Packers 2018 NFL Draft: Day 1 and 2 Analysis

The Green Bay Packers first three selections in the 2018 NFL Draft are discussed and analyzed.

With their first three selections the Green Bay Packers bolster their defense by drafting two highly-touted cornerbacks in Jaire Alexander and Josh Jackson and an athletic linebacker in Oren Burks.

Round 1 (18): Jaire Alexander, CB, Louisville

When the Packers were on the clock with the 14th overall pick, they decided to trade back in the first round instead of taking a high profile defensive prospect, like Derwin James or Tremaine Edmunds. However, even though they gained a fifth-round pick and a first-round pick in 2019 by swapping first round selections with the New Orlean Saints, the Packers didn't sit at pick 27 for very long. Only minutes later, they made another trade. This time they gave up their third-round selection to Seattle to move up to 18 and select Jaire Alexander.

Alexander is one of the top cornerback prospects in the draft, and the Packers get great value here in the middle of the first round. After playing a part-time role as a freshman in 2015, Alexander emerged as an elite college corner as a sophomore, where he recorded 39 tackles, five interceptions, nine pass breakups, and a forced fumble. He also made an impact as a punt returner.

The All-ACC defensive back only played in six games in 2017 due to knee and hand injuries. However, he still showed the elite cover ability and ball skills on tape as a junior. He's a quick, compact explosive defensive back who is physical at the line of scrimmage and a sound tackler in space. He has the speed (4.38) and athleticism to excel as a boundary corner in the NFL, but he also has the ball skills and awareness to be a playmaker as a nickel corner in a Mike Pettine defense.

Going into the draft, Alexander was widely regarded as one of the top-three corners in the class. He may have even challenged Denzel Ward for the top cornerback spot if it wasn't for his injury-laden 2017 season.

What They're Saying:

"I like this pick. Alexander has some swag about him. He's the No. 1 corner on my board. In addition to being competitive, tough, he tackles, he finds the football in the air and he also adds value in the punt return game. Historically, Green Bay only takes corners who can find the ball in the air, and this kid does it." -- Mike Mayock from NFL.com

"They get a smooth cover player who plays with swagger. They wanted a corner and get a darn good one. Exceptional mirroring skills. Ultra aware in zone. Drivs rapidly on the football and is aggressive at the catch point. Plays bigger than his smaller stature. Can thrive in any type of coverage due to football IQ and athleticism." -- Rob Rang from CBSSports.com

"Twitchy and quick, Alexander is an instinctive cornerback with the ability to anticipate routes and the quickness to close on throws and make plays on the ball. His tape in 2017 was uneven due to issues with a sprained knee which could raise concerns over his durability considering his slender build. When healthy, he has the potential to become a second cornerback, but teams may view him as a full time nickel cornerback who is able to avoid the rigors of excessive run support." -- Lance Zierlen from NFL.com

Other Options on the Board:

The Packers could have selected FSU safety Derwin James or athletic linebacker Tremaine Edmunds at pick 14 before they traded back with the Saints. Many draft analysts view James and Edmunds as "Blue Chip" defensive players, but with several other talented defenders on the board, like Alexander, Leighton Vander Esch, or Harold Landry, Green Bay probably felt good about trading back, gaining more draft capital, and still getting a defensive player they liked. However, when the Packers moved up to pick 18, James and Edmunds were off the board. Green Bay could have went with Vander Esch, who went to Dallas one pick later, but Alexander seemed like the best value out of the players available. 

Why They Went with Alexander:

Alexander fills arguably the Packers' biggest need. The Packers traded Damarious Randall to the Browns in the offseason and Quinten Rollins has been disappointing so far. Alexander is also scheme versatile, can excelerate in zone or man, and has the tools to be an outstanding nickel cornerback in the NFL. Alexander brings speed, ball skills, and an edge to Green Bay's secondary. Outside of size, he has all of the tools to be an excellent cornerback in the NFL. He should immediately compete for a starting job in Green Bay's scheme.

 

Round 2 (45): Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa

The Packers double-downed on cornerback and selected Josh Jackson with the 45th overall pick. Ironically, many projected Jackson to Green Bay in the first round leading up to the draft, but here the Packers get the former standout Iowa defensive back in the second round.

Jackson only started one year for the Hawkeyes, but he had an outstanding 2017 season. The junior defensive back led the nation in interceptions with eight, while also recording a 48 tackles and a whopping 18 pass breakups. Against Ohio State, Jackson recorded three interceptions, showcasing big playmaking ability in a crucial game. The 6-foot-1, 196-pound corner followed this performance up with two pick-sixes against Wisconsin the following week.

Jackson's ball skills really standout about his game, and with a strong background as a receiver, it makes sense he has a knack for the ball. The All-Big Ten defensive back is at his best dropping in zone and utilizing his excellent instincts to make plays. However, he's still a solid man coverage defender and can use his size and length to press at the line. Along with Alexander, the Packers get another potential playmaker in their secondary.

What They're Saying:

"They add a guy who had first-round talent to go with Jaire Alexander. Jackson has great ball skills. Fantastic combination of length, zone awareness and ball skills, which lend credence to thought he'll become a superstar at the next level. Decently fluid hips. Only on year of elite production but he was a lockdown, ball-hawking cornerback in 2017." -- Rob Rang from CBSSports.com

"They get the instinctive corner from Iowa. Compared to Richard Sherman. Elite ball skills. A little bit grabby in man-to-man." -- Mike Mayock from NFL.com

"Long-armed ball-hawk who understands how to maximize his length to disrupt the catch and take it away. Jackson could be labeled a 'one-year wonder', but 27 passes defensed in a single season isn't random . . . He is armed with route anticipation, ball skills, and NFL length that teams covet in a press-man corner. It may take time, but the tools are there to be an early starter." -- Lance Zierlen from NFL.com

Other Options on the Board:

The Packers passed on a group of second-tier edge rushers to take another defensive back. They saw more value in selecting Jackson than bringing in devlepmental pass rushers, like Uchenna Nwosu, Sam Hubbard, Lorenzo Carter, or Kemoko Turay. Green Bay also passed on adding an offensive weapon, like Anthony Miller, DJ Chark, Dallas Goedert, or Derrius Guice. The Packers could have used a dynamic receiver like Miller or Chark in their offense, but securing their secondary with another talented defensive back was probably a more pressing need.

Why They Went with Jackson: 

Jackson gives the Packers another playmaker on defense. His length and ability to be physical in coverage makes up for his average speed (4.56). Jackson could play on the boundary and compete with Tramon Williams and Davon House for playing time, while Alexander should excel as a nickel corner and second-year man Kevin King should secure the other starting spot. Jackson could work on being more consistent against the run, but overall, his knack for making game-changing plays and locking down top receivers was too good to pass up in the second round.

 

Round 3 (88): Oren Burks, LB, Vanderbilt

The Packers traded back up into the end of the third round to select linebacker Oren Burks with the 88th overall. The Vanderbilt product is a tremendous athlete with great straight-line speed (4.59). He finisehd in the top-three among linebackers at the combine in the broad jump (131"), vertical (39.5'"), short shuttle (4.15 sec.), and three-cone drill (6.82 sec.).

The three-year starter beban his career at Vanderbilt playing safety, but then transitioned to linebacker in 2016. His experience at defensive back shows up on film. Burks moves fluidly in space, demonstrating quick lateral movement and an ability to smoothly change direction and flow to the ball. He finished second on the Commodores in tackles as a senior with 82 stops, and he really excels playing out in space where he's allowed to run and chase down ball carriers.

Thoe 233-pound linebacker's best fit in the NFL is as a weak inside linebacker or nickel linebacker, where he can use his speed and athleticism to make plays in pursuit. He's a solid pick for the Packers at the end of the third round.

What They're Saying:

"In any other decade, Burk's lack of familiarity for any position for more than a year would force him into the 'tweener' stack and he would be on his way. In today's game filled with hybrid players and sub-packages, Burks' background could make him more valuable. He needs to play with more consistency in diagnosing and tackling, but his athleticism, cover talent, and ability on special teams make him a developmental prospect with decent upside." -- Lance Zierlen from NFL.com

"He can run, but it maight take some time for him to play. Again, speed matters and he can run. Chiseled, explosive linebacker who'll make his presence felt in the run game, and has plenty of speed to get to the outside." -- Rob Rang from CBSSports.com

"A very athletically gifted linebacker with a ton of experience in different schemes . . . He will fit in well with a team that runs multiple sub-packages and is looking for a good coverage linebacker with special teams upside." -- Matt Miller from Bleacher Report

Other Options on the Board:

Big boundary receivers, Tre'quan Smith, Equinimeous St. Brown, and DaSean Hamilton were still on the board when the Packers traded up to pick 88 and selected Burks. However, having a speedy, athletic linebacker was more of a priority to them than adding another weapon on offense. Green Bay could have also selected offensive tackles Joseph Noteboom or Chuks Okorafor, who both went just a few picks later. The Packers could always use more depth on the offensive line, but the fact Green Bay traded up 13 picks to select Burks means they were really high on him and he was the guy they were targeting all along. It's clear they want to get faster and more athletic on defense.

Why They Went with Burks:

Burks adds speed and coverage ability to the Packers linebacker group. He should contribute immediately as a third-down defender, and even be featured as the lone linebacker in their dime defense. As Burks grows more into his 6-foot-3, 233-pound frame and add weight, he should develop into a more complete, three-down player in the NFL. Burks is a sideline-to-sideline linebacker who can hold his own in coverage--something the Packers haven't in some time from their inside linebackers. He certainly brings more athleticism and three-down ability than Jake Ryan. And Burks is still young at the position and possesses a high ceiling as a prospect, which is exciting.

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Samson's picture

April 27, 2018 at 10:11 pm

"Go with Gute"

I'm really hoping Gute has a better vision than our previous GM. --- At this point, he has to be given the chance to salvage AR's career. --- I really believe many more changes and adjustments are just around the corner. --- Be bold, Gute.

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EdsLaces's picture

April 27, 2018 at 10:17 pm

Can't believe we got Jackson that late ...nailed it.

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sonomaca's picture

April 28, 2018 at 01:08 am

Apparently, Jackson is weak in man coverage, but Alexander is an excellent man corner. So, people putting Alexander in the slot have got it backwards.

In Pettine’s man heavy scheme, not sure where Jackson fits, exactly.

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MITM's picture

April 28, 2018 at 01:35 am

Playing in the slot for a guy with his speed is different than struggling with man coverage on the outside. Hes is perfect for the slot where staying with your man will not be a problem for him considering the routes that come from the slot. Jackson is the one who has/would have trouble in the slot which is exactly where he would have had to play if we took him at 14 and didnt get Alexander. Reason being is that Williams and King are the Day 1 starters outside and if you take a guy at 14 at a position of need it usually means you are starting him and he would have had to play the slot by default. It all worked out perfectly though.

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Turophile's picture

April 29, 2018 at 09:47 am

Jackson was a great value pick................but if i was GM I wouldn't have taken him. After Alexander (pick one) I'd have gone with WR Miller in round two. I doubt Miller had Jackson's grade, but WR really needed a starter-level upgrade.

Now the downside (with my version) is that corner is less sorted than it would have been.
The upside is the outside WR hole (loss of Jordy) is addressed.

As it stands, i just have to hope WR J'Mon Moore (taken in round four) can rise to the occasion.

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Samson's picture

April 27, 2018 at 10:26 pm

We still need some speed at WR.
It may be too late in the draft to find a bonafide difference maker at WR. --- Plus, the OL is weak.

Hate the think the "D" suddenly jumps the "O".
The 2018 version of the Pack is still about scoring points. An improvement on the "D" is nice but the "O" still has to be top-ten.

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sonomaca's picture

April 27, 2018 at 10:29 pm

Not weak. Just worry about Bulaga and right guard. Murphy is a decent backup. Will Spriggs figure it out. What about Amichia?

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TKWorldWide's picture

April 28, 2018 at 06:11 am

Did you say “worry”?
Hop on the bus, Gus!

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Coldworld's picture

April 27, 2018 at 10:35 pm

I think speed at receiver is more lacking than our O line, where I think some already on the roster can step up. We need a field stretcher and it’s likely going to have to be a project. However, our defense has got a lot better on paper. If you asked me before it started, I’d likely have taken this scenario at the close of day two

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HankScorpio's picture

April 28, 2018 at 07:57 am

I think the concern about not addressing the offense so far is a valid one. I would have loved to seen them add a pass catcher or OL help by now, too. But you can't force anything in the draft. Gute made a good comment in that it is not about filling holes, it is about adding good players. Of course if those players can fill holes, all the better. I think these players did, just not on the offensive side of the ball.

But a top 10 offense is easy to imagine. The Packers get the biggest possible upgrade on offense. They get Rodgers back. He can paper over a lot of issues on that side of the ball. While he was recovering from injury, they found a couple of guys that can play RB. They signed Jimmy Graham. If he has anything left in the tank, he can add the Finley/Cook dimension to the offense. And when those guys were at the top of their game, the Packer offense was nearly unstoppable. Plus, they have re-made the coaching staff and went back to scratch there. That'll get the creative juices flowing not only in the makeup of the playbook but also Rodgers engagement in making use of it.

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sonomaca's picture

April 27, 2018 at 10:25 pm

Still need developmental tackle, guard, receiver, tight end, edge. Most of these will be “developmental”

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Coldworld's picture

April 27, 2018 at 10:41 pm

What about the TE they elevated for the last game? I thought they were high on him as a prospect.

I think Spriggs is likely still our development tackle this year so we need some more depth there.

I feel small school off-the-radar type picks coming tomorrow to try to dig up a guard and edge with potential. I suppose we would inevitably be fishing for some our needs. I guess it is hard to argue our secondary wasn’t the one thing we could not leave to that.

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Michael Hughes's picture

April 28, 2018 at 01:38 am

On the flip side , the offense has become old, slow and full of JAGs ...

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Spock's picture

April 28, 2018 at 04:30 am

"What about the TE they elevated for the last game? I thought they were high on him as a prospect." I believe his name is Emanuel Byrd and agree the coaches seemed to like him. He played well in the last game of the season as I recall.

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sonomaca's picture

April 28, 2018 at 07:04 am

He’s pretty short for a TE, but may work as a Richard Rodgers replacement.

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RobinsonDavis's picture

April 28, 2018 at 10:16 am

I agree with your list (exception guard), sonomac. I would also add a back-up center and long-snapper as well. There are still some players there, and would not be surprised if the Packers trade-up again in the 4th. GO PACK!!

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sonomaca's picture

April 27, 2018 at 10:37 pm

Just occurred to me how young, athletic, and “modern” the Pack defense has become. Speed and athleticism everywhere. Capers would have no idea what to do with these guys.

If they can limit opponents to 21 points, they’ll win a lot of games.

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John Kirk's picture

April 27, 2018 at 10:37 pm

Some may not like the old...we could've gotten him later, but... I have little doubt this guy may not have been drafted at all...

http://nashvillepublicradio.org/post/vanderbilts-oren-burks-weighs-activ...

Teams are blackballing guys like Burks and he's done NOTHING in the NFL. Kap can't get a sniff and Eric Reid tells quite a story, too.

To trade up and lose your valuable 1st pick in Round 4 for a guy I honestly believe had NO SHOT of being drafted in the 3rd round is the definition of MAJOR REACH.

NFL.com has him pegged as a backup potential and core ST guy. If that's what we traded up for then...?

Brian has wasted our 3rd to have to waste our 4th and another pick, for that 1st next year. We could've gotten much better value from this draft just standing pat after the first trade...but now he really took this draft even further down the road of the bizarre and disappointing. I hope he's having fun like Brett just trying to make a play.

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Coldworld's picture

April 27, 2018 at 10:49 pm

His character on and off the field is cited as exceptional. One opinionated player named Bennett does not mean we should exclude every player active in causes in the community. I have seen no suggestion that he was anything other than a positive for his program.

I say this doubting he and I share an iota of our world views.

Only thing I care about is can he, and will he, contribute positively to our next Super Bowl.

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John Kirk's picture

April 27, 2018 at 10:59 pm

How did you get Martellus Bennett out of my commentary? I cited Kap and Eric Reid...guys who have done good things in the league. Burks has done NOTHING. You think teams are clamoring to add a social activist in this current NFL climate? NO. Why trade up for a guy like that who is already thought of as a later pick? Why? Boredom? You honestly don't think he lasts until 101? Oh, I know... we'll never know. I'll go with what is most likely here. He would've been there at 101. This pick is as bad as Richard Rodgers selection that I went bonkers about a few years ago. Sadly, I'll have to live through years of Packers platitudes...give him time...he's still young... watch for 2nd year jump... it's no fun being a fan of this team a lot of the time.

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Colin_C's picture

April 27, 2018 at 11:49 pm

Hey now, I'd bet Burk's could play TE better than Rodgers :-)

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John Kirk's picture

April 28, 2018 at 12:38 am

He probably could! So could you, CC. :) One of my all time favorite tweets reads something to the effect of: Brian Gutekunst offered Richard Rodgers a 3 year extension if he could beat Mike McCarthy in the 40... He is now a Philadelphia Eagle.

Seeing what you wrote there as a joke brought to mind a thought I had about Alexander. That guy is shifty as heck. We are the kings of position switching. I wondered how that guy would be as an offensive weapon? We don't have much at WR. The Titans toyed with Adoree Jackson on O last year. Why not use this kid on O where he actually could make a difference? I know it's too soon and too much to ask a day after picking him but I'd feel a lot better about his selection if we used his skills for some offensive situations. The guy could be our version of Tyreek Hill. I'd love the pick if we could potentially squeeze some offensive big plays out of him because the one thing our O needs is speed and electricity.

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JonnieB12's picture

April 28, 2018 at 04:12 am

I read that Atlanta was very high on Burks as well and was going to draft him a few spots down.

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Since'61's picture

April 28, 2018 at 11:08 am

It's no fun reading your consistently negative posts ad value judgements about people you have never met or have anything to do with. You don't appear to have much fun or to be happy about anything. But here you are trying to disparage everything the Packers do. Misery loves company, just like it loves Viking trolls. Thanks, Since '61

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TKWorldWide's picture

April 28, 2018 at 11:16 am

Like I said, no shortage of poopy flavored lollipops, or cornflakes soaked in urine.
To me, the whole Packer thing is entertainment, and how people choose to enjoy their entertainment is up to them. But what I don’t understand is WHY that approach is fun. Is it fear of being a “fanboy”? Afraid of being accused of drinking the kool-aid? A desire to appear to be the smartest one in the room?

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John Kirk's picture

April 28, 2018 at 11:59 am

TK...I would ask the same question but on the other side of things. Why do people have to make EVERYTHING the Packers do into something wonderful? Is it because they lack knowledge and want to feel part of a buddy club where everyone says great things minus actual knowledge?

I think that's your answer... I've followed football for nearly 40 years and am an analytical and critical thinker. I'm not a fanboy...a fanboy doesn't think. A fanboy is a fanboy because he praises EVERYTHING with no objectivity...no balance. Who would wish to be that way? Sure, they're happy but it's built on a lie and false premise. I would rather be miserable than live in false reality.

A guy like me was in love with Aaron Jones prior to last year's draft. I still am... save for the fact the guy is a pothead which I don't like, and I went gaga when we took him. The Packers have a philosophy that I don't. Many of you have just praised all the Packers MO's ...I question them because I wouldn't do them the way we do. That's where thinking comes into it...I have my own thoughts. The Packers thoughts don't become mine because I'm a fan. If they do for you, then realize it and don't criticize someone who is an independent thinker just because he isn't drinking the kool aid.

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John Kirk's picture

April 28, 2018 at 11:47 am

You come here for fun? That's what I thought. I come here to talk about what I feel. When I feel good, I talk about it...when I don't feel so good I talk about it, too. You are happy with the draft. Good for you. I am not. Had we drafted Courtland Sutton, or taken Anthony Miller I'd have been ecstatic. Instead we took the next version of Jerel Worthy at CB...a BIg 10 guy who was available in Round 2 and EVERYONE was celebrating how this Big 10 stud was still available...partying like it was 1999...he was there for a reason, just like Josh Jackson. Teams need CB's yet here was Josh Jackson not being drafted over and over. We get him and we're the geniuses? Could it be we're the idiots and he's like Jerel Worthy was where the entire NFL knew he was no good save for us thinking we got value? These are fair questions painted negatively because you don't like it. That's fine but let's not confuse what's going on here. I present my opinion whether it's positive or negative and sadly I'm forced to come across as negative because that's my honest thoughts.

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John Galt's picture

April 28, 2018 at 07:53 am

totally agree with you. 408th ranked player on Draftek. He was a 7th rounder or a free agent. Why trade up for a 233 lb converted safety. Could be a good player but totally dumb to trade up for him.

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John Kirk's picture

April 28, 2018 at 12:05 pm

John...this was the exact same thing as Richard Rodgers. Brian said last night the board was thinning out and he wanted to get a guy who could offer versatility. So, it wasn't that Oren was a great player, it was all the guys who were hybrid were almost gone, so he traded up to get one. This is exactly what they did that led to the Richard Rodgers reach in the 3rd round. All the TE's going off the board, so they forced the board and took Richard. Brian heavily forced this pick last night...that's what trading up is. Those who don't see that aren't looking.

Oren Burks was a forced pick and he is a guy who is strongly wired for social activism which I actually applaud, personally, but in the NFL this is not welcomed. How do you trade up for a guy who is activism first football 2nd when you just stood at the podium and talked about how you need the right fits in the org? So, the org wants to add a rabid social activist and they feel he fits with them? I didn't realize our org was all in with social activism? I don't understand how we say certain things and then act not in accordance with what we say? Brian is heavily inconsistent in what he says from the podium. I don't respect that at all. That's two straight days where he's been illogical... and nobody asked about his social activism after he was selected. The media didn't do their job there at all.

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NickPerry's picture

April 27, 2018 at 11:00 pm

Burks was a reach IMO and the Packers probably should have just stayed put if they wanted Burks so bad. Me thinks he still would have been there at the end of the 4th round tomorrow.

Need a WR BAD...Same with a few O-Linemen

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John Kirk's picture

April 27, 2018 at 11:23 pm

NP...

I have little doubt they moved up for Key and got scooped by the Raiders. Just a foolish, foolish, rookie GM mistake. To compound the error Brian just picked the next LB on his board.

A trade up into the Goldilocks zone of this draft and come back out with Oren Burks? Tell me these last two nights have just been a bad dream. The evidence is growing for me that we're in very incapable hands with Brian.

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sonomaca's picture

April 27, 2018 at 11:33 pm

I doubt it. Key is definitely not Packer People.

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Colin_C's picture

April 27, 2018 at 11:54 pm

Deep breaths John, deeps breaths...

Let's just wait a bit before we pronounce judgement on our new GM. Literally nobody knows who actually drafted well and who didn't right now. And we won't find out for 2-3 years. I do have the same hunch though that they tried to get Key. But Gute seemed jazzed they could get Burks, so who knows... (and yes, I know it's his job to smile and wave at the media)

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John Kirk's picture

April 28, 2018 at 12:49 am

Don't worry about me Colin. :) I go through this every year with Packers drafts. I've had to sit and watch the last first 3 picks in the draft all be defense. I have to listen to the same 2-3 year stuff. All I want is to feel good about who we picked and I'm telling you that rarely ever happens. It's become an annual tradition much like exiting the playoffs before the SB.

It's very hard for me to not feel like Brian is not the right guy. He went hard after CB and WR in FA. He ends up signing two stop gaps in Williams and House and then proceeds to use a 1 and a 2 on more CB's. He pursues Watkins and Allen Robinson in FA, and after 3 rounds has no WR. I'm a little puzzled.

The CB position is a trigger for me. All those picks wasted on having nothing and needing two more high picks? That's disgraceful. When you factor in letting a future Pro Bowler get away for peanuts...it's even worse. It wasn't enough drafting their "lockdown" CB in King last season? That's being facetious. I think drafting Alexander and Jackson is proof they know King isn't a player. If this team honestly thought King was a shutdown CB1, do you honestly believe we're taking back to back CB's in Brian's 1st draft? Not a chance.

I'd rather have your guy Anthony Miller than the 3 guys we have...and maybe more than all 3 of our guys combined.

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steven10825's picture

April 28, 2018 at 02:16 am

Lol you need more than just two corners.... B.p.a.

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John Kirk's picture

April 28, 2018 at 02:32 am

I think you need to listen to Brian's presser on Friday night.

Jason Wilde asked the best question Packers media has asked in ages when he recounted all the times Ted stood up there and said "that's just how the board worked" after taking strings of defensive players in a row. Wilde got Brian to go full Ted mode by saying...yeah, that's just how the board worked... with a big smile. He also dropped a few "quite frankly's".

Packers did NOT go BPA. Brian made a very pointed reference to players having "the right wiring"...so he drafted partly based on personality fit, not talent. Derwin James is a Packer or perhaps Edmunds had they not been wacky and stupid respectively. James was the BPA...he just didn't fit what Brian was looking for personality wise.

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John Galt's picture

April 28, 2018 at 08:03 am

If Kirk is wrong, then we won the last 5 Super Bowls. Guess waht? we didn't. so totally agree with him.

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Finwiz's picture

April 28, 2018 at 10:44 am

Boy you're on a roll going for all-time disagreement never before seen on these boards.

So this is a serious question.....did the Packers need CB's or not?
Then if you assume they did, but I'd guess you believer they didn't, then besides Ward, who were the next tier of CB's in this draft?

I mean come on man......IMO - they NEEDED CB's! Don't tell me you wanted to go into the season with Williams and House as starters? Ones an old guy, and the other ones a perpetual injury, and games missed, waiting to happen.

You can't be this seriously disturbed and triggered by these two CB picks.
They are good players. How good they will be in the pro's remains to be seen, but they were arguably the 2nd and 3rd best pure cornerbacks in the draft. I wouldn't have paid the huge price to move up and get Ward, for likely a similar skill set. You're way off base with the negativity about this, and I'm not sure where it all comes from.

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Finwiz's picture

April 28, 2018 at 11:20 am

Also....John K, the Randall / Rollins comparison is not relevant or applicable because Randall was a safety they tried to convert to corner, and Rollins had VERY limited experience in a small conference playing CB. He was a basketball player that decided to take up football later on.

The 2 guys we drafted this year are pure corners with significant experience and acclaim.

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John Kirk's picture

April 28, 2018 at 01:20 pm

Significant experience? Josh Jackson had one year. Randall and Rollins are different but that doesn't mean because they weren't good that Jaire and Josh will be better because they're different. Terrell Buckley and Ahmad Carroll were real CB's and they weren't good.

I'm okay with Alexander just not how we got to him. Jackson I strongly dislike and is the wrong schematic fit. Pettine is an aggressive corner on an island in press kind of guy. Josh Jackson is a zone corner. He makes no sense for our scheme. Ever seen that before? Round peg meets square hole...again. I'm glad he was great in zone vs. Big 10 WR's...he's now in the NFL where he's going to face NFL WR's in man. That'll work well dontcha think? I know you're willing to wait and see and we all are but the thinking should be heavily criticized because it appears to be a terrible fit.

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John Kirk's picture

April 28, 2018 at 01:39 pm

I'm okay with Alexander... he's mighty mouse and oft injured which is reason to express concern is it not? It has to spun out of when it's asked with no good solid answer.

Josh Jackson, I already posted about several times. I don't like this player. So, if we need CB's I should be happy because they took two in a row? It's about the quality of the player picked, not that it feels a need.

Are you happy with J'Mon Moore at WR because we needed a WR? I'm not. I recognized the WR need as I do with CB, I just happen to not like the player, Moore, being picked for that need just like I'm not happy with Alexander or Jackson at CB. Does that make sense? I knew months ago the "solution" was drafting a Round 1 CB and picking up a scrub in FA. That's exactly what they did.

Again, just because you draft players at a position of need does NOT mean you have filled that need. Ask all the NFL teams who have used overall 1st picks on QB's that still needed a QB. I don't like the players we're picking. I've explained why...you are free to question it but it's hard to counter my concerns because they're valid. You either ignore them or mock them.

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croatpackfan's picture

April 28, 2018 at 06:52 am

Nick, Packers already have 11 OL on the roster (+1 as FA - Jahri Evans). 4 T, 2 C and 5 G. If Packers can not build 5 linemen to start NFL game, you might need 25 OL to be "sure"...

I think many of us are to hard on those linemen. Last season they played with QB (3-7 record) who was not able to decide what he want to do with the ball. He was keeping that ball for eternity...

I think Packers have very solid if not excellent OL already!

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stockholder's picture

April 28, 2018 at 07:29 am

If Spriggs can make the jump, and if Murphy can come back . Yes . Williams and House will not be around much longer. The future is King, Alexander, Jackson. MM said we needed help. Listen to your coach people.

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Coldworld's picture

April 28, 2018 at 07:32 am

Attitude, mindset and football smarts are a legitimate part of player assessment and therefore bpa. All draftees are prospects. Whether they play to assessed physical potential in an nfl scheme and against nfl players has as much to do with what is between their ears as their speed, strength, agility etcetera.

Clearly the Packers feel that they got three good character players. That for me is a positive for the new regime if proven true over time.

We got faster in coverage and we got guys that appear to have the potential to cover the outside and middle. Much as I want a take-the-top off receiver, after last year I will be truly grateful if Gutekunst succeeded in that attempt. We got younger and faster on D.

We have a ton of picks. Now let’s see if we can find a diamond on day 3 as a WR and for the edge.

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ScaryGary's picture

April 27, 2018 at 11:01 pm

dear gute, hey man I'm pretty impressed with the draft so far but don't forget about #12 he's the reason ur job is fun. how about drafting that stud receiver from iowa state tomorrow? allen lazard is a monster. the knock on him is a 4.5 40 and he tweeted support of capernick. he's the best receiver in this draft

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John Galt's picture

April 28, 2018 at 08:07 am

"he tweeted support for Kaperstupid."

No wonder he is still available.

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Since'61's picture

April 27, 2018 at 11:03 pm

Packers defense has become faster and more athletic with these 3 picks. How it works out, who knows? But I like the direction Gute and Pettine are going so far.
Now we need some OLs and WRs on Saturday.

Once again Gute has shown that he will utilize any and all means available to improve the team. FAs, draft picks, trading picks, trading players, etc... Looking forward to see what tomorrow brings. Go Gute Go! Thanks, Since '61

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Spock's picture

April 28, 2018 at 04:45 am

Since '61, I agree we need to get some guys for Philbin and the offense to work with today (Saturday). I'm happy with how the draft has gone so far (especially the NO 1st next year) and I'm always amazed at how many fans can be so negative without seeing the players play a single down! This is the time to enjoy the possibilities for me. Like your triple G (= GGG = Go Gute Go!). Go Packers!!!

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RobinsonDavis's picture

April 28, 2018 at 10:39 am

THANK YOU, 61! Although I thought they were going WR or OT by moving up in the 3rd, the simple fact is that we are more athletic with some obvious ballers. Still believe we will move up again in the 4th if we can find a willing trade partner. Wonder if we will take a shot at some Badgers today?

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Since'61's picture

April 28, 2018 at 11:13 am

RobinsonDavis - I'm down for anything the Packers can do to get better players. Moving up into the 4th would be fine. After that they can stay put. I don't see much value moving around in the 5th through 7th rounds unless they take a chance on someone who has fallen a long way. We'll see, but overall I'm happy with the direction Gute has taken so far. Thanks, Since '61

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stockholder's picture

April 27, 2018 at 11:19 pm

I can see Alexander. I can handle J. Jackson. But The pick of Burks was not high priority. The No - Brainer was WR. I don't like this trade up. You trade picks for a starter. Not back ups.

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sonomaca's picture

April 27, 2018 at 11:30 pm

I thought they were trading for Noteboom, who went one pick later. I knew they liked Burks, despite the fact that he’s a pain-in-the-butt “social activist.” That’s the reason why Justin Reid fell. Football is hard enough without these trouble makers fouling things up.

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stockholder's picture

April 27, 2018 at 11:47 pm

Kiper liked this guy. I'm sure he'll make a good fill-in. They now put themselves in a hole at Wr. 2 for 1 is all I see here. Gute made a mistake. He now cannot get a #1 WR to replace Nelson. He's only going to replace back-ups.

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Colin_C's picture

April 28, 2018 at 12:07 am

Because no good receiver has ever been taken past round 3... There's still plenty of good options left, and even if you took a WR at #45, he might not win the starting job right away.

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Since'61's picture

April 28, 2018 at 09:17 am

I seem to remember some guy named Donald Driver taken in the 7th round. Thanks, Since '61

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RobinsonDavis's picture

April 28, 2018 at 10:49 am

Antonio Brown?....6th round

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Three and Out's picture

April 28, 2018 at 04:52 am

Why would he need to get a #1 to replace Jordy? They have Davante. Do people forget he's entering the prime of his career and will only continue to get better, especially with Graham also being a player who deserves solid attention from DB's?
The offense is going to be quite good. Nothing to worry about.

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NickPerry's picture

April 28, 2018 at 06:52 am

Stockholder isn't a fan of Davante Adams...And that's putting it mildly. But I do agree with him to a point, the Packers need a WR and the pickings are getting pretty damn small. St. Brown, Lazard, Ateman, or Hamilton are all possible WR's who could help GB. Personally I'd like to see St. Brown from Notre Dame in GB. A 6'5" WR who runs a 4.48 40 and knows how to use his size would be a great pick. So would Hamilton who many have said is the absolute best route runner in the draft, something 12 demands.

Tyrell Crosby the Guard from Oregon is still sitting there. Most had him going in the 2nd so he represents a value. I doubt he makes it anywhere near 133 which is where the Packers next pick is. IMO they absolutely need to move up to get a O-Linemen or WR earlier than 133. Going from #45 to #133 with just one pick between is a long break. We definitely should get to moving up...More than once.

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stockholder's picture

April 28, 2018 at 07:06 am

I would have traded up for st Brown. I think thats why I didn't care for the 3rd round pick. (Burk)- I know he's liked and has promise. He fits. But we need points on the board. 101 could have been St Brown or Cain. And I believe the 5th was a keeper too. St Brown is considered a #1 Wr in the long run.

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TKWorldWide's picture

April 28, 2018 at 09:07 am

I think St. Brown got his name from Key and Peele.

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stockholder's picture

April 28, 2018 at 07:00 am

Because it took him 4 years to get Better! Prime? I still think he could blow -up. He showed hands of stone earlier. Regardless An Upgrade was needed. I'm not the one who wrote we need more speed to help Drop vante.

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Three and Out's picture

April 28, 2018 at 09:31 am

Dropvante, seriously? Guy had the dropsies one year in his career, other than that he's been nothing but money. How many guys have you heard of in the huddle telling Rodgers to run the same play and hit him again and he'll catch it, and for Rodgers to do it and for it to work? C'mon, I know everyone has their opinions, be it positive or negative for all players, but hating on Davante is ridiculous. He's legit.
Just have to ask, do you feel like he stole Jordy's job and that's why you don't like him?

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stockholder's picture

April 28, 2018 at 09:48 am

By your own words. HAD!

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Spock's picture

April 28, 2018 at 11:22 am

"By your own words. HAD!" Uh, A. Rodgers admitted he had a bad pass on the first throw and was going to put it in the 'right' place the 2nd time which he did and Davante caught it. So, NOT 'had". :)

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Three and Out's picture

April 28, 2018 at 01:32 pm

Still waiting for your answer to my question. Since you ignored it, I get the feeling I know the answer.

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John Galt's picture

April 28, 2018 at 08:08 am

Kiper? Oh, please.

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John Galt's picture

April 28, 2018 at 08:13 am

Kiper? Oh, please.

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Colin_C's picture

April 28, 2018 at 12:02 am

Yes, it's so terrible that he's doing something with his life outside of football...

I bet you I'd disagree with him on a lot of issues, but I will respect anyone who legitimately cares about the well being of their fellow man, regardless of political stance. Everything I've read says he's exactly that king of guy.

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fthisJack's picture

April 28, 2018 at 09:23 am

i think Burks is> Ryan. for those that think another fast ILB isn't a big need...think again. how was the coverage over the middle last year? was Ryan in there on 3rd downs? i think this guy can help the defense playing next to Martinez!

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

April 28, 2018 at 11:13 am

Actually, I think Ryan was better in coverage than in run defense. But your point is still valid: the defense over the middle needs improvement. I thought Burks and Noteboom both should have gone mid to late 3rd round. I admit that since I think they are similar talents, and I am more concerned about RT, I'd have selected Noteboom, but I like Burks just fine. I don't know what Pettine is going to run and what he needs just yet. Josh Jones may or may not be playing much at ILB. If not, Burks makes lots of sense.

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4thand10's picture

April 28, 2018 at 09:44 am

There was a team ( I forgot which one) that drafted a tackle that could run the ball, catch passes AND play tackle. I was thinking to myself that would have been a perfect TE addition. I was scratching my head a bit on the LB selection yesterday I'm still a bit baffled on the no WR selected yet but maybe it will be revealed "why" eventually.

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Since'61's picture

April 28, 2018 at 11:18 am

Stockholder - I was expecting a WR in the 3rd as well. But Burks should be better than either Ryan or Joe Thomas. to me that would make him the starter next to Martinez and improve our athleticism at ILB. If he can cover the middle of the field that alone immediately improves our defense.

It's very frustrating to watch no-name QBs convert 3rd and longs through the middle of our defense every week. Who knows what Burks will turn out to be but at least maybe he gives us a chance to cover the middle of the field for the first time since 2010. Thanks, Since '61

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Otto's picture

April 28, 2018 at 12:10 am

There's an immense disparity between the O and D on this team.
The O could use another WR and Oline help. But they can still field Adams, Graham, Montgomery, Cobb, Jones, Williams and Allison. Good, not the greatest show on turf, but add 12 and they will score points.
The D had to have an injection of speed and quality in the DB/LB area. They got it.
I think the coaching staff believes they will get a pass rush out of the Dline and the OLBs if the WR & TE are running free all over the field.
My thought going forward: they don't need 11 draft picks. Move up in the 4th and 5th and get some higher quality guys.

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Tundraboy's picture

April 28, 2018 at 01:10 am

Yes!

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Tundraboy's picture

April 28, 2018 at 01:09 am

Looking forward to some defensive scoring. Man has it been missing for far too long. Along with getting off the field on third downs. This Defense could actually be really good. Now we need a RT, WR and a TE would be nice.

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Spock's picture

April 28, 2018 at 04:51 am

"defensive scoring" . Wow, it's been so long I almost needed to Google that, lol. If Pettine is half as good as advertised he now has talent to work with. I expect a lot of picks for the offense today (Saturday). I almost said, "offensive picks" but that really wouldn't have been right. :)

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Michael Hughes's picture

April 28, 2018 at 01:32 am

Looks like Aaron Rodgers is our offence ...

I think Spriggs is the only player left on the offense drafted by packers on the first two days of a draft on their rookie deal. Whereas we have at least 9 of them on defence.

The offense is getting old and lacks talent.

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dobber's picture

April 28, 2018 at 08:28 am

"The offense is getting old and lacks talent"

Old? No. The key player on the offense is getting old, yes. Besides ARod and Graham Cobb's the oldest player on the unit, and even though he's been around for awhile, he's still only 27.

Talent? Could definitely use a boost.

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kidflash's picture

April 28, 2018 at 10:25 am

Old? Rodgers, Graham, and Hendricks are the only ones over 30. No talent ? The best QB in football, a top 5 TE , a top 10 WR , a top 5 LT, a top 5 RT when healthy, a top 5 C, and a nice 1 2 punch at RB.

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dobber's picture

April 28, 2018 at 10:29 am

I'd missed Kendricks. Thanks!

In my defense, he was truly forgettable in 2017...

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MITM's picture

April 28, 2018 at 02:03 am

I was initially VERY upset about passing on Derwin or Edmunds at 14. I was so pissed off i dismissed Jaire (who i did like and would have been fine with at 14 had those 2 top 10 talents not had fallen in our laps) and also the 2019 first (theres a Super Bowl to compete for THIS season after all, right?).

Cooler heads prevailed after Jackson fell to us. Thats when i took a step back and said hey you know what its not the worst thing in the world to field 3 very young, talented corners for once. THEN i started to be greatful that we also added a first in 2019.

I get that people were caught by surprise with the Burks pick. We need to get faster at receiver, I get it. I agree. But lets not forget what our RB position is looking like for next year as well. Also the whole Jimmy Graham thing. There are still speedy receivers to be had. Offensive line I think we got a good look at what we had last year due to all the injuries we got a look at pretty much everyone. Mccray was a big find for us. Murphy. I dont think offensive line is any more or less a need than receiver as it stands and again, there is picks still to be made.

I like the Oren Burks pick. I like that we saw something that made us feel the need to trade up to secure him. Nobody is to say who will be available when. Thats silly to think you can have any more than just an opinion in that regard. Martinez needs a compliment thats how the ILB position works in a 3-4 and that compliment is either a coverage guy or an unusually talented inside blitzer (which is usually hard to find.)

Burks is fast, hes SIX FOOT THREE ( which is a tremendous asset to have in an ILB you have in coverage) and he played in the SEC. A lot of teams supposedly were very high on him and so was Mayock, who I trust implicitly. This kid has his best football ahead of him and played so many different spots at Vanderbilt in so many whacky packages that focusing JUST on ILB is going to make an immediate difference. Agree to disagree I guess but I like the pick alot and this draft haul as a whole so far also.

Alexander (Mayocks #1 corner) Jackson (PFF #1 corner) Burks (6'3 ILB that can jump like a receiver and flip his hips like the safety hs was, who willingly sticks his face into you upon contact) and a 2019 #1? I cant complain.

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sonomaca's picture

April 28, 2018 at 07:17 am

I’m sure people were raving about Randall (athlete!), Rollins (upside!) and Ryan (steal!) in 2015. Have to wait and see.

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Coldworld's picture

April 28, 2018 at 07:45 am

I still hold that Ryan has a role as a run defender. Now we have a coverage backer to add to the mix the group is better.

Randall was not received euphorically. We wondered if he was really a cb. All in , he might have been a really good safety. Seems we admitted we played him out of position. We will see now another will make him a safety.

Rollins was even more of a head scratcher and is, in my view, even less of a corner and more obviously better suited to safety.

Both had the draftniks expressing skepticism. Hardly comparable to this year

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Since'61's picture

April 28, 2018 at 09:33 am

Pro Football weekly had Jackson as the #1 CB in the draft and Alexander as the #3 corner in the draft . Gute grabbed up both of them plus a #1 pick in 2019.

With Burks and the 2 CBs our defense is faster and more athletic. With defensive pieces in place and 2 #1s next season we can draft a top OL and a breakout WR or maybe Rodgers eventual replacement. If Pettine's defense improves this season look for offense first in the 2019 draft couple with FA signings with the extra cap space. Expect this team to look very different in 2-3 seasons. Whether or not that is soon enough to get another SB for Rodgers we'll see.

Maybe Gute has more surprises in store for us today. Thanks, Since '61

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

April 28, 2018 at 11:22 am

Burks is 6' 3", had a 39.5" vertical at the combine and has a 79.5" wingspan (80th percentile for OLB, not ILB). Put that in your pipe and smoke it!

There are going to be some passes not thrown due to his size, leaping ability and wingspan.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

April 28, 2018 at 11:22 am

Burks is 6' 3", had a 39.5" vertical at the combine and has a 79.5" wingspan (80th percentile for OLB, not ILB). Put that in your pipe and smoke it!

There are going to be some passes not thrown due to his size, leaping ability and wingspan.

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Andrew Lloyd Peth's picture

April 28, 2018 at 03:13 am

Okay, it's official: I LOVE OUR NEW GM!!!!!!

My goodness. Dude gets a fast, mirroring CB in Round 1, then grabs another CB I was worried we'd take in Round 1--at pick 45! Outstanding! Finally, he adds big athleticism and cover/run support ability (two things we lack) at LB in Round 3...

...and did I mention he achieved all this while snagging New Orleans's 1st rounder next year?

Omigosh, GUTE IS THE MAN!

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NickPerry's picture

April 28, 2018 at 07:05 am

How in the hell did ALP get ANY dislikes for that comment. COMMON people, hate the comment not the man making the comment!!

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stockholder's picture

April 28, 2018 at 07:11 am

True

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Coldworld's picture

April 28, 2018 at 07:50 am

Because he didn’t get a wide receiver and edge rusher as well to fix every deficit or missed on their particular draft crush.

Some folks seem to have forgotten our defensive anguish or that we had 12 picks not 12 picks on day one. At least now there is hope that we won’t be the sieve we have been against any team that can score fluently, constantly negating everything our O did.

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Since'61's picture

April 28, 2018 at 09:43 am

Nick - as you know people are upset because Gute didn't pick the players they wanted because they know so much more than Gute and the scouts. Or because they know that Gute panicked and gave up a 3rd rounder to get Alexander and on and on.

IMO for Gute to come away with the #1 and #3 ranked CBs (per Pro-Football Weekly) and NOs #1 pick for 2019 is one hell of a job. Plus an ILB who can cover with our 3rd pick could go a long way to improving our defense. Yes, we still need a pass rusher, a speed WR and OL, but the dislike voters don't seem to realize that you can't draft 9-10 players in the first round. Maybe after they watch another 10-12 seasons they'll get it, then again maybe not. Thanks, Since '61

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dobber's picture

April 28, 2018 at 09:55 am

Spot on: you can't draft everyone. Still some developmental edge players on the board: Sweat, Okoronkwo, Mata'afa, Fitts.

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Since'61's picture

April 28, 2018 at 11:21 am

Dobber - it's time for an overdue cookie for you at least. Or maybe a nice stack of pancakes or both. Thanks, Since '61

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Spock's picture

April 28, 2018 at 11:33 am

NP, Heck even I have been giving ALP 'likes' for his comments this draft and that's somewhat rare for me, lol.

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NoNonsense's picture

April 28, 2018 at 06:04 am

This has been a great draft so far basically getting 3 1st round picks (if you consider Jackson as a potential 1sr rounder) and a player at a position we havent drafted higher than the 4th round since AJ Hawk, ILB.

If we are just going off of Mayocks top 100 we got his:

12th overall player at 18 added a 1st round pick next year
44th overall player at 45
79th overall player at 88

And still have 8 picks to work with on day 3. Really wish we could have kept pick 101 and gave up another 5th but the 4th and 5th rounds have worked out pretty well for the Pack recently getting Micah Hyde, Mike Daniels, David Bakhtiari, Corey Linsley as standouts in those 2 rounds

Heres an updated picks mock I posted a couple days ago, would be nice to land a few of these guys on this list. Just one mans opinion though.

133 Troy Fumagali TE Wisconsin
138 Shaquem Griffin LB UCF
172 Holten Hill CB Texas
174 Akrum Wadley RB Iowa
207 J'Mon Moore WR Missouri
232 Marquez Valdez Scantling WR USF
239 Austin Ramesh FB Wisconsin
248 Tanner Carew LS Oregon

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stockholder's picture

April 28, 2018 at 07:20 am

Haynes OLB, Watson WR Kirkwood WR, Jamerson S- 2 of the 4 today

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fthisJack's picture

April 28, 2018 at 09:34 am

we still have a ton of picks and remember our 4th and 5th round picks from last year that killed it running the football. no need to panic...still good football players still out there. i like your list of available guys....especially Griffin and Moore and Hill.

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Qoojo's picture

April 28, 2018 at 09:37 am

They have to get some decent OL depth. I predict at least 1 offensive lineman before the 6th round.

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sonomaca's picture

April 28, 2018 at 07:23 am

This is where Ted earns his money. He’s been sitting in the rain watching the Midwest Iowa -Northeast Tennessee Junkyard Bowl looking for the next diamond.

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Bure9620's picture

April 28, 2018 at 10:05 am

So I just watched Burks tape against Alabama and the pick is starting to grow on me. He moved all over but looks like he predomantly played the will spot. Alabama completely dominated Vanderbilt on the LOS but Burks make about 3 plays in the backfield in the first half including a sack. Saban then in the 2nd half brought help in form of chip blocks with an extra back or tight end, where Burks was essentially double teamed. Nice blitzer. Did not see him in coverage much, hope it is not square peg round hole. Pettine's scheme without a doubt is the reason for this pick. Burks could play almost a bobby wagner role in the a 4-3 under alignment which Seattle used often.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

April 28, 2018 at 09:34 am

There is a lot of tape of the Jets under in Pettine in 4-3 under. I love the flexibility of fronts you can run with that personnel.

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

April 28, 2018 at 07:47 am

I see this draft being all about getting players for Pettine's system. It was the same deal when they drafted a NT and OLB/pass rusher (Raji, Matthews) for the "new defensive coordinator." Pettine's "most important position" is shut-down CBs (remember Revis?)
Pettine wants 3 outstanding CBs, and the Packers should have that now.

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Qoojo's picture

April 28, 2018 at 09:34 am

I like the draft so far. Defense was a priority because of the obvious and Pettine said I need at least this <insert player types> to field a somewhat decent defense.

Incoming picks for offense today. Maybe at least a WR, 2 OL, and TE. Plus more players that caught their eye.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

April 28, 2018 at 09:36 am

I hope more OL soon. They really need a Tackle prospect.

I hope Slingin Gute tries to get as many 4-5 picks as is reasonable.

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Packmaniac's picture

April 28, 2018 at 09:50 am

The 2015 draft was the elephant in the room, and I think Gute has felt compelled to confront It head on early in the process. Randall and Rollins then, Alexander and Jackson now. Leadfooted Jake Ryan then, fast cover linebacker Oren Burks now. Are they the right guys? Who the hell knows? That’s for Father Time to reveal. So far, this has been about mirroring the 2015 train wreck in an undo-the-damage way. Is it optimum to have to do that? Hell no, but train wrecks are train wrecks, and at some point ya gotta clean up the mess (or try to, anyway)

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golfpacker1's picture

April 28, 2018 at 10:28 am

I like the picks so far. Burks was on our radar,finally a faster linebacker. We ignored this position for5 years. The thing I am bummed about is losing our 3rd round pick. yesterday teams made hay by trading back in 2 and 3. we couldn't and had to spend a very valuable 1st pick in 4th round. That pick could have got us another in the 4th and maybe more. Losing these picks lost us maybe 3 more really good players especially in the 2nd and 3rd. We would have gotten an edge rusher of Hubbard or the USC guy. Plus anything else we wanted,oline,tight end,running back,WIDE RECEIVER. We still have the first pick of the 5th round and if we tgrade back a little we could get 2 more 5ths or 6ths for trade bait or a flyer on talent.
I like the UNI receiver and maybe Lazard from ISU as a move tight end. A lot of good work can still be done and we have 2 first rounders next year. The later one will net us the extra 2nd and 3rd rounders e should have had this year. Stay optimistic Packer fans!

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Chuck Farley's picture

April 28, 2018 at 12:47 pm

One analyst I read yesterday said it best: 'The packers again wasted another draft trying to fix a poor pass defense'. "They keep making the same mistakes over and over again by not fixing the problem the first time".

Boy do I agree with that. I mean King? Two major shoulder surgeries in college and we take the guy in the second. and he re-injures his shoulder. This guy may be done career wise already? There is a reason why no one is picking the corners and safeties we are. They were injury prone.

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