Wow, future HOF surprised pick for CHTV. I can not believe!

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Qb. - In 5 - Didn't surprise me.
Surprised he was there. Like it.

Rock solid person and a leader. Good college QB with some potential. Barring injury he could be one of those 10 year backups who can step in and win an occasional game when needed. Solid pick, welcome to Green Bay!

Gil, I think you have a bit more work to do on this one. LOL.

also - A QB! fInAlLy We CaN gEt RiD oF tHaT lOvE bUm! ;)

PS: fIrW gUtE bRiNg BaCk aArOn ;)

CHTV draft guide seems underwhelmed with this QB.

IN A NUTSHELL:
Sean Clifford played in a lot of games for Penn State as a four-year starter and five-year contributor for the Nittany Lions. Despite a solid 2022 season with 24 touchdowns and seven interceptions, Clifford is generally looked at as a limited passer with below-average arm talent and below- average accuracy outside the hash marks, as evidenced by his unimpressive 61% career completion percentage. He is at his best working the middle of the field and possesses nice touch on his passes. However, outside of that and some nice RPO work, he is limited as a prospect and may serve strictly as a practice squad player.

Tom clements will have his work cut out for him. Thanks, Since '61

Hey, the guy had a great 3 cone……As a 5th year senior and a 4 X captain he improved every year and capped it off with an MVP Rose Bowl game. I think he’s worth a 5th rounder. He may turn out to be a very reliable back up for the Packers. Having a good back up QB is a very important position and one not to take lightly.

Oh.

I don't love this.

I may be among the few, but I like him. Will Levis couldn’t unseat him at PSU. Has athletic ability (9.04 RAS) other than some concerns about arm strength. As with all rookies they can work on that. He only needs to come in if Love gets hurt. Develop him and he could he future trade chip. GBay needs to get back to that philosophy.

Okay I like that the QB can run. Moving into the 5th round let's draft the kicker from Georgia. The one from Michigan is already gone. In fairness after seeing the film on the QB it looks like a pretty good pick. My bad.

Just wondered how long it would take Gutekunst to make a stupid pick. Projected as late 7th round or priority FA. So many other needs.

I believe he will be nice toy for Tom Clements. As I understood he needs a lot of work.

Ok, we did need another QB. No doubt about it. Yet didn’t we trade back in the second round to get him? Clements will definitely have his work cut out for him. Yet if he does have potential then Tom is the guy to help him do that. The kid has played a lot of college football.

No big deal. I watched Clifford extensively as my son graduated from Penn State. He is a developmental QB and will be a camp arm and backup. He can run an offense. Not spectacular. If he’s starting opening day it would be a big problem obviously. I still think they will be sifting the veteran market for a backup. Not sure who everyone wanted but this is about what we could expect.

Well, the Packers finally landed someone who came for a visit. I'm not surprised by the pick, as Tune and Bennett were already off the board.

From Sports Illustrated: "His best case scenario is a Taysom Hill-type role." Interesting, but that seems a bit of a stretch.

He's good at scrambling and making short throws, and his passing accuracy statistics reflect a lot of those short throws. Otherwise his accuracy can be quite off, and he has thrown a fair amount of INTs. Also needs to work on mechanics and throws off his back foot sometimes.

We'll see how he does in preseason.

--Poor build
--Skinny
--Lacks great physical stature and strength
--Lacks mobility and ability to avoid the rush
--Lacks a really strong arm
--Can’t drive the ball downfield
--Does not throw a really tight spiral
--System-type player who can get exposed if forced to ad lib
--Gets knocked down easily

Time will tell, but you never know. The above was Tom Brady's scouting report before the 2000 draft. I'm not about to judge Clifford just yet. I wish him luck! Welcome to Green Bay!

The Packers ought to look at this kid at QB:

QB Tyson Bagent - Shepherd University

6-3 213

Completed 69.9% of his throws last year.

Division II career record with 17,034 yards and 159 TD passes, the most of any quarterback at any level in NCAA history.

I'm wondering how much arm strength and accuracy can be developed in the NFL with good coaching as far as technique.
How does his arm strength compare to Tom Brady or Joe Montana?
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Otherwise, in a backup QB for this season and beyond, it seems we would want a smart guy with good experience in college who is accurate in the short throws and can escape pressure.
We want a guy with field presence and game management and general competency.
Clifford seems to be that guy, somewhat of a veteran, through lots of reps with a major college program, who could step in as a backup in his rookie year.
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Hey, maybe he's the next Bart Starr.
The NFL Draft is for dreaming, and this comparison seems at least possible, even if not probable, or even plausible.
There has to be some talent to make it in the NFL, but character can make up for a lot that is lacking.
As humans, we are more than our measurables, more than our statistics, more than our past.

Picks like this should assure us of being cellar dwellers for years to come

I didn't realize the roster was so well set that we were now simply chucking around picks randomly at guys that would do little to improve the team. Let's instead focus in 'areas of need' with these later picks and draft a bunch of guys there -- hoping we catch a 'diamond in the rough'.

I wonder if Gutekunst facetimed Love before this pick. He should...

maybe they will convert him to safety.

Wolf made a living drafting and trading these late round QBs.

Can everyone quit with the "Tom Brady" dumb shit....this dude is not Tom Brady nor will he ever be...practice squad guy...if he doesn't have good arm strength coming from a big school by now he never will...what they gonna do, 'roid him up??

Max Duggan was still on the board. Just sayin'.

With an astounding bounty of 13 picks in this draft, it seems we can afford to take one quarterback in Clifford, especially in the later rounds.

This guy seems almost like the prototypical backup QB. Solid, unspectacular, can run when the play breaks down. The Packers are showing confidence in Jordan Love by not drafting a QB who can compete with him anytime soon. I guess I'll take that as a good sign. I thought they would pick a QB with more upside, but I'm okay with this.

Does anyone know if Clifford has any experience throughout his football career placeholding for field goals?

Posing a threat to either throw it or pull it down and run on any given 4th and short inside FG range makes my tummy tingle a lil bit.

I did not like the pick at first but then I watched his highlight real and feel a lot better. He may not have an elite arm but he can make some really nice throws. Plus he is very athletic and can run. He's also a smart kid that should be able to learn the offense quickly and has proven he is a winner and a very good leader. Coaching can help improve his mechanics and accuracy. As a back up QB he does not really need to have elite arm strength anyway, he just needs to be able to run the offense effectively and make those shorter quick throws. I hope he proves to be a good back up QB and worth the 5th round pick or at least worth a trade in the future.