Niners 13 Packers 10: Game Balls & Lame Calls

Crushing defeat leaves Packer fans to wonder what happens to this team now?

Yeah, go ahead. Blame it on special teams. They deserve it. They were terrible as usual. But there’s plenty of blame to go around for Green Bay’s loss to the 49ers. 

 

Even after the blocked punt fiasco, there was plenty of time for the Packers to win the game. Aaron Rodgers and the offense lost all poise, collapsed and imploded. Rodgers played his worst in the fourth quarter when he was needed most. The offensive line couldn’t block anybody. Any receiver not named Davante Adams was invisible. 

 

The defense? They played their hearts out all night. But on the final drive, third and seven on the 38 yard line, 1:03 left to play, they watched Deebo Samuel run right through them for nine yards and a backbreaking first down.  

 

The coaches? The Niners took a punch in the mouth for the first quarter and a half. Their coaches adjusted. They fixed the problems. Green Bay’s offense either didn’t know how to, or couldn’t adjust. They had no counter for the visitors. 

 

In the end, the weather, the crowd, the return of the injured players, the bye week rest, none of it mattered. They weren’t the better team. Not in any phase of the game. Every playoff loss is crushing, but this one is especially so. It ushers us all too suddenly into what figures to be one of the most significant off seasons in recent history. 

 

It feels like the end of something. 

 

 

GAME BALLS 

Rashan Gary 

You and I have known what a star he has become, because we have watched him all year. But this was his national audience breakout game. Two sacks, a TFL and three quarterback hits. He looked unstoppable. What a travesty to waste a performance like that. 

 

Aaron Jones 

170 total yards, including nine catches for 129. His 75 yard reception at the end of the half should have decided the game, but special teams erased that. With AJ Dillon hurt, it was Jones hammering through the rugged Niners defensive front that was the key to a 14 play drive that ended in a field goal to make it 10-3. It also should have iced the game. Special teams erased that as well. 

 

Davante Adams 

If this was Tae’s last game in the Green and Gold, he went out in style. Despite brutal double coverage all night, he latched on to nine passes, some of them in spectacular style, for 90 yards. Please come back Davante. The receiving corps without you looks pretty dire. 

 

 

LAME CALLS 

The Obvious, Special Teams 

Virtually all Packer fans have been saying all season that, sooner or later, this unit would cost us a game. We had long since given up the idea they might, one day, come up with a few big plays that would actually help the team win a game. We were willing to settle for special teams that Just wouldn’t lose it for us. Guess it was too much to ask. 

 

Offensive Failure 

So many questions. Were the other receivers just not good enough to get open? Did Rodgers just hold the ball too long? Did the staff just get out coached and out maneuvered? Was playing Billy Turner at left tackle instead of Yosh Nijman the wrong decision? Did the absence of AJ Dillon make that much difference? Sadly, we have much to debate and discuss during what will be a long off season. 

 

Defending the short middle 

The Niners didn’t do much on offense, but what did work for them was throwing the quick hitter over the short middle of the field. The Packers never adjusted to it, even though they had to know it was coming. The damage would have been even worse if George Kittle hadn’t dropped a wide open ball in the first quarter. 

 

 

AFTERTHOUGHTS 

Aaron Rodgers (on his future): “There are a lot of players whose futures are up in the air. I’m going to have some conversations with Brian (Gutekunst) in the next week or so and get some clarity......I don’t want to be part of a rebuild if I want to keep playing.” 

 

Matt LaFleur: “Obviously I didn’t do enough to get our team prepared to win a football game. Certainly, when we only score ten points offensively, I put that all on myself. I gotta be better than that.” 

 

 

THREE AND OUT 

•   Looking at game stats from this game only makes you sicker. The Packers lost a playoff game to a quarterback who finished with a rating of 57.1. The Niners won in spite of Jimmy Garoppolo. His soft, looping throws out into the flats were begging to be intercepted, but the defenders couldn’t get to them. 

 

•  Wonder if the pathetic performance of the Packer offense will have any influence on teams who are considering hiring offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett as their head coach.  

 

•  I am flashing back to Green Bay’s stunning loss in the playoffs to the New York Giants at Lambeau Field following the 2007 season. It was after that game that the Green Bay coaches and front office decided Brett Favre, good as he was, would not lead them to another Super Bowl, and decided to move on. Favre announced his retirement shortly after. Will the Packers now reach the same conclusion about Rodgers? 

 

 

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Ken Lass is a former Green Bay television sports anchor and 43 year media veteran, a lifelong Packers fan, and a shareholder.

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PackerWacky's picture

January 23, 2022 at 06:15 am

“Green Bay’s offense either didn’t know how to, or couldn’t adjust. They had no counter for the visitors.” I’ve been wondering about this lack of adjustments for some time. Both offense and defense show this, especially when playing a tough opponent. It’s a helpless feeling for fans and a characteristic you don’t see from truly great teams that overcome adversity.

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dobber's picture

January 23, 2022 at 06:25 am

I'll be the first to say that..,
1. Maybe Hackett getting a HC gig and replacing him with a different voice will be good for this team.
2. I hate when HCs decide they need to call their own plays.

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Kevin Carpenter's picture

January 23, 2022 at 07:45 am

I hate when coaches get interviewed for other gigs before playoff games. You've gotta wonder if that ever plays some part in it. Seriously, they can't wait another month to do it?

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Bitternotsour's picture

January 23, 2022 at 10:06 am

and yet, the packers can still be in the super bowl if only Mike Pence has enough courage.

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dblbogey's picture

January 23, 2022 at 10:31 am

Proud to be a Brandon supporter are ya? Keep your politics out of it.

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Bitternotsour's picture

January 23, 2022 at 03:47 pm

Take the L and move on.

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LambeauPlain's picture

January 23, 2022 at 10:37 am

Stupid comment. Go to the HuFf Post.

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 23, 2022 at 01:27 pm

How hard is it for the ILBs or the SS to roost on the inside hash and KEY Kittle? The 3rd and 7 collapse told the story. Know when to use a Timeout to settle your team and give the D a chance.

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Littlejim51's picture

January 23, 2022 at 10:51 pm

the NFC North is really that bad
The parity in the NFC north offers little competition to measure the packers worth
A winning record by the packers during the regular season sets up our hopes for success only to be embarrassed in the playoffs
Give me a coaching staff that is Supet Bowl tested and they we can talk about championships

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Shinesman's picture

January 24, 2022 at 03:42 am

It like watching young, good-looking MM 2.0. MLF has failed to adjust properly in almost every single loss in his tenure. Go back and watch the losses and the failure to adjust is maddening.

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dobber's picture

January 23, 2022 at 06:23 am

"Aaron Jones--His 75 yard reception at the end of the half should have decided the game"

A better-thrown ball or perhaps a better decision on where to go with it on the end of the run and that could've been the "Scotty Wilson/TB/end of half" hammer for the Packers to swing on the Niners. Instead, SF buckles down, gets a sack and then the blocked kick. Getting absolutely nothing out of that opportunity--in such a close game--was a killer.

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Spock's picture

January 23, 2022 at 06:36 am

dobber, I kept looking at the screen expecting AJ to hug the sideline so he could step out of bounds and not force the Packers to waste yet another timeout. His decision to head back into the main field of play was head scratching for an experienced RB like him. To me that was a game changing decision.

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dobber's picture

January 23, 2022 at 07:33 am

Watching that play again, I think you're right in that Jones seems to have lost himself on the field or felt that the defender chasing him was the only one to worry about. The far side safety did a tremendous job to run that play down and Jones seems surprised to see him there when he turns to the inside rather than heading for the pylon.

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PeteK's picture

January 23, 2022 at 09:52 am

That throw just turned him around completely and made him lose momentum. Initially, I thought it was a sure TD.

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Irish_Cheesehead's picture

January 23, 2022 at 05:36 pm

It’s was severely under thrown as was most of Rodgers’ throws the entire game. He certainly didn’t play like an MVP.

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Lphill's picture

January 23, 2022 at 06:27 am

Affirmative action hire Maurice Drayton cost us the season just like I knew he would 10 point swing caused by special teams .

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Oppy's picture

January 23, 2022 at 07:13 am

You don't seem to understand that there isn't an affirmative action hiring requirement or program for assistant coaching positions in the NFL.

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dobber's picture

January 23, 2022 at 07:18 am

Apparently there's a "linear-thinking, can't do any research or see the big picture, can't carry more than one discussion on at a time" charity program at CHTV and you-know-who is the poster child.

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egbertsouse's picture

January 23, 2022 at 07:57 am

He knows it. He’s just a red hat wearing, disgruntled racist cracker who gets his rocks off spouting this crap.

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Coldworld's picture

January 23, 2022 at 08:54 am

It is a shame that the point has to be drenched in irrelevant prejudice not only for non football reasons but because, in addition to factual error, it obscures the fact that the appointment should manifestly never have occurred.

It was obvious early in the season that Drayton was out of his depth. It was even tacitly admitted that he was having to learn what other teams do to emulate. What the hell made LaFleur think that was acceptable and then double down on retaining him? There is and never will be a viable excuse for the hire or Drayton’s survival to kill this of all seasons.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

January 23, 2022 at 08:49 am

Racists don't understand much. They just blame their problems on others.

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MikeDV34's picture

January 23, 2022 at 07:16 am

Please ban this racist.

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Coldworld's picture

January 23, 2022 at 09:26 am

Better to excoriate openly, something I think is being achieved well here. Perhaps then he and others will learn that such idiocy is neither smart nor acceptable. Banning does nothing but entrench existing positions.

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PeteK's picture

January 23, 2022 at 10:37 am

I'll take a shot at education. .In one lg example. The older people on this site who work for or know someone with a very solid Union job know that the hiring practices of the past were notoriously filled with nepotism ( the old saying, "it's who you know"). So if all workers are of one race, the minorities lose out on the chance at a very secure solid job. Don't dilute yourself into thinking that it's all about earning the job. Some of the worse workers are the people that nepotism has entitled. Affirmative action was meant to be temporary and is already being slowly phased out. Finally, it has proportionately benefited women far more than any others.

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Philarod's picture

January 23, 2022 at 08:24 am

You can rail against Drayton's coaching (it was apparently awful all year, especially yesterday) - that's fair game.
Your "affirmative active hire" comment does not belong here, and glad it was thoroughly downvoted.

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croatpackfan's picture

January 23, 2022 at 08:50 am

When you learn that skin colour does not have anything with knowledge, coaching capacities and success, this world will be one step closer to become better place for all, but first better place for you...

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PeteK's picture

January 23, 2022 at 09:18 am

The unity against racism presented here brought some happiness to an otherwise unhappy morning. Yes, Drayton is over his head, but an elementary blocking rule of inside out, especially when Niners put a quick defender inside, should have been a signal to Lancaster to put most of his blocking effort to the inside first. Also, Wirtel stands straight up and not surprisingly turns into a turnstile. He couldn't even do that correctly because if he got pancaked the defender would have been slowed down more so than a turnstile.

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Coldworld's picture

January 23, 2022 at 09:34 am

The irony is that Wirtel is a Drayton improvement that clearly wasn’t one at all. There really is no defending Drayton and that’s why the bigoted idiocy occluding the issue is even more harmful. Drayton, If decent, would have been a great personal story. Unfortunately, it is clear (and has been for months) that, on merit, he shouldn’t have been hired and then shouldn’t have been retained. The magnitude of that merit deficit is such that LaFleur can’t be absolved.

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cinpackback's picture

January 23, 2022 at 09:03 am

You might want to think about why you felt you needed to add that comment at the beginning of your sentence. Really. Think about it.

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cinpackback's picture

January 23, 2022 at 09:03 am

You might want to think about why you felt you needed to add that comment at the beginning of your sentence. Really. Think about it.

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Zapato's picture

January 23, 2022 at 09:18 am

I see you've simply cut and paste this comment from other Cheesehead TV articles. Are you simply trying to spread your racist views? People like you don't belong on this site!

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Todd's picture

January 23, 2022 at 09:18 am

Wow, SMH. Still continuing with that comment at the front of your posts from last night, huh?

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dblbogey's picture

January 23, 2022 at 10:36 am

All I know is Drayton was incompetent all year, there was no improvement during the year, and he should have been fired by week 10. That's all on MLF.

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Ferrari-Driver's picture

January 23, 2022 at 11:32 am

I prefer not to give negative votes and when I disagree with a comment strongly enough, I will express sentiments in a reply.

I strong dislike the negative connotations associated with the use of the word "Affirmative Action Hire" and especially when it is used with a fine man like Maurice Drayton. I can only imagine the anguish, frustration, and disappointment he has suffered this past year. Maurice comes from a wonderful family with a dad who was a retired military soldier and his mom was a school teacher to devoted her life to helping youngsters get a good start in life. I and likely everyone here expects Mr. Drayton will be replaced now that the season is over.

I fully believe Maurice Drayton has done the very best that he can to succeed in a highly competitive and talented coaching environment. He is likely just as disappointed and upset with the special teams failure as we, the fans, are and it's a shame he couldn't have met or exceeded everyone's expectations.

However, on this Cheesehead TV Packers forum, I hope we all can be respectful when we speak of others and to one another. Use of terms like "Affirmative Action Hire" used in the context by Lphill is not the type of language any of us should use. I hope that he will be more judicious in the words he uses here in the future.

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GeorgiaCheesehead's picture

January 23, 2022 at 03:04 pm

If you watch the replay of the blocked punt 41 H Black is just standing there not blocking anyone the LS gets abused and pushed straight backward. Totally unacceptable ST play

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Irish_Cheesehead's picture

January 23, 2022 at 05:37 pm

What’s your problem with his skin color? Keep your racist remarks to yourself. The guy sucks as a coach and should be shown the door. Has nothing to do with the color of his skin.

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Spock's picture

January 23, 2022 at 06:54 am

Only one disagreement with your article where you say, "They weren’t the better team. Not in any phase of the game". The Packers D played their best game of the year, giving up three (3!) points, the 49er offense never scored a TD, while the 49er D gave up a TD on the Packers' first drive. I'd say, on this day, the Packers had the better D. What a shame it was wasted.
Edit: make that six (6!) total points counting the last field goal. Still an amazing job!

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gmeyers1's picture

January 23, 2022 at 07:19 am

Lets not forget that the 49ers offense had short fields most of the night too.

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dobber's picture

January 23, 2022 at 01:26 pm

And the defense STILL only surrendered 6 points....

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Eighteen17's picture

January 23, 2022 at 08:18 am

They were NOT the better Defense. When the D was needed the most on the last drive they allowed the game winning field goal. The usual poor tackling and wide open middle.

Terrible D when need most

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Coldworld's picture

January 23, 2022 at 09:36 am

They gave up 3 points. SF gave up 10 (should have been 13). That’s some pretty damn good defense on our part.

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dobber's picture

January 23, 2022 at 01:20 pm

95+% of the time you're going to be disappointed if your defense has to make 10 points stand up in a league so skewed to fantasy football numbers.

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 23, 2022 at 01:39 pm

The repetition of History and the repetition of the same mistakes. By the fourth quarter the offense's failing to keep the Chains Moving and the Three and Outs puts an Undo Burden on the Defense. They were getting fatigued. On the other hand, the D had TWO people to KEY 100%, Deebo and Kittle. Communication breakdown?? Need better safeties.

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dobber's picture

January 23, 2022 at 07:08 am

"Wonder if the pathetic performance of the Packer offense will have any influence on teams who are considering hiring offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett as their head coach."

The HC should be, first and foremost, a leader. They need to navigate the locker room and personalities, they need to be advocating with management and in player procurement, they make the key calls on game day. If they take on more than that--e.g. a key role in game planning and play calling--what else suffers?

With that in mind, I don't think that this performance would likely sour too many on Hackett if they think highly of him. The NFL is a copycat league, and for a beleaguered franchise, they'll see a whole lotta regular season wins in GB the last couple years and a coaching staff that navigated injuries and a difficult QB situation to do it, and say, "we need to bring that to our locker room."

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 23, 2022 at 01:42 pm

He ran the J-ville offense during the infamous 2nd half collapse vs the Patriots. I do not sense an aggressive instinct

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Packerlifer's picture

January 23, 2022 at 07:15 am

The Packers over the last 20 years have gone from a club that wins championships to one that keeps finding ever new and different ways to lose postseason opportunities. Thank goodness they have those 13 titles and at least one Super Bowl in this century or we would be the Minnesota Vikings.

As bitter and even outrageous as last night's loss is it will not results in the collapse of the franchise. While sal-cap issues will force some changes the core of this team, or the better part of it, will likely be back next season.

After some time to decompress and milk attention from his decision Aaron Rodgers will be the qb again in 2022.

And the Packers will probably be what they have been for so long. A playoff team in search of a better ending to their postseason.

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cinpackback's picture

January 23, 2022 at 07:31 am

I don’t know if riding the ARod roller coaster is worth it- time to move on.

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cinpackback's picture

January 23, 2022 at 07:31 am

I don’t know if riding the ARod roller coaster is worth it- time to move on.

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cinpackback's picture

January 23, 2022 at 07:31 am

I don’t know if riding the ARod roller coaster is worth it- time to move on.

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HarryHodag's picture

January 23, 2022 at 11:26 am

In the last 20 years the Packers have won exactly one Super Bowl. They won one in the 1990's. Two in the 1960's. 9 other NFL championships since the 1920's.

So is it better to get into the playoffs and lose or continue to lose more than half of the regular season games and not make the playoffs?

The Packers are third in most wins overall since 1990, trailing only New England and by a small margin, Pittsburgh. It's like poker. No one wins the pot all the time but you just want the chance to win it.

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PeteK's picture

January 23, 2022 at 11:53 am

It's better to win and have a chance , but losing when in excellent position for a championship is very disappointing. We have taken the Rodgers train to the end. Another year under cap constraints will not improve us. We still have a young core and a partial rebuild with a talented GM in Gute could reap benefits.

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Buckywunder's picture

January 23, 2022 at 12:18 pm

A-Rod is as sure as gone — one season too late.

You can book it…

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Go_Pack1265's picture

January 23, 2022 at 12:23 pm

Very pragmatic, and spot on

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Duneslick's picture

January 23, 2022 at 12:30 pm

I just dont see them being as good next year. With their salary cap situation many starters will be leaving .including Adams. If adams stays they lose at least 2 more good players not to mention future cap liability. I just dont see them making that up in the draft picking 28 th. If rogers leaves it gets worse. I dont think love is a starting qb and there is now one else another huge need to fill

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Irish_Cheesehead's picture

January 23, 2022 at 05:42 pm

Time to dump Rodgers. I’m tired of a regular season MVP stats guy that does nothing but whine and then crumbles under the lights. Time to rebuild. Maybe we can get a QB that targets more than one receiver.

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pacman's picture

January 23, 2022 at 07:15 am

Ok, went to sleep late. Got up early. And I still haven't heard that they fired Drayton yet. Are they still thinking about it?

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Houndog's picture

January 23, 2022 at 08:32 am

Monday morning!
Remember, everything has to go through Murphy now, and he's still counting the receipts from the ticket sales so he can buy more real estate.
He'll get around to football later!

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 23, 2022 at 01:50 pm

Touche'

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AnotherLombardiPlease's picture

January 23, 2022 at 11:53 am

I think they're constructing a guillotine.

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dobber's picture

January 23, 2022 at 07:35 am

Watching the replay on NFL Network right now, and two things jump out at me...
1...lots of missed opportunities for this offense
2...Packers defense played their best game of the season and made important plays repeatedly, but a credible NFL QB puts up more than 6 points against them last night. Garoppolo is not a good QB.
3...SF defense played an outstanding game, too, and won that game for the Niners. They repeatedly got off the field on third down. After the Lewis fumble, they frustrated #12 the rest of the night and made the Packers grind for every inch on offense.
4....I can't count to two.

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mrtundra's picture

January 23, 2022 at 07:51 am

On that blocked FG: The ball was snapped behind Bojorquez. He had to reach around to catch the ball just to set it up for Crosby. In that time, the SF defender was able to make the block. A good snap would have ensured 3 more points for the Packers. Not all of our STs were bad. Amari Rodgers looked capable at returning kicks. He did not make any mistakes, doing that. With that being said, look for the Packers' front office to make a wholesale change to the STs unit. BTW, where was Moore on kick returns? Was he injured?

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packer132's picture

January 23, 2022 at 08:44 am

For some reason, Moore was healthy and on the practice squad. He was not called up for the game.

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dobber's picture

January 23, 2022 at 01:25 pm

You're right about the snap, but I don't think it made much difference. That defender didn't just get a small piece of the ball and tip it...he got all of it and it bounced right back to Bojo to prevent a return. He just blew through the protection. Even a clean snap would have been a challenge to get past the defender. That kick was doomed from the start.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

January 23, 2022 at 07:30 am

Rodger's needs a Lame Call.

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Coldworld's picture

January 23, 2022 at 08:57 am

So does LaFleur.

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dblbogey's picture

January 23, 2022 at 10:40 am

For not firing Drayton about 8 weeks ago when it was obvious he was incompetent.

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Irish_Cheesehead's picture

January 23, 2022 at 05:46 pm

Not sure how people think bringing in a new special teams coach mid-season would have changed anything. Look how changing the long snapper mid-season worked out. Drayton should not have been hired in the first place.

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Packers0808's picture

January 23, 2022 at 07:35 am

Prima Dona Rodgers took a flop! Makes you wonder if not on purpose as a way to get out of GB?

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dblbogey's picture

January 23, 2022 at 10:42 am

It's time to move on from Rodgers. Love can choke in the big games just as well as Rodgers does.

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dobber's picture

January 23, 2022 at 01:29 pm

If Rodgers goes, there will be 2 new QBs in GB next summer--a vet and a developmental pick--to compete for snaps. I wouldn't bank on Love being the guy, and if he is, he will likely have won the job outright.

In the end, what's happening in GB isn't working. Prolonging it doesn't make sense.

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Doug_In_Sandpoint's picture

January 23, 2022 at 07:44 am

Really expected more from the offense. The play calling was about as vanilla as the Detroit game where we were supposedly saving up new looks for the playoffs.

Along with AR’s uninspired play, Big Dog’s fumble, Dillon’s injury, and Deguara’s drop were killers.

In my best dream ever the Bears ask Mo Drayton to interview for the head coaching position and get in a bidding war with the Vikings.

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Doug_In_Sandpoint's picture

January 23, 2022 at 07:50 am

Speaking of special teams, did Mo Drayton trot out Dillon on a kickoff? I never saw how he got hurt and it might have been playing on special teams. Please tell me I missed something…

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Coldworld's picture

January 23, 2022 at 08:58 am

He was hurt on STs, yes.

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Doug_In_Sandpoint's picture

January 23, 2022 at 09:35 am

Thanks Coldworld. It was the only thing that made sense in the context of the game. I guess you need to play your best players on Special Teams when they suck so bad, but what a blow.

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Houndog's picture

January 23, 2022 at 07:54 am

I'm numb, the "D" plays it's best game of the year (maybe years) and we get our asses beat in embarrassing fashion. The offense sucked, totally sucked, Adams and Jones came to play, but who else falls into that category? The coaching staff never adjusted, to anything, offensively or defensively, they were out-coached by a long-shot.
I first got nervous when they announced the O-Line starters and the major re-shuffle, Nijman got you here and is likely the future, where was he? Why re-shuffle the entire line? It looked to me that the run blocking suffered all night (except maybe the first quarter), was the re-shuffle a part of that?
I was on the edge of my chair, farting, while the ST was shitting their pants on the field. It's really bad when Amari Rodgers is your best ST player in a game, but hell, we knew this was coming, the whole world knew! We've been lacking on special teams since Ron Wolf retired.
Now what? The dismantling of this team is likely not far off, and I for one do not see a QB-of-the-future on this roster for a major re-build. Rodgers, Adams and Cobb might all be gone, and Bahktiari, who knows?
The defense is young, and keeping it together should be a priority, they can start by re-signing Campbell and Douglas.

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 23, 2022 at 01:59 pm

It may be that the offense felt the same way when the Starting Five was announced during the TWO WEEK preparation for this Game. Turner was schooled last year at LT and LaFleur makes the same call last evening.
WTF ?

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barutanseijin's picture

January 23, 2022 at 06:40 pm

Really not impressed with MLF's ability to adjust, learn or adapt. Not sure what the problem is: lack of smarts, lack of effort, timidity or stubbornness. In any case, he doesn't get the job done when the going gets tough. I don't think he has what it takes to get a team through the playoffs. Time for someone new.

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iamiz's picture

January 23, 2022 at 10:28 pm

The other receivers came to play as well, but Rodgers only has eyes for Davante. Look at the tape making the rounds on the intrawebs of EQ and Lazard wide open on the play where Rodgers chucks it to a double-teamed 17. Reminds me of how Favre used to key on Sharpe to his detriment. After Sharpe got hurt and had to quit, Favre won 3 straight MVPs and got to 2 Superbowls.

I truly believe Rodgers is a better QB without Adams.

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Kevin Carpenter's picture

January 23, 2022 at 08:01 am

Just some interesting points to make here:

• Rodgers has never scored less than 20 points in a payoff game, until yesterday. The NFL record streak of 20 consecutive games finally came to an end.

• Rodgers hasn't lost a night game in over 3 years.

• The Packers were undefeated at home this year.

• The Packers were undefeated in games Adams had 100+ receiving yards in this year.

• The Packers hadn't lost a single game all year when they forced a turnover.

Every single one of those things was going for the Packers right from the start. Adams had 3 catches on the very first drive. After that, it seemed either no one was open or Rodgers spent too much time trying to pull 10 guys out of the box on every play by trying to find the big play downfield. Either way, what a disastrous end to the season after such an amazing year. Whether it be because of injuries, or the MVP curse, or the football gods themselves, GB simply couldn't find a way to get it done.

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stockholder's picture

January 23, 2022 at 08:05 am

"Curses! Foiled again!” If anybody looks at it differently. They have a limited intelligence. Where were the elaborate schemes? To blame Rodgers is just absurd. Nothing ended but the season. The packers beat themselves. The WRITING was on the WALL. And No hero was going to change it. The game Balls went to players in their prime. The Lame Calls- Failure. So my after thoughts are; Business as usual. Get Rodgers married. And Lady Luck will return. Yes MLF- you knew your team. But didn’t do anything to prevent this. So Gutey must. Could a name change be in order? After all they look like Dan Morino’s Dolphins. And I agree, I kept seeing 2007 Giants that whole game. But I’d rather win the division then put a bag over my head. So Gutey #1 priority decision, must be to protect Rodgers Legacy. His MVP year says he’s still got skills. And if the pie can be sliced right. Will win the division again next year.

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Coldworld's picture

January 23, 2022 at 09:07 am

I will happily put my hand up and own your definition of “limited intelligence “ if that is what is necessary to avoid sinking into denial.

What we saw last night was confirmation that LaFleur is not a head coach. Three years we have seen him make essentially the same mistakes and trot out the same mea culpas afterwards. Three years he’s been out coached by his opponents when it matters while learning nothing from the evidence proffered by his in game tactics.

Add to that his complete refusal to accept the obvious and deal with his Drayton mistake, at one point 2 months into the season it emerged that Drayton had to figure out how NFL teams blocked kicks per LaFleur. Followed by baseless reassurances and more if the same only to prove that he hasnt yet.

So what’s this got to do with Rodgers? Well STs and LaFleur may have been the major problem, but Rodgers is paid and expected to lift the team. When a guy takes up that much of one’s cap, he has to. But Rodgers was at best OK. He also repeated prior traits. His play in the second half was ineffective at best. Put simply he’s still a good QB but he’s no longer able to carry his team and continues to make questionable decisions under pressure.

This team can’t afford the roster we have. It’s not going to be stronger now or anytime soon while we pay Rodgers. When it counts Rodgers has twice (we were not good enough in 19) shown he can’t lift this roster when it matters. He’s great against bad or mediocre teams, but it’s no longer plausible to believe he can compensate for his cost in terms of the options to augment other positions.

No rational GM would mortgage the team to retain this player now. The die was rolled. Time has passed. If Rodgers is to win again, he needs to be on a loaded team like Brady found. Ironically he’d maybe be perfect for SF, bringing the year full circle. We don’t get better by not facing up to reality: we won’t have a chance of getting better unless we do. That means accepting the era is over. It is.

If we are smart, we should not expect LaFleur to be an asset either. He’s a very personable guy who brought a new system but he has shown he can’t actually coach or learn from his mistakes in the three years he’s been here. He’s also shown he can’t deal with his personnel in a way winning coaches must at times. Nice man, but not a head coach. I think we will come to see today as the beginning of the end. On the odds, we should get ahead and prompt the inevitable. LaFleur was an unproven gamble. In retrospect, a veteran might have ended up in a battle with Rodgers, but might have got the Lombardi before the personalities exploded.

Sad days, but the unpleasantness of the message doesn’t get less for ignoring it, rather it just festers and gets much more debilitating in the long term. The page turned last night for Rodgers, and the book began to close for LaFleur. To ignore that is to wallow in the none too healthy waters of the Nile.

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packerbackerjim's picture

January 23, 2022 at 09:39 am

There is not a QB alive or dead who is going to flourish in a game where the DL is relentless in applying pressure and making the OL look like a sieve—not Brady, Unitas, et Al. But fear not, AR will be leaving, the team and return yet to be determined. My preference would be Gute trades for Russell Wilson after any draft choices obtained for Rodgers are used to obtain Wilson. Say goodbye to the Smiths, Crosby, Bakh (by trade), Adams tagged, then traded. Resign Campbell, Tonyan. Not all these are my preference, just what I believe will happen.

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stockholder's picture

January 23, 2022 at 10:14 am

Absurd. You can't blame Rodgers! He had his faults. But we've seen the frustration when the OL doesn't Block. MLF should be fired because of the Sts. So pick up the pieces and try again. I Get Rodgers 46 mil. salary. I get Adams wants 27 mil. I get their 50 mil. over the cap next year. But Gutey must use the Franchise tag. He must change these Wrs. It will bring down the cap. Rodgers will give in to Gutey. Because any where he goes in the NFL, has problems. And this OL will get better and younger! You get what you pay for. Either you want a Qb who can win or you won't. Remember how the packers started? No Bahk, Smith, and a mixed up OL. It's on the wall for next year.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 23, 2022 at 10:36 am

29 passing attempts. 225 yards, 75 of those on one play to Jones. Take that out of the mix and he threw 28 times for 150 yards……that’s not even 5.0 yards per attempt

When you watch the All 22 video, you’re going to see open receivers ignored. 1 target for Lazard, Lewis, Cobb,and DeGuara. The ball was going to Jones or Adams.

219 of the the passing yards to Jones and Adams.

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stockholder's picture

January 23, 2022 at 10:34 am

RODGERS NEEDED TIME HE DIDN'T GET. YOU KNOW HE LOOKS AT MORE THEN 1 WR. He still protected the ball!

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Leatherhead's picture

January 23, 2022 at 10:38 am

Oh, he got time, just like all season. He took 5 sacks and at least three of them were on Rodgers for holding the ball.

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dblbogey's picture

January 23, 2022 at 10:46 am

Who lead us to 10 whole points? Who made numerous bad throws? Who has choked under real pressure many times before? Who looked cold, old and scared the entire 2nd half?

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PeteK's picture

January 23, 2022 at 11:05 am

Garoppolo was able to complete some short quick passes up the middle while under extreme pressure while dealing with injuries, and he is not a possible 3 x MVP. Those last few throws into double teams were pathetic. There were a few times that he had the ability to sprint out to the left to lengthen or gain yds and wrongly chose to stay in the pocket waiting for the big play while knowing full well that on this day time in the pocket was not to be had.

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Guam's picture

January 23, 2022 at 10:25 am

All fair points CW. I am not quite ready to throw MLF overboard yet as I am not sure how much of the offensive problems are LaFleur and how much are Rodgers. I think Rodgers' fascination with the deep ball and with Adams have hindered the offense MLF would prefer to run. Having Rodgers as QB1 is a two edged sword and I would like to see LaFleur without Rodgers to better judge his offensive scheme.

You are quite correct in indicting MLF for Drayton (an horrific hire that should have been corrected by mid-season), but fail to credit MLF for the Barry hire which proved worthwhile. MLF has also done poorly with in-game adjustments and after three years, that is more than worrisome.

I think the jury is still out on MLF (at least for me) despite his gaudy regular season record. However I will be happy to see Rodgers shown the door as his continued post season failures simply do not justify his very large salary. Time to rebuild around a young quarterback.

It should be an interesting offseason and I look forward to a very fresh start next year.

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stockholder's picture

January 23, 2022 at 10:39 am

??? I would like to see LaFleur without Rodgers to better judge his offensive scheme.??? = You did when Love played! He needs Rodgers. But a great point was brought up today. Coaches are fired every year with great ST coaches. MLF must grab one. Because enough is enough.

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Guam's picture

January 23, 2022 at 04:14 pm

Seriously stockholder??? Love played in KC with Rodgers' game plan because the COVID issue came up late in the week and Detroit was a meaningless game for everyone. Let's see what happens with ALL of next season. Then evaluate.

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 23, 2022 at 02:19 pm

Just like the Titans choose to run. They still need a valid # Two WR who gets open FAST to take the pressure off the Lead Dog. Nijman should have been the LT in a familiar spot and Turner at His spot. Footwork and flow.
LaFleur has been put on Notice. Do not do a Ted and extend him.

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ImFubared's picture

January 23, 2022 at 11:00 pm

None of us myself included, mentioned, the 9ers played a tough physical game the week before and we were all rested up with some key players returning so we should have had an easy time beating up a team that should have been cold and very tired. It was the pack that looked that way,

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fastmoving's picture

January 23, 2022 at 08:42 am

If AR had just asked his also really smart friend Joe Rogan for advice, he would have thrown 15TD and the game would have been over after the first quarter........

Thanks god for Ivermectin

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Coldworld's picture

January 23, 2022 at 09:01 am

Did we really need to go there? There’s enough ordure to wade through in plain sight after last night.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 23, 2022 at 10:39 am

Yes, we should mock people who make medical decisions we don’t like. That’s the American Spirit!

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dblbogey's picture

January 23, 2022 at 10:51 am

Eff off, go to CNN if you want to spew your left wing ideology. Tell us again how wonderfully effective the vaccines and masks are.

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Rick5952's picture

January 23, 2022 at 12:26 pm

STUPID

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 23, 2022 at 02:23 pm

That's why there is a 24/7 security detail posted at the Local Feed Store. The lunatics are desperate to get get
Trigger's de-worming meds.

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Shinesman's picture

January 24, 2022 at 03:51 am

I wish there was a button for "stupidest comment"

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Philarod's picture

January 23, 2022 at 09:06 am

Game:.Defense played quite well, especially Gary. Also, kudos to Amos for the pick and Clark for his usual stout play.
Exceptions: Letting Deebo make the first down on 3rd and 7 and not coming up with one or two more Jimmy G floaters. And Kittle's fortunate-for-us drop probably prevented a TD.

Aaron Jones (in hindsight) probably could have stayed down the sidelines on that big play. If he didn't score, it looked as if he could have forced them to knock him out of bounds, probably within the 10. Still he played quite well. Davante has one sensational catch. He's great, but doesn't have that killer burst. Still, kudos overall.

Lame: Obviously, the "Dreadful Teams.". Bojo actually had two very good pints and Amari was competent, but. Yes, the O laid an egg, but in a defensive struggle, you can't, essentially, spot them 10 points.

Lame: Playcalling, Big Dog's fumble (though it shouldn't have depressed the offense, and Josiah's drop.

Honestly, the Pack should have found a way to win, and a lot falls on MLF, AR and the O. But what did they bring last night outside of QB? A mediocre Oline, a good RB (RB2 left early), a great WR who has everything but blazing speed, two other utilitarian receivers who were either blocking, blanketed or ignored last night, and an over-the-hill, beloved TE who is a great blocker and a second TE still learning how to play. So yeah, Rodgers was far from great, and this is the best one-game playoff D he's had, but ...

Oh, per TE, during the Rodgers Era (over now?), he had an erratic Finley, years of slop, 6 games with a decent Jared Cook who looked like Gronk by comparison to what they had, and one big play season from Tonyan. Collectively, probably the worst TE play of any good offense over that stretch.

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PeteK's picture

January 23, 2022 at 11:25 am

One difference: Kittle drops a big pass, they go to him later-- Dequara drops a big pass and becomes invisible. I know it's an unfair comparison as Kittle is very good, but at least try. Also, how is a 6' 5" WR only targeted ONCE. Once it became a grind an injured Garoppolo stayed focused, but Rodgers seemed complacent.

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Philarod's picture

January 23, 2022 at 12:34 pm

True - Kittles is a stud...did you see his catch on the sideline on the next ball that came his way?
I know that in the postgame presser, Rodgers blamed himself for a couple throws and a couple bad decisions. I'm not sure why nothing came Cobb's way, and very little to Lazard. Josiah just does not seem ready at all, though. He may...may...be good at some point.

But let's face it, it sucks that Tonyan went down, and as great a coach as Stenavich, that the Oline was patchwork and overmatched. And for years, though we tried with Graham (mediocre here) and Bennett (who never really showed up) our TEs have stunk - other than Tonyan last year and 5 or 6 games from Jared Cook, including a catch and foot drag of one of the greatest throws in NFl history.

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 23, 2022 at 02:30 pm

There should have been a beaucoup package of plays for Lazard as they KNEW the DBl and Combo coverage defense was going to be laid on Adams. TEs in the flats on quick shots. The pass to Deguara low and away, but he has to go to the ground and catch it. The lack of a TE was a snag in their planning, but Dafney was not used in the short game. I like WRs who catch best and block secondly.

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4thand1's picture

January 23, 2022 at 08:49 am

No apologies?!!? AR owes Packer nation an apology. Maybe if he spent more time on the TEAM instead of his own frail ego, he'd win a big game. FUCKIN LAME.

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Packers0808's picture

January 23, 2022 at 08:54 am

Have a feeling after a year and can't play bet Bak never plays a down again in the NFL. Knee is more serious than most think!

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Packers0808's picture

January 23, 2022 at 08:57 am

delete

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stockholder's picture

January 23, 2022 at 10:25 am

Yep. And so is Z. Smith back. The NFL draft has very strong Pass rushers this draft. And has very good depth at Wr. Fastest guy wins with Gute. Can't teach slow.

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dobber's picture

January 23, 2022 at 01:37 pm

Clearly if Bakh is still having issues, he's likely headed for some more work on that knee, but it shouldn't be career ending--at least, not for an OL.

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Packers0808's picture

January 23, 2022 at 09:00 am

delete

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Packers0808's picture

January 23, 2022 at 09:02 am

delete

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egbertsouse's picture

January 23, 2022 at 09:09 am

Just heard that the Packers only had 10 men on the field for the last FG by the Niners. I hope the next ST coach can count to 11.

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dobber's picture

January 23, 2022 at 01:38 pm

I think Nigel Tufnel is available...

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Coldworld's picture

January 23, 2022 at 03:30 pm

That’s Heavy Duty right there Dobber

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Roadrunner23's picture

January 23, 2022 at 09:10 am

Goodbye 👋
*Rodgers and his off-season drama
*Adams get your gold someplace else
Z thanks for nothing this season
Bakhtiari and thanks for nothing season, pussy
Cobb thanks for all your help last night, it’s over
Crosby you stayed one year too long
Mo Drayton you are a pathetic coach, enjoy coaching grade school

MLF you got bitch slapped and outcoached in the playoffs once again

BLOW IT UP BOYS!

LET THE REBUILD BEGIN

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badaxed's picture

January 23, 2022 at 09:25 am

The R.A.T.S. (Royal-Athletes-Thinking-Superbowl) will be leaving the sinking ship.

(The salary cap dilemma has punched a big hole in the Packers ship).

Only so many lifeboats available.

So unless the packers ship settles on mt Ararat as the flood waters recede, that ship will not sail for a long time......... unless there are some very good carpenters who can work under water.

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ImFubared's picture

January 23, 2022 at 10:55 pm

Love it. Ya Bakhtiari is pretty much done. Just like Beluga, you tear that knee up and your done. Kevin King was kept on because he came cheap with a one year show me deal. Again lets save some fucking money by not obtaining any real players in free agency.
Cobb, go find a new team. Adams you deserve the money, hit the door running and good luck. Crosby is a head case and yes, played two years too many but again he was cheap.
Mo Drayton should have been gone mid season and they were afraid to fire an affirmative action pick. Ya how well did that plan work

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badaxed's picture

January 23, 2022 at 09:11 am

From usa today "The Packers were also embarrassed by Deebo Samuel’s 45-yard kick return in which Samuel poleaxed cornerback Kevin King, but it wasn’t about any one play. The Packers came into this game knowing that their special teams were a potentially fatal flaw, and that’s exactly how it played out.

Another Kevin King fail. A poor decision to put this player on the field in any position of responsibility. it seem like all he does is give up big plays. time to cut KIng and get a new special teams coach. being last in the NFL is pathetic.

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Coldworld's picture

January 23, 2022 at 09:40 am

King is out of contract as of last night.

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barutanseijin's picture

January 23, 2022 at 06:56 pm

Pole-axed or not, King stopped the return. No one else touched 19. Terrible coverage, negligent coaching from MLF and a terrible kick from Crosby.

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Handsback's picture

January 23, 2022 at 10:06 am

Philarod said it best, Green Bay should have found a way to win. Hasn’t that been the issue with Rodgers his whole career in the post season? Yeah sometimes they weren’t capable, but not this year or last. Unlike the young Bengal QB, Rodgers doesn’t seem to be able to use his skills and carry the day in the big games. He did it once, but maybe it was a fluke and this is his fallback position when he gets pressured.

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Philarod's picture

January 23, 2022 at 10:37 am

Thanks for the shout-out, and Rodgers did not play well enough yesterday, but in general, I think he's been an extremely good playoff QB, in addition to dragging mediocre teams to the playoffs in the first place.

Rodgers and Brady - I still think - are the two greatest QBs of the SB Era. Perhaps, Brady gives his teams that extra layer of belief...he's remarkable, but their numbers don't lie. Coming into this year, Rodgers's passer rating (I don't know about QBR, which I don't care for) is much higher than Brady's and his teams score more ppg. He also throws fewer picks, so he makes it easier for the D.

Yesterday, there wasn't any magic, but it was a defensive battle in those conditions and you just can't spot a team 10 poi nts on Special Teams. If he played great, they would have won, but he wasn't bad yesterday given what he had to work with: an overmatched Oline, one stud RB out, but Jones was very good, no TE (a fumble and a big drop) and not sure what he had at WR outside of Adams.

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Handsback's picture

January 23, 2022 at 01:47 pm

QB ratings during the regular season show you the skill level of the players. Advancing a team in the playoffs shows you the grit and determination. I'm wondering, now when it looks like Rodgers is done, if Rodgers isn't an outdoor QB. Playing in GB during the winter may not be what fits his capabilities. I mean they won a SB by destroying a team in the dome, Atlanta, beating the Eagle and Bears in away games but not by that much and then the SB in a dome.
I don't really know nor care at this point. Rodger's time in Green Bay wasn't a fart in the wind, but rather a large burp.

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PackerWacky's picture

January 23, 2022 at 10:26 am

What happened to our ability to scheme people open?

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Shinesman's picture

January 24, 2022 at 03:55 am

People watch pedestrian plays work during the regular season against crappy teams and think MLF is some genius. Reality is that he is about as average as they come. His playcalling in the biggest games has been lackluster, unimaginative, and overall just poor.

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croatpackfan's picture

January 23, 2022 at 10:36 am

If you started at the end (packers end) of the last season, you'll get HOF QB who did not see anybody else on the field except Davante Adams. Do not misunderstand me - Davante Adams is the best WR in the world, but nobody can do everything alone playing team sport. That is why there is 11 on 11 on the football field.

Fear is huge problem for a lot people. Because of fear we are doing things that, when we look back we can not believe we did those stupid decisions and stupid acts. It does not matter if you are highly intelligent and “clever” guy, or that you knows reasons for some of the decisions made by others (beloved ones, your bosses, your friends, etc), if you let fear to overcome you, you’ll do a lot of stupid things.

Fear overwhelm Aaron Rodgers. First he tried to rationalize decision made by Packers management - “I know they need to take care of the franchise future, I know this is business decision....” was first publicly said reaction for drafting QB in the 1st round. But the Ego and narcissism are ugly beasts. They whispered: hey they should asked or tell you of their intentions, you are taking this franchise on your shoulders. They want to supersede you with younger one. They are doing things behind your back and that is disrespectful.

And after the initial statement how he understand the decision Packers made by drafting QB in the 1st round, the hell was open. After months of silence and AR came to all the Packers teams activities, acting normal and it looks like he was not bothered by the pick. But, that season (2020) showed more patient AR than he was a year ago. Many fans (me included) though that he finally accepted MLF system and started to play much more through system, with patience and precise. Result of that behaviour was another MVP season, 1st seed and convincing victory over LAR in the divisional round.

Than Bucs, with GOAT QB came to the Lambeau to play NFCCG. Packers were more on less in the game and the adjustment was made during the half time. Packers D started to win possessions and had 3 TO in the row, while Packers trailed 8 points behind the Bucs.

And than, last series of the game started and Packers came to 1st and goal. We do not know what was play calling sent to AR and I assume we will never know. But, fear grew up to such level, that AR decided to go exclusively to Davante Adams, despite he was in double or triple coverage. On 4th and goal, MLF decided to kick FG and AR felt betrayed and that was the last nail removed from the dam of overwhelming fear. He was furious and he felt embarrassed.

While I can understand MLF decision, as he was trying to prevent overtime, many was attacking him for that. Rational explanation was: with FG we were trailing 5 points and our D playing well enough to produce 3 TO, so we have very good chances to take the ball back and score winning TD before the end of the game. What almost happened (only pass interference call through whole game was called on 3 and long with enough time left). If the referee did not makethat call, even if you’ll started inside your 5 yards line, you have good chances. And the 4th unsuccessful try from 1st and goal will produce similar result, but with necessity to score TD and 2 point conversion to go to overtime.

That FG produced even stronger silence from AR. He was refusing any questions and any interview offered to him through off season. Until he said to one reporter that he will never ever play again for Packers. That statement broke in the public in the eve of the 1st round of the 2021 draft.

I will not continue to describing what all of you knows, just to tell you that AR concluded how he has best chances to win SB through Packers strong roster in 2021 season and that the best option is to play another season for Packers, and after season finale he will make the decision how he will proceed further (“in discussion with personnel department!”).

This whole season was only he and his need and his greatness. If you do not see that, I can not help you.

He said that this last defeat hurts a lot. I assume he was truthful with that part of his statement, but it does not hurt him for the team, it hurts him because once again he was not able to jump over the rainbow, and that is (he knows that) because he chokes when there is the utmost importance for him to show the greatness. His need to prove that to himself (first to himself) is so huge that fear rules him.

Father time started to affect his playing abilities (as the injuries he sustained in the past), and, as highly intelligent person, he knows that. Another problem to inflate the fear he is fighting with in side himself. And that fear is why he is started to thinking about the retirement. He is not sure if he will be able to win another SB with Packers or any other team.

Aaron Rodgers will not be back to the Packers, as he clearly stated that he has no interest to participate in the rebuilding of the roster. So, Packers can cripple franchise for at least decade if they push the money in the future, by reconstructing many contracts of the players need to be kept on the roster for AR to stay. Or Packers can trade him, or he can retire and left “his beloved franchise” without ransom they can get for him in the trade.

I am now completely sure that Vic Ketchman gave very good advice, or tip:
1.Trade AR as soon as possible and start the rebuilding;
2.MLF is not acting like HC, but like cheerleader and he has to change that, otherwise he will lost the locker room;
3.Jordan Love can be average QB, not great, because he is to gentle (physically);
4.Packers will search for new QB and they will find one soon, but it will take few years;
5.As soon you start rebuilding, your rebuilding will be shorter.

Sorry for the novel, but I needed to tell you this. You may like or not what I saw, but it is, how it is.

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PeteK's picture

January 23, 2022 at 12:09 pm

We did see one definite thing, our defense does not need a rebuild and can improve with another solid lineman.

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dobber's picture

January 23, 2022 at 01:39 pm

If the D can find consistency, they're the reason why the next iterations of the Packers won't be 4 and 5-win bombs.

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Philarod's picture

January 23, 2022 at 06:07 pm

Kudos for putting a lot of thought into your post!

I admit to being a huge Rodgers fan (yes, still.) but while he can be stubborn and arrogant, I don't think that this was fear or egotism at work. Did he play great? No. Can this team ever win a postseason game when he isn't close to perfect? No, not really.

Some refutations:
Rodgers is notorious for being calm under pressure. Think of - in modern NFL history - some of the greatest throws in big situations in NFL history, and Rodgers has lots of them. At least two cannon shots to Jennings versus the Steelers; the insane throw (nobody else can design or execute that) throw to Cook to set up Mason's FG versus Dallas; and two impossible throws to Jeff (Stinkin') Janis versus Arizona. I won't even mention the perfectly measured Hail Mary before the half versus the NYG.

The "GOAT" Brady simply, did not outplay Rodgers last year in the NFCC. And actually, it's not all about stats, but why is Rodgers career passer rating much better than Brady's and his teams (almost all flawed) outscored Brady's in PPG. I believe that still holds true. And he throws fewer INTs per game to help the D.

I can't spin it that Rodgers played very well last night. But these were brutal conditions and in a defensive battle, you just can't be -10 on special teams. I fault Rodgers for apparently not getting Lazard or Cobb involved. I'm not sure if he blatantly missed Lazard on that last 50/50 to Davante. Can't tell the timing of when he broke open.

But, let's face it. What did The Pack bring to that game, other than homefield. No Tight end - an absolute negative there. One good RB, but no Dillon for a long stretch. A patchwork Oline that was overmatched. A terrific, polished WR in Davante but he's not a burner or a huge target. And a bunch of 3s and 4s without MVS;s speed last night.

Rodgers can be arrogant, but this "narcissist" always praises his teammates and knows their stories -- in longer interviews, he always mentions them and his connection with them, Not just Davante and Bakh or "Cobby". Many on both sides of the ball.

All this said, I get the disappointment, but I just have a different read on some things. This all sucks, of course. And if the Pack (or Rodgers) decides to go in a different direction, so be it. I still say that Rodgers (counting the postseason) has been the best QB I've ever seen in essentially the whole SB Era. Including Brady, Montana, Elway, Peyton, Marini, etc.

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croatpackfan's picture

January 24, 2022 at 04:18 am

Thanks you for your comment.

I have to disagree with some of your claims and I have to agree with more of them.

I never said that Aaron Rodgers does not posses clear mind under the pressure, but that pressure is pressure inside the game, the game which are not so important in HIS eyes. Some season loses or some pre-season games are not so important in the eyes of Aaron Rodgers.

But, when you go through past seasons with play-off, you can see that in the most important game to go to NFCCG was never won because of Aaron Rodgers, but because D played on high level. In the NFCCG 2010 vs Bears, Packers offense scored 14 points, as Bears. Win was secured by INT returned for TD by BJ Raji, so defense scored winning TD, not offense (Aaron Rodgers). After 15-1 next season, they lost divisional game vs Giants and Aaron Rodgers played terrible, as complete offense (20-37). People claimed that D lost that game, but D was terrible through whole season and Packers set NFL record by number of points in one season. Where was that offense in this very important game for Aaron Rodgers. He already saw himself as the first QB after long time who won back to back SB. Anxiety rised - "am I good enough to achieve that greatness". And we all knows that anxiety produce fear, and fear grows every minutes when you need to perform to finally convince others that you are the GOAT, as you believe of yourself.

Than it was next season, win over pathetic Vikings and formidable Niners just shut him down and he scored few points just to make the defeat less persuasive. Another blow to his ambitions and his hopes. And the need to prove his GOAT status.

Season 2013 - we all knows it was first collarbone fracture year. Wild card game was at Lambeau in very harsh conditions and it was again Niners. That loss I can not put on him, because it was game that both team could win and the difference was just one dropped ITN by Mycah Hyde (today all pro safety). So, result 20-23 tells us that it was the play-off game with very low total points, the lowest in AR era, till the last game.

Season 2014 - they won Divisional round vs Dallas (controversy regarding that catch/no catch) and travelled to Seattle. Packers D made 6 TO and offense lead by Aaron Rodgers scored only pathetic 16 points in the first half (3-16) and produced total 6 points in the second half. Aaron Rodgers did not even look towards Sherman, despite he played heavy injured at least last 20 minutes of the game. Yeah, people blamed ST for 2 crucial mistakes, but where was offense and Aaron Rodgers during the game?

Season 2015 - they won Wild card game against pathetic Washington and have to go to Arizona. They lost again in divisional round, but that is the only play-off loss in Aaron Rodgers era I will not put on his shoulder. Team was playing with 2nd and 3rd stringer and they brought the game in OT with one of the candidates to win SB. And, that game does not contain any trace of anxiety as he knew that nobody would talk about his possible failure, but how team was decimated by injuries (similar as 2013).

Season 2016 - they reached NFCCG and had to play against Falcons who were, well the best team in NFC that season. This game was similar to 2015 season. But, lot of injuries not on offense, but on defensive side of the ball. Packers was overmatched, and Aaron did not play well, but, again, he had excuse...

Season 2017 and 2018 was losing season, but that was seasons Aaron played with intention to produce releasing of Mike McCarthy. Regarding that I will tell you that I had nothing against that change made by Packers, because MIke McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers are little bit similar. They are arrogant and understand each other well. Mike McCarthy would make huge thing for NFL if he left the idea to be HC, and open QB school for young QBs. I really believe he has knowledge and method how to teach QB to elevate their capabilities. School were young (college or NFL) QBs can improve their skills and play better football. It was time to change Mike McCarthy. And, finally, that was ugly method that produce few good things - TT, who was wonderful GM, but old fashioned one retired soon after 2017 season.

And new era of NFCCG games (and the last DRG) show same tendencies how AR plays in the important games of the post-season. only team he was afraid of was Niners, and he got them (croatian proverb: Fear rarely cheat, while that is hope's vocation!).

" What did The Pack bring to that game, other than homefield."
They brought the best play-off D. D allowed only 13 points to the opponent, and would allowed only 6, if there was not ST mistakes.

"Rodgers can be arrogant, but this "narcissist" always praises his teammates and knows their stories - ..."
Well I also claim that Aaron Rodgers is highly intelligent. What would highly intelligent person do to make good picture of himself. Publicly he will "take blame" for bad things, he will "praise" his teammates, listening the pulse of the fans he would "point out that player, or this player" and it looks pretty convincing. Also, you have to know that narcissist very often do things that will please surroundings and involved people, as he understand that he will get gain from that, and, maybe more important, it will rise the level of his picture of himself he have ("oh. my God, how beautiful, clever, wise, capable person I am!").

This is my observation why my picture of Aaron Rodgers is how it is. I also believe that Mike McCarthy handled AR better than MLF (because, he is arrogant and knows to recognize arrogance of others), but in favor of that estimation we have to include age and status of AR during the each of HCs tenure.

Thank you for good discussion we have, and I would like to hear your comments on my reply, if you have any, or you have contra-arguments.

Thank you!

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Swisch's picture

January 23, 2022 at 10:39 am

In this frigid and windy game, Jimmy G was having so much trouble passing to the sidelines, yet we allowed him to throw easier passes over the middle again and again and again.
At the same time, it seemed the Packers threw over the middle less and less and less, especially the passes that are shorter and easier in frigid and windy weather.

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Packers0808's picture

January 23, 2022 at 10:57 am

We all thought Rodgers had a shot, but we all thought that earlier in the season as well!

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Packers0808's picture

January 23, 2022 at 10:57 am

We all thought Rodgers had a shot, but we all thought that earlier in the season as well!

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Packers0808's picture

January 23, 2022 at 10:58 am

We all thought Rodgers had a shot, but we all thought that earlier in the season as well!

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Packers0808's picture

January 23, 2022 at 10:58 am

We all thought Rodgers had a shot, but we all thought that earlier in the season as well!

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Packers0808's picture

January 23, 2022 at 10:58 am

We all thought Rodgers had a shot, but we all thought that earlier in the season as well!

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PeteK's picture

January 23, 2022 at 12:19 pm

Hahaha, thanks , I needed that.

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JohnnyLogan's picture

January 23, 2022 at 11:06 am

Why is Gute so seldom mentioned here as having failed? He had some success in finding Campbell and Douglas, but damn, the most glaring hole the Packers have had for the last few years was at the #2 receiver and he never even looked that way.

I wrote this five days ago and it's been so obvious that I've written something similar numerous times over the past few years.

"The need for a #2 receiver to take the pressure off of Adams is still there. OBJ was the perfect fit, had huge upside, was a once-dominant receiver, relatively cheap, and wanted to play for the Packers. He's been nothing short of great for the Rams. Six TDs since he arrived. Kupp was blanketed last night so Stafford went to OBJ for big plays. He's far and away better than MVS or Lazard. I honestly couldn't believe Gute didn't sign him, despite the possible cap implications. There was a way I'm sure. Last year in the 4th quarter of the championship game Rodgers became fixated on Adams and it proved to be fatal. What do you think he'll do this year with the game on the line, look for MVS or Lazard?"

I received many thumbs down because everyone was deluding themselves that MVS and Lazard were legit receivers. Two guys who average 2 receptions a game. Now all will say "but Lazard was open on the play where Rodgers threw the Hail Mary to Adams." Doesn't matter. Rodger's tunnel vision for Adams is a direct result of him believing, even before the play begins, that only Adams will be open.

Rodgers, LaFleur, and Gute were all exposed yesterday for their obvious flaws. Rodgers looked shriveled, not a commanding presence, a leader. He looked scared. LaFleur and his ridiculous cheerleading on the sideline made him look like a H.S. coach or a guy looking for a prayer, "Help me, Packer fans. Help!" Add in Gute, who like Thompson, can't recognize team weaknesses and misjudges players' abilities. Bringing back Kevin King was the first clue.

I wouldn't be sorry to see all three go. That's a big overreaction, I know, but after so many playoff losses I feel like overreacting to one of the ugliest and most embarrassing of the lot.

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PeteK's picture

January 23, 2022 at 12:18 pm

Gute's positives far outweigh his negatives. Good #2 WR costs cap money which we did not have. Cobb ( injury prone after he left Pack) was solid at times ( Rodgers mistake not Gute), but the injury and age probably hampered him yesterday.

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 23, 2022 at 02:45 pm

A Draftee the past couple of years on a rookie deal would not be a CAP issue.

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coolhand's picture

January 23, 2022 at 03:27 pm

A solid #2 wouldn't matter. ARod would ignore him and only throw to Adams anyway. You drop 1 pass and 12 ignores you for the rest of the game. 12 was throwing low all night and putting the receivers in tough positions. And then, with the game on the line and a 3rd and 5 he throws a bomb to a double teamed Adams. He never looked at anyone else.

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Shinesman's picture

January 24, 2022 at 04:04 am

I said the same thing with OBJ. They low-balled the hell out of him and now we see it was a terrible decision. On sites like this you cant directly call out huge mistakes or fans give you "thumbs down." He clearly would have made a difference and is loads better than anyone we have not named Davante Adams. They had the cap room, and they knew they were going to blow it up this off-season anyways. Hell, if they wouldnt have paid Kevin King like 6 million to suck, after sucking his entire career, we have OBJ.

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jhtobias's picture

January 23, 2022 at 11:17 am

This was always going to be A one and done yr and they failed.

Why would rodgers stick around or the organization bankrupt themselves cap wisefor another playoff chocke?

All teams rebuild green bay is no different.

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ImFubared's picture

January 23, 2022 at 10:48 pm

One simple reason, there are people who put of going to the dentist because they cant handle the pain. Hey if you win season games and the fans are happy so is eveyone in the org. They fear not having that winning team and thus are putting off the pain.

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JohnnyLogan's picture

January 23, 2022 at 11:18 am

This from David Maraniss, a Pulitzer Prize winning author:

"Conflicted thoughts of lifelong Packers fan. Deserved to lose. Special teams embarrassing. Defense excellent. Offense lame. Rodgers had dazed look not seen since last playoffs. It's tiresome rooting for a team whose talented qb is a monomaniacal dangerous know-it-all fool. Enuf."

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Swisch's picture

January 23, 2022 at 02:40 pm

Not only LaFleur but also Rodgers failed to figure out the 49ers defense.
After the first brilliant drive of the game for a touchdown, there was frustratingly so very little to cheer for on offense afterward.
It seems LaFleur/Rodgers is as poor as McCarthy/Rodgers as far as making in-game adjustments against tough defenses.
The common denominator is Rodgers, who for all of his pretensions to be a mastermind at the line of scrimmage, seems rather unimpressive after all these years.
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Now a lot of this -- as the Cowboys may attest -- seems to be a tough, perhaps elite, 49ers defense.
Also, the weather was harsh for throwing the football; and a huge weapon in Dillon was knocked out of the game (while for some reason playing on special teams, another travesty of that unit); plus, withholding Yosh from the starting lineup, as a heretofore key piece of our offensive, line is a troublesome mystery.
Still, Rodgers gets a mountain of money each season to be a superior quarterback, yet has come up short over and over and over again. He's supposed to be able to find way to victory in the biggest of games more often than not.
I used to give Rodgers more of the benefit of the doubt as far as taking the Packers about as far as they could go, but his melodrama of the off-season has me reassessing.
It may be over-the-top to call Rodgers "a monomaniacal dangerous know-it-all fool," but it does seem fair to at least wonder if he is arrogant and delusional in his self-importance -- especially for a guy with only one Super Bowl ring from so very long ago.
We do know that he was ready to throw away this season before it even got started, and for reasons that seem rather obscure.
Also, the contradiction between his stance on not playing in the preseason but seeming to insist on playing in a meaningless game against the Lions is yet unexplained to me in any sense close to convincing.
His seeming lack of loyalty to Mike McCarthy and lack of appreciation for Matt LaFleur is another matter for earnest discussion.
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There may be much more to analyze in the long career of Rodgers with the Packers, and it will likely be done in retrospect as he moves on to another team or retirement.
It seems good perspective to appreciate the many contributions Rodgers made to the Packers in consistently fielding a top team in the NFL.
At the same time, it's fair to wonder if ego got in the way of him reaching his full potential, to the detriment of the Packers in so many dismal disappointments of the playoffs.
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I'm still a big fan of Rodgers, but he is seemingly so high maintenance that it's time for him to move on from the Packers. It will be a relief to me to be rid of the continual intrigues that seemingly surround him.
May he go on to prosper as a player and a person, but may the Packers beat his team should they meet in the future.
I'm sad for Rodgers and the Packers and us fans that things didn't end better, but as of now we can only try to improve the future.
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P.S. I haven't seen or heard much, if anything, specific about what went wrong with the Packers offense last night -- such as what the offense could have done differently to get better results.
I'm craving this kind of review as a kind of closure on such a bummer of a game.
For example, in weather conditions that made it so perilous to pass to the sidelines, why did the 49ers seem to complete easier passes over the middle but not the Packers?
Indeed, how much of the woe is due to the Packers offense, and how much to the 49ers defense -- and why?

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 23, 2022 at 02:50 pm

49r safeties are solid and the ILBs hit. They played the short areas and the Hook zones. They begged the Pack to throw deep because they realized w/out MVS there was no deep Threat. They should have used Jones even More on the wheel routes and screen games. Why does this team not know how to run a draw play to school a pass rush? LaFluer is heading into Marty Schottenheimer territory.

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13TimeChamps's picture

January 23, 2022 at 03:03 pm

Seriously....you need "closure"? It's a football game, not a life altering event.

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Swisch's picture

January 23, 2022 at 04:34 pm

Well, as I understand it, we've already had at least two regulars here as fans at CHTV say they're not going to make comments for at least a while -- which is apparently a serious adverse reaction to the loss in this football game.
Does the general tenor of the postgame comments in general suggest that this upset to the 49ers is an insignificant event in the lives of the people who come here day after day to talk Packers football?
As for me, after being a loyal fan for 50 years, I'm just searching for understanding as to what happened to end our season so sadly.
It's not life altering, but it is important to me -- and I'm not embarrassed to say so.
Why would any of us spend so much time here at CHTV and not want to get as many answers as possible about the big failure of the Packers last night, and perhaps in other big games of the past?
Finally, why would you care so much about my comments repeatedly, 13TimeChamps?
Either move on or be nicer -- or else people may think you're obsessed in some way that doesn't reflect well on you.

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LambeauPlain's picture

January 23, 2022 at 11:32 am

Last year in the playoffs, Turner showed he is not a LT.

So MLF starts again him at LT when the best available LT on the team was Nijman. Put Turner back at RT and the lumbering, clumsy Kelly to the bench.

MLF has a serious flaw of making the same mistake and expecting a different result. His inability to see the game plan unraveling in real time is troubling....he is being out coached at an alarming rate.

And hiring Drayton, the top assistant for both Zook and Mennenga, and expecting him to suddenly become proficient is a jaw dropper.

MLF will have a much more difficult job next season, sans Rodgers. Mr. "Me First" Rodgers said right after the game he will "talk to Brian" to see who will be left next year after the "cap hell" decisions Rodgers helped create. "Me First" said he wants "no part of a rebuild." What does he think he will get in Denver or NY?

Last night reminded me of 2007 when the Favre era ended. Or as "The Wolf" said after the SB loss to Denver "we are just a popcorn fart in wind!"

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ImFubared's picture

January 23, 2022 at 10:45 pm

Funny I posted the exact thing. Lefleur loses Dillon at the start of the game and he doesnt know how to install a new offense other then put jones in. But if Dillon had a slew of plays designed for him, LeFleur is a deer in the headlights for some reason when that plan is out the window.
WIthout Rodgers, LeFluer isnt even an average coach. Lacks back bone to fire ST Coach mid season. This loss is on him big time.

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HarryHodag's picture

January 23, 2022 at 11:42 am

1. The 49'ers took the game from the Packers. They out-coached the Packers and their players proved to be some of the toughest nuts I've seen.
2. Aaron Rodgers didn't lose the game any more than Jimmy G. won it. Both defenses were outstanding. I've always harped on a good defense was better than a good offense and Saturday was exhibit #1.
3. Matt LF's inability to correct the special teams problem was the key problem, starting all the way back last year. The Packers didn't deserve to go to the Super Bowl with special teams as bad as they showed.
4. The 49'er's put the effort on covering the Packers receivers, showing clearly that after Adams there isn't much of a threat. No realistic threat at tight end also hurt the offense.
5. Why did the Packers go away from running the ball on a night when the ball was hard to catch? Yes, Dillon got hurt later in the game, but how many touches did he have?
6. The "Frozen Tundra" remains an incredible myth in the minds of fans. It all started with the Ice Bowl, but a closer look finds only a miraculous set of plays allowed the Packers to win that day. The Cowboys had the Packers beaten. The cold has proven to be no advantage.
7. Why did Matt LF have Turner at left tackle after Nijman did a great job there all year? They should have played the offensive line that brought them to the playoffs regardless of contract.
8. If Rodgers retires the Packers are screwed. They will still have $17 million in dead cap money and have nothing else to show for it. The best outcome would be a trade but I'm thinking his value is dropping by the day, MVP or not.
9. The 2022 Packers will not be as dominant during the season. 9-8 might be a good season.
10. Lets hope for some positives moves around March 1.

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HankScorpio's picture

January 23, 2022 at 11:54 am

I am kind of in the same place with Rodgers and the observation that it might be 2007 all over again. It feels like a last stand that came up short. In a particularly ugly way. The year-long Achilles heel (ST) and their best player combined to seal the failure---after that best player failed to deliver at home in the previous year.

The two big differences between then and now is that 1) TT managed the cap and draft so much better than Ball/Gute and 2) Rodgers had shown some chops in his regular season relief of Favre, while Love had that same chance and failed.

I'm bracing for some rough waters ahead.

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PeteK's picture

January 23, 2022 at 12:43 pm

TT managed the cap by moving on from Favre. Rodgers showed nothing until the third season. Seems like a hopeful recurring circumstance. It's hard to judge Love with such a small sample. However, about the future two things keep coming to mind. (1) Even though Favre/Rodgers had their issues, I saw communication between the two . I see the opposite between Rodgers/Love. (2) How interesting would it be to have the Ravens' Huntley as QB. On second thought, I think Love has a better chance of developing into a very good thrower.

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wildbill's picture

January 23, 2022 at 12:07 pm

If Rodgers is traded I think he will elevate his next team and those first round picks everyone thinks we will get will be late round picks. So essentially they will really be early second round picks, hardly gonna grab top ten talent unless we trade up.
Was lucky to watch the Lombardi Packers and suffered thru the 70s/80s and trust me I would rather have good seasons, make the playoffs, and be dissatisfied with underachieving in the playoffs than being 7/10.
I think MLF is a good head coach but not a great play caller or very good at in game adjustments.

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HankScorpio's picture

January 23, 2022 at 01:07 pm

"If Rodgers is traded I think he will elevate his next team and those first round picks everyone thinks we will get will be late round picks."

Presumably, if he is traded , it will be before this year's draft meaning his play would not affect the choices closest to now. Philly has plenty of draft ammo in 2022 to justify the Packers moving him there, with all their own picks plus two extra #1 and two extra #5. They were a playoff team with a below average QB, so he's not going to a rebuilder. Seems like a pretty good fit to me.

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Go_Pack1265's picture

January 23, 2022 at 12:21 pm

Does Aaron Rodgers want last night's performance to be his legacy? If he leaves it will be. It's going to be an interesting off season, especially as we watch how they deal with the cap.

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ImFubared's picture

January 23, 2022 at 10:39 pm

You hit it on the head. If he comes back and they redo this again, ya some legacy no one wants. He has to be thinking, time to pack it in or go somewhere where a team is ready to win and only needs a QB to complete the process.
He certainly knows who is up for renewal and that they cant keep everyone. Perhaps Adams has to go and a few others and Rodgers would not want that to happen but understands the cupboard is bare.
Last he may retire and if the team sucks to the heavens next year, people will say. wow he really did carry this team cant blame him for these loses.

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ckoski's picture

January 23, 2022 at 02:56 pm

Meanwhile, Darren Rizzi's Saints special teams have placed 1st, 5th, and 5th in the Gosselin rankings in his time there.

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Caden819's picture

January 23, 2022 at 03:16 pm

Forcing it to Davante while double covered and special teams ineptitude. Where have I seen this before?

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Irish_Cheesehead's picture

January 23, 2022 at 05:33 pm

If Rodgers is part of a rebuild it’s because his chunk of the cap limits what other players we can sign. If he starts his whining again, I hope we dump his ass. His song and dance coupled with his lack of production in the playoffs is getting old. Great stats guy but no champion.

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wildbill's picture

January 23, 2022 at 09:04 pm

Well he did win one championship so he is a champion.

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ImFubared's picture

January 23, 2022 at 10:34 pm

Look at it from Rodgers ego and eyes. He knew one sure thing, Bosa and Warner were coming for him and they werent looking to say hi pal.
His solution, throw quick passes to the only fast receiver on the team and thats Adams. As soon as Adams was open, he zinged it.
Cobb got zero throws and the others only a small piece of action.
Second you can bet the big money that Dillon was going to be the go to guy to carry the load and pound the ball and when he went down early, that changed the game plan immensely. Here is where I think LeFluer is week. Doesnt know how to adjust in game situations. Does the same thing over and over expecting different results each time.

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JamesLofton's picture

January 24, 2022 at 04:10 am

After next weekend, either Matthew Stafford will have as many Superbowl appearances as A Rodgers or Jimmy G will have more Superbowl appearances than A Rodgers.....who needs an MVP QB?

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