drew Lock in the second until Denver jumped in front of them and took him. there would have been a HUGE uproar over that pick if it had happened!

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Swisch's picture

April 27, 2019 at 08:13 pm

As a matter of review, but still important points of perspective, it seems to me:
(1) Even with the trade up in the draft, we still had eight picks in seven rounds, and four picks in the first three/four rounds;
(2) Cole Madison coming back is like an extra pick this year;
(3) While signing four free agents adds immediate experience, and brings the total number of new guys to thirteen.
It seems a good haul -- to go with a lot of promising young guys already on the team.
***
The Packers seem young and lean and fast and tough -- and ready to ascend toward the Super Bowl over the next couple of years (especially with an elite quarterback ready to finish his last years with a championship or two). Predicting playoffs this season.
P.S. It seems Gary may be liberated and enlivened by not having a hand in the dirt; and could slim down a little to be a ferocious linebacker on the inside.

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Since'61's picture

April 27, 2019 at 08:25 pm

This draft brings more speed and athleticism to the Packers than we have had in quite some time. With the FA signings and our draft picks Gute has addressed Edge, Safety, OL and TE. Plus he has added depth on the DL, at RB, ILB and CB. The only area not addressed was backup QB. The Packers will probably sign another UDFA QB and a WR or two by early next week.

Gute's off season work so far should produce 4 starters on defense and at least one on the offense. The 2 Smiths, Amos and Savage will start on defense and either Turner, Madison or Jenkins will start on the OL. Gary will get snaps on the defense and Sternberger will contribute to the offense. Beyond this it's all gravy. Plus there may still be a few more moves between now and the end of TC. Time will tell but it's a nice job by Gute so far. Go Pack Go! Thanks, Since '61

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 28, 2019 at 08:34 am

They have Wilkerson and Campbell nursing injuries and they may come into play as the season starts up. Just moving the dead weight out at the trade deadline helped the attitude on the defense. Getting the three and outs will help this team win.

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Lphill's picture

April 27, 2019 at 08:40 pm

We needed a pure middle linebacker . Burks is a bust all we have is Martinez and may lose him after this season. Big mistake by Gute.

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

April 27, 2019 at 08:56 pm

I agree. Now, in what year are we going to pick up some offense in the 1st round?

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zeroluv's picture

April 27, 2019 at 09:07 pm

Burks isn’t a bust at all. He is still developing. When Bush was taken by Pittsburg the draft changed. There wasn’t a ILB worth a crap after Bush and White. Gutey didn't fail...the draft didn’t fall that way. This was a good draft overall.

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tm_inter's picture

April 27, 2019 at 11:46 pm

Ty Summers looks like a faster clone of Blake Martinez, IMO. A lot of production in college: 22.5 sacks in 4 years.

And don't forget Josh Jones is still around, probably as an ILB rather than S.

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HankScorpio's picture

April 28, 2019 at 06:40 am

You cannot have an elite defense without having ILBs that can run. Prior to last year's draft, the Packers had zero ILBs that could run. With Burks and Summers, they have two. That's progress in the right direction.

Like most rookies, including 1st rounders, both will need some time to develop. But the sooner you get them, the sooner that developmental period ends. The draft is rarely an instant gratification type of thing. If you're evaluating any draft class with an eye toward "putting them over the top", you're going to be routinely disappointed.

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zeroluv's picture

April 28, 2019 at 08:58 am

I think Josh Jones will be a ILB this year which will help the depth at that position. If he shows promise I think Blake will be traded for picks or let go to test the market. I like Blake but he can’t cover well. He won’t be worth the money teams will over pay for him. That’s where Josh Jones can excel if he can protect the box like Blake does now.

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RWood832's picture

April 28, 2019 at 03:30 pm

There may not have been an ILB as elite as the Devins, but there were a few that have potential that GB may have had a shot at if they had kept their fourth round picks including Vosean Joseph, Germaine Pratt and Ben Burr-Kirven. My heart broke a little when I saw those guys go off the board.

I expect the Packers to carry only 3 ILBs on the roster this year, not counting Josh Jones who will be a quasi-ILB. Look for more 4 man defensive line fronts. The strength of the defense should be the D-Line with Z. Smith, Gary and Keke playing with their hands in the dirt more often than not.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 28, 2019 at 08:39 am

The rated guys were off the board by #10. What did you want him to do trade up in the first for an ILB?

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Mark Gaedtke's picture

April 27, 2019 at 08:41 pm

Not a sexy draft, but but filled a lot of holes. I don't think a rookie wide receiver would have been much help this year. The vast majority of them (Adams, Cobb and Nelson, for example) don't do much their first year. I think we need to be patient with the guys we picked up last year. Nobody after the 2nd round would have been much improvement from what we already have. I'm trusting that Gutey knows more than the pundits.

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

April 27, 2019 at 08:57 pm

Josh Jones is hanging by a thread and so is Montravious Adams.

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dobber's picture

April 28, 2019 at 06:14 am

You weren't watching: Montravious Adams played better down the stretch with extended snaps last fall.

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

April 30, 2019 at 09:05 pm

M.. Adam's 3rd year coming up...

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IceBowl's picture

April 30, 2019 at 09:18 pm

Poor Dougy,

Do you just want to post everyone's tenure???

Or do you have a point?

My year is coming up too.

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Slim11's picture

April 28, 2019 at 08:28 am

I agree on Jones.

Adams got some snaps later in the season and showed something. If it comes down to cut day and there's a question about keeping an extra d-lineman vs. o-lineman, Adams might be in question.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 28, 2019 at 08:42 am

Jones will have to win the job patrolling the short area as a SS/ILB rover position which he played at NC State. Jones was scouted by Gutekunst. He's his guy.
Maybe the light will go on, otherwise, you have a sp teams player who collects penalties.

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sonomaca's picture

April 28, 2019 at 08:54 am

Makes sense. Gute prefers extreme athletes to polished football players. Jones isn’t renowned for his intellectual ability, so it’s imperative that Martinez be there to direct him.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 28, 2019 at 08:43 am

Jones will have to win the job patrolling the short area as a SS/ILB rover position which he played at NC State. Jones was scouted by Gutekunst. He's his guy.
Maybe the light will go on, otherwise, you have a sp teams player who collects penalties.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 28, 2019 at 08:45 am

I like Montravious. He needs more reps. Hopefully Pettine shows more 4-3 fronts and they keep more than six D linemen.

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

April 28, 2019 at 12:47 pm

He is entering his 3rd year time is counting down on J. Jones and M. Adam's they gotta pick it up.

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BlueOx's picture

April 27, 2019 at 09:00 pm

I keep reading here that Billy Turner will “compete” for a spot on the starting OL. When you pay a guy $28 million with a $9 million signing bonus, you don’t bring him in to compete. He will be locked into one of the OG spots, and the other will be an open competition between Taylor, Madison, Jenkins and the holdover players. Bulaga’s replacement will likely come next year. Too bad he can’t stay healthy. You couldn’t ask for more toughness and integrity from a Packer player.

Regarding the draft, I was also underwhelmed after so much hype about the possibilities this year. I’m still optimistic because they drafted great athletes at key positions, but it’s like crunching a salad when you really want a bacon cheeseburger. Over the past 30 years, I’ve learned that my personal preferences seldom align with who they actually pick. Many times, they prove me dead wrong. Other times, my amateur hunches turn out to be right.

What I really wish they would do is trade up for top talent when it’s within reach. There are many examples of when highly rated players at positions of need fell within striking distance. Ray Lewis and Darrelle Revis come to mind.

This year, I personally would have offered both ones and a 2020 pick to trade up for Quinnen Williams. I believe that he would have virtually guaranteed a stout defense for years to come.

I’m a longtime reader of this site, but seldom post. Feels good to chime in every once in a while!!!

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Qoojo's picture

April 27, 2019 at 09:06 pm

That just it. Turner is your basic journeyman OL guy. It raised a lot of eyebrows when packers gave him so much money. The amount paid doesn't mean he plays at that level. Packers just have faith that he can do it based on tape.

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CalPacker's picture

April 28, 2019 at 12:44 am

Going all in on QW is an interesting thought, but there are risks to every strategy. I agree he's a guaranteed star, but shit happens--for instance, an injury to QW would leave the cupboard bare, as opposed to the situation we have now. I personally see Savage as a can't miss star, and Gary as an interesting roll of the dice. Not saying you're wrong, but it's definitely a close call. Of all the trade-up scenarios we passed on, yours is maybe the only one that is tempting to me...

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 28, 2019 at 08:48 am

Is Williams better than Kenny Clark? He showed for One year and Simmons was the best D lineman in this draft.

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MarkinMadison's picture

April 28, 2019 at 08:39 am

I think what you are overlooking is that there is a very high chance that Bulaga will not make it through the season healthy. That means Taylor may very well have to kick outside at some point. So the depth chart in week 1 is going to be just as important as the starting lineup in week 1. Check to see that Taylor "wins" the RG position, and then check to see who is his backup, because that player will be starting at some point in the season, probably by week 9.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 28, 2019 at 08:51 am

They cannot count on Spriggs, so Gutekunst bought insurance. 40 some sacks given up by the O line in 2018. Not acceptable.

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Since'61's picture

April 28, 2019 at 09:11 am

49 sacks plus over 100 QB hits. Thanks, Since ‘61

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fthisJack's picture

April 28, 2019 at 08:41 am

they just did trade up for a top talent. SAVAGE! and only had to give up 2 fours in the process!

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sonomaca's picture

April 28, 2019 at 08:57 am

You can’t gift anyone a job. Can’t have better players riding the pine.

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KneelYoung's picture

April 27, 2019 at 09:00 pm

The older I get the more I realize the less I know. That applies in many parts of life including the NFL draft. Bottom line for me is that I am excited about what the defense will look like next year and how the TE Jace and the RB Juice from Notre dame will contribute next year. I really love the NFL Draft. Sad it is over. Been a hoot sharing it with you all.

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

April 27, 2019 at 09:05 pm

It is up to the coaches to get the full potential of our players and use them in the proper positions. Gary has to turn out fast. 4 years is a short time. 2-3 year project and then great contract year and then gone. 3 years wasted.
Reports say since we have both Smith's and that Gary will play a limited back up role. Still scratching my head at #12 and not predicted to start. Oh well, done and over with. That's why I wanted Hockenson at #12 the safest player in the draft, because I know the Packers would overthink the pick and I believe they did, but he is ours now, so good luck Gary do not fail us !!

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zeroluv's picture

April 27, 2019 at 09:11 pm

Gary will be a stud and he will start for us very soon. I watched him in Michigan and he was a beast! Bush and Winovich got drafted high because Gary commanded a ton of attention each game.

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IceBowl's picture

April 27, 2019 at 09:31 pm

Doug,

You are the best prognosticator I have ever seen. The smartest sailor in the fleet. And that smart sailor scrapes barnacles off before they become a problem. Right Doug?

What reports Doug? Any from the Pack? Anything more than guesses and hearsay Doug?

So you were wrong about Hockensen. You don't have to cry.

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MarkinMadison's picture

April 28, 2019 at 08:44 am

There are so many factual and logical flaws with the stuff you say. First round picks have a fifth-year option and have for several years now. You leap from "he has to turn out fast" to he is "3 years wasted." Put down the bottle, get out of the unhappy booze haze, and post when you are sober.

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

April 28, 2019 at 12:51 pm

Being positive and drinking the kool aid and jumping on bandwagons and being politically and sporadically..lol...will get you nothing but a thumbs up. I will take the thumbs down because I'm realistic and honest.

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IceBowl's picture

April 30, 2019 at 09:21 pm

Poor Dougy,

Your post actually says nothing. Enjoy your kool aid. And you other embellishments.

Is there a point you are trying to make?????

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

April 29, 2019 at 02:21 pm

How was I wrong about Hockenson? I believe people on this website said they would not take a TE at #12 at such a high value pick, but wanted a DL/ OL player. Hockenson went #8 to a horrible team the Lions and Fant went to Denver who should do quite well. Packers took a Defensive project at #12.

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

April 30, 2019 at 09:08 pm

TJ Watt...Christian McCaffrey etc. exploding in their 2nd year. Gary better show us a little something.

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IceBowl's picture

April 30, 2019 at 09:26 pm

Poor Dougy,

How were you right about Hockenson? Is he the starting TE (most snaps) from day one?? Is he an all pro??

What is he right now??

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Spock's picture

April 27, 2019 at 09:18 pm

Interesting draft. As usual the draftnik "experts" weren't even close and lots of players went to different teams at different rounds, expected/projected" area of the draft, etc. I try to read as little about the mocks as I can but there really is nothing else to read about the Packers (or any other team) this time of year ever since the NFL moved the Draft to late April. I'm looking forward to watching how our draft picks play within the new team scheme and new practice formulas. Looks to me like Gute gave his coaches some pretty athletic guys with football skills and now it's up to the coaches. Can't wait for Training Camp to begin. Also won't surprise me if Gute doesn't pick up some interesting cheap FA's and UDFA to the party soon. NOW the football season is upon us! Go, Pack, Go!

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zeroluv's picture

April 27, 2019 at 09:27 pm

I would love for the Packers to still sign FS Tre Boston as a rotational player. He was good and I’m shocked he is still available. He can spell Amos and Savage to give them a breather. He is young and would come cheap. Overall I’m excited for training camp and the pre-season. Gutey built this team to win and win now.

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MarkinMadison's picture

April 28, 2019 at 08:51 am

I think they need to pick up a running back. ACLs are the death sentence they used to be. Jay Ajayi and Jeremy Hill are two relatively young backs who are sitting without contracts after ACL surgeries. I hope the Packers are keeping tabs on them, and others. They need a third back who can be productive, and while Dexter Williams could pan out with Jones' injury history I'd rather have something a little more proven available.

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zeroluv's picture

April 28, 2019 at 09:42 am

Ajayi and Hill are still FA not because of their ACL injuries but because they want too much money. If they lower their demands they will find a job easily. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Ajayi go to Detroit, Arizona, Rams or Baltimore. Now that the draft is over...the left over Free agents will get calls to fill out spots and compete. As I said before....I hope the Packers sign FS Tre Boston and maybe even get DT Rodney Gunter as role players to start. Gunter could start at anytime if Daniels or Clark get hurt. These players would come cheaper and if they produce, next year they will sign elsewhere and the Pack would collect compensatory picks which is huge. Time will tell now what the Packers do but this team is looking better each day

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 28, 2019 at 08:57 am

Tramon is the backup.

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Archie's picture

April 28, 2019 at 09:55 am

I strongly disagree that the mock drafts were a waste of time.

For the first couple months of the draft season, practically every mock draft I saw was giving us Gary at 12. When the board broke the way it did, it became inevitable for Gary to land in GB short of GB hating on the guy and trading down.

As to Savage, he had the most momentum of any player in the top 40 picks in the last month. And most of us knew the Pack would take a S with pick 30 or 44. Combining the two, Savage going to GB was quite logical.

As to Jenkins, again, we all knew we needed another interior lineman. And this guy is a top C to boot in case Linsley were to go down. What I didn't know was he was coached by a Packer coach last year. Lastly, Gutey having just brought in his buddy from the Ravens to be his right hand man, and his specialty is OL. So quite a bit of logic there.

And perhaps the easiest pick of all was Sternberger in the 3rd. With the top 3 TEs off the board, Gutey went for the best pass catcher left and it matched our need.

So I think the mock drafts, combined with some logic, all pointed to the draft we had, especially if you knew who would be gone before 12.

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Since'61's picture

April 28, 2019 at 11:05 am

Excellent post Archie. I agree. Thanks, Since ‘61

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

May 01, 2019 at 10:26 pm

Oh, he will start day one and he will be a top candidate for rookie of the year even being on the pathetic Lions. Still high on the HOCK!!

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Dylan Smith's picture

April 27, 2019 at 09:34 pm

Savage, Alexander, Jackson will shut down one side of field completely, still have Amos , Williams, an whoever wins spot will be not far behind .. with savage Alexander and JACKSON being ballhawks the add Daniels, Clark, Gary, and both Smith's pressuring QB whaaaaaat!!!! Might have a serious defence.. Pettine will mold new drafts into his way an he's proven plenty over years.. an last year's drafts will only be better .. oh and don't forget with lafulers quick pass offense are last year's 4.3 40 receivers will flourish with there speed.. can u say Superbowl bound

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 28, 2019 at 09:00 am

I wouldn't write King off. He needed bulk and if the rehab went well, he should be stronger and more durable. He shuts down the big receivers.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 28, 2019 at 09:00 am

I wouldn't write King off. He needed bulk and if the rehab went well, he should be stronger and more durable. He shuts down the big receivers.

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1962Packer's picture

April 27, 2019 at 09:46 pm

Center/Guard who can play OT, but no OT drafted. Spriggs breathes a sigh of relief. Must have shown something good in the time before the draft? Haven't heard anything about Lowry?

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Archie's picture

April 28, 2019 at 09:58 am

Next year's Packer draft will be offense oriented at the top as we get our OT of teh future as well as our next WR1.

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Rossonero's picture

April 27, 2019 at 09:52 pm

I felt better as the draft went on and the more I learned about each player.

Gary -- it's possible he was asked to play too many positions at Michigan, but I'd like to find some stats on that. If anyone can scheme him open, it's Pettine.

Remember: Clay Matthews only had 4.5 sacks in his final year at USC. Gutekunst views Gary as an ascending player despite only 3.5 sacks last season.

Savage -- did anyone else notice the Ravens trade out of the 22nd pick right after we took Savage? Remember -- Milt Hendrickson left the Ravens and joined us. I just wonder if Hendrickson tipped off Gutekunst that his former team has Savage rated highly too.

My only concern with him is his scouting report doesn't read like the true free safety we need. In fact, it reads a lot like Josh Jones': fast, athletic, hard hitter, but better near the line of scrimmage than deep. I also wonder how Pettine will use Jones now. I'd hate to have a 2nd round pick wasted as a back-up safety.

Jenkins -- love this pick. His speed, athleticism and versatility will be used this season. Protect the franchise aka Rodgers! Jenkins is battle tested from the SEC. Linsley has been more durable than early on, but it's nice to have a Center with experience. I'm sure he'll compete for a starting Guard spot.

Sternberger-- love this pick too. Another ascending player. He'll get a season-- maybe 2 -- to learn how to catch and run from Jimmy Graham and how to block from Marcedes Lewis.

Keke -- sounds promising, similar to DT Josh Boyd years ago. If he ends up being a rotational force, I'm happy.

Williams, Holloman and Summers -- should just worry about making the team on special teams. Williams may have most immediate impact by virtue of being a RB and because Aaron Jones and Jamaal Williams haven't been able to stay healthy.

Between these additions and free agency and a new head coach, I'm excited to see the WRs grow with Rodgers-- especially J'Mon Moore.

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MarkinMadison's picture

April 28, 2019 at 09:02 am

From the little tape I've looked at I think it's fair to say that Gary got hit up with double teams at a relatively high rate. (Being in the front seven with both Bush and Gary made me really leery of Winovich.) The thing about Gary that worries me is the Wonderlic. He scored a 9. Tends to make me think that Michigan knew what it was doing when they put Gary in a position to eat double teams instead of setting him up more often to be the guy on a play. Is this a guy who you can put on the edge and have him make the right choices, especially if he might be forced to drop into coverage?

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

April 28, 2019 at 12:59 pm

Doubt it..but we shall see.

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ShawnO's picture

April 27, 2019 at 09:59 pm

All I keep hearing is how ML wants to run the ball more, well after last years debacle when the RBs got injured I am shocked that between draft picks and UDFA's they only brought in one RB and NO FBs.... I don't understand.

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IceBowl's picture

April 27, 2019 at 10:02 pm

Just watch.

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Jonathan Spader's picture

April 27, 2019 at 11:30 pm

Aaron Rodgers is the QB. LaFleur has never had a QB of Rodger's QB as am OC. He had an injured Mariota and the weakest WR core in the NFL last year. The Packers will run more but that's setting the bar LOW. They hardly ran it last year. More balance doesn't transform the Packers into a power running team. Just run enough to make play action convincing.

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sonomaca's picture

April 28, 2019 at 09:00 am

And keep the clock running so defense stays fresh through four quarters.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 28, 2019 at 09:02 am

Le Fleur already said they would pass more than run. He will, however, run the ball more than 15 times per game.

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dobber's picture

April 28, 2019 at 12:48 pm

In 2018, only one NFL team ran more than it threw, and that was Seattle at 52.4%. Tennessee was #2 at 48.5%.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 28, 2019 at 09:02 am

Le Fleur already said they would pass more than run. He will, however, run the ball more than 15 times per game.

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HankScorpio's picture

April 28, 2019 at 09:26 am

"Shocked" is a bit dramatic. They already have Aaron Jones and Jamaal Williams. They added a nice piece in Dexter Williams.

Just how many RBs do you imagine they need?

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zeroluv's picture

April 28, 2019 at 09:45 am

I say they need 4 solid RBs at any given time. Injuries happen and RBs wear down as the year goes. Why do you think the Pats have 4 RBs usually and rotate them each game.l and still keep winning Super Bowls and making the playoffs.

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HankScorpio's picture

April 28, 2019 at 10:16 am

I think the Pats win because of Belichick and Brady. I think I have plenty of company in crediting them much, much, much more than the ever-changing stable of RBs, some of whom are picked off the scrap bin.

That is the most unconvincing argument for emphasizing RB additions I have ever seen.

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BoCallahan's picture

April 27, 2019 at 10:02 pm

I am late to the commenting party. Been biting my tongue. Can’t hold it any longer.
I really didn’t care for the way the network handled the Simmons issue Thursday night. I wish they wouldn’t have aired the matter on prime time. I am not diminishing or excusing the matter in any way. It was terribly wrong. I appreciate how he has and is taking full responsibility and ownership of it. He is not making any excuses or justifying it in any fashion as he tries to move forward. I felt it was a poor choice to air the footage.

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Since'61's picture

April 28, 2019 at 09:18 am

Ratings are all that matter to the networks. Footage gets higher ratings than someone taking responsibility. Thanks, Since ‘61

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IceBowl's picture

April 27, 2019 at 10:05 pm

BoBoBoBo,

Isn't it nice you can feel anyway you want.

The media "hypes." And doesn't care. $$$$$

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Roger Ramjet's picture

April 27, 2019 at 10:10 pm

It’s just sad that we have so many fair weather fans who are such experts. All they do is regurgitate what the “experts” have said or written. Gute went out and got extremely aggressive in free agency which is what everyone has been screaming for a long time. He has a lot more knowledge and credentials than any of you arm chair qbs. Talk about negativity. Be a true fan and support the entire team and let the people who get paid to make personnel decisions make those decisions without even waiting for 1 year results.

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Jonathan Spader's picture

April 28, 2019 at 12:48 am

It's a Packer blogging the dead season what dis you expect? As for "fair weather fans". We're still Packer fans after 2 losing seasons in a row. Weather isn't exactly fair but we continue to be fans and hope for the best even if we discuss what could be the worst. There's nothing wrong with being disappointed. Just because someone is more knowledgeable doesn't make there right. LOTS of draft picks bust.

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JohnnyLogan's picture

April 27, 2019 at 10:36 pm

LOL, i've got 9 thumbs down for my comment about the WR's being mediocre. I happen to love what Gute did with this draft... for the defense, and he did help the O with Jenkins and Jace. But... before the draft, everyone and his sister said we needed a WR. Hollywood Brown, Isabella, A.J.Brown, Pariss Cambell were among the favorites... but now that we didn't draft any WR's the consensus is "What me worry? We drafted 3 last year. They'll be great because they run fast and have a year of experience." I say again, Adams gets hurt and your #1 receiver is Geronimo Allison. Repeat with me, Geronimo Allison. Every DB in the league will be drooling and Rodgers will be tossing even more balls into the stands. Gute screwed the pooch in not getting someone who can actually run routes as opposed to our tall guys who run in a straight line like they're in the final stretch at Santa Anita. They were late round picks because they have no moves. These are guys who can't cut and are easily covered. I'm now open to take all your thumbs down... but hope to be totally wrong.

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Fire_Gute's picture

April 27, 2019 at 10:54 pm

I feel the same way about Geronimo Allison. I think if his name was John Allison most fans would say what the hell is he doing as our number 2 receiver.

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Adorabelle's picture

April 28, 2019 at 12:15 am

I am not saying I disagree that they are thin there. I just don't think a rookie is what helps. The rookie given how Rodgers deals with rookies is most likely to be the number 6 receiver and not the guy thats going to move into Adams slot if he goes down.

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fastmoving's picture

April 28, 2019 at 04:48 am

WR was and is the least need on the team. Its all about how AR uses his many weapons. Does not make any difference if he has one more, if he is off again. other then that, there is only one ball to go around and just 2-4 WR positions.
so draft another WR makes zero sense to me. we have more than enough good to great ones

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JohnnyLogan's picture

April 28, 2019 at 08:46 am

Fastmoving... we have one great one. Who are the good ones? Not one of last years rookies has as yet attained that level of distinction. You're right, there's only one ball to go around but like last year it will either go to Adams or a fan in the stands. A good rookie receiver in the slot like Brown or Cambell or Deebo would have made a huge difference. This mantra that Rodgers doesn't trust rookies isn't exactly right, he doesn't trust rookies who can't run their routes, as our rookies couldn't last year. Adams better not get any boo boos this year because a team with Geronimo Allison as it's #1 receiver isn't going to the Super Bowl. Always remember Ron Wolf's greatest lament, that he didn't give Favre enough weapons. TT actually did give Rodgers weapons by drafting receivers in the 2nd round thus you had great ones like Jordy, Jennings and Cobb. Now we have Allison, EQ and MVS. You honestly believe, or just hope, they'll be that good? I'm up to 20 dislikes on my first post saying we have mediocre WR's. Am I nearing a record?

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fastmoving's picture

April 28, 2019 at 11:00 am

Dont need great ones if AR is halfway himself. Even we may have at least really good ones after Adams. Last years Rookies played way better than Jordy in his first year. They taller and faster that everything we had before and you forgot Moore, Kumerow and the TEs. If at least one of them all makes a jump, we have one of the best WR groups in the NFL.
Look what the other top QBs doing with less. You can spin it like you want, its 70% about the QB, the rest are just details

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Archie's picture

April 28, 2019 at 10:09 am

It will take another season to be able to evaluate whether any of last year's WR draftees can take it to the next level. When we chose Jenkins, Sternberger and gave up our two 4ths, Gute raised the white flag on WRs for this year. I'm OK with all that but at the same time, if nobody emerges as a strong WR2 this season, I believe we are forced to go WR next year with #1 or #2 pick.

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

April 28, 2019 at 04:03 pm

Long way to go before you catch me ..

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zeroluv's picture

April 28, 2019 at 11:18 am

If Adams goes down there are free agents that can help like Crabtree and Jordy Nelson who would come out of retirement to help I’m sure. If Adams doesn’t go down then you are getting our young receivers experience which is what they need.

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

April 28, 2019 at 01:02 pm

I get more thumbs down than all of you put together. Resilient.

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dobber's picture

April 28, 2019 at 01:04 pm

The way I see it, either...
1. LaF likes what he has at WR and they think they can make it work.
2. They never had a WR near the top of their board when a pick came up.
3. Management said that they buried the position last year and that they needed the draft capital elsewhere.
4. Could be all of the above.

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blondy45's picture

April 28, 2019 at 08:31 pm

Johnny Logan, thumbs still down. If Adams goes down and we did draft a WR high, who would our #1 WR be? Geronimo Allison. We need Aaron Rodgers to practice and work with our talented group of WR's. Come cut down day, there will be plenty of fans gripping about cutting these very good WR's.

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Fire_Gute's picture

April 27, 2019 at 10:49 pm

I am very disappointed in this draft. I have that feeling from growing up when your mom wasn't mad at you, she was disappointed in you. I'm not mad or angry at the picks, but extremely disappointed. I was very wide open on the first pick. Ol, dl, wr, te, lb, s, rb basically everything except a qb. The only thing I wanted was a player who played the same position in college as he was projected to play in the pros, his production matched his combine numbers , and wasn't hurt. Well, gute found a way to combine everything i didn't want into one. I get that Gary has potential to be a top 5 talent at pick 12,but our track record of conversion projects couldn't be worse.

We needed an offensive play maker in the first 3 picks. I am glad we didn't pick Metcalf, but there was a lot of talent there at 44. I like the te pick, but it's well past time to invest in a WR or Rb in round 1 or 2.

I don't mind the guard pick in round 2,especially if it means Taylor gets cut to save 3 million or so this year to pick up a WR in free agency. I certainly would have rather had a tackle or drafted a WR though.

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Guam's picture

April 28, 2019 at 08:27 am

There was such a wide disparity of opinions this year about who and what positions the Packers should draft that I think we are all living with some disappointment. There is no way Gute could have pleased everyone or perhaps even anyone on this site given the diversity of opinions.

While I was disappointed with the Gary selection, I also know that I am an amateur and Gute is the professional. I will happily wait to be proven wrong by the Packer organization. Go Pack Go!

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Fire_Gute's picture

April 28, 2019 at 08:48 am

I get that Gute is a pro. But so was TT. He stuck us with a ton of these conversion projects and none of them worked. I just wish i felt better about a draft where we had 3 picks in the top 44

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

April 28, 2019 at 01:13 pm

Uh oh, your in the thumbs down group with me now..

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Archie's picture

April 28, 2019 at 10:20 am

Given who was on the board when we picked at 12, who would you have taken? I was expecting Montez Sweat. Obviously Gute didn't like him all that much. But to criticize a top pick as disappointing, I think you have an obligation to tell us who would not have been disappointing to you at pick 12.

I had Sweat, Gary, Wilkens and Burns on my list, in that order.

I didn't want a QB, a RB, a WR, a CB or a S. There were a couple of OTs I would have been ok with if they didn't like my top 4 defensive guys.

In retrospect, I believe this draft was not as strong at the top as many had professed. With Simmons, Polite and Sweat all dropping down in the end.

I for one am glad to see the Pack's rebuild on defense complete. Going forward we can afford to give the offense at least equal priority to defense. Strong defense will benefit our offense. Only fear I have is Kahlil Mack being held at bay by Bulaga's back-up. But for opening night at least, we should be solid.

Back to the playoffs in 2019. And then one more Super Bowl for Rogers before he retires! GO PACK GO!

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dobber's picture

April 28, 2019 at 01:05 pm

I thought Sweat was a possibility as well, but even after the Packers passed (twice, by the way) he lasted into the mid-20s. So teams weren't all that high on him or still worried about his health concerns.

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RWood832's picture

April 28, 2019 at 03:56 pm

Disappointed is a sentiment I shared at the end of the first round too. You articulated my feelings about Gary very well. Perhaps we are being too harsh and it's true that he did all of the crap work and was double and tripled teamed frequently which made his teammates on defense better. If he does the same in GB, great.

My wife tells me that a trait of a man is that he doesn't care what is on tv, he cares about what else is on tv. I fall into this trap a lot when it comes to watching the Packers' draft each year. I spend time reading and watching tape so that I can try to make educated guesses just like most amateur GMs do. The most disappointing thing for me is that it seemed like the spread between the safeties was not that great among the top three or four, but Gutekunst obviously felt differently when he traded out of the fourth round for Savage. GB has picked so many quality players in that round over the years that I really wanted to keep those bites at the apple.

I guess my preference is that Gutekunst would have traded down from 12 to get Savage and then traded up from 30 to pick Fant (he went at 20 where I always thought he would) or stayed there and picked Bulaga's replacement.

Isn't this what we amateur/armchair GMs do? I know all this debate on websites like this enhances my enjoyment of the process.

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zeroluv's picture

April 28, 2019 at 10:19 pm

Good thing you are a armchair GM. You would never make it in the NFL. Lol

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CalPacker's picture

April 28, 2019 at 12:47 am

Overall, I absolutely love these picks. I may not know as much as the next guy, but after researching this thing to death over the last couple of months, one thing I do know: mock drafts are a complete waste of time. Next year I'll just watch some tape and let the pros in the front office do their thing...

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sonomaca's picture

April 28, 2019 at 09:03 am

I don’t think it’s wise to say you love the picks. In a year or two, you might hate the picks.

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zeroluv's picture

April 28, 2019 at 11:20 am

You can love the picks still based on potential.

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Bure9620's picture

April 28, 2019 at 07:32 am

Dexter Williams is truly a one cut back that fits this scheme. He averaged 6.5 ypc in college, that is nearly Jonathan Taylor territory. Also not much mileage on him either.

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Montana's picture

April 28, 2019 at 08:17 am

I am with you Cali....the mocks are just a preamble to a draft that is a crapshoot in the end. I like the athleticism of all our picks and feel we addressed all the holes especially on defense.

I've been lamenting not having a top ten defense since we won the SB in 2010. With the Smiths, Amos, and Savage I believe we have the tools to have a top ten defense. Give Pettine some credit to get the most out of Gary and turn this unit into an elite squad. I am optimistic for the year to start.....Go Pack

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sonomaca's picture

April 28, 2019 at 09:06 am

Athletic ability may or may not mean great football player. Josh Jones and Spriggs are great athletes ( was Spriggs a Gute guy?). Jaire is both.

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HankScorpio's picture

April 28, 2019 at 09:51 am

Athleticism does not guarantee anything but it does define possibilities. No donkey ever won the Kentucky Derby, no matter how much he wanted it.

You can watch film until you're blue in the face but int the end, what you're watching is donkey races, compared to NFL thoroughbred races. Sometimes the good looking ones are nothing more than better donkeys. It you have a way to determine which ones are thoroughbreds and use it, you're not guaranteeing you've found a great thoroughbred, just that you're not getting a better donkey.

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Archie's picture

April 28, 2019 at 10:22 am

Excellent application of logic! :)

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Montana's picture

April 28, 2019 at 12:03 pm

Hank......

Good points, the draft is a crapshoot until the donkeys run the track. Here's to hoping our donkeys are better than the rest.....Go Pack

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zeroluv's picture

April 28, 2019 at 12:24 pm

All college players are gambles...the NFL is 10 times harder and faster than anything they did at the college level. Some players excel under the NFL speed and others fail. That’s why you see 6th rounders excel sometimes because they play up to the challenge. Some higher draft picks fail because that challenge is too big for them even though the college speed was perfect for them. You need to draft players for speed, heart and passion. Those are things you can’t teach. The game plan and scheme you can teach and if the player wants it bad enough...he’ll succeed.

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

April 28, 2019 at 04:02 pm

Donkeys?

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fthisJack's picture

April 28, 2019 at 08:55 am

i admit i get swept up in all the pre-draft hype that goes on and i get myself hooked on certain players and then when the picks are made i'm like WTF! last year i had my heart set on James and when he fell i was ecstatic until they announced the trade. i was all pissed off for a week but when you look back and see that we got Alexander and Savage minus 2 fourth rounders, i guess it isn't so bad!
this year it was Oliver, Bush, or Sweat/Burns and when they picked Gary i about spit my beer out.
the moral of the story is don't get your heart set on certain guys cause it will get broken every time. you are not the Packers GM and even though your picks are probably as good as theirs maybe even better....you are not in control! suck it up, Buttercup.

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IceBowl's picture

April 28, 2019 at 10:58 am

fthisJack,

You're right. And we do not know what they know. Or what they want.

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MarkinMadison's picture

April 28, 2019 at 09:17 am

I think the key to understanding the Gary pick is that this defense is just laid out differently. The edge players brought in this year (Smiths, Gary) are not the electric OLBs that we are used to seeing. They are not "pass rush first, run defense if needed" guys. These are all well-rounded, versatile players. Gary, more than anyone, has the physical traits to do almost anything on the field. (The mental part is what worries me.) This is what Pettine wants. We need to sit back and watch it unfold.

I hope that someone at WR and/or RB is a cap casualty soon. The Packers could use a productive veteran at either position.

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zeroluv's picture

April 28, 2019 at 10:22 pm

The mental part? Gary was the main reason Michigan had the #1 defense! Did you want the games? Teams doubled and tripled him which freed up Winovich and Bush. Gary was prepared for all of his games and even played hurt. He will be a stud for the Packers

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RCPackerFan's picture

April 28, 2019 at 09:55 am

To me in this offseason they had 3 goals in mind. Improve the OL, improve the pass rush, and improve the S position. Check, Check and Check.

They brought in Billy Turner, got Cole Madison back which they said was a pleasant surprise and drafted Jenkins who will compete for a starting OG spot.

They brought in The Smiths, and drafted Gary. Also they drafted Keke later. All of which will help the pass rush. Understanding what the Packers want to do in the front 7 is as important as who they picked up. They brought in 3 guys who are versatile. They can line up in multitple spots and create a lot of different looks which will give Pettine a ton of flexibility.

They brought in Amos and drafted Savage. Amos and Savage should create a really good pair.

The 2 offensive skill players they drafted I think both of those guys will help add to the offense this year. Jace could be that pass catching playmaking type of TE we have lacked. Williams is that outside zone runner who makes great cuts. He looks like he will be an ideal fit to the team.

This draft combined with the FA class has given us a lot more talent. With the new scheme and coaching staff we are going to be looking at a whole new team. Exciting things are coming to GB. Lets enjoy the ride!

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Archie's picture

April 28, 2019 at 10:27 am

Nice overview and perspective - couldn't agree more.

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Montana's picture

April 28, 2019 at 12:06 pm

RC...... I too share your optimism.

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RWood832's picture

April 28, 2019 at 04:02 pm

With Aaron Jones injury history, I think that Juice Williams will get the second most carries this year. Jamal is a great third down back but Juice will get lots of first and second down touches until he learns pass protection and improves his route running and catching. I think he is a great value pick for GB and I wish he and his family, especially his mom, a great future in GB. God speed...

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Freezn's picture

April 28, 2019 at 07:08 pm

I agree wit new offensive lineman to make some holes our running game should be great. Speed KILLS

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IceBowl's picture

April 28, 2019 at 12:19 pm

RCPackerFan,

Yep, looks like we are in for a ride.

I have been watching some of the URFA signings. Seems like a lot of teams are adding WR's, & RB's. Including the Pack.

I guess we weren't the only team to go light there.

Adding to the ride.

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dobber's picture

April 28, 2019 at 01:08 pm

I thought both positions (WR and RB) were particularly weak this year, especially at the top of the draft.

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

April 28, 2019 at 12:39 pm

Interesting how savage at number 21 is already listed as a starter day 1, but our #12 pick Rashan Gary may not even see the field very much as he will be used in more of a backup role. I get it about the SMITH brothers. I'm just saying.

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IceBowl's picture

April 28, 2019 at 01:01 pm

Doug,

It appears you can read depth charts, from your post, but what about understanding depth.

How many safeties do we have?

I wonder where a QB picked at 12 would be on the depth chart?

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

April 28, 2019 at 01:08 pm

As far as I know we only have 3 safeties Adrian Amos, Raven Green and now Darnell Savage.

Nobody knows what J. Jones is LB/ S?
and he may not be around very long.

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

April 28, 2019 at 01:10 pm

QB at #12 would be starting and A. Rodger's would be traded away for 1stdraft picks

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dobber's picture

April 28, 2019 at 01:11 pm

No, Doug. The cap would never support it.

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