Not All Moves Are Blockbusters

Teams need to make depth and role-player moves as well as flashy ones

Ted Thompson once said, "Rosters are rosters. It's really all about players. If you have more of these guys at one spot who are really good, you keep more of the really good ones, and if you have to go a little light at another position, then that's the way you go. But saying, 'You have to have six of these, three of these, and two of these,' it doesn't always work out that way. It's not fantasy football." Thompson said that a few days before Super Bowl XLV, where the Packers were victorious in becoming world champions. The 2010 World Champions had a great story of overcoming adversity despite all of the injuries they faced during the season and in the Super Bowl itself. This Packers roster had at least three big contributors who were probably an afterthought the day they were signed, but they etched their names in history that season. 

A quick thanks to @TylerHerrick for bringing that quote back to memory

You'd be hard-pressed not to find a fan that doesn't get excited over their team making a blockbuster signing or receiving a marquee player in a blockbuster trade. Just like that, expectations for the following season are much higher than they were before. The team is receiving a player that has had a lot of success elsewhere in the NFL, and they're expected to do the same with their new team. Jerseys are sold, bets are made, and everyone is ready for that one player to make a difference. But what happens when the team signs a player who isn't a big name or isn't expected to make a big difference? Well, the sarcastic jokes fly.

You see it all over: "Oh, we're going to the Super Bowl now..." "A big nothingburger move right there." "Why didn't we get THIS guy instead!?" The average fan just doesn't understand the concept of depth or role-playing signings. Let alone the salary cap or signing a player that a team believes has untapped potential. So many think that each move needs to be a showstopper. Like Ted Thompson said, this isn't fantasy football. You can't just load up a team with marquee players, it doesn't work that way. Some of those "ho-hum" signings could end up being the key to boosting other players on your team or just backing them up in case of injury. 

Linebacker Isaiah McDuffie was resigned on Monday to a two-year deal. With the emergence of Edgerrin Cooper and the fact that Quay Walker is likely also ahead of McDuffie on the depth chart, many casual fans laughed at the move. The fact of the matter is that McDuffie has been a solid depth piece for the Packers for his entire career. Just last year, he ranked second on the team in tackles, even though he's just a "depth piece." You never know when that "depth piece" could be needed, and when they are, it's good to have one that can somewhat pick up where the starter left off, and that's exactly what McDuffie can do. 

And sometimes, those "nothingburger" signings can end up being a huge move. 

From Nothing to Something

Perhaps one of the biggest steals of GM Brian Gutekunst's tenure thus far is the signing of cornerback Rasul Douglas off the Arizona Cardinals' practice squad in early October of 2021. At the time, the Packers' CB position was suffering from injuries and a lack of quality depth to cover. Many fans were hoping for the team to trade for veteran CB Stephon Gilmore, who was made available by the Patriots and ended up being dealt to the Carolina Panthers for a 6th round pick. So, after the team didn't trade for Gilmore and instead signed Douglas, of course, many fans blasted the team and blasted the signing of Douglas, calling it "trash" and "cluelessness." Well, maybe those fans should've waited to see what happened next before they put all their marbles in that it was a bad move. 

Rasul Douglas went on to become an All-Pro cornerback, helping the Packers reach the NFC Championship. He undoubtedly outplayed Stephon Gilmore, who only played for Carolina the remainder of that season before leaving for a new team afterward. Douglas was later dealt two years later to the Buffalo Bills for a third-round pick. Not bad for a guy that initially was just plucked off a practice squad. 

Not every single move made by the team is going to be a blockbuster. The signing of free agents Frank Zombo and Howard Green, alongside the signing of undrafted free agents Tramon Williams and Sam Shields surely weren't celebrated when they happened. They were depth or future contributor signings. But they helped the Packers win a World Championship in the long run. 

This isn't fantasy football. Not every player is going to be a flashy contributor. But, like a child at dinner time, sometimes you have to eat your vegetables to get to that sweet dessert. Those depth pieces and role players are the vegetables, and sometimes it's those players that will help get you to that sweet championship. 

 

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Greg Meinholz is a lifelong devoted Packer fan. A contributor to CheeseheadTV as well as PackersTalk. Follow him on Twitter @gmeinholz and Bluesky @gmeinholz.bsky.social for Packers commentary, random humor, beer endorsements, and occasional Star Wars and Marvel ramblings.

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beerandbrats's picture

March 04, 2025 at 10:27 am

Is it just me or are we trying to justify paying $4 million for mediocrity?
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PS: I suspected I might get crushed before I posted this comment but I was really just complaining about the economy and the price of eggs! ;-)

Is the job market so bad that we have to retain mediocre employees AND give them a significant pay raise to retain them? If this is the going rate to retain depth for special teams, I'm good with that. If we are in a SB window, Wilson comes with an age risk but he provided much more value at half the cost.

I recommend we look to the draft for a suitable replacement because the draft holds much more potential and we have an opportunity to get much better at LB, for a rookie pay rate.

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NJ-RICK's picture

March 04, 2025 at 10:34 am

Exactly, McDuffie is a mediocre LB but the Packers pay 8 million for two years to keep mediocrity around. Again this is the work of a weak GM. Packers need Pass rushers and aggressive/fast LB's. If Jaire moves on then throw in CB's as well....

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Coldworld's picture

March 04, 2025 at 10:55 am

If none of it is guaranteed, or very little, it’s essentially just maintains depth for 90 man competition. All teams need to do that. Having him on the 90 sets a floor to the eventual competition at least and a no or minimal risk if the contract is not materially guaranteed. Teams do this every year, and many such contracts do not make the roster. That is what I imagine this is with a player who likely knew his best chance was to stay with Haffley. I would be very surprised if it’s more than that, and a little concerned.

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dobber's picture

March 04, 2025 at 10:56 am

It wouldn't be the first time the Packers signed a guy with minimal down-the-road cap impact and let him go before Week 1.

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dobber's picture

March 04, 2025 at 10:55 am

Why do WE have to justify anything? I didn't sign him and neither did you.

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NJ-RICK's picture

March 04, 2025 at 12:27 pm

As an NFL owner I'm just putting in my 2 cents. Packers need a better GM.

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dobber's picture

March 04, 2025 at 12:38 pm

"As an NFL owner I'm just putting in my 2 cents."

Ok...I laughed out loud.

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stockholder's picture

March 04, 2025 at 01:19 pm

I didn't. I agree with him.
His revolving door, will be the packers doom.

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13TimeChamps's picture

March 04, 2025 at 02:43 pm

I hate to break it to you, but the only thing you "own" is a piece of paper that looks nice framed on your wall.

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beerandbrats's picture

March 04, 2025 at 02:02 pm

Keep drinking the kool-aid dobber!

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dobber's picture

March 04, 2025 at 10:02 pm

OH YEAAAAAHHH!!!

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13TimeChamps's picture

March 04, 2025 at 10:58 am

You can't have Pro Bowl, All Pro, future HOF players at every level/position. Every team has useful backups, rotational players...whatever you want to call them. It's called depth. McDuffie fills that role on the Packers, as well as being a hard working, respected teammate.

McDuffie isn't a starter and isn't being paid as such. This was a good signing, even though the "Fire 'em all" crowd doesn't understand how NFL rosters are built.

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Guam's picture

March 04, 2025 at 10:30 am

Does Philly win the Super Bowl without Mekhi Becton ($2.75MM) and Zack Baun ($3.5MM)? Two relatively cheap free agent signings that paid off handsomely for the Eagles. Gute has had a couple of acquisitions like that - the author mentioned Douglas and I would add Campbell. Gute needs to find a couple more for this season.

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KenEllis's picture

March 04, 2025 at 02:44 pm

Philly MAY have won the SB without those 2 bargain signings.

But Philly absolutely DOES NOT win the SB without taking big swings on Saquon Barkley and AJ Brown.

The Pack could use a few big swings and hits along with all the re-signings of JAGs like McDuffie.

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Guam's picture

March 04, 2025 at 02:50 pm

Gute does okay with his big swings - Z. Smith, P. Smith, McKinney, and Jacobs. You need to have some singles and doubles along with the home runs to have a Super Bowl roster.

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dobber's picture

March 04, 2025 at 10:55 am

"it doesn't always work out that way. It's not fantasy football."

A lot of people struggle with that notion.

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PeteK's picture

March 04, 2025 at 10:57 am

Two seasons 8mill ( we don't know how much is guaranteed) for a reliable team player with good stats. Also, we still have 49 mill of cap space.

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Leatherhead's picture

March 04, 2025 at 11:09 am

It takes an entire team to win it all, and McDuffie is a good player for us. Pay $5M for a 26 year old vet who has played a lot of good snaps for us on defense and special teams? I think keeping him is a solid move, and if somebody ahead of him gets injured, we'll be glad we have McDuffie available. I also think that losing McDuffie over a relatively small amount of money would have been a classic case of 'penny-wise, and pound-foolish".

My Way Too Early 21-man Preferred Game Day Roster on Defense: McKinney, Bullard, Williams, Nixon, Valentine as the starting secondary. Walker, Cooper, McDuffie, starting LB, Wilson and Hopper as backups and special teams. Gary-Slaton-Clark-VanNess backed up by Enagbare, Wyatt, Brooks, and Wooden. That's 18 guys, including two of our FAs (Wilson and Slaton).

I think the Packers will use FA/draft to improve the secondary. But that's only 3 spots, and only one real need....a starting caliber corner. If McDuffie can be resigned for less than $5M, then I think that so can Slaton, and Wilson should be much less, leaving ample room to pursue a starting CB.

This was the #6 scoring defense in the league last year, and it was Hafley's first year. We can basically bring back the entire defense (minus Stokes) and add improvements.

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crayzpackfan's picture

March 04, 2025 at 11:27 am

"Gary-Slaton-Clark-VanNess backed up by Enagbare, Wyatt, Brooks, and Wooden."
You must not think very highly of Cox?

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Leatherhead's picture

March 04, 2025 at 12:54 pm

I'll put Cox and Mosby in the same boat. They didn't really play very much for us. Put together, they had fewer snaps than Preston Smith, who only played for us in 9 games. Mosby at least played 241 special teams snaps, compared to Cox's 40.

Enagbare 47% of the defensive snaps. Gary, 59%, Van Ness, almost 40% and Brooks almost 41%. In fact Brooks had quite a few more snaps than Cox and Mosby combined.

I think we only have room to dress 21 people. 8 DBs, 5 LBs, 4 DTs, 4 DEs. IMO, Cox is on the outside looking in. I don't think he was active for the playoff game.

It's easier for me to believe that we'll draft a guy than it is that Cox is going to replace one of the guys ahead of him. Of course, injuries could always change things, but he has quite a few guys ahead of him. Add in that he's kind of small for a DE...250, which kind of limits him....and Gutekunst's preference for larger guys.....I think he's a longshot to make the 53.

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GregC's picture

March 04, 2025 at 01:14 pm

You are basing your assessment of Cox solely on total snaps played, with no context and no mention of performance. You mentioned that Preston Smith only played in 9 games but neglected to mention that Cox only played in 7 games. Once Smith was traded, Cox was part of the rotation for every game except the season finale, which he missed with an injury. He had 4 sacks in those 7 games. Double that, and he would have more sacks than Rashan Gary. Also, Cox got better as he played more. He should be part of the rotation next year, and he might pass up Enagbare and Van Ness.

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stockholder's picture

March 04, 2025 at 01:26 pm

You can't double anything.
The game plans would change that.
No team focused on him.

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GregC's picture

March 04, 2025 at 01:35 pm

Okay then, let's compare Cox to two players who played the entire season and were not double teamed, or at least not often: Enagbare had 4.5 sacks and Van Ness had 3. Cox had 4 in 7 games.

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egbertsouse's picture

March 04, 2025 at 01:49 pm

The writer misunderstands the laughter. I’m not laughing because it’s a ridiculous move, I get that JAGs have a place in roster building. I laugh because sites like this think it’s worth a ten paragraph article and fans think it’s worth 125 comments.

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stockholder's picture

March 04, 2025 at 01:54 pm

Gute signed the smith brothers.
It's time again to sign 2 pass rushers again.
Malcolm Koonce. Oak.
Joseph Ossai DE Cinn.
Both had injuries and would be a bargain.
5 mil a year brings them to GB.
Youth, depth and both these guys are ready

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PhantomII's picture

March 04, 2025 at 08:40 pm

Great picture of a LB who knows how to work out and get results....Way bigger than a 25 million pass rusher Gary...who is not winning off the edge enough....Back to the Gym Gary.

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BradHTX's picture

March 05, 2025 at 12:34 pm

I don’t necessarily disagree with the author’s viewpoint, but I do feel compelled to point out an error of detail: while Rasul Douglas was a solid-to-good player for the Packers, he was never a Pro Bowl player, let alone All Pro as the author says.

Sidenote… Good God, is anyone else getting these horrible damn pop-up ads for Oikos Pro yogurt literally every 30 seconds you’re on this site? I understand Al, Aaron and Corey gots to get paid, but it makes the experience almost impossible.

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