He's not the answer, but the roster is better today than is was yesterday.

The only problem with this argument is, they kept the guy around for a LONG time, so somebody in the organization thought it wasn't the DC's fault the defense was gawd awful. Somebody, or multiple people in the organization, thought it was the players that weren't any good. Are all those management personnel gone from the organization now, because all the players certainly aren't?

I expect the Defense to be better, but I doubt it's going to develop 3-4 all-pro's we didn't know we had. Players will still get injured and 2nd, 3rd and 4th stringers will be playing at some point. You can count on that.

Like AJ Hawk, Capers was finally let go 5 years to late. Pack could have hired Wade Philips, Lovie Smith, and Pettine during that time and shared the load with the O to get a chance for another Lombardi.

Amazing how everyone now agrees about Capers but if you criticized him over the last five years there were multitudes of defenders blasting those who said he was a disaster. Wonder where the defenders are now? As to McCarthy keeping him on, it made absolutely no sense.

Stockholder while this is true, MM had to play with the cards he was dealt regarding roster. That being said it was he who kept Capers around for IMO give or take 5 years too long. It was MM who wanted full control of the offense following his firing of Clemens and developed a stale playbook with predictable play calling. Now, MM has the conditions he wants. If he screws it up now he has no one to blame but himself. Not to say I think he will, as long as he let's Philbin run the offense and he does his job as HEAD - I repeat - HEAD coach.

Stockholder a few things:

1. MM would not have brought someone back from his past that was proven highly successful here without giving him the power to recreate a playbook. BG and MM have made it quite clear that the offense will be run differently. All that said, even if MM maintains play calling duties, at least the playbook won't be bland.

2. It does not make sense to me that TT would have gone over MM in arranging his staff when I am 99% sure TT and Capers didnt see eye to eye on personnel. That would be extremely untraditional first of all, and would have been a statement of high distrust for his head coach. There is no convincing me of that because they were consistently on different pages, anyway.

3. Sitton was let go for Lane Taylor to step in as a cheaper younger option. That's really it...and that move has panned out nicely. Lang I can't really say the same for. I'm not here to defend Ted.

4. I don't know what you've heard since Capers left, but I've only heard of players throwing him under the bus since he left. Be it Randall who (made his statements as a Packer) or even Blake Martinez and HHCD who did it more professionally and almost through subquoting. Of course these players are gonna back their coach when hes above them. Now that hes gone it's flipped...

I agree that signing House gives us flexibility in the top round(s). It would be great if someone like Denzel Ward fell to 14 otherwise picking at 14 maybe "no-man's land". If we are looking for a CB early then there should be good options in the top 40. I could see us moving down in this draft to get better value in the 20s and top of 2nd round.

Overall, we will have enough potential to improve this secondary. The change of defensive coaches and scheme alone should help. A little more pass rush and added talent to the secondary will go a long ways to improving this defense. I also would like to see Clinton Dix play better ball. Without him stepping up we may be more worried about the safeties rather than the corners.

Agreed on all points, RC. This and Williams was predictable and smart. Not as good as Fuller would have been. But smart nonetheless. I have a feeling that the CB room isn't done being added to yet....

Of the CBs after King, Williams, and House I like the potential of Rollins and Pipkins to rise.

Rollins is still only starting his 4th year playing CB in college and pros (1 year in college, 3 injury riddled seasons in the pros). He just needs to stay healthy.

Pipkins flashed both "can do" and "will do" ability and attitude.

House means as much to me as he did to the other 31 teams--nothing.

As for the 14th pick, I hope we either move up for a pure corner (Ward), an impact safety (James, Fitzpatrick), or a freakinsh D-Lineman (Vea). None of those players is likely to drop to #14.

If we stay put, I like a pure pass rusher like Landry or a project like Davenport (dude doesn't bend, but what a freak).

Otherwise, trade down and take someone like Vander Esch or Alexander.

Great points RC! I feel like I agree with you pretty much 100% of the time :-)

Another thing to keep in mind is that we could make a play for Breeland after the draft. Assuming we take two CB's in the draft, the defensive back room could look something like:
CB1 - Breeland
CB2 - King
CB3 - Williams
CB4 - High Draft Pick
CB5 - House
CB6+ Pipkins, Rollins, Low Draft Pick, Waters, New UDFA's

Not too shabby, depending on who those draft picks are.

Well if we are gonna take it to a black and white world with no gray area, where one is right and the other is wrong no ifs ands buts or inbetween...I think you are off here and there isn't much I can do about that. But that's alright! because this is not that kind of world.

All fans also need to realize that despite what they want or think, none of the Rookies the Packers draft this year are going to start. If they're good enough, they'll play, in a rotation, if not, they won't until they become good enough or we end up with another injury riddled season and they have to start.

Most of the decent CBs and Pass Rushers probably will be gone by the end of Round 3. Round 4 is when we need to look at TEs or WRs.

Agreed. The projections are building in tempo and the Packers have positioned themselves to take the BPA for their needs. I would not be surprised to see the Packers position themselves for an additional second round pick and/or a 3rd at this point, too. Not in any particular order, but folks here seem to point towards edge, a boundry CB, Strong Safety, WR, & OT as early needs. I also have ILB, TE, back-up center, long snapper, punt returner as others I am expecting in the Packers' day 3 picks.

Regardless, I am fine with Packers staying where they are with their draft position, but imagine if they were able to trade back slightly in the 1st round and garner another pick in the top 80. In such a scenario the Packers could have 5 choices in the top 101 (or better) picks, and potentially address these needs.

U are right on with this post. Pass rush key to a good secondary and good defense. U can some best corners in the NFL and they don't have a good pass rush and have cover for 4-5 seconds they will get beat. I don't care how good your secondary is if u don't have a pass rush.

No way, He'll still command to much money and is a dick.

Absolutely YES! Rodgers will tame him.

It would cost the Packers another player...Bulaga or maybe Cobb...to ink him to a multiyear deal. I think he'll be looking for that kind of deal, first. Of course, he might come affordably on a one-year deal to ramp up to a bigger payday in 2019, and he might want to do that with #12. He would immediately step into a role where he'd get a lot of snaps with the Packers.

I'm not saying they should sign him, but I could understand why they would take a look. You have to ask yourself whether he's worth the trouble and whether he can still run. I don't think he ultimately gives them what they need in an outside WR: he's always been more physical than fast. But he would step in and could challenge Adams for WR1.

To much money. They may end up with Ridley @14 regardless. Right now the packers will have to take Landry, Davenport, or Ridley. Ridley is the higher rated player. The packers took a WR at #1 in 2002. (Javon Walker.) Just saying Gute may think Ridley is the #1 need now. That just might be a good comparison.

Did you watch him at all last season? He drops too many balls and can't stay healthy. I can't believe Gute would waste money on him. Nobody in the NFC East wants him...and they should know...they all play Dallas twice each season.

Dump Cobb, one of AR's other favorite players. Bring in a head case that might turn out to be another M. Bennett? If he could be trusted to play and not disrupt the whole locker room, maybe. After last years debacle, I don't trust it much. I could be wrong and maybe it would work. He may not be the fastest but he is a nightmare to cover. I'm not a fan of diva WR's but if he helps bring a SB, I'll buy his jersey lol.

Finwiz: Dallas life style vs. Green Bay life style? Not actually a match. No way it works.

Usta: cap money by teams. We have very little. Other teams are still loaded. My question is Why? Response fans! Four letters: Ball.