Packers Select Quarterback Jordan Love in 2020 NFL Draft - Round One
The Green Bay Packers trade up and select Utah State quarterback Jordan Love with the 26th overall pick.
The pick is in. The Green Bay Packers traded their first and fourth round picks to the Dolphins in order to move up four spots to pick number 26 and select Utah State quarterback Jordan Love.
MEASURABLES/COMBINE:
6'4" 224 lbs. 4.74 40 / 35.5 vert / 116" broad jump / 7.21 cone drill / 4.52 shuttle
Career Notes:
In 13 games last season, Love threw for 3,402 yards, 20 touchdowns, 17 interceptions, and a 61.9 completion percentage. He set Utah State's single-season school records in both completions and attempts, while his passing yards were the second most. Overall, Love holds three Utah State records with 9,003 yards of total offense, 12 career 300-yard passing games, and four completions of at least 80 yards. His 8,600 passing yards and career passing attempts and completions are second in school history. Also, Love's 60 career passing touchdowns are tied for second.
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Commentary:
A part of me is still trying to make sense of it, another part of me is hoping I wake up. With Love's selection, the Packers hope they just got their successor to Aaron Rodgers because you don't typically expect a first round QB to be a long-term backup.
When wide receivers began flying off the board, Green Bay traded up, but for a quarterback. Love has plenty of potential, but this selection feels a lot like the trade for DeShone Kizer. Love can't be expected to play anytime soon, can he? Rodgers is under contract for at least the next four years, so Love may not see legitimate action until his fifth season, the final year of his rookie contract.
Last year, the Packers were playing in the NFC Championship Game, however, Love won't help the team get to the Super Bowl. Can he catch passes? Can he help defend the run? Right now, it doesn't make sense why Green Bay went in this direction. Perhaps general manager Brian Gutekunst is trying to match his predecessor Ted Thompson. Gutekunst better hope he did or there will be a lot of people undermining this decision for the rest of his tenure with the Packers.
That's all I got, cheers.
Brandon Carwile is a Packers writer who also enjoys watching and breaking down film. Follow him on Twitter @PackerScribe.
Comments (216)
Bearmeat
April 23, 2020 at 10:51 pm
Gute has balls of stone. I don't hate it. But he'd better be right, or he and MLF are gone by 2023.
ARod is gone by 2022 now.
Since'61
April 23, 2020 at 10:56 pm
Totally agree Bearmeat. I understand the idea of settling our backup QB situation and possible future franchise QB. However, we have spent our 1st pick on a player who is not likely to see the field until 2022 at the earliest.
If we want to win now we need weapons now. We probably could have waited until #30 to take Love and save the 4th round pick. We’ll see how Gute plays it tomorrow. Stay well.
Thanks, Since ‘61
Samson
April 23, 2020 at 11:02 pm
Sorry... 61... You know this how? --- Drawing conclusions based on what...?
cecil_26
April 23, 2020 at 11:16 pm
Maybe because he's not on anyone else's board in the 1st? Just maybe?
Since'61
April 24, 2020 at 06:27 pm
Samson, I’m not sure what you are referring to. Maybe my post is not clear. First I agreed with Bearmeat that it was a gutsy move by Gute. Then I wrote that I understand the thinking behind the selection.
Then I posted that Love probably won’t see much of the field for the next 2 seasons, which given how much we are paying Rodgers and assuming that Rodgers remains healthy is very likely to be true.
Finally I said that we could have waited until 30 to take Love since the teams ahead of us are pretty set at QB.
So I’m not sure what you are referring to. Stay well. Thanks, Since ‘61
murf7777
April 23, 2020 at 11:06 pm
I think Titans would’ve taken him. If that is who they wanted, especially with a QB you have to make your move.
JonathanSpader
April 24, 2020 at 12:08 am
Rumor has it that the Colts were going to snag love which is what promted the trade up.
HankScorpio
April 24, 2020 at 05:39 am
Sorry, the standard response to picking a guy too early does nothing to convince me. The draft is about patience. Gute has moved up for "his guy" in the first round for 3 straight years has too many people that are "his guy". He doesn't understand that the nature of the draft is a crapshoot. And he may very well be wrong about "his guy". So he shouldn't have a "guy" that often.
The price of the moving up for "his guys" has been a 3rd and (3) 4ths. Individually, those picks don't mean much. Together, they add up. The cumulative effect is to erode the depth of the team. An erosion a team coming off a string of poor drafts at the end of the Thompson era can't afford.
Gute does not get the draft. And that's a very bad thing for a GM.
Barnacle
April 24, 2020 at 06:40 am
If this is a wise pick, then the Rodgers contract was exceedingly unwise. Gute’s trades remind me of the eccentric Jerry Glanview, always trying to enhance his image(Gute “the aggressive trader, free agent guy, and huge contracts)..
jannesbjornson
April 24, 2020 at 01:20 pm
Depth like Biegle, Burks, Josh Jones, Jackson, Montravious etc. Love was rated between #18 to #28 on most draft sites. When Lynch jumped up for Aiyuk after the Chargers bagged Murray, Gutey's options became limited and he went with his value chart. Rounds two and three will be key picks.
Bure9620
April 23, 2020 at 11:20 pm
Most Rookies will not help you win now, maybe Chase young, but not many
leche
April 23, 2020 at 11:00 pm
Well he's giving up on winning another ring with Rodgers so he might as well trade him and start the rebuild now.
This makes no fucking sense.... Go all in now to win with Rodgers while he's here, THEN rebuild... OR start the rebuild now and trade Rodgers while he still has value.
This does neither. This is absolutely fucking retarded and Gute needs to be unemployed tomorrow
taarons420
April 23, 2020 at 11:09 pm
Drafting Love wasn't the mistake.
Rodgers' contract was the mistake.
Love is a perfect match for Lefleur's system... a system that doesn't fit 12's skill set.
Old guys can't run run-oriented read option / rpo systems.
Nate-1980
April 23, 2020 at 11:16 pm
Do you ever shut up? Your run on sentences and bs, are so old.. You claim to be smart, I don’t see it ever ..
cecil_26
April 23, 2020 at 11:19 pm
Oh. So don't take advantage of a future HOF talent. Sitck by your stupid chuck and duck system, right? Phhhbt
Fire_Gute
April 23, 2020 at 11:40 pm
So if you consider Aarons contact the mistake(I don't), you just double down on stupid then. Or triple down, sign Aaron, hire a coach who's system doesn't fit your QB, and draft a QB who won't play for years. Absolutely fucking stupid
cecil_26
April 23, 2020 at 11:40 pm
Noooo... on this board it's a completely genius move!
Fire_Gute
April 24, 2020 at 12:09 am
Well then I'm in the wrong place, because it's fucking dumb
On a side note, I guess we can finally squash those GB hosting the 2022 draft rumors /lies
murf7777
April 23, 2020 at 11:04 pm
As I said earlier today there is one thing for certain about Gutey in the first round is that he will surprise us. Oh boy, he really did it this time. Hey, you have to have a franchise QB if you want to win consistently, we learned that with Rodgers. GPG!
cecil_26
April 23, 2020 at 11:18 pm
Yah this guy is such a coveted 1st round talent. Just like the Bears and Trushitsky. Maybe worse.
Gman1976
April 23, 2020 at 11:11 pm
Hate the pick. We have AARON RODERS. We have glaring other needs. We are one game away from the Super Bowl. And we pick a player we don’t need and didn’t have a great college career. The pick probably will sit for a few years. I am super bummed as the 49ers are stocking with talent to get to the big game. I really have liked what Gute has done, but this pick leaves me totally bewildered.
cecil_26
April 23, 2020 at 11:28 pm
Not according to the myopic homers on this board. They believe Rodgers, a future HOF QB sucks, and this nobody will come in and lead us into the future. Never heard of this guy.
Bure9620
April 23, 2020 at 11:32 pm
Aaron Rodgers is approaching 37 and has a history of major injury.........
Fire_Gute
April 23, 2020 at 11:47 pm
And you want to watch Love, or any rookie, throwing to this WR core. This team isn't good enough to win with anyone except a top 5 QB. Pick a WR now, pick a QB when you can take advantage of the rookie contract
Leatherhead
April 24, 2020 at 10:49 am
This team held the majority of opponents to 16 or less and was 9th in scoring defense. It has a top WR in Adams. It has a top RB in Jones. It’s not a bunch of hopeless scrubs without ARod. Any decent QB should be able to win some games with this team.
I understand you like Rodgers, but there’s no reason to smear crap on the rest of the team just so he smells better.
I just hope he doesn’t pull a Favre and throw away the season in a hissy fit because his replacement is on the team. I don’t think he will, because he’s more of a grownup than Favre. But time will tell.
cecil_26
April 23, 2020 at 11:51 pm
Yes. #12 is such a no talent bum, right? Phhbbt
jannesbjornson
April 24, 2020 at 01:25 pm
Apparently, some people believe in Boyle?
Leatherhead
April 23, 2020 at 11:50 pm
Two years.
marpag1
April 24, 2020 at 05:12 am
PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: Sensible people should just read Bearmeat's eminently reasonable comment above, and ignore all of the righteous indignation on both sides from the first time posters below. Spare yourself the drama. (Trust me, I actually read all that crap....)
As Bear points out, there's really only one thing to be said: "Holy shit! Dude, you better be right...."
That's it. That's the long and short of it, and everything in between.
I don't hate it either, Bear. But damn, Gutey..... y'all better be right.... and you'll be a hero if you are... but if you're wrong....
Nate-1980
May 01, 2020 at 03:08 am
Thank you for telling me how to think..:)
ImaPayne
April 24, 2020 at 09:48 am
gutt will be gone for Rodgers. I want Thompson back and I hated his drafts.
Dzehren
April 23, 2020 at 10:53 pm
Welcome to GB Jordan Love.
Lphill
April 23, 2020 at 10:56 pm
You must be joking.
cecil_26
April 23, 2020 at 11:23 pm
Friggin TIm Couch, Vince Young, and DeShone Kizer 2.0. Just watch.
Nate-1980
April 23, 2020 at 11:43 pm
You out the words in my mouth ha.. Kizer time.::)
cecil_26
April 23, 2020 at 11:45 pm
But but but... err... genius pick and stuff
taarons420
April 23, 2020 at 10:53 pm
Adios, old man.
You get 2 more years in G & G.
Since'61
April 23, 2020 at 11:00 pm
The problem is that Rodgers knows it. I don’t think it is ever a good idea to piss off your best player especially when you are not in a position to move on him for another 2-3 seasons. Stay well. Thanks, Since ‘61
Samson
April 23, 2020 at 11:08 pm
Come on 61... You're embarrassing yourself now... Unless you live next door to AR or attend his b'day parties, you're assuming what he thinks. --- BF couldn't handle it, AR may be fine with it... in fact... he may relish it.
Since'61
April 24, 2020 at 06:31 pm
I'm confident that AR will handle it but that doesn't make him happy about it. if there is a season we'll find out.
Thanks, Since '61
taarons420
April 23, 2020 at 11:12 pm
Rodgers can piss - off.
Guy's been "in-charge" for too long.
He's just angry because he thought that once he got rid of the coach and gm he didn't like, that he'd have full reign of the place.
He was wrong.
Hardest time to find a qb is when you need one.
cecil_26
April 23, 2020 at 11:26 pm
Then you should be fine with the FO trading Rodgers to some other NFC team since he sucks so much, right? Start this rook right now! He's so friggin talented!
taarons420
April 24, 2020 at 12:14 am
if trading 12 woudn't kill thee cap - i'd do it in a heartbeat.
he's done.
haven't you been watching him play?
cecil_26
April 24, 2020 at 12:17 am
Yeah with talent only at LT on the line, a #1 receiver + a bunch of scrubs, in a new system. Are you this retarded?
Nate-1980
April 23, 2020 at 11:40 pm
Taarons you’re a troll, Love better be good, because the future of this team just changed.. But you like doom, it’s perfect for you.::)
taarons420
April 24, 2020 at 12:17 am
nope.
i just think gm's should always stick to their boards.
filling holes with draft picks is a mistake.
evaluate players.
create your board.
STICK TO YOUR BOARD.
give me a 1st round caliber qb over a second round caliber wr any day.
the future DID change... for the BETTER.
rodgers is not the future.
Pizzadoc
April 24, 2020 at 12:07 am
I was pissed at first, but 12 has had 2 broken clavicles and a lot of hardware on that right clavicle.
My hope is this lights a serious fire under 12 and he kills it this year to prove everyone wrong. We will still get a WR etc. just wait.
Kubyskins12
April 24, 2020 at 08:09 am
Although I wish we would’ve gone with someone on offense or maybe a middle linebacker, I hope Rodgers is pissed And this lights a fire under his goddamn ass so he starts playing like the old Rodgers.
flackcatcher
April 24, 2020 at 11:54 am
Well, first move Gute did was to cut Jordy Nelson. Cold blooded as ever by a Packer GM. Message sent to all. No matter how popular the player, team first. Always team first. Gute was in the front office running the pro player side when Favre pull his maybe, maybe not act in 2008. We all know Football is a young man game. Father Time waits for no one. Gute has been upfront about this from the beginning. How Aaron Rodgers wishes to go is up to him, but Gute as GM is giving Rodgers a chance to go out as a Packer, and another shot at the Superbowl. That's more than most ever get in this game...
Wilment
April 23, 2020 at 10:54 pm
Gutsy Pick. Reminds me a bit of Rodgers. He is going to have to sit behind AR for three years or so. He makes some amazing plays....and makes some hideous mistakes. The heir apparent has arrived. GOPACKGO!
Cubbygold
April 23, 2020 at 10:59 pm
Except that's not how drafting QBs works anymore. If he sits for 3 years, you're wasting your window to maximize your cap space. Lamar Jackson and Mahomes are great, but it helps that they aren't getting paid sh*t. You waste those years and you're just screwing yourself over.
taarons420
April 23, 2020 at 11:15 pm
Love will be a starter for 3 years before his rookie contract runs out.
This is PERFECT timing.
Two years to learn the offense.
Three years to run it.
Chances are pretty good Rodgers gets hurt again along the way.
When that happens - everyone will be thrilled by this pick.
Bure9620
April 23, 2020 at 11:24 pm
He will sit 2 years
jannesbjornson
April 24, 2020 at 01:32 pm
Three
murf7777
April 24, 2020 at 07:24 am
Oh please KC had Alex smith and Mahomes day on the bench.
cecil_26
April 23, 2020 at 11:39 pm
So where did Rodgers make some hideous mistakes early in his career again?
Lphill
April 23, 2020 at 10:55 pm
Gute is an asshole , Queen on the board who can help right away with the run defense and he wastes a pick on a project QB . Total asshole pick, Rodgers needs to demand a trade like I have been predicting 49 ers or Patriots and get another ring, not happening in Green Bay, anyone who is happy with this pick is out of their mind.
stockholder
April 23, 2020 at 11:06 pm
OUT of his mind. Rod sterling couldn't have said it better. We've just entered the Twilight Zone.
RickInCali
April 23, 2020 at 11:07 pm
Queen is trash. 2-game wonder with no instincts, inadequate physicality..... No thanks.
cecil_26
April 23, 2020 at 11:10 pm
So this no name pick is better? Ya right.
taarons420
April 24, 2020 at 12:18 am
You calling Jordan Love a "no name" reveals how much you know about this year's draft prospects.
jannesbjornson
April 24, 2020 at 01:37 pm
A healthy Bolton is not much different than the Queen.
johngalt
April 23, 2020 at 11:14 pm
Lp-you’re acting like emotional child. Pull yourself together man. No ones above being replaced. Great pick imo
Lphill
April 23, 2020 at 11:30 pm
Great pick? Did we have a need at project QB ? Inside linebacker, receiver, DT maybe but first round we get Deshone Kizer? And your happy?
johngalt
April 24, 2020 at 09:39 am
Love the pick. It’s a team sport. Rodgers has had more than time, and still has more of it. Your talk of demanding a trade- it reveals such a fragile mindset. Millennials
cecil_26
April 23, 2020 at 11:32 pm
Please tell me why this dude is such a great QB. No cheating by trying to look his ass up on Google. Tell me NOW.
Bure9620
April 23, 2020 at 11:50 pm
Arm Strength and mobility, he also played on a crap team with no supporting cast and awful offensive line.
cecil_26
April 23, 2020 at 11:55 pm
Sounds like what #12 has been trying to play with the past, oh, I dunno, 8 years. But this guy will do better, right?
Bure9620
April 24, 2020 at 12:12 am
The talent gap is college is significant........ it the NFL
jannesbjornson
April 24, 2020 at 01:40 pm
He was tearing it up when Yost called the offense in 2017-18.
Bure9620
April 23, 2020 at 11:33 pm
The Packers do not value ILB, watch how they built rosters for over 10 years
Kb999
April 23, 2020 at 11:40 pm
You got that right. A wasted pick. Show Gute the door.
Nate-1980
April 23, 2020 at 11:48 pm
Lphill, a hole is perfect.. I’ve never seen a gm sheet can a teams future with this project of a qb..I wouldn’t mind him to sit out the rest of this circus of a draft..
GBPDAN1
April 23, 2020 at 11:24 pm
Disappointed. This had to piss off Rodgers? Is this bad for the locker room? We need help at so many positions and we trade up for a guy who will sit on the bench for 3-4 years? Does our GM just simply hate 4th rd picks? Gave up 2 last year and now one this year.
I know Rodgers can't leave in the next few years due to major dead money cap hit... so? We do get a 5th year option with Love. I hope this guy is the next Mahomes
Lphill
April 23, 2020 at 10:58 pm
Rodgers needs to demand a trade and leave the circus behind.
Cubbygold
April 23, 2020 at 10:57 pm
Has 12 played his last snap as a Packer? His ego, having to accept that his GM traded up to get his replacement instead of a WR in a deep talented class...
Between Gary and Love, Gute is really working hard to be unconventional. He's either the smartest or dumbest GM in the league.
GBPDAN1
April 23, 2020 at 11:00 pm
40m dead money cap hit this year
Cubbygold
April 23, 2020 at 11:08 pm
That mean if 12 is traded, GB still has that hit?
Bure9620
April 23, 2020 at 11:48 pm
Yes
Lphill
April 23, 2020 at 11:00 pm
Gary will pan out, Love is a waste of a pick.
Bure9620
April 23, 2020 at 11:53 pm
That obvious with all of the reps Love has taken in the last hour....
k.rock87_SoCalPackerBacker
April 23, 2020 at 11:07 pm
Dumbest!
ShawnO
April 23, 2020 at 11:37 pm
dumbest GM in the league.
badaxed
April 24, 2020 at 07:34 am
My vote....smartest
FITZCORE1252
April 23, 2020 at 10:57 pm
Savvy.
NJMagic
April 23, 2020 at 10:58 pm
What an absolute waste. I have Love as the #3 QB this year....
But we have Rodgers for 3 more years before he can be cut (cap hit)
The whole point of drafting a QB is to underpay them for 5 years. BEST case scenario he is great, we cut Rodgers in 3 years (when he very well might still be playing at a high level?) and then have to pay Jordan whatever exorbitant salary after 1 year.
It just doesn't make sense.
And with LB available too???
Did we learn nothing from last year??
Cubbygold
April 23, 2020 at 11:02 pm
Exactly! And we don't get 5 years to load up on other positions to front load contracts. Just go from one expensive QB to another. Only way this makes sense is if 12 is out this year and Gute already has a trade lined up
dobber
April 23, 2020 at 11:09 pm
Packers can actually cut/trade #12 after 2020 and get money back on the cap.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/aaron-rodgers-3745/
Samson
April 23, 2020 at 11:20 pm
Please... dobber... don't deal with any facts now. --- The clowns who post here will only be even more confused.
cecil_26
April 23, 2020 at 11:44 pm
You seem quite deluded yourself.
NJMagic
April 24, 2020 at 12:24 am
Samson- I think you missed that Dobber was being ironic.
We would owe multiples of whatever we get back! Even if we cut him next year, ~5 back and owe ~32mil, etc....
FITZCORE1252
April 23, 2020 at 11:24 pm
Dobber, how does that work?
Rossonero
April 23, 2020 at 11:50 pm
Honestly though dobber, do you want to cut #12? If Love turns out to be a star AND Rodgers gets traded for a King's Ransom, then beautiful-- Gutekunst may pull off one of the greatest heists of any GM of any sport, of all time.
And I think I have a chance at winning the Lotto next week too. Seriously?
Love's decision making and accuracy are not reminiscent of Rodgers. In fact, Love threw 17 picks last season when Rodgers only threw 5 in 2003 and 8 in 2004. He's a complete and utter project, just like DeShone Kizer was. And we saw how that ended.
I hope to hell I am dead wrong (like I was in 2005 on Rodgers) for the future of this franchise, because Brian Gutekunst just put his own job on the line. If Love fails, so does he. The frustration stems from the fact that we need to win now, not 5 years from now when this whole roster will have turned over and left.
Bure9620
April 23, 2020 at 11:36 pm
You have not learned the Packers do not t value off ball backer
jannesbjornson
April 24, 2020 at 02:05 pm
If they do not have an NFL season 2020, then Love is essentially a rookie in 2021 with Rodgers hoping to bring in a Lombardi. What LB was available ? The best guys went in front of them and Carroll over-drafted Brooks.
There are some bad ass LBs in the second and third round as well as WRs. The whining and pouting anxiety attacks sounds like some of these posters need nappy time.
Packers2020
April 23, 2020 at 10:58 pm
This is absolutely sending a message. AR is done in 2 years or maybe next year.
To not pick an ILB or a DT for the biggest weakness we have when they are there at our pick says something. We do not care if we win the SB with AR anymore. This about building for the future now.
Slim11
April 24, 2020 at 12:09 am
If the Packers win a SB with Rodgers, what are the chances he retires immediately after that win? Elway did after his second SB win. I can see Rodgers doing the same thing.
Pizzadoc
April 24, 2020 at 12:39 am
I think his ego will push him to another. Not that there is anything wrong with that, see TB12.
Samson
April 23, 2020 at 10:59 pm
I like the pick.... A little surprising but very interesting... The rest of the Packer needs will be addressed one way or another.... Gute has a plan.... The uninformed, average fan just can't see it.... yet.
cecil_26
April 23, 2020 at 11:36 pm
You are a blind homer.
Bure9620
April 24, 2020 at 01:23 am
No blind people cannot watch film
Nate-1980
April 23, 2020 at 11:50 pm
Sampson, thank you for the dumbest take I’ve heard brother.::)
mrtundra
April 23, 2020 at 11:50 pm
I hope you are right!
rememberWhitehurst
April 23, 2020 at 11:55 pm
How do you address the rest of those needs while trading away draft capital on a guy who won’t see the field?
AgrippaLII
April 23, 2020 at 11:08 pm
He could've got this guy at #30...wasted a fourth round pick !
Difer
April 23, 2020 at 11:02 pm
Stunning lapse of judgment. This will be a wasted draft. Too bad for Rodgers. He should call it a great career and retire with dignity. Time to move on from this clown show.
LambeauPlain
April 23, 2020 at 11:15 pm
I know, right. I mean 2020 is sure to be another disaster following that clown show in 2019.
Leatherhead
April 24, 2020 at 10:39 am
I always enjoy the comments of people who are fans of the QB, not the team. It was the same about 15 years ago.
stockholder
April 23, 2020 at 11:02 pm
So much to Love. So much to hate.
jeremyjjbrown
April 23, 2020 at 11:02 pm
I have no idea why you take a risk like this when your 1 game away from a Super Bowl. I don't hate the pick in a vacuum, but the timing sucks.
NJMagic
April 24, 2020 at 12:28 am
Exactly. Doesn't leverage any current or future needs. Best case scenario we trade one expensive QB for another.
Only way Gutey wins on this one is if Love plays 10 years for us... And doesn't Cousins us (vis a vis WAs)
HankScorpio
April 23, 2020 at 11:03 pm
I have been on the fence with Gute. Not anymore. I have no confidence that he knows what he's doing, especially in the draft.
cecil_26
April 23, 2020 at 11:03 pm
So Tim Boyle isn't good enough for a year or two? Been in the system for 2 years already, and all I've seen him do is drop dimes. Oh well, it's not like The Pack needed other positions filled in the 1st round NOW or anything. Never heard of this guy.
Bure9620
April 24, 2020 at 12:01 am
He is inaccurate, a UDFA, this offense falls apart with Boyle
cecil_26
April 24, 2020 at 12:10 am
Boyle is inaccurate? WTF have you been watching?
Bure9620
April 24, 2020 at 12:13 am
Preseason
cecil_26
April 24, 2020 at 12:14 am
Wow, You are as stupid as you sound.
Bure9620
April 24, 2020 at 12:39 am
You are as classy
JQ
April 24, 2020 at 01:05 am
We get it, You’ve never heard of this guy...
jannesbjornson
April 24, 2020 at 01:54 pm
Wilkens will beat out Boyle.
k.rock87_SoCalPackerBacker
April 23, 2020 at 11:04 pm
Wasted pick.. we should have gotten ILB!! Queen was there. Just why did Gute go for such a bad pick! This kid has been compared to Kizer.
cecil_26
April 23, 2020 at 11:09 pm
Smartest Guys In The Room Syndrome. Ted would've picked an NBA ready point guard to play long snapper or something; at least that would be entertaining. But hey, Rodgers is already done, right? Yeah. Right. Nice message sent to the entire locker room. This season should be a real sh*t show.
Remember Gary? Who IS he? Ugh
JQ
April 24, 2020 at 01:06 am
Compared to Kizer by posters on this forum...Experts all.
Lphill
April 23, 2020 at 11:07 pm
How exciting it was Queen on the board and the Packers make a move and pass on him for a project QB . We are living through a difficult time in our lives And had an escape for 3 hours and the Packers move up and our excitement builds , Queen there for the taking and we get run over by a steamroller. What a letdown .
Samson
April 23, 2020 at 11:14 pm
Please... quit being just another drama queen... you're an embarrassment to Packer Fans all across the continent.
Lphill
April 23, 2020 at 11:33 pm
You have always been a consistsnt ass yourself.
Samson
April 23, 2020 at 11:39 pm
You're a fool... always have been... always will be.... Go away!!
fordguy
April 24, 2020 at 12:06 am
And you're the biggest dumbfuck on here.
cecil_26
April 23, 2020 at 11:50 pm
Drama queen, huh? Better than an idiot such as yourself.
Nate-1980
April 23, 2020 at 11:59 pm
Samson, you embar asss yourself thinking this was a good move for the franchise, .. The rest of this draft better be top notch, or were done for a few years.. As much as people take Rodgers for granted, he still has it, he should’ve got an OT or WR !!
cecil_26
April 23, 2020 at 11:14 pm
Hey man, don't piss off the homers. Anything the FO does is legit. UGH
BartySmith76
April 23, 2020 at 11:07 pm
Need to evaluate the whole draft, not just 5he first pick.
Difer
April 23, 2020 at 11:07 pm
On second thought, he might work out. His cone drill time and broad jump at the combine look preeety good.
Packers2020
April 23, 2020 at 11:08 pm
Somewhere in Dallas, MM is laughing right now.
Fire_Gute
April 23, 2020 at 11:16 pm
And somewhere in California, Aaron isn't. Fire Gute
FAN24583
April 23, 2020 at 11:11 pm
And I thought TT was the dumbest GM is history, he was just just senile, but this BG guy is a complete idiot. This is beyond stupid. What a slap in the face to AR and every packer ;player and fan! As of today as a result of the Gary pick last year and the JL pick tonight, I resign as a Packer fan. I will not watch another game or spend another dime on this team as this is now embarrassing to say that I am a packer fan. What a joke of a franchise, wow!! just wow!! I will make a few more post to show my frustrations but it is OVER!!
Bure9620
April 23, 2020 at 11:29 pm
So by that logic it was also a slap in the face to Brett Favre to draft Rodgers..
Fire_Gute
April 23, 2020 at 11:43 pm
Laziest goddam comparison imaginable. Remember the Favre will he won't he retire saga every fucking off season. Rodgers is the exact opposite, says he wants to play into his 40s,and wants to do it here. I don't care how close they are in age, it's not the same situation
Bure9620
April 24, 2020 at 12:03 am
Rodgers wants to play into his 40s, this doesn't mean he can. A 36 year old QB in decline with significant injury history. So no, not a "lazy" take at all when you look at the entire picture. There is a good chance Rodgers is injured again in the next 2 years given the way he still tries to play and extend plays and run and hold the ball for 8 or 9 seconds. I find your comparison intellectually lazy as well.
SCLI
April 23, 2020 at 11:47 pm
Its just ridiculous to walk away because the GM made a dumb call. Ive been a Packer fan since the 1960's. Ive seen it all. The ups and the many many downs. I lived thru them all. Ill live thru this. Im a Packer fan today, tomorrow and forever regardless of how many stupid picks Gute makes because eventually he'll be gone and things will again work out. I dont like this pick. But come Sept. Ill be in front of my TV rooting for my Packers like every year. What I wont do is watch the remained of this draft. No sense putting myself thru anymore disappointment. I definitely dont trust Gute.
Pizzadoc
April 24, 2020 at 12:34 am
GeorgiaCheese, I enjoy most of your comments. I think you need to rethink this in the AM. You don't quit being a fan over picks. How bout the Mandarich '89 first round Packers pick, possibly worst pick of all time?
Cubbygold
April 23, 2020 at 11:12 pm
So this also likely means that GB gets none of the 10 WRs that made this draft one of the deepest in recent history? Great!!
Nate-1980
April 23, 2020 at 11:14 pm
The dumbest pick I’ve ever seen
Nate-1980
April 23, 2020 at 11:12 pm
I’m sorry, gute needs to go after actually trading up for this bum..I want him gone..
Leatherhead
April 24, 2020 at 10:51 am
Is his dog in danger.?
nstewart1
April 23, 2020 at 11:12 pm
A little surprising, BUT how many opportunities will GB have to draft a franchise QB? Love appears to be a high-upside player that will need a year or two to be ready - what he will have in GB. Is Guty right that he can eventually become a very good QB, I have no idea - I sure hope so. But if he assessed Love correctly, this was an opportunity that makes sense; it's the most importance position in sports. We may be happy to have him even in the next year or two with Roger's injury risk.
cms
April 23, 2020 at 11:13 pm
I don't understand the thinking. You rework Roger's contract to kick his salary cap hit down the road then, draft his replacement a few months later. I've tried to give Gutey the benefit of the doubt with his first two drafts but this is it for me. I love the Packers and will always be a fan. But I have ZERO confidence in the leadership at this point. I aspect nothing but random shots in the dark for this franchise until changes are made.
The_Justicar
April 24, 2020 at 08:35 am
This is one of my beefs...lock up Rodgers and spend big in free agency at OLB and other positions. Seems like we are going all in to win now. Then...draft a project and convert to OLB which is no longer a need and draft a qb. A qb who you can’t take advantage of their low salary? Gute is going back and forth between both win now and win later which will end up not winning in either.
FAN24583
April 23, 2020 at 11:14 pm
I hope AR goes to the PATS!!!!
Fire_Gute
April 23, 2020 at 11:29 pm
No matter how Aaron reacts, GB deserves it at this point. Carries the team with 1 WR and a bunch of 4s, can't get help in a deep WR draft. Win now mode, draft a player who won't see the field for years. He can retire, demand a trade, pout, tell Gute to fuck off, whatever he wants. He deserves better
Lphill
April 23, 2020 at 11:36 pm
Pats or 49 ers and gets ring number 2.
RickInCali
April 23, 2020 at 11:15 pm
I knew they wouldn’t take Queen and I got downvoted mercilessly. The draft did not break for us correctly as far as premium positions we needed on d-line, or OT. So what do we do? We get their best value play on the board at a premium position. I trust our GM more than ever for not playing scared. Would I have done it? No way..... that is crazy ballsy knowing what the fan fallout would be. I’d have gone Safety with what was on the board, but hey......12 gets dinged...the kid comes in and shines.....and Gute is a genius.
Bure9620
April 23, 2020 at 11:17 pm
Boooooooooom I'm in Love
taarons420
April 23, 2020 at 11:20 pm
Best.
Player.
Available.
Always!
There's more than 1 round to the draft.
They'll still get weapons.
Tons still available.
Oh no - we miss out on Mims.
PPpffffff.
murf7777
April 23, 2020 at 11:22 pm
I’m with ya!
rememberWhitehurst
April 23, 2020 at 11:51 pm
The best player available wasn’t throwing 17 picks against bad college defenses last year.
cecil_26
April 24, 2020 at 12:06 am
So according to you, best player available wasn't in this deep WR draft pool. Best player available equates to some lame project QB.
taarons420
April 24, 2020 at 12:25 am
Who I think is the best player is irrelevant.
I didn't scout anyone.
Neither did you.
Packers thought Love was the best player.
So they picked him.
Smart.
Waiting until the second round to pick a WR seems like it might work, considering this is a "deep wr draft pool" - as you say. (Nelson, Cobb, Adams).
jannesbjornson
April 24, 2020 at 02:01 pm
Four WRs were given high round grades with Reagor and Aiyuk filling in the other spots based on their electric returning ability. The round two group will round out the talent drain. The draft fell as most scouts called it for ranking the prospects. The fans may or may not have been sober when the proceedings rolled along.
murf7777
April 23, 2020 at 11:21 pm
Wow, everyone has come out of the woodwork to respond on this one. Yes, it’s very surprising and the timing seems weird. It worked the last time, maybe it will again and most everyone will be pleasantly surprised. That said, I’m still scratching my head.
One way to look at it is that first round draft picks in the later half of the round are 50-50 proposition of success. If you hit a home run with a franchise QB you will be called a genius years from now. If not, whomever you might’ve taken may never of succeeded. It’s not like we are going to get shots at a potential franchise QB picking in the later half of the first round very often either. Ok shoot me with a bunch of down votes!
cecil_26
April 24, 2020 at 12:13 am
How the hell does this guy rate as a possible franchise QB?
murf7777
April 24, 2020 at 07:29 am
Any QB taken in the first round is considered that potential he has been compared to Mahomes as well.
baldski
April 24, 2020 at 02:26 am
I agree murf, the whole draft is a crapshoot. Where was Tom Brady drafted? 7th round, I believe. San Francisco passed on Arod because he was too cocky. It is a crazy game.
splitpea1
April 23, 2020 at 11:22 pm
Giving away a fourth-round pick is just adding insult to injury....Second year in a row taking a questionable first-round pick...I'd be pissed, too, if I were AR...Of all the positions to draft in the first round, Gute does THIS?....I like long-term thinking, but not at this position right now--it could have waited at least one more season. And let's not even consider helping the middle of our defense with a first-round pick, right Gute?
I can't wait to see some of the comments from the Gute lovers out there; let's see if they try to rationalize this along with the rest of his experimental high-round picks.
Bure9620
April 23, 2020 at 11:35 pm
Wait a season and draft who???
splitpea1
April 23, 2020 at 11:47 pm
I said "at least" one season and I have no idea who and don't care right now. This team has too many holes to fill and it wasn't remotely necessary to not only spend a first-rounder, but trade up and lose a fourth-round pick, for a QB at this point.
Bure9620
April 24, 2020 at 12:07 am
What rookie would fill a hole immediately???? Glad you are not a GM, their job is to look to future NOT the now.
cms
April 24, 2020 at 12:26 am
No! Their job is to look at BOTH now and the future. Gute has no concept of now.
splitpea1
April 24, 2020 at 12:26 am
Looks like we have a Gute lover or relative here. What an idiotic response. Whether it's "the now" or the future, we have more pressing needs at just about every other position group, whether it's because of a lack of talent or impending salary issues. And there's no excuse for giving away a fourth-round pick when you don't need to. Maybe this will work out eventually if they dump Rodgers, but as it stands right now, they'll have a lot of team-building to do first.
Cwilly
April 23, 2020 at 11:23 pm
All you can say is this is the death sentence for a gm if he’s right his job is secure if not he’s done. This guy isn’t a fall like Rodgers and I think gute just lost his job. Packers aren’t super bowl contenders and won’t be till they fix the inside of the defense.
cms
April 23, 2020 at 11:49 pm
I would like to believe that his job is tied to this choice! If we get gutted by the 49ers again next year, Gute needs to be held accountable. The cost of passing on ANY of the other players left on the board will become very clear when we hit the field next year. Too many holes...
Jonny80
April 23, 2020 at 11:22 pm
In one fell swoop, I just lost all respect for Gutenkust. Asinine pick. One game from the Super Bowl last year with heavy needs at WR, LB, and DL and he does this. Difference between this and the Favre/Rodgers transistion is that Favre was constantly diva threatening at retirement and Rodgers was projected #1 overall pick that fell unexpectedly. Not even close to the same situation. And we trade up in front of 3 teams that have no need at QB. I am sure Gute will say that he knew there was another team that wanted to trade up for Miamis pick - - and I have some great property in South Florida to sell him as well. He got suckered - frickin amateurs.
Bure9620
April 24, 2020 at 12:09 am
Those heavy needs would be immediately addressed by a rookie??? No they would not.
PackFlip
April 23, 2020 at 11:26 pm
I am utterly disappointed. What an awful feeling this is. Perfectly setup going into this draft to improve our team and...this. After Gary last year I still stuck by Gute. It'll be hard to find confidence in them again. Poor Aaron. What a f'ing waste of two picks.
leche
April 23, 2020 at 11:26 pm
Let's put this pick into perspective...
All of my Bears fans friends love it
Rossonero
April 23, 2020 at 11:30 pm
What pisses me off is WE DIDN'T HAVE TO TRADE UP FOR HIM. Look at the teams in front of us: Vikings, Dolphins, Seahawks, Titans. Dolphins already took a QB in the draft, and the other teams already have a QB! Why did we have to blow a 4th rounder on top of it?! Gute needs to be more patient for once.
Love is a project. His decision making can remind you of Jay Cutler or, if you're optimistic, Brett Favre. This is a long-term pick, not a short-term pick, and is the beginning of the end of a messy divorce in Green Bay, just like we saw with Favre. I hope to God I am wrong just like I was in 2005. I was pissed we took Rodgers then, but just because there's a QB with gawdy numbers doesn't mean you MUST draft him.
We need to win now, but we won't. No weapons for Rodgers, we don't have a run defense and we don't have an ILB. I guess we'll keep people in the seats, but when Love goes the way of the dodo, Gute and LaFleur will be long, long gone. And if you think I'm full of it, I bet my old college roommate tonight that Love won't be on the Packers after his rookie contract (after 5 years). If he is, then the winner has to buy the jersey of either Rodgers or Love.
I hope I'm wrong and have to buy a Love jersey for my buddy, but fuck man, fuck. Now we have to wait at least 3 years to find out if this guy can play? Enjoy watching him on Family Night until 2022....patience is a virtue? Yes. Is the goal to win now? You tell me...
PackFlip
April 23, 2020 at 11:31 pm
Id take that bet. Kizer 2.0 coming up. Book it
Rossonero
April 23, 2020 at 11:39 pm
I hate to say it, but yes. Aaron Rodgers didn't even come CLOSE to Love's interception totals. In fact, he threw 5 picks in 2003 and 8 in 2004. Love threw SEVENTEEN last season. That has decision making and accuracy written all over it. Full stop.
leche
April 24, 2020 at 12:35 am
The trade up is a minor setback in all of this. The team needed an impact player with their first pick and didn't get one for the 2nd year in a row...
The pick was stupid as fuck at 24 or 30. The trade doesn't really matter
bbarryirish
April 23, 2020 at 11:30 pm
He just undermined an entire franchise in one pick. THE MAN wants to be in GB, loves Wisconsin, has FOUR years left on a contract, and you draft a replacement? WTF! Ok Aaron get pumped up about NOT going to the super bowl because our 1st round pick us sitting on the bench (another one by the way) and you're throwing to a UW Whitewater grad!!! It's mind boggling. Time to check out. :(
flackcatcher
April 23, 2020 at 11:32 pm
Gee, board fell that Gute could make the move. Getting a cornerstone for the future, you make that move no questions ask. Football grandson of Ron. Football Son of Ted. Anyone thinks Gute wouldn't be pulling this off if giving half the chance. Gute to Packers fans everywhere: 'HOLD MY BEER' (Me: Jaw drops. Insane laughter begins.....) (Remember this is a fairly deep draft across the board. Good chance Gute will pick up all teams top targets. What we fans thinks the Packers need, and what Gute thinks as we All know, are two very different things.)
SCLI
April 23, 2020 at 11:32 pm
Im in shock. I dont think I can watch the rest of this draft. Every yr I watch the Packers pick and every year I come away disappointed. This year so far is no exception. In fact with the Pack having so many holes to fill & there being quality players at positions we need to fill. Im really @ a loss when trying to understand what just happened. No disrespect to Love. Seems like a good, young, talented, level headed kid. But GB just wasted their 1st Rd pick IMO.
NoahLarrimore
April 23, 2020 at 11:34 pm
The premise for this pick is that Love is a future franchise QB, and that no comparable QBs will be available in the draft for the next 4 years (remainder of Rodgers' contract). Even if this turns out to be true, there is no possible way that Gutenkust could know this. It is a pure gamble that at best addresses a need years from now, but does nothing for the Packers today.
FAN24583
April 23, 2020 at 11:37 pm
Howdy Doody and BG should be gone tomorrow, f-ing disgusting that this franchise allows jokers to run it and they don't even care about winning another SB. They really don't! Convince me I am wrong??
FITZCORE1252
April 23, 2020 at 11:40 pm
All this "one game from the SB" nonsense is just that. The Packers weren't great last year, they were very fortunate to end up where they did and you know it, yes, YOU. When it came time to man up it was evident SF was simply a superior team with a superior roster, KC would've smoked us had we somehow got past SF.
Yes, we were technically one game away but if you're being honest with yourself we might as well been light years away.
I didn't see this coming, I was sure they moved up to get Queen. That said, #12 hasn't been #12 in a while. I don't blame Gute for looking at the big picture here and starting to work on a backup plan.
We aren't simply one blue chip WR, or MLB or RT away. That's just a fact. I love #12 and I want to see him get another ring but given his injury history, diminishing mobility and play along with his age I understand the move.
leche
April 23, 2020 at 11:54 pm
Well if the team is so far from being Super Bowl ready that this pick is warranted, we might as well trade Rodgers for whatever we can get for him now... No sense in being mediocre with Rodgers for 4 years just to hand the keys over to Love...
Analytics have changed the game of sports...
- BE GOOD
- If you can't be good, BE BAD
- DON'T be mediocre for an extended period of time
This move does more to make us what we don't want to be, than anything
rememberWhitehurst
April 24, 2020 at 12:05 am
You’re arguing against yourself. Agreed that the team has multiple holes. You can’t fill those holes by giving away picks to trade up for a project like this. Gutey falls in love with his guys and gives up whatever he thinks it’s going to take to get them instead of letting the draft come to him and getting value. Two years in a row he has grossly overpaid for something, in this case for an underwear Olympian who was awful on the field.
SugarCain
April 23, 2020 at 11:40 pm
Every draft pundit had the most talented QB with the most upside: Jordan Freaking Love... comparisons to Mahomes Love needs time to develop...Gutey just drafted the QB for the next 15 years! The Pack will be competitive for the next two decades! Gutey will now move up in round 2 and get immediate help! R- E-L-A-X..
FAN24583
April 23, 2020 at 11:50 pm
BG is an idiot!!
Lphill
April 23, 2020 at 11:52 pm
You can’t be serious.
MarkinMadison
April 23, 2020 at 11:41 pm
Does this mean they think they are REALLY close with what they have now? Or that they CAN'T close the talent gap with San Fran given their salary structure? Or does this say that they don't think AR is going to get them to another Super Bowl either because of injuries or attitude? I'm guessing the latter. I'm guessing that #12 gets traded in two years or less and they give Love a shot if they have confidence in him.
I'd have more confidence in the pick if Gute hadn't loved Kizer. Is he picking a type or a player?
flackcatcher
April 24, 2020 at 12:03 pm
That was trade getting two players who were trouble for their teams a fresh start. What goes on in the locker room is just as important as what goes on in the field. Good move by both GMs.
jannesbjornson
April 24, 2020 at 02:02 pm
Kiser was McCarthy's guy.
rememberWhitehurst
April 23, 2020 at 11:43 pm
I hate this pick so much. This is not Brett/Aaron part 2. Aaron hasn’t conducted a retirement soap opera for the last three years. How can you give Aaron a massive extension and then draft a round 1 QB the next year? That’s gross incompetence. Then you trade up, wasting two picks in the process, to take a clipboard holder who threw 17 pics last year and posted the lowest completion percentage against man coverage in the entire FBS. Aaron is the QB for three years based on cap implications at a minimum. This team has a lot of holes to fill. Gutey traded away two 4ths last year and another this year. You can’t fill the holes, or hope to have any depth, like that. Somehow Gutey managed to spend a high pick on someone who will produce less than Rashan Gary. The Vikings and Lions got better today. The Packers did not.
Bure9620
April 24, 2020 at 12:08 am
Yes Gute was unaware Aaron Rodgers signed an extension............
mrtundra
April 23, 2020 at 11:46 pm
The thing that bothers me the most was that we moved up to take a QB that would have been there at our pick at 30. Queen, Epenesa, Blacklock and Jones were all there for the picking at the spot where we grabbed Love. Is Gute sending a message to Rodgers? This pick sent shudders down my spine. I guess I'll say that there's a lotta game left. 6 more rounds minus the one we gave up to go up for Love.
HaroldDrake
April 24, 2020 at 05:31 am
Dear Mr Tundra,
Yes, exactly. None of the teams picking prior to GB before the trade were expected to take a QB. I agree with all your possible alternative picks at 30 - Epenesa, Blacklock, Jones - Queen was already taken. And what about Denzel Mims? He would have made sense, too. I doubt whether Mims or Pittman will still be available at pick 62 for the Pack.
FAN24583
April 23, 2020 at 11:44 pm
BG, how do you F this up? You have the best job in sports, one of the GOAT's if not the The Greatest @ QB for 3-4 more years and you can't just draft a glaring need with your last 2, # 1 picks? WTF? you are a joke!!
Lphill
April 23, 2020 at 11:46 pm
Gute had a chance to improve this team he traded up , 3 good linebackers available and several receivers that could have made an impact and he gambled on the future. No sense to it at all . All you Gute lovers are crazy iif you like this choice.
PackFlip
April 23, 2020 at 11:53 pm
Dumbest pick in history of NFL. What a complete embarrassment. Lost all faith.
Cwilly
April 23, 2020 at 11:56 pm
At least the pack will have a gm opening in a couple years and hopefully not in house again cuz it’s gotten stale. Thompson still runs the Green Bay show even without the name tag.
Mojo
April 24, 2020 at 12:07 am
Need to hear from TGR what the ramifications are if the Packers trade Rodgers. I've seen cap hits of $51 mil in 2020, $31mil in 2021 and $17 mil in 2022, even if he's traded. Doesn't sound right but if it is then a couple of scenarios play out.
1. Packers can't take such large cap hits, so they intend to start Rodgers for the next three or four years and have Love around in case of injuries. In this case at least 60% to 80% of Loves rookie contract is wasted. Plus you'll have a disgruntled 1st round pick and a disgruntled vet QB in the locker room.
2. Have Rodgers and Love battle it out. If Love were to win (I doubt it), then we have the most expensive clip-board holder in NFL history eating up precious cap space. There's no telling if Love will ever do anything , most see him as a project.
Both scenarios (if the cap hits are true) are negatives if you ask me.
If the Packers do take enormous cap hits in a trade, then this is among the stupidest 1st round draft picks in Packers history. And this team has had some horrific first round picks.
LambeauPlain
April 24, 2020 at 12:10 am
I was really hoping for Queen and was surprised he dropped. Then Gute trades up in the first round again for a boom or bust guy in Love. Gary isn’t a bust yet...but his flashes were infrequent.
Glass half full: Had Love matched his 2018 numbers, He would have gone Top 15. Had a lot of positive pre draft buzz. Coaching and O player turnovers in 2019 saw him digress....but so did his mechanics and decision making. Just a Junior and his size and upside is huge. He can throw it. And unlike Kizer and Hundley, Love can make downfield throws.... not like #12, but then few can. Taking him is 1st round gets him in GB for 5 years and NO WAY AR goes the next 2, 3, 4 years without missing games given his recent history. Love seems to be a good leader.
Glass half empty: Gutey had his pick of cream of the crop at ILB and DT...and some very good WRs were on the board. All three of those position draftees would have been potential 5 year starters with first round contracts. Love regressed last year under new coordinator Sanford who also happened to be Kizer’s OC in his regressive Junior year at Notre Dame. For the NFC runner up Packers who got shredded in the run game all year and comically vs SF, this was huge luxury pick. Sometimes GMs just fall in love with a guy’s film.
Don’t be surprised if Gutey makes a move up in the 2nd round tomorrow. I would not be shocked to see him offer a 2021 pick to move up or trade Boyle and his second rounder to a team needing a backup QB for 2020.
FAN24583
April 24, 2020 at 12:09 am
This is a bad joke at this point, a nightmare that won't end. Time to find other things to do on Sunday as there will be no football for me. It is OVER!!!
justjan
April 24, 2020 at 02:24 pm
So go already. You keep saying you are going to leave. Just Do It.
Packman60
April 24, 2020 at 12:23 am
The year Rodgers was drafted the comment section looked very similar to this, also the KC chiefs GM was blasted for trading all the way up to pick 10 to draft Mahomes when they had been in the playoffs multiple years and still had a very good QB in Smith under contract and were thought to be only a player or two away from getting over the hump, so I think everyone needs to take a deep breadth and let things play out. They always say the worse time to try to find a QB is when you need one - Just look at the Bears and how many mediocre QB's they've had in the 30 years the Packers have had Farve / Rodgers. I'll admit I was as shocked as everyone else. I assumed they traded up to get a head of Baltimore to draft Queen, but I'm more than willing to give Gute the benefit of the doubt that he knows more than all of the arm chair GM's out here. His job is to plan for not only today, but also for the future. While I wish he wouldn't have traded up to do it, he probably had a strong hunch that Indy was looking to trade up with Seattle to draft Love.
cgc73
April 24, 2020 at 12:38 am
Given his seeming relationship with Seattle who knows if it was even a "hunch".
I'm sure that GMs keeps their cards pretty damned closed to their chest but I also wouldn't be surprised at all to find out that someway, somehow he knew that somebody was trying to move up. The whole 'we didn't have to move down!' cry is weird to me. We here in the upper decks have no idea if that's true. I like 4th round picks but clearly they believe in Love (whether or not they should is a different question) and so if this pick turns out, which all Packer fans should hope it does, the cost of a 4th round pick to nail down that you get the guy who you think is your next guy is pocket change in the game of 'who has a QB?'
Malland56
April 24, 2020 at 12:56 am
According to Desmond Howard it was a fantastic pick. Are you kidding me. In Feb. Rodgers said that if they picked a QB in the draft that that guy would have to beat him out until he retired. Good Luck love. And then on top of that the money we will be paying for him to sit. And who knows, he might be another flop QB like Huntley. I sure hope not. Still a lot of good players to get in the 2nd round that will be available.
But I was hoping to get a starter in the 1st round and not another Gary.
BeerCheese4
April 24, 2020 at 12:44 am
You all are clueless
stockholder
April 24, 2020 at 12:53 am
TT took 2 QBs in 2008! I'm expecting the worst now. Jalen Hurts QB @ 60.?
Jack_Vainisi
April 24, 2020 at 12:52 am
This pick was the opposite of my scenario of selecting guys this year who are ready to play. Gutekunst is obviously relying on his and his scouts projection and the ability of the staff to coach up Gary and Love to be franchise players. This clearly is a gamble, especially two years in a row. Only time will tell.
By the way, the Packers record in 2019 was beneficiary of
a number of games where some opponents' key players didn't play e.g., Mahomes.
I don' t like or dislike Gutey yet but as an avid Packer fan since 1959 it's not like I haven't seen a barrel full of bad first round picks - some even by Lombardi.
HaroldDrake
April 24, 2020 at 05:26 am
Not only is the Love pick horribly misguided, it leaves a sinking feeling in Packer Nation that Gutekunst is a bust as a GM. Perhaps the Patriots would like to acquire Aaron Rodgers who would not be unjustified in asking to be traded simply out of spite. It is MUCH too early to be anointing a successor QB and threatens to precipitate the kind of Favre-Rodgers embroglio that led to Favre leaving the Pack and leading the Vikes one game short of the Super Bowl two years later.
WMA
April 24, 2020 at 09:10 am
And throwing a pick to end the Viking season.
ReaganRulz
April 24, 2020 at 06:46 am
Ummm, we were 1 game away from the SB last year, right? We caught a few breaks as well, but we have a pretty decent team that was playing under a 1st year head coach. We already had a lot going for us before 7:00 PM yesterday.
I’m sure a ton of people screamed when we picked Rodgers a few years ago and that’s worked out pretty good. Let’s see how the rest of the draft plays out. My guess is that Gute will do some more trading and pick up a talented WR, ILB, or OL for sure today and more in Day 3.
PAPackerbacker
April 24, 2020 at 08:53 am
I don't understand why you trade up 4 spots and give up a 4th round pick when Love would have been there at #30 anyhow. And Love is not going to take over from Rodgers for a few years. In that time there will be more choices at QB in the future drafts. Passing up great defensive players or a top notch receiver or TE that could help the run defense or passing attack now makes more sense. Patrick Queen was there and would have been more of a contributor to immediate need than Love. Or a top notch receiver. Learning under Rodgers is a good thing but the team needs were higher at other positions at this point in time. Even a top OT makes more sense than taking a QB at this point in time. Come on man!!!
CrazyPackersFan
April 24, 2020 at 09:57 am
It's a no-win situation for the GM. If the Packers win, they'll say that the QB pick was unnecessary. If they lose, they'll blame him for picking a QB. Kudos to Gutekunst for having the guts to make this pick.