Packers hire Boston College coach Jeff Hafley as defensive coordinator

Hafley made his NFL coaching debut with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and worked with the Browns and 49ers before becoming a defensive coordinator at Ohio State. 

 

Matt LaFleur is hiring Boston College head coach Jeff Hafley to be his third defensive coordinator:

Despite coming from the college ranks, Hafley has NFL coaching experience.

In 2012, Hafley made his NFL coaching debut with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and worked with the Browns before becoming a defensive coordinator at Ohio State. 

 

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Starrbrite's picture

January 31, 2024 at 05:36 pm

“Who the hell is Vince Lombardi?”
…and who the hell is Jeff Hafley?
Actually I like it—a new day for the Green Bay defense.
Go Packers!!!

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DrMixerGED's picture

January 31, 2024 at 06:28 pm

I don’t know anything about college football, but I know this is a name I haven’t heard, here or anywhere else.

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

January 31, 2024 at 10:24 pm

Is that bad? Had you heard of Mike McCarthy when he was hired? Had you heard of Matt LeFleur when he was hired?

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nagawicka's picture

February 01, 2024 at 03:46 am

Yes. McCarthy was fairly well known to Packer fans.

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Ima Payne's picture

January 31, 2024 at 10:49 pm

Kill us all now.

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Deech12's picture

January 31, 2024 at 05:37 pm

Yes!!!

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Cheesey51's picture

January 31, 2024 at 05:41 pm

DC for BC or OSU? ?

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dobber's picture

January 31, 2024 at 05:49 pm

Co-DC at OSU got him the BC gig.

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BAMABADGER's picture

January 31, 2024 at 05:57 pm

HC at BC.... meh record
OSU D-Coord.

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13TimeChamps's picture

January 31, 2024 at 05:42 pm

This should be interesting. Let's hope for the best.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 31, 2024 at 05:43 pm

He was a college WR, and he's worked with DBs and as a secondary coach. He's been in the NFL for about 10 years, a lot of 2 year stints, and he started as an assistant DB coach and worked his way to DC in 10 years. So somebody must have thought he was doing a good job because he got promoted several times.

He doesn't have nearly the experience that his predecessor did, but perhaps his youthful energy and new ideas will help improve our defense. I'm glad we got a guy with a background with the secondary, because that's where most of the work on defense is going to have to ta ke place.

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Starrbrite's picture

January 31, 2024 at 06:02 pm

That’s how I feel LH—some youthful energy and a new face.

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Minniman's picture

February 01, 2024 at 12:33 am

He's clearly been brought in to get the secondary cohesive again (links are emerging of past colleagues and players recounting his strong belief in press coverage and sure tackling).

I hope that this doesn't mean that he neglects the D line and edge setting.

I'll have to try and dig up some of those 2019 OSU games.

With the above said, the current vogue in the NFL is for pulling OL, motions and blocking TE\WR's. Navigating traffic and open field tackling prowess are now (again!) critical tasks for LB's and Secondary.

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murf7777's picture

February 01, 2024 at 07:53 am

Keep in mind, the OSU defense was Matteson’s. That said, I’m sure he had input and learned from the experience.

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LambeauPlain's picture

February 01, 2024 at 10:12 am

Hafley did earn national award for top coaching assistant for his year at OSU.

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Swisch's picture

January 31, 2024 at 06:28 pm

As I understand it, the new head coach for the Seahawks is a young defensive genius recently in the college ranks at Michigan but lately defensive coordinator for the Ravens.
What I'm hoping is that they think this guy from Boston College has an extraordinarily high level of creativity and general competence on the defensive side of the ball, that they're going under the radar to get the next breakthrough coach just needing this opportunity with the Packers to display his brilliance.
I also hope he's prone to blitzing and disdains three-man rushes.
I'm looking forward to hearing what the staff and fans here at CheeseheadTV think about this move.

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 31, 2024 at 07:55 pm

He's a 4-3 guy. LaFleur is moving the D out of a rut. This guy can coordinate the secondary and let Montgomery control the front end. Gutedkunst has to hit on the right guys to fit the cover CB, Free Safety, DT and a speedy edge rusher. Quite a few RBs in the middle rounds. He knows Pettine's Slot blitz schemes A'la Jaire and Savage who will be replaced.

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nagawicka's picture

February 01, 2024 at 04:15 am

The guys they need are there this year and Gute will have the option to draft 2 at each need position-- Hoping he trades to move up and down to get a bunch of difference makers

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Packerpasty's picture

February 01, 2024 at 12:16 pm

Yes, and not projects like Van Ness...impact players year one...other teams find them...

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Minniman's picture

February 01, 2024 at 01:15 pm

Remember, he was on a snap count this year.

And if you go back and look at his tape, you will see a guy who's able to shed his block and get to the RB.

FWIW, with the vogue of pulling OL and way better blocking from WR\TE I saw a number of fancied edge rushers have really quiet games (especially against the Packers).

Teams mix it up now and rarely leave their OT's "on an island".

LVN will be fine. If he unselfishly keeps setting the edge and can shed a block, then he will be part of something better than an individual alone can achieve.

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Bitternotsour's picture

January 31, 2024 at 09:53 pm

The young defensive genius from the Ravens was at the bottom of the league for blitz percentage <17%. The Ravens beat teams defensively by funneling them into the strength of their roster (the middle of the field). No gimmicks.

Also, the Ravens D was 6th in the NFL. Better than competent, but not the best - that would be the 7-10 Jets. #1 defense. Would you trade our year for the Jets year?

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LLCHESTY's picture

January 31, 2024 at 11:56 pm

This is a lie. The Ravens were historically good in some categories this year. Clearly the #1 defense in the league.

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Bitternotsour's picture

February 01, 2024 at 09:31 am

"His defense ranked sixth in EPA per play over the past two seasons, after Baltimore ranked 21st over the two before that." - source Mike Sando - The Athletic

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LLCHESTY's picture

January 31, 2024 at 11:57 pm

You got your wish:

"Nobody loves single-high and middle-of-the-field closed coverages more than Haf," said Mitchell Wolfe, a staff writer for BC Eagle Insider. "Pretty aggressive with blitzing. Mostly a 4-3, even front guy, but has some more diverse stuff in his bag. He loves man coverage."

https://atozsports.com/green-bay/the-anti-joe-barry-what-jeff-hafleys-de...

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murf7777's picture

February 01, 2024 at 08:00 am

We will find out if it’s….be careful what you wish for or not. I think the main thing for a D-Coor is to be flexible and change with the flow of the game. Some press some zone, 3-4 or 4-3 is somewhat irrelevant in today’s NFL. You need to have players who can do either so they can change based on opponents strengths and weaknesses and/or how they are playing the game. It’s a game within a game and I think that is where Barry failed the most.

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dobber's picture

January 31, 2024 at 05:45 pm

Huh.

We'll see if the college gig and positional coaching work has helped him to be proficient as a teacher.

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ChrisD's picture

January 31, 2024 at 11:47 pm

He’s had a stint in the bigs. He knows what he’s up against.

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BAMABADGER's picture

January 31, 2024 at 05:45 pm

Our new D Coordinator is Jeff Hafley the former HC at Boston College?????? 4 year HC record at BC is meh.

From ESPN

"The future of the Packers proved a significant allure to Hafley, as they have a strong young core and bright future. He's a longtime friend of Packers coach Matt LaFleur and long-timer admirer of the Packers franchise."

I'll keep an open mind for now.

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13TimeChamps's picture

January 31, 2024 at 05:59 pm

"He's a longtime friend of Packers coach Matt LaFleur and a long time admirer of the Packers"

Being LaFleur's friend seems to carry unusual weight in his hires. Damn, I hope this works out but I can't hide an uneasiness with this hire.

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Swisch's picture

January 31, 2024 at 06:35 pm

I agree, 13TC, about the uneasiness.
It could be a good thing that the new guy is a longtime friend of LaFleur, but my first reaction to reading it was to cringe.
On the plus side, LaFleur is showing signs that he may be the wunderkind we had hoped for as for as offensive innovation; let's hope this guy is the next big thing on the defensive side of the ball.
Let's also hope that, even as their futures with the Packers are now closely linked, that both of them are leaders of men.

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Strat's picture

January 31, 2024 at 09:23 pm

That was the last thing I wanted to see, but I expected it. I guess I've had it with this "I want to coach with my buddy, I want to play with my buddy" B.S. Big swing and a miss with JB, hope this isn't big strike two because he's going to be here for multiple years. After he hires JB based on everything known about him, my confidence in his ability to evaluate is not very high

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Strat's picture

January 31, 2024 at 09:24 pm

That was the last thing I wanted to see, but I expected it. I guess I've had it with this "I want to coach with my buddy, I want to play with my buddy" B.S. Big swing and a miss with JB, hope this isn't big strike two because he's going to be here for multiple years. After he hires JB based on everything known about him, my confidence in his ability to evaluate is not very high

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Packerpasty's picture

January 31, 2024 at 07:17 pm

Comes cheaper than the others for sure...and MLF's pal..what a shocker...

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ChrisD's picture

January 31, 2024 at 11:58 pm

Yeah. Here’s the usual hater’s coming out. Hahaha. So predictable.

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Minniman's picture

February 01, 2024 at 12:38 am

not sure if I agree with you PP.

MLF knows that he can't whiff again on DC - not with the offense primed to challenge - and the Packers secondary is littered with underperforming talent.

Lets hope he's a CB\S "whisperer"

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croatpackfan's picture

February 01, 2024 at 03:50 am

"From ESPN
"The future of the Packers proved a significant allure to Hafley, as they have a strong young core and bright future. He's a longtime friend of Packers coach Matt LaFleur and long-timer admirer of the Packers franchise.""

They never worked together. They were hired by same NFL franchises, but never at the same time. Jeff Hafley worked under Salah (many here wanted Robert Salah, didn't you?) and was at 49ers when MLF brother was there as passing assistent coach (I think it was his title then). He worked with Mike Pettine and under several different coordinators. His coaching job never cross the path with MLF's one. After all, NFL coaching community is small and probably everybody knows 80 to 90% of coaches and coordinators...

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LambeauPlain's picture

February 01, 2024 at 10:38 am

There is no doubt he is another longtime, good friend of Matt...similar to Barry. I don't think having the same HC at the same time means much.

More significant...they ran in the same circles. And I am certain guys like Saleh, Shannihan, and even Pettine were key parts of Hafley's vetting.

Another crony hire of ML's which he is prone to do... however Hafley already owns a more impressive coaching resume than Barry by far.

And the D will change in GB (more 4-3, press) and investments will be needed in the middle of the field (LB, S). He has shown an ability to adjust to the game in general and on game days specifically.

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TKWorldWide's picture

February 01, 2024 at 05:27 pm

“Keep an open mind for now.”

Why wouldn’t you??

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NFLfan's picture

January 31, 2024 at 05:46 pm

Boston College??
What Division are they in?

Long-term friend of Matt LaFleur? (oh, no)

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 31, 2024 at 06:48 pm

I don't want to hear about a three-year plan, or learning the new system etc. Get this group pointed to the Gold and focus on a SB. This guy is moving into year six. There's no going backward, Win it.

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LeotisHarris's picture

January 31, 2024 at 07:54 pm

"What Division are they in?"

D-I. Big East Conference, same as the Washington Commanders.

"Long-Term friend of Matt LaFleur?"

Yeah, I feel let down, too. He's 44 years old. Barry was 53. When you're working with young men in their 20's is there a perceived difference between a 44 year-old and a 53 year-old? Joe had a lot of energy, remember?

Maybe that's where the recruiting skill set comes in; he's a salesman, and knows a thing or two about play in the secondary. MLFs hiring record leaves much to be desired. Maybe he got this one right?

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Tundraboy's picture

January 31, 2024 at 09:28 pm

Let's hope so. Just don't quite understand their process, what was the rush? Guess Raven and KC guys are staying put. But what do I know.

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packer132's picture

February 01, 2024 at 03:57 am

According to Packer reporter, Tom Silverstein.
@TomSilverstein
FWIW, LaFleur and Hafley aren’t close friends as some have reported. He knows Hafley through his brother, Robert Saleh and Kyle Shanahan, all of whom worked with Hafley. They knew each other but weren’t ever on the same staff or guys who spoke often.

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BA4Pack's picture

January 31, 2024 at 05:50 pm

Typical MLF hire.
I guess we’ll see.
GPG!

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MainePackFan's picture

January 31, 2024 at 06:55 pm

What the hell do we know? I hadn't heard of any the "rumored" candidates anyway. Trust and Verify I always say :)

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LeotisHarris's picture

January 31, 2024 at 07:56 pm

Doveryai, no proveryai, comrade.

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MainePackFan's picture

February 01, 2024 at 05:01 am

da ser.

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ChrisD's picture

February 01, 2024 at 12:01 am

Same haters and doubters out. Like they work in the NFL and know shit. Like they have interviewed candidates. Like they know anything. Pshhhhh

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splitpea1's picture

January 31, 2024 at 05:53 pm

Huh? Talk about a curveball and rolling the dice....

He does have experience as an NFL defensive backs coach, and one of his Tampa Bay units had 21 INTs in 2013.

Apparently he is also a fine college recruiter. Well that will certainly help, won't it, LOL?

And of course he is a longtime friend of MLF. Gee, what a surprise!

I can't say I'm overflowing with enthusiasm with this off the wall hire, but at least we do get some experience coaching a secondary that's going to need it. Otherwise, this seems kind of risky for both the team and the head coach's self-preservation.

I'm sure he'll have a blast breaking down all the film and chuckling at some of Barry's crazy alignments and schemes. I wonder what assortment of new assistants he'll bring along--this will be interesting.

Can't wait to hear from this guy. Maybe he'll give us something to get excited about during the long off-season.

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GregC's picture

January 31, 2024 at 05:56 pm

I've been doing some research. He led BC to a 22-26 record in four seasons and is a good friend of Matt LaFleur. The early returns are not looking good. But I'm just scratching the surface at this point.

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murf7777's picture

February 01, 2024 at 08:11 am

Maybe your research is flawed about being a “good friend”. Be careful what you read and believe. I think a good friend is someone you actually spend a good amount of time together. They have and do spend time at the others house, etc…. My understanding is How Mlf mainly knows Hafley is thru his brother and actual friends. They probably have had prior conversations but that doesn’t equate to “good friends” as you portray. That’s a huge difference.

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Bitternotsour's picture

February 01, 2024 at 08:51 am

"good friend". Most people bitching about MLF acquaintance with and intersectionality have clearly never hired anyone before. I'd even be surprised if they've had a job. I much prefer working with people I like, who fit my culture and who are qualified for the job. Why on earth would you hire someone you don't get along with, or whose style is contrary to what you envision for your team? It's madness.

Color me crazy, but I actually do better work when I'm happy. I'm relatively sure that applies to others.

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LeotisHarris's picture

February 01, 2024 at 06:39 pm

Okay, "but" are they "good friends" and do you "spend time" with them at "each others houses?" Would you spend time with "some" of them "in your yard" or on your patio? Would you "punch" each other in the shoulder and have "inside jokes?" What about "sleepovers?"

All I'm saying is Matt "should" hire complete strangers and never have them over to his house. He should stop making eye contact with subordinates as well.

Oh, yeah, and check your sources, buster!

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Bitternotsour's picture

February 01, 2024 at 08:09 pm

Just a Friend?

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LeotisHarris's picture

February 01, 2024 at 09:25 pm

Biz! Haven't heard that in years. ::fistbump::

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NickPerry's picture

January 31, 2024 at 05:58 pm

Sigh...Well this is interesting. I'm waiting to see exactly who he has as assistants. Assistant Coaches are SO IMPORTANT so I'm curious who this guys brings along. More of the "Who the hell are you"?

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CuttySnark85's picture

January 31, 2024 at 06:28 pm

I wonder if MLF will force him to keep the assistant coaches like he did for Barry?

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DrMixerGED's picture

January 31, 2024 at 06:31 pm

I’ve seen it reported that the rest of the D staff remains.

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Coldworld's picture

February 01, 2024 at 12:42 am

That would not be a good sign, especially if he plans to change the D structure.

As to him, the one thing that I find is that he is supposedly an excellent teacher and communicator with the players. That’s a start. At this point nothing else is really clear enough to me to fo an opinion. Some good signs and some negative ones. I’m going to sit in the fence on this one for a while.

By picking a guy off the radar and who has previously acknowledged friendship, LaFleur is really tying himself yo this pick almost as tightly as possible. I hope he’s got it right, because a bad choice could undermine the talent we have for years.

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NickPerry's picture

February 01, 2024 at 05:52 am

That's horrible. One reason they didn't move on from Barry after the Carolina Game was they had NO ONE on the staff to promote. Not one guy they were comfortable with.

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Coldworld's picture

February 01, 2024 at 10:22 am

Silverstein, I think, has reported that the defensive guys have been told that they can seek other opportunities. That’s typically a sign that some changes will be coming.

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LambeauPlain's picture

February 01, 2024 at 10:53 am

Read that too.

Expect Downard will remain as they have coached together.

Montgomery's ability to remain a D coach is legendary...Hafley is his 4th Packer DC. He hasn't coached a 4 man front in GB, however.

But expect there will be long looks at fits at all the other coaches. Not sure how Olivadotti and Rebrovich fit as current ILB and pass rush specialist coaches respectively going to a 4-3. And Williams may not fit as "passing game coordinator" either.

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Swisch's picture

January 31, 2024 at 06:38 pm

It seems like a defensive coordinator should be able to hire his own assistants, or at least most of them.
I didn't know Barry had to keep the assistants already with the Packers.

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Bearmeat's picture

January 31, 2024 at 05:59 pm

Well, on first blush, it doesn’t make me angry. At least he hasn’t been an abject failure as a DC twice like Barry. And he does have plenty of teaching experience. We’ll see…

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JJB's picture

January 31, 2024 at 06:07 pm

It's time to move on from Lamoron. Fire him and bring in Bill B. I can't just hear the complaining midway into the season. Then I can hear Lamoron making excuses for his friend that he needs a yr. Then after two years of losing the new Packer president fires all of them. So just do it now

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DrMixerGED's picture

January 31, 2024 at 06:33 pm

I downvoted, not because of what you’re trying to convey, whether I agree with it or not, it was due to the fact that name calling and name checking isn’t a valid argument.

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Packers0808's picture

January 31, 2024 at 08:04 pm

Sounds like a certain past president only good for name calling and nothing of substance.

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Irish_Cheesehead's picture

January 31, 2024 at 09:22 pm

Was thinking the same thing. No need for the immature, childish name calling.

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TKWorldWide's picture

February 01, 2024 at 05:26 pm

Oh, yeah, Mr. Poopy Pants??
😉

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LambeauPlain's picture

February 01, 2024 at 10:58 am

I believe that was true of Bob Harlan at all. He never was a name caller and accomplished tremendous, substantive results.

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GregC's picture

January 31, 2024 at 06:07 pm

"Boston College allowed an average of 28.3 points and just under 384 yards per game in 2023 while generating 1.3 takeaways per contest."

Sounds like a lot of points and yards, but the way the college game is played nowadays, I'm not sure how it stacks up against other college defenses.

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DrMixerGED's picture

January 31, 2024 at 06:34 pm

I agree, doesn’t look great. Maybe a college fan could give us some context.

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murf7777's picture

February 01, 2024 at 08:16 am

It doesn’t show good or bad as BC hasn’t been relevant for many years. They just don’t have the resources that other colleges do in their conference, such as Clemson, NC and Florida State and more. Basically, didn’t tear down the program or enhance it.

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Swisch's picture

January 31, 2024 at 06:45 pm

Yikes, that does seem underwhelmingly unimpressive statistically at first glance.
The Packers need a DC who is ready to take the defense to great heights in year one, not someone learning on the job.
I hope this guy is ready to burst onto the scene with defensive creativity and toughness leading to overall dominance, not here mostly to hang out with LaFleur.

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dobber's picture

January 31, 2024 at 07:26 pm

I don't think he called defensive plays and had two co-DCs working under him.

I don't have a lot to verify the calling plays part.

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GregC's picture

January 31, 2024 at 07:29 pm

I found the answer: They were 74th in points per game and 64th in yards per game.

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Qoojo's picture

January 31, 2024 at 08:37 pm

College has no parity and recruiting plays a huge part. When they played tougher more popular recruiting schools in 2023 it appears they got rolled.

Louisville 56 pts
GA Tech 38 pts
Miami 45
Virginia Tech 45 pts

BC defense gave up 188 yards rushing avg per game and 197 yards passing avg per game. Not often you see the rushing yards that high and that close to passing.

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13TimeChamps's picture

January 31, 2024 at 06:07 pm

After all the good will and excitement this year has brought us fans, this news is underwhelming to say the least.

Please prove me wrong Matt and your good friend Jeff. Good luck to you both!

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Qoojo's picture

January 31, 2024 at 08:38 pm

At least he doesn't have long proven track record of failure like Barry, right?

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PackfanNY's picture

January 31, 2024 at 06:10 pm

Gotta trust the Coach on this one. Honestly, I only knew what I read about the other guys anyway. So how can I criticize? I’m going to give the guy a chance. Let’s see if Gute can get him some more players and he can get the D turned around. GPG!

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mnbadger's picture

January 31, 2024 at 06:34 pm

my thoughts exactly.
I do wish it wasn't a friend though.
Leaders that surround themselves with yes men can never get better - too happy with the status quo.
GPG!
PS - Now the pressure is really on Gutey!

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PeteK's picture

January 31, 2024 at 07:37 pm

Or friends have trust and can communicate better.

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Untylu1968's picture

January 31, 2024 at 06:17 pm

Just glad we something new to piss and moan about! The complaints about Love fell to the wayside, so on to the next victim. How about we at least give it a try before we jump off the cliff?

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JerseyAl's picture

January 31, 2024 at 06:25 pm

That's like asking some people to stop breathing.

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DrMixerGED's picture

January 31, 2024 at 06:35 pm

Or the Lions to stop suck….oh wait

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TKWorldWide's picture

January 31, 2024 at 06:26 pm

Nothing like giving the guy a chance…whew!

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Ima Payne's picture

January 31, 2024 at 10:47 pm

Mid season they may be giving him the boot.

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croatpackfan's picture

February 01, 2024 at 03:56 am

You, vikings fans are hoping so. Otherwise, you are screwd!

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TKWorldWide's picture

February 01, 2024 at 05:21 pm

Nah.
This isn’t Carolina!

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Bitternotsour's picture

January 31, 2024 at 06:29 pm

Comfort matters. That he and Matt are approximately the same age, that they have friends in common, and that he can recruit speaks well of his fit. Fit matters.

Will be interesting to see who they retain in the assistants room. Matt didn't fire any assistants.

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Cubbygold's picture

January 31, 2024 at 06:30 pm

When the Packers fired Barry I thought "well, that's the move a team would make if they were serious about winning a Superbowl".

This... doesn't seem like a serious move.

Hoping for the best, but my off-season optimism is definitely getting dialed back now.

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Bitternotsour's picture

January 31, 2024 at 06:35 pm

C'mon, who are you kidding. your offseason optimism was camouflaged dread. Revel in it, it's your default.

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mnbadger's picture

January 31, 2024 at 06:37 pm

let's hope he's the next defensive savant!
We've had a long run of bad coaches, odds are in our favor that he's the next Lombardi
GPG!

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Bitternotsour's picture

January 31, 2024 at 09:42 pm

bad coaches? Pettine was fine, good actually. Capers was a genius. Hugely respected. Slowik I'll give you.

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13TimeChamps's picture

January 31, 2024 at 11:36 pm

Capers was so highly respected he has the distinction of being fired twice as a HC and twice as a DC. Now that's impressive! Like a bad penny, he keeps showing back up.

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LeotisHarris's picture

January 31, 2024 at 06:34 pm

They're saying you sound like an owl.

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stockholder's picture

January 31, 2024 at 06:34 pm

Bringing back Joe Berry as a consultant.?
They played a 4 front at Boston
DE, Nt DT DE.

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dobber's picture

January 31, 2024 at 07:28 pm

Yep. Their base was a 4-2-5, which is about what Detroit was running as their base at the end of the year.

I don't see a lot of odd-front work for him, but he was mostly coaching DBs.

Maybe the change you've been asking for is on the wind...

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stockholder's picture

January 31, 2024 at 08:59 pm

I hope so.

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Coldworld's picture

February 01, 2024 at 10:04 am

Barry ran some true 4:3 too, more so very late this year. However, base is about 20 percent of both NFL and BC’s defensive snaps. Almost no one plays base much more than that.

Hafley has coached in both 3:4 and 4:3, but his calling card is single high safety/Cover 1, 43 percent of plays last year. Press dominant, more blitzes. Accepting the risk of a big play as opposed to bend and not break. He’s not Baltimore aggressive but he’s consistently been willing to attack the catch and blitz and trust his DBs. He does seem to adjust significantly to opponents, including his predilection for single high.

This means we are going to need a serious upgrade at deep S. That becomes a premium position. We don’t have one. I don’t see one in the draft that is remotely ready. That’s going to need a good FA. There are some out there, but that probably eats a chunk of our limited cap. The box type are easier to find at least.

There are things to like in his past, there are some potentially significant red flags, but context and talent level make it hard to decipher. I’m firmly on the fence waiting to see. Who stays among coaches and the shape of the defensive draft and any FA will be very interesting.

I think Quay Walker will potentially blossom snd be used more as he was in college and any Safety will be better than under Barry. I am not sure if he wants a robber type as his box, but it might mean Savage might be back. Brooks might also benefit as a hybrid DE/DL in the more 4:3 looks.

This guy is a teacher by all accounts. That’s a good thing. Whether his hiring is a good thing or is a colossal mistake, I really can’t decipher. It’s going to be interesting. It’s certainly not a safe hire, to the extent that it maybe career defining for LaFleur. He doesn’t seem to be very similar to Barry in terms of temperament. That’s a positive start.

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stockholder's picture

February 01, 2024 at 10:34 am

Deep S needed a upgrade for years.
And Amos got slow.
How do you pay Savage the 7 mil. avg.
for a player rated @15.?
I thought the secondary played better without him.
Yet MLF still put in a good word for him.
I called him a Coward, after his assists went down.
And he looks like a 4.7 guy now.
Imo there are players in this draft that could do better.
I'd trade up for DeJean and put him at safety.

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 03, 2024 at 11:11 am

Savage has to be shown the door. A slot CB with a rd 2-3 grade. He grabs him in lieu of Montez Sweat....

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Bitternotsour's picture

February 01, 2024 at 11:44 am

Contrary to perception, Baltimore only blitzed at a rate of 17%, which is a low in the league. They got it done with scheme and 4 down rushers.

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MooPack's picture

January 31, 2024 at 06:35 pm

Can't say I'm completely surprised. LaFleur seems to want people around him he knows and is comfortable with. Not necessarily bad, but if there is one thing I've learned in my life is to be careful hiring friends. If they aren't doing the job, it's more difficult to discipline them/fire them. It tends to be human nature.

Maybe he can bring in Ravens inside linebackers coach Zach Orr in a lateral+ move if he doesn't get an offer. Get some of that aggressiveness in house.

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NFLfan's picture

January 31, 2024 at 06:44 pm

Matt needs to learn to stand alone and not socialize with subordinates.

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Packerpasty's picture

January 31, 2024 at 07:21 pm

he doesnt seem to want a potential HC around him...insecure?

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dobber's picture

January 31, 2024 at 07:29 pm

If you can run a college program, you can be an interim HC in the NFL. I think having a guy with recent college experience and running the program be a good resource for LaF and the team. Remember Bisaccia has HC aspirations, too.

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BillofAltoona's picture

January 31, 2024 at 06:36 pm

Seems to me some fans are too quick to criticize a choice when the chosen one fails the name recognition test. Matt LaFleur, Jordan Love and Rashan Gary are three who immediately come to mind. How about we wait and see what the man has to offer the Packer D and then pass our judgments?

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SinceLombardi's picture

January 31, 2024 at 06:41 pm

MLF better hope the third time is the charm. I would have went with Martindale, a proven commodity. Got him a few players to fit his style of defense. I saw GB as a real force with him running the defense.
Considering MLF is 0 for assistants in his career, perhaps he’s due.
The Super Bowl window doesn’t stay open long in the era of free agency… let’s hope for the best.

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NFLfan's picture

January 31, 2024 at 06:42 pm

We'll have to hear the whole story...maybe the other candidates declined offers.

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Packerpasty's picture

January 31, 2024 at 07:22 pm

I think you may be right about the declines, or if they didnt decline they asked too much pay....

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Ima Payne's picture

January 31, 2024 at 10:46 pm

They probably saw that many of the dbacks were free agents and that they wouldnt have much to work with and didnt want to screw over their own career suffering through this. Not to mention they want money too.

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11Bravo1p's picture

February 01, 2024 at 12:55 am

You think that potential coaches thought that because Jonathan Ford, Jonathan Owens , Nixon and Darnell Savage were free agents that there was no hope for the defense? Seems unlikely to me.

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juggie5275's picture

January 31, 2024 at 06:52 pm

I"m guessing we got him cheap. My expectations won"t be high, but I hope he at least gives us somewhat of an improvement Hope he can help us in our draft

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dobber's picture

January 31, 2024 at 07:33 pm

He was making $3M at BC. Joe Barry was estimated to be making about that much.

Now found a connex that says he was making $400k at BC. That seems unlikely.

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Swisch's picture

January 31, 2024 at 06:59 pm

I somewhat agree with giving this guy a fair opportunity.
At the same time, it doesn't seem unreasonable to ask LaFleur why out of all the defensive coaches in the world, this was the right guy to get our defense up to the level of a Super Bowl champion in the next season or two (with a big step forward in 2024).
I'd like to hear some "wow" statements about what this guy has done to merit one of the best jobs in the NFL.
***
We the fans are the customers, which to me means not the right of approval, but the right of holding the management of the Packers accountable.
After Barry and Pettine, we have good reason to be wary of supposed expertise.
As a fan, I'm willing to show some deference to the expertise of the management of the Packers, but not to accept what they do blindly and unconditionally.
It's good to ask questions, and even to express concerns.

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13TimeChamps's picture

January 31, 2024 at 07:17 pm

I'm going to go out on a limb and say this guy was on no other NFL team's radar as becoming their DC.

That being said, if it ends up being a home run MLF will look like a genius. If it proves a bad choice, it will be the opposite. Let's hope it's the former.

I'm on record hoping this guy knocks it out of the park.

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Swisch's picture

January 31, 2024 at 07:31 pm

I'm rooting for the new guy, too, but he better be good fast.
If our defense doesn't show significant improvement this upcoming season, then we the fans can rightly show impatience.
That would be true of anyone chosen as our defensive coordinator; but by apparently going to the extreme of obscurity, LaFleur has put even more pressure on himself.
***
We've got a lot of top talent already on our defense, and probably more coming this spring.
As the saying goes, NFL stands for not for long.
That would go for both LaFleur and the new DC.
After the Packers made a great surge this past season to soar into the playoffs, and even got a stunning postseason win, this is no time for dawdling.
I'm rooting for all of our coaches and players to seize the moment.

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Coldworld's picture

February 01, 2024 at 10:37 am

No point in not rooting for him. He’s our DC now. Our success rests on him doing well. Only time will tell if he improves things and whether this was a defensible hiring choice. So we might as well hope that it was since his record is capable of supporting an argument for either but certainty of neither.

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Tundraboy's picture

January 31, 2024 at 09:39 pm

That it is!

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Lphill's picture

January 31, 2024 at 07:17 pm

I would have liked one of those Ravens coaches.

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GregC's picture

January 31, 2024 at 07:24 pm

They may have become unattainable when the Ravens DC was hired as head coach of the Seahawks. One of those assistants could become his DC in Seattle, and the other could become the Ravens' DC.

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LambeauPlain's picture

February 01, 2024 at 11:09 am

Exactly what my sense was too.

While he is Matt's longtime buddy and they ran in the same circles, the new DC has an impressive resume as a successful coach...better than Barry by far.

So for me the glass is Haf full.

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GregC's picture

January 31, 2024 at 07:21 pm

I liked reading the passage below on Packerswire. Jersey Al, are you listening? The first sentence is misleading, though. Hafley was actually co-defensive coordinator for Ohio State, not the sole defensive coordinator:

With Hafley as the defensive coordinator in 2019, Ohio State went from ranking 72nd in yards per play to leading the country in that category. A key teaching point of Hafley’s that season was on tackling, an area where the Packers have been inconsistent at best.

“We don’t just talk about running to the ball,” said Hafley via The Athletic. “To me, the most important thing about tackling is the approach. I got up in front of the whole team, and Ryan had me talking about tackling in front of the whole team.

“I think people spend way too much time just talking about the finish and driving your legs and wrapping up. But people put themselves in such bad positions, where they’re not even close to being in a position to make the play. Everything we do, we just talked about tracking and the angle and the approach and getting yourself in the best position to actually get yourself having a fighting chance to make the tackle. Whether we’re doing a live period or not, we talk about that on every single play.”

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splitpea1's picture

January 31, 2024 at 07:33 pm

This is hopeful! Sounds like a fresh and comprehensive approach to tackling could be coming our way.

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GregC's picture

January 31, 2024 at 08:00 pm

I like the specific point he makes. So many missed tackles are due to the defender not being in the right position to begin with.

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Coldworld's picture

February 01, 2024 at 10:44 am

About 80% is positioning. The better the positioning, not just angle, but body position and momentum, the less form matters, conversely the worse, the more form can save you. It’s harder to teach form these days. It is much more dependent on full speed repetition, but positioning is teachable. Some of that comes from coaching though: are players put in a position that makes positioning attainable regularly? Barry was particularly questionable at that in my opinion.

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Tundraboy's picture

January 31, 2024 at 09:42 pm

Music to my ears!

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The_Justicar's picture

January 31, 2024 at 08:11 pm

I can’t take anything he did at BC and correlate it to NFL DC. He was the head coach at BC with DC and OC under him. His composite talent ratings (college recruiting sites track this) at BC is below average and BC is not a football power so on field results /expectations were to make a bowl and that is it. College head coach skill set doesn’t necessarily translate to the NFL. He was a co DC on a good Ohio state defense but…Ohio state has, unlike BC, an overwhelming talent advantage in 90% of their games so cannot out alot of stock in that either.

…his NFL experience is long ago. Can’t tell if he did a good job or not as it was so long ago. Most of the teams stunk but who really knows what part he played in that.

Friend of ML…huh. I don’t care all that much about that but…if he was NOT a friend if ML, would another coach with this resume get the job? Doubt it.

As someone else posted…he hasn’t failed as an NFL DC like Barry had before being hired. But…I think other potential options would instill more optimism. I also think this hire puts additional scrutiny on ML and his coaching hires. Not pressure, but really opens himself to more criticism if defense doesn’t show vast improvement.

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GregC's picture

January 31, 2024 at 09:12 pm

I looked up the Bucs, Browns, and 49ers for the seasons that Hafley was with them, and not a single one of those teams managed to finish .500 or above. None of the defenses were good either. The 49ers got good the year after he left. Hafley was just coaching defensive backs, so he had a relatively small role. Still, it would be more encouraging if he had been on a successful NFL defensive coaching staff at some point. The one year with Ohio State was the only year he was with an organization that was any more than one game above .500. (In two of his seasons at Boston College, they finished one game above .500.)

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Alberta_Packer's picture

January 31, 2024 at 08:26 pm

I like hidden gems - whether it be players or coaches.

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Ima Payne's picture

January 31, 2024 at 10:45 pm

So do we and were hoping we can find one. LOL

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White92's picture

January 31, 2024 at 08:28 pm

In situations like this, I am always reminded of Cubs GM Jim Frey when he was criticized for hiring his friend Don Zimmer to manage. Frey said, "Well, I have a lot of friends, and not all of them can manage the Chicago Cubs."

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LeotisHarris's picture

January 31, 2024 at 08:53 pm

Aaaaand, Zimmer went on to manage teams that finished 4th in the NL East, lost in the NLCS, and finished 5th in the NL East before he was fired 37 games into his fourth season. Jim Frey only said Zim could manage, he didn't say he could do it well. Here's hoping Matt's BFF can coach well.

I can't remember Zimmer without thinking of Pedro giving him the Ole':

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPS2zQL_uSs

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packer132's picture

January 31, 2024 at 08:30 pm

My first thought was who? He coached the DB's and secondary starting in 2004 in college for a couple of teams before going to the NFL in 2012. Starting with Tampa, he also had experience in Cleveland and San Francisco. He worked for 2 years on the 49ers defense under Saleh. It sounds like a 180 turn from Joe Barry, with frequent blitzing and more man to man instead of zone. One of the BC reporters said he likes the single high deep and Packers should see heavier fronts and more of an attacking style. A new scheme could benefit a few players, especially Alexander and Stokes. Richard Sherman spoke highly of him today, talking about when he played for SF. We can only hope and be happily surprised come next season.

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Ima Payne's picture

January 31, 2024 at 08:32 pm

I hate being right at times. When I went through the list of candidates my thought, these guys are good , in demand and won't come cheap. I bet we end up with someone we all say who? Aka Barry. Dam Why couldn't we get someone who knows how to coach D. Spend the Fn money. Cheap ball brought Barry here and it hasn't left obviously. I still firmly believe LeFleur does thing to appease Gutt and the bottom line

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LLCHESTY's picture

February 01, 2024 at 12:03 am

"I hate being right at times."

Well you're in luck tonight then.

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jhtobias's picture

January 31, 2024 at 08:40 pm

The same people an here ripping on the new DC I can guarantee have no clue about him and these are also the same angry bitter folks who said Jordan Stinks .

You folks who are always negative and have always been wrong should start your own site so you can all complain and be bitter together

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LeotisHarris's picture

January 31, 2024 at 09:52 pm

This you, Jh? Might be a spot for you at the new site if you can clean up your writing a bit. Who's Jordan Stinks?

jhtobias

December 28, 2023 at 02:09 pm

"....yet they have never used him this way since lafraud hire berry . Yes this is lafraud problem berry didnt hire or retainn himself.

I am perplexed how gute has let this go on . He paid jaire big bucks and lafraud is making hom look bad.

I cam only assume murphy is behind this. Playoffs for this team until vikings put up 40 and lafraud says we need to improve lmao this is funnoer than lynn dickeys perm"

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Qoojo's picture

January 31, 2024 at 08:41 pm

At least he isn't a NFL retread. No idea about his scheme so really have to see what he brings. Have to give him a chance. But I really hate the nepotism in nfl.

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NFLfan's picture

January 31, 2024 at 09:26 pm

Que Sera, Sera

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Ferrari-Driver's picture

January 31, 2024 at 09:38 pm

I hope I never see our cornerbacks giving a 10 yard cushion on 3 and 10 again.

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Tundraboy's picture

January 31, 2024 at 09:48 pm

I think our heads would explode if that happens. I'm staying positive. We could be raving about him a year from now. GPG

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harleycops's picture

January 31, 2024 at 09:54 pm

...friend of LaFleuzy, knew him from before, probably in his wedding, blah, blah, blah. I expected a new fresh, relatively unknown face from the NFL. But MLF takes a frat buddy as DC. This Hafley dude better be the answer and I hope he is. PackerNation will watch closely in the offseason, check him out in the draft, observe him in OTAs, interviews, and appearances all the way to training camp in July and beyond. While no one has any clue who this guy is - let's hope he succeeds. In reality, anybody is better than JBarry.

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Ima Payne's picture

January 31, 2024 at 10:43 pm

I read on another post someone from BC said they were dam glad he left. He wasn't though very highly of and suggested he was on the verge of getting fired.

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nagawicka's picture

February 01, 2024 at 04:56 am

Boston Coillege is suddenly filled with football experts now? WTF 'Some guy said' lol even Bears fans wouldn't

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Ima Payne's picture

January 31, 2024 at 10:40 pm

Okay correct me if I'm wrong but he spends two years as d coordinator at one team. Then with that experience he doesnt jump up to a D coaching job with another team but another d coordinator then two years later the same.
So it six years, if I'm counting right he was never thought highly enough to go up the rung to d coach.
So he leaves the NFL who he figures doesnt want him, and goes to BC where he had a so so record at best as hc.
Now after 6 years he doesnt like the fact he cant get the players via portal and all of a sudden is just available for us to save his life?
Why do I get the feeling he called LeFluer not the other way around. You can bet he was a lot cheaper option then the fine individuals we supposedly were interviewing. To me this is total bull shit and were in deep do do next year as this guy tries to figure out how to coach and entire defense in the NFL.

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ChrisD's picture

January 31, 2024 at 11:33 pm

I wholeheartedly applaud Matt Leflore‘s decision. Keep it fresh. Keep it young. Keep it new. Keep it inventive. This guy is no slouch. He’s seen a lot! I think this is going to be fun.

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Gman1976's picture

February 01, 2024 at 01:28 am

This decision is quite the head scratcher due to all the quality candidates that are or were recently in the NFL. Since he apparently wasn't on anyone's radar except for MFL, our head coach's destiny is going to be forever linked to this new hire.

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GB@Germany's picture

February 01, 2024 at 01:43 am

The good: he knows something about tackling
The bad: he wasn`t outstanding succesful so far
The ugly: another friend of MLF
Finally, who cares, as long as we win in New Orleans February next year

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marpag1's picture

February 01, 2024 at 02:03 am

I always say the same thing about coaches like Hafley (and even some that are better known than Hafley):

1) I don't know sh!t about his coaching ability. How would I? Was I on the practice field or in the meeting room with him?

2) I don't think 99.9% of the other people know any more than I do. How would they? Were they on the practice field or in the meeting room with him?

Let's see what he's got.

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PackfanNY's picture

February 01, 2024 at 06:30 am

🎯 Perfectly stated marpag1. NO ONE knows. I loved hearing so and so coached with the Ravens or some other allegedly (I mean they did crash and burn) successful team and think to myself well I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night. Doesn’t mean I can “manage” one.

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Packerpasty's picture

February 01, 2024 at 12:14 pm

I go by his physical appearance...he looks like he may be o.k...

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SwedeBayPacker's picture

February 01, 2024 at 09:10 am

Please tell me he's good at teaching players how to tackle....

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TOMMY&#039;63's picture

February 01, 2024 at 11:58 am

Hello everyone and greetings. I know everyone one of us are different and we all have different views. Mlf went and looked for young experienced positions coaches who've never
Been defensive coordinators. We'll see next year. I'm of a different mindset, There are several very experienced and well esteemed defensive coaches who have been excluded from mlf approach and choice. Let's take a look at who've been overlooked. Lesley Frazier, wink martindale, rivera, lovey Smith, an excellent defensive coach with hc experience as well.
Then there's Vrabel, now he was mlf coach at Tennessee. I believe asside of looking for hc gig , he wouldn't come to gb under mlf , because of pride, The great Bellicick, would he have come as dc? I have no idea. Would of loved him as hc and the flower at of. I believe one of these coaches would have a much better choice. Does this new coach know how to call plays,or does he have to take lessons this off season to learn.? I don't like the choice, let's hope he doesn't need next just for learning on the job. I don't know!

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Packerpasty's picture

February 01, 2024 at 12:14 pm

Get him some football players not projects then lets see how the coming season pans out...

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jlc1's picture

February 01, 2024 at 01:05 pm

In an interview at BC he emphasized scheming to stop QB runs. One does see more of that at the college level but it is increasingly important in the NFL. I can see an argument for wanting someone who at least has tried to figure that out in a division with Fields (maybe) and who knows what in Minn. Certainly going to have to figure it out for any deep post season run.

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