Packers Snap Counts Vs. Detroit: Week 13, 2025

 

The Packers elevated DB Jaylin Simpson and LB Jamon Johnson from the practice squad.  The Packers released Kicker Lucas Havrisik and signed WR Will Sheppard directly to the 53-man roster.  The inactive players due to injury were CB Nate Hobbs, WR Matthew Golden, LB Quay Walker, WR Savion Williams, Edge Lucas Van Ness and DL Karl Brooks.  OL Donovan Jennings was a healthy scratch. Simpson and Sheppard did not play.

Devonte Wyatt got rolled up on from behind and left the game and was carted off the field.  He reportedly has a season-ending ankle injury.

 

OFFENSIVE LINEMEN:

Player Snaps % STs
Tom 63 100 5/21%
Rhyan 63 100 5/21%
Walker 63 100 5/21%
Banks 63 100 5/21%
Belton 63 68 5/21%
Kinnard 14 22 5/21%
Morgan 0 0 5/21%
Monk     5/21%

 

The starting five appears to be clear.  There was no rotating in this game.  The five normal starters played every snaps and Kinnard got a substantial number of snaps as a 6th offensive lineman. 

The run blocking was fine.  The line had some wins and some reps that they lost, but they managed a +0.02 EPA per play.  The Packers gained 125 yards on 30 carries for a 4.17-yard average, with a long of 29.  The running backs averaged 4.41-yards per carry.  Pro Football Focus indicated that the Packers gained 1.1 yards before contact per carry after getting just 0.3 yards before contact last week.  1.1 yards is nothing to write home about (Detroit posted 1.8 yards before contact per rush) but it is a big improvement.  The Packers only allowed one tackle for loss for minus 2 yards.  

The Packers did not allow a QB hit or a sack.  That is very good.  Love did get flushed and he did not have all day to throw, but he had good time.  Still, PFF indicated the Packers had a passing EPA of 0.58 yards per play, which is in the 97th percentile.  Per PFF, the Packers allowed just 18 pressures after allowing 14 last week.  Love had 2.90 seconds on average to throw. 

Rhyan and Tom each allowed a hurry.  Banks allowed 2 hurries and Walker allowed 3 pressures.  Belton allowed 5 hurries.  PFF gave Zach Tom an initial grade of 81.1.

 

RUNNING BACKS:

 

Player Snaps % STs
Jacobs 34 54  
Brooks 18 29 13/54%
Wilson 12 19  

Josh Jacobs gained 83 yards on 17 carries (4.88-yards/carry) with a long of 29.  Without the long run, Jacobs 54 yards on 16 carries (3.375-yards/carry).  Jacobs caught 1 pass for 8 yards.  With Jacobs back, Emanuel Wilson finished with only 14 yards on 4 carries (3.5-yards/carry).  Chris Brooks had no carries but caught both of his targets for 9 yards.

 

QUARTERBACKS:

Player Snaps % STs
Love 63 100  
Willis DNP    

 

Love completed 18 of 30 (55.56%) for 234 yards (7.8 yards/attempt), with 4 touchdowns and no interceptions.  His passer rating was 124.2.  Love had 2 throwaways and 5 passes were broken up: he was definitely throwing into some tight windows and the receiver made also made some contested passes.  Love went deep on quite a few attempts and completed 4 passes 20 yards or more downfield, including a 51-yard touchdown pass to Watson.  Love looked much improved, physically.  PFF gave him a tremendous 93.9 grade.  

 

TIGHT ENDS:

Player Snaps % STs
Musgrave 37 59  
Whyle 32 51 7/29%
Fitzpatrick 15 24  

 

Musgrave caught his only target for 23 yards.  Whyle and Fitzpatrick each were targeted once but caught no passes.  PFF gave the tight ends better blocking grades than I would have in week 11 and 12, so they are seeing something I am not. 

 

WIDE RECEIVERS:

Player Snaps % STs
Doubs 53 84 2/8%
Watson 46 73  
Wicks 31 49  
Heath 11 17 5/21%
Melton 11 17 9/38%

 

Watson caught 4 of his 10 targets for 80, a 20.0-yard average with a long of 51.  Doubs caught 4 of his 4 targets for 20 yards, including a short touchdown pass.  Wicks caught 6 of his 7 targets for 94 yards with 2 touchdowns.  He also made several contested catches, including the dagger play on 4th and 3 to get the Packers to kneeling down.  PFF gave Wicks a 93.1 grade.  He definitely came up big in this game.  

 

DEFENSIVE TACKLES:

 

Player Snaps % STs
Wyatt 45 71 3/12%
Wooden 38 60 4/17%
Brinson 32 51 6/25%
Stackhouse 5 8 1/4%

Wyatt had 4 tackles (3 solo) with a tackle for loss.  His loss will be felt for the rest of this season.  Brinson had 1 solo tackle.  Stackhouse had 1 assisted tackle and Wooden batted down a pass.  Wyatt had 2 run stops and Brinson and Stackhouse each had 1.  Wyatt had 1 hurry on 21 pass rushing opportunities.  Brinson and Stackhouse had no pressures of any type on 17 and 16 pass rushing opportunities.  Stackhouse had no pressures in his 3 pass rushing snaps.

 

DEFENSIVE ENDS:

Player Snaps % STs
Parsons 57 90  
Gary 44 70  
Enagbare 27 43 8/33%
Mosby     19/79%
Sorrell 7 11 7/29%

 

Parsons had 8 tackles (4 solo tackles), 4 quarterback hits, and 2.5 sacks.  PFF listed him with 6 pressures (3 hurries, 3 sacks) in 27 pass rushing snaps, a 22.2% success rate.  He had no stops on run defense and he lost contain on a couple of runs by Jahmyr Gibbs.  Gary had 2 tackles (1 solo), 2 QB hits.  PFF listed Gary with 1 hurry on 23 pass rushes, a 4.3% success rate, plus 1 run stop.  That is a very quiet game from Gary, if one does not describe it as invisible.  Enagbare had 1 assisted tackle, a QB hit and a half sack.  PFF listed him with 2 pressures (a QB hit and a sack) on just 13 pass rushing opportunities, giving Enagbare a respectable 15.4% pass rushing success rate.  

So far this season, at least one other defensive player has stepped up in each to produce some pressure to help Parsons.  Sometimes it has been Enagbare and some times one of the defensive linemen,  The loss of Wyatt is important lest the Packers go back to the days where one player is the whole pass rush.  The return of Karl Brooks could help with pressure up the middle. 

   

LINEBACKERS:

Players Snaps % STs
McDuffie 63 100 6/25%
Cooper 62 98 3/12%
Hopper 17 27 19/79%
Welch 1 2 14/59%
Johnson     11/46%

 

McDuffie had 12 tackles (7 solo), with 2 tackles for loss.  He had 5 stops and a QB hit, per PFF.  He allowed 2 of 3 targets to be completed for only 7 yards.  McDuffie has been playing so much better than I ever imagined he was capable of.  Cooper had 8 tackles (2 solo) plus a QB hit.  He allowed all 3 targets to be completed for 56 yards and a 118 passer rating allowed.  Cooper had 5 stops including 4 tackles for no gain.    Hopper had 3 assisted tackles and 1 stop.  He allowed 1 target to be completed for 9 yards. 

 

DEFENSIVE BACKS:

Player Snaps % STs
McKinney 63 100 10/42%
Williams 63 100 8/33%
Valentine 63 100 4/17%
Nixon 63 100 4/17%
Bullard 43 68 6/25%
Anderson     15/62%
Olapado     13/54%
Hadden     2/8%

 

Mckinney had 5 tackles (3 solo) with a pass defensed and a QB hit.  PFF assigned 1 pressure, 1 stop and allowing 2 completions for 40 yards, good for a 158.3 passer rating allowed.  Evan Williams had  8 tackles (3 solo)  PFF assigned 3 completions on 4 targets for 18 yards and an 83.3 passer rating allowed. He had 3 stops and 1 pressure per PFF.  Nixon had 7 solo tackles and a tackle for loss.  PFF credited Nixon wtih allowing 4 of 5 passes to be completed for 61 yards and a 117.5 passer rating.  He was committed a penalty.  Bullard had 4 tackles (2 solo) and allowed 2 of 3 targets to be completed for 5 yards.  Valentine had 2 solo tackles.  PFF listed him as 2 of 3 passes to be completed for 48 yards and allowing a 148.3 passer rating.   He missed a tackle.  

SPECIAL TEAMS:

Whelan punted 2 times and averaged 67 yards but a net of 460.  McManus made all of extra points and his only field goals, a 45-yarder. 

OL: 5.22 (high but get used to high OL numbers)

RB: 1.02

TE: 1.33

WR: 2.41

DT: 1.91

DE: 2.14

LB: 2.27

DB: 4.68

 

Photo courtesy of David Regink of Imagn Images.

Statistics coutesy of NFLgsis and PFF.

 

 

 

 

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 28, 2025 at 07:01 am

This was a really close game. I thought Goff had a better looking pocket than Love even though that PFF stats indicate the Love got more time. Goff is pretty much a statue though he took off a couple of times in this game. Rolling out and/or running for one's life perhaps adds to the time to throw but all QBs are better in a clean pocket and while using a sound base rather than throwing on the run.

Rasheed recovering that fumble. Big but random.
3-3 on 4th downs. Going for it on 4th and 3.
Contested catches! GB probably caught half of their contested catches but they caught enough of them.
I don't want to see the return of the CM3 is the entire pass rush thing. Need pressure from Gary, Enagbare, Brooks, and now Brinson.
Expect Wooden, Brooks and Brinson to rotate. Look for a move by Gute.
McDuffie has been worth his $4M per year. I didn't like the move wanted them to sign a FA ILB. Wrong, I guess.
Bullard has played like he does not want to be replaced when Hobbs returns. Some nice games, recently.
Evan Williams playing like he wants it to be a no-brainer that he plays 100% of the snaps at safety.
Illegal contact penalty on Nixon was ticky tacky.
Nixon gave up a few but his tackles oozed physicality. Will he play for $5M next year?
Jameson Williams with a big drop on a 4th down. Refs ruling Wicks had possession immediately on his TD.
Really nice catch from Musgrave - the kind WRs make, not RBs and TEs so much.
The offensive line was good enough. Opened some holes, had some failed reps, but not too many outright whiffs or actual negative plays.
Another game that Love played at a high level, putting the team on his back. Very efficient.
GB leads the NFL in 3rd and long conversions, just 22nd (IIRC) on third down short conversions. Interesting
Detroit's RBs gained 100 yards on 28 carries, a 3.57 yd average. Goff's 24 yard scramble pushes it to 3.97 for the team. Gibbs looks great and really fun but GB did a good job.

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murf7777's picture

November 28, 2025 at 07:55 am

I agree it would be nice to see more pressure/sacks, but some of it is how Hafley plays defense. It would’ve helped if LVN didn’t get hurt again.

We have the second lowest blitz%. There are exceptions, but teams who blitz more will generally have more pressures/sacks. The key is getting the pressure when necessary and they mostly did it this game. I’m not overly concerned that Parsons is getting most of the pressures because the way Hafley deploys him makes it very difficult for teams to double him all the time.

This game truly showed who's becoming the boss in the North. I think da bears are fraudulent and it will be shown today against the Eagles and than the following Sunday when GB gives them a beat down and takes over the North for the season.

GB won from the start to finish, one of the best games of the year and if Valentine wraps up Williams in the backfield the game might’ve never came down to a one possession.

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barutanseijin's picture

November 28, 2025 at 07:08 am

The stats say the DBs outside of Williams had a bad game. They did seem to miss more tackles than usual. I wonder what Valentine’s numbers would look like had he made that tackle on Williams that went for a big gain. The Packers were probably most concerned with shutting down Gibbs and by and large, they did.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 28, 2025 at 07:18 am

Goff was 20 for 26 (76.92%) for 256 yards (9.85 yds/attempt) with 2 TDs and 0 Ints. A 132.9 passer rating. Yeah, most coverage guys probably had bad days. Detroit throws on rhythm.

Valentine was 2 for 3 for 48 yards. That pass to Williams for a touchdown at the end of the first half was a 22-yard gain. I think that is the one you're talking about. Valentine might have made a tackle for loss except for the whiff, So, 2 for 3 for 26 instead? That would be 93.75 passer rating (per PFR - see link below). Not bad as it is probably better than average.

7https://www.pro-football-reference.com/about/qb-rating.htm

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HawkPacker's picture

November 28, 2025 at 11:49 am

Valentine has to make that tackle. Wrap him up and don't just throw a cross body block. Bad play. Touchdown would not have happened.

Also, that ticky tack foul on Nixon as you stated should not have happened either. Still a bit disappointed with Nixon. We gave them that first down.

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PackfanNY's picture

November 28, 2025 at 12:25 pm

That is the second time this season at least that I can remember that Valentine made NO effort to wrap up on a “tackle” and it turned into a big gain. Hopefully one of the Coaches gets to him to nip that in the bud before it really burns us.

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dobber's picture

November 28, 2025 at 02:35 pm

That's part of why he was a 7th rounder: he didn't have a track record of being a physical player. I think one scouting report said that OC's will target him in the run game due to his lack of "want to" in tackling.

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murf7777's picture

November 28, 2025 at 07:26 am

Love some more Wicks…..I’ve been a Wicks supporter since the beginning….Wicks will make Doubs dispensable and he will be signed in FA by another team next season. Wicks is so good at getting separation at the LOS, reminds me of Adams, who was another I supported during his second year when many thought he was a bust. Next season the Packers will go with Watson, Reed, Golden and WIcks as their top 4.

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Guam's picture

November 28, 2025 at 07:46 am

Concur on the pass catchers next season Murf. Packers can't afford Doubs even though he is a good WR2. Hopefully he gets a big enough contract to bring get a good comp pick in return.

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DoubleJ's picture

November 28, 2025 at 08:05 am

Doubs should be WR4 right now and WR5 when Reed is back. He has had way too many drops this year for a guy that is a possession receiver.

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Guam's picture

November 28, 2025 at 08:14 am

Doubs only has five drops on the season and three of them came against Minny last Sunday (with two really bad ones). He has had one bad game out of twelve with dropsies this season. Someone will pay him well.

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DoubleJ's picture

November 28, 2025 at 09:13 am

I've seen more than 5 drops this season by him. He might not be credited with them but IMO he has closer to 10 drops. Someone will pay him and I hope it isn't GB. He is a decent WR but the Packers have better ones already.

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tobinrote's picture

November 28, 2025 at 07:43 am

evidently the coaching staff has determined that Morgan is another first round Gutey bust. I was so happy to see Wicks have such a great game; like the previous poster i always had a soft spot for him, for his blocking, route running, even when he had stone hands. and I could only register surprise at the very nice Musgrave catch, something he has given us no reason to suspect he was capable of. the Wyatt loss is likely to be quite devastating, it will mean Micah gets routinely triple teamed. Except for that awful missed throw on his scramble in the first quarter Love played a truly excellent game. and the Parsons trade looks truly to be a total no-brainer.

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Guam's picture

November 28, 2025 at 07:48 am

I wouldn't give up on Morgan just yet. His quick feet and good balance will serve him well at tackle. He just isn't strong enough to move NFL DTs but he should fare better against fast pass rushers.

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TheBigO's picture

November 28, 2025 at 10:26 am

Morgan was drafted to be the replacement for Rasheed Walker and likely starts at LT next year after #63 leaves in free agency. He is not built for a power gap scheme on the inside--he is not a road-grader. Go back to his pre-season where he nearly pitched a shut-out on the blind side (even against starting-level Edge Rushers).

If we were still running an inside zone-blocking system, he would have fared much better due to his agility and overall athletic traits. But he was never a fit for the current system on the interior.

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GregC's picture

November 28, 2025 at 04:03 pm

Not too big a surprise that Musgrave made that catch. He's always had good hands. His problems are that he doesn't block well, and he tumbles to the ground as soon as he is touched by a defender (and sometimes when he isn't touched at all).

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

November 28, 2025 at 05:43 pm

He actually got a decent blocking grade against the Vikings I believe. Maybe he's upping his game a bit. I saw at least one nice chip block by him yesterday.

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Guam's picture

November 28, 2025 at 07:44 am

I thought the O-line played really well. Before the game there was much talk of Hutchinson being a game wrecker, but his name was hardly mentioned during the broadcast. The OL shut him down almost completely (no sacks, no TFLs, three tackles, three assists). Many of the Packer running plays seemed to go left behind Walker and Banks with both doing fine jobs. Belton was a positive at RG and Rhyan is proving to be a more than serviceable center. The O-line may finally be gelling after a rough first half of the season.

The loss of Wyatt is going to hurt this defense. He was the lone DT that could generate pressure from the inside. Really unfortunate.

The WRs played very well and made a number of contested catches - the opposite of last season when they were dropping wide open passes.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 28, 2025 at 08:14 am

PFF fwiw:

6 pressures: Alim McNeil - 6 hurries. 18.2% is great for a DT
5 pressures: Aidan Hutchinson, all hurries though
3 pressures: LB Derrick Barnes
2 pressures: Tyleik Williams 1 hurry, 1 QB hit.
1 pressure: Marcus Davenport 1 hurry, Pretty invisible.
1 pressure: Roy Lopez IDL 1 hurry

That is kind of a lot of pressure up the middle from IDL McNeil (310 lbs), Williams (327) and Lopez (312). 18 pressures is not terrible when on some plays multiple players might get a hurry. I do think Love broke from the pocket more than I would like for it to be necessary. At least he is pretty good outside the pocket.

1 pressure: Gary, Cooper, McDuffie, McKinney
2 pressures: Enagbare 15.4%.
6 pressures: Parsons. 3 hurries, 3 sacks 22.2% pressure rate.

No IDL pressure, all Edge and LBs and DBs.

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Guam's picture

November 28, 2025 at 08:31 am

Appreciate the info TGR. To some extent this is PFF versus the eye test for me. Detroit uses a short, rhythm, "get the ball out quick" passing attack which allows little time for pressure to develop. The Packers have a much more "down the field" passing attack which allows more time for pressure to develop. So by the nature of the two offenses the Detroit defense should have more pressure stats than Green Bay's.

The fact that Love was never sacked and Goff was sacked multiple times was the big difference maker for me in evaluating the O-lines.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 28, 2025 at 09:24 am

Agreed. And I agree with the person above who mentioned that the Packers don't blitz very much. Getting the ball out quickly likely hurts pass rushers like Gary whose pressures sometimes take a little more time to happen.

I also wondered about Rhyan and Belton now. It seems to me that Belton can sometimes physically move an opponent out of a gap and push the defender back. Rhyan is also a larger OL and quite large for a center. I am wondering if that is the reason for some of these explosive runs and explains why there is some inconsistency in the running game since Belton is young and a little more hit or miss on his blocking assignments. I think it is too early but I can watch for it now in the future. There was a nice video clip of a previous game where Belton and Rhyan sealed off two DL and moved them back which opened a beautiful hole right up the middle on a touchdown run.

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Bitternotsour's picture

November 28, 2025 at 09:38 am

c'mon guam, are you going to believe the stats of a quality analytics firm, or your lying eyes.

remember, it's the best algorithm that wins, not the players on the field.

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Guam's picture

November 28, 2025 at 10:10 am

"There are lies, damn lies and then there are statistics." Never a truer statement was made.

I know analytics are the current vogue and I have a Masters in Applied Mathematics so I probably understand this crap fairly well, but CONTEXT MATTERS. Statistics without context can be dangerous.

Which is why I like my lying eyes............

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Bitternotsour's picture

November 28, 2025 at 12:57 pm

I get the analytics angle, people bet on football and try to use math to somehow ameliorate their actual lack of game understanding.

Word to the wise, don't bet on football. It distorts your enjoyment, and wastes your money.

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Leatherhead's picture

November 28, 2025 at 01:07 pm

I got talked into making a bet this weekend. It's $10, and I have to pick all 13 games correctly, and if I do, it'll pay off for $70K. I got all of yesterday's games right, so only 10 more to go.

Today, I have Philly beating Chicago.

Sunday, I have the home team winning, except for SF/Cleveland and Atl/Jets.

If I win the 70K, I'm going to be taking a long cruise. If I lose, I'll be out $10.

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Bitternotsour's picture

November 28, 2025 at 04:59 pm

the winners tell jokes...

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Bitternotsour's picture

November 28, 2025 at 05:01 pm

also, like all bettors, the use of the if requires significant heavy lifting. if only.

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TheBigO's picture

November 28, 2025 at 10:31 am

Belton was "serviceable." He succeeds when he can just line up, charge straight ahead, and bulldoze the DT in front of him. And we do ask him to do just that quite a bit. But he gave up 5 QB pressures and let a number of DTs get around him on several running plays. If he can improve his blocking against DTs who are using lateral quickness, he will be a long-term starter in the NFL.

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Leatherhead's picture

November 28, 2025 at 01:09 pm

The book on him coming out on the draft was "mauler in the run game".

Remember when he jumped on 4th and goal (and the refs bailed him out)? Would you call that a 'rookie mistake'? I would.

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tobinrote's picture

November 28, 2025 at 07:44 am

p.s. again MacDuffie played very very well. No need to get Quay back on the field.

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Guam's picture

November 28, 2025 at 07:51 am

The Lions are a run first team which plays to McDuffie's strength. A pass first team will expose McDuffie more. Quay is a better pass defender.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

November 28, 2025 at 11:12 pm

Very silly. You don't intentionally get rid of players like #7. That's not a slight against #55, I love the way he always plays his heart out.

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Leatherhead's picture

November 28, 2025 at 07:49 am

You (and I ) have a different view of McDuffie than Kalani Jones, who gave him a lame ball.

I don’t see a miracle replacement for Wyatt.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 28, 2025 at 08:21 am

I have not read Kalani's article yet. I will now. McDuffie missed a tackle., but his coverage was 2 of 3 targets for 7 yards and he had 5 run stops 2 games in a row where McDuffie overcame his weakness.

Edit: I read game balls and lame calls. His point I gather was McDuffie did not get proper depth when he dropped back into coverage. So, PFF's methodology would be really important. I remember the national broadcast showing a replay of a pass just over the outstretched hand of McDuffie. PFF clearly did not consider that play as occurring in his coverage zone since it was a longer completion than the 7 yards PFF thinks McDuffie gave up. The thing is, that same thing happens often in the NFL. Need a film guy to see if McDuffie was hitting his landmarks on his drops - hell, I don't know where those landmarks even are. Making that determination is above my pay grade, especially when watching it live on just the broadcast feed.

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Leatherhead's picture

November 28, 2025 at 12:54 pm

At the end of the day, there's a big subjective variable in PFFs evaluations.

Here are facts: Mcduffie was signed in the offseason to a two year deal. He's our #3 LB, and when we have 3 on the field, he's there. He's also available if Cooper or Walker isn't, and yesterday he played 100% of the defensive snaps.

Why would the coaches play him 100% of the snaps unless they wanted him on the field? Are they completely oblivious to his utter ineptitude against the pass? Or maybe, just maybe, they realize he's a competent defender?

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Lphill's picture

November 28, 2025 at 08:25 am

great road win against a division foe and on Thanksgiving , its great to celebrate the good but you can't overlook the bad , Nixon was running his mouth but not backing it up, Gary should be feasting with Parsons getting all the attention this is concerning ,Hafley has to figure it out.

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Razer's picture

November 28, 2025 at 08:35 am

I too would like to see Nixon play a more consistent brand of ball. Likes to talk and posture on the field then gets caught or takes an unnecessary penalty. He has the physical talent just needs to get out of his own way mentally.

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Bitternotsour's picture

November 28, 2025 at 10:05 am

Nixon talking on the field is a part of who he is. Rather than seeing it as a negative, consider it part of his personal preparation and give him some grace. You might not understand his motivations, but he does.

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barutanseijin's picture

November 28, 2025 at 09:01 am

I’m not going to fault him for that illegal contact call. After watching the Lions shove and grab Packers receivers, he probably thought the refs wouldn’t call anything on the brief contact he made.

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Leatherhead's picture

November 28, 2025 at 12:59 pm

As good a place as any.....

I thought the officiating wasn't very good yesterday, particularly on the amount of contact against receivers that was permitted. The one where Watson went up with one arm.....because that's the way he likes to catch footballs, apparently, .....and the ref is right there and it doesn't even occur to him that there was a reason he went up with one hand?

The Belton offsides/timeout......looked like offsides to me.

The first TD by Wicks......there was a guy yesterday who repeatedly said the refs gave that TD to the Packers, even after being told numerous times that the right foot was down when he caught it, then the left. The next step landed out of bounds, but it doesn't matter because he already had two feet down. So, the refs got that right. It wasn't a gift. We earned that.

Here's the thing. Players make mistakes. Coaches make mistakes. And officials make mistakes. As long as they're just mistakes, I can live with that. Sometimes, calls are just suspiciously bad, and that bothers me.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

November 28, 2025 at 11:19 pm

Belton was offsides, but MLF has been calling for time out before that. The video doesn't capture the audio, so yes it LOOKS like it was a gift from the refs. I don't know why MLF started calling for the time out before he started gesturing for it? That might be his biggest screw up all day; big improvement from our HC.

If they win out that will be 8 wins in a row. Who will be a harder game than Detroit? Denver maybe, but that's it. It would be surprising if GB starts playing this well consistently, but if they do they might finish 13 - 3 - 1.

GPG!!

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lou's picture

November 28, 2025 at 09:11 am

Yes Wilson only ran for 14 yards on 4 carries but 2 of those runs produced first downs. My guess is based on the heavy load he carried the prior Sunday they limited his reps as long as Jacobs stayed healthy. It is nice to see that the offensive line continues to improve week to week especially with these divisional games, give the coaching staff props for making the move to insert Belton at guard and to use Kinnard in special packages because it has made a noticeable difference in performance.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

November 28, 2025 at 11:21 pm

Banks Rhyan Belton on the inside might prove to be a winning combination? Nobody was thinking of that in the preseason ...

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 28, 2025 at 01:32 pm

For whatever reason, Belton has come up a few times. I found this film review of Belton's play against Detroit up already. I don't agree with all of this analysis as it seems to always be a little kind to Belton. Still, he is a guy who I can envision getting better this year as he gets reps.

It does not like me linking so many outside links. Add the obvious stuff or it is called "Packers Rookie Anthony Belton Dominated Detroit/Film Review bu Saturday Morning Inspect.

ww.youtube.com/watch?v=6JluvbhYlC4&t=331s

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 28, 2025 at 01:46 pm

At 13:40 mark, I don't like what I saw from Whyle. He comes down to block and realizes it is Hutchinson. Whyle does not deliver a blow and just half-heartedly bounces off. Hutchinson clogs the lane and makes the play. Yes, Kinnard whiffs and Rhyan is so-so. Belton does some good things.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

November 28, 2025 at 11:23 pm

I agree with your assessment that Belton seems likely to improve if they keep playing him. Unfortunately this is the part of the season when we need everybody at their best RIGHT NOW.

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Leatherhead's picture

November 28, 2025 at 01:56 pm

I checked that out. A pretty good show by a rookie in a big game. Was there any other rookie on either side of the ball that had a bigger game? When he gets to block to his left, and Tom holds his ground, there's a big ol' hole up the middle. I'd run behind that until somebody stopped it, but that's just me.

Morgan, Glover, Monk...not a very productive class yet. It's good to see that we might have a player in Belton.

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

November 28, 2025 at 05:50 pm

Glover and Monk were 5th and 6th rounders, so less expectations. I would see Morgan as the swing tackle right now, ready to take over for Walker when he goes next year. They won't be able to afford him. They tried to make Morgan into a guard but I don't think that plays to his strengths.

Not a productive class?

Cooper, Bullard and Williams are basically all starters and all are playing well. Hopper and Oladapo are decent or better backups at this point and injuries have limited the late round picks Monk and Glover. I wouldn't be surprised if Monk is the starting center next season though and Glover the swing tackle.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

November 28, 2025 at 11:25 pm

It would really help if we had some idea of what we have in Monk.

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