Packers Snap Counts: Week 4 Vs. The Vikings
The Packers played hot potato with the football in a loss to the Vikings.

The Packers elevated two CBs, Robert Rochell and Kamal Hadden, due to injuries that prevented Jaire Alexander and Carrington Valentine from playing. Kitan Olapado, Brenton Cox, Travis Glover, and Colby Wooden were healthy scratches while Jordan Morgan, Alexander, and Valentine were inactive due to injury. Malik Willis was active but did not play. Wyatt and Watson left the game and did not return.
OFFENSIVE LINE:
| Player | Snaps | % | ST |
| Jenkins | 76 | 100 | |
| Tom | 76 | 100 | 5/17% |
| Walker | 76 | 100 | 5/17% |
| Rhyan | 76 | 100 | 5/17% |
| Myers | 76 | 100 | |
| Dillard | 5/17% | ||
| Telfort | 5/17% | ||
| Monk | 5/17% |
The offensive line held up reasonably well in this contest. The Packers rushed 19 times for 86 yards, a 4.5-yard average with a long of only 13. The Packers rushed for 43 yards in the first half. This game was perfectly adequate if unspectacular. The Packers converted 4 of 5 red zone opportunities. It is a little unusual for those touchdown plays to come on pass plays of 17, 15, 13 and 6 yards. The Packers did not have a rushing touchdown. Not being able to punch it in on the ground is a long-term issue for the Packers, and reflects their emphasis on pass blocking when the draft linemen.
The line allowed 10 quarterback hits but just one sack. Part of that is attempting a whopping 54 passes, but it translated into a lot of pressure. A big part of the Vikings pass rush is to show as many as 8 defenders who might rush the passer and force the line to get their assignments straight. It was not unusual for Love to have lots of time, but too often there was pressure. Tom whiffed on a speed rush and Emanuel Wilson took the inside rusher on another play only to be unable to recover to the outside when the Vikings ran a stunt. Jenkins had a false start.
This offense has revolved around the quarterback, Reed, Kraft, and Jacobs. The other skill-position players are no more than contributors. Reed is the big-play guy and also the volume receiver a team can rely on, at least when one combines targets with carries. Kraft does not get a lot of targets but he gets some every game and he is asked to make a lot of blocks, including blocks on the big defensive linemen, something he could not do last year. It would be nice if some other skill position guys stepped up.
QUARTERBACK:
| Player | Snaps | % | ST |
| Love | 76 | 100 | |
| Willis | DNP |
Love played every snap. He was often inaccurate while his receivers did him no favors. DB Flores certainly keeps the opposing quarterback thinking with his scheme. Love's play was eerily reminiscent of the first half of the 2023 season. Too many balls were thrown with poor placement with the problem often being too low and lacking zip. He also threw another hospital ball. In the first half Love completed 12 of 24 passes for 118 yards, 1 TD and 2 interceptions. Love completed 20 of 30 passes in the second half for 271 yards, 3 TDs and 1 interception. Love finished with an 83 passer rating.
TIGHT ENDS:
| Player | Snaps | % | ST |
| Kraft | 65 | 86 | 8/28% |
| Musgrave | 25 | 33 | 6/21% |
| Sims | 2 | 3 | 6/21% |
Tucker Kraft caught 6 of his 9 targets for 53 yards, including a short completion that he turned into 21-yard touchdown by making someone miss. Kraft has shown a propensity to either make guys miss or just break the tackle to obtain lots of yards after the catch. Kraft had a holding call, though it at least is the block that turned a modest gain into a long run by Wilson. He also missed a block.
Luke Musgrave caught all 3 of his targets for 13 yards with a long of 5. The Packers are certainly giving him a lot of snaps for little return. Musgrave showed last year that he can be a mismatch as a receiver. So far he has caught 5 of 7 passes for 22 yards and is on pace to finish with 94 receiving yards for the season. Part of that is Love being out and a resulting reluctance to throw over the middle. The media suggest that he is a willing blocker if not particularly effective. That is fine, but he did not get any better at blocking, and it strongly appears that LaFleur's tight end has to be able to block defensive ends.
RUNNING BACKS:
| Player | Snaps | % | ST |
| Jacobs | 46 | 61 | |
| Wilson | 30 | 39 |
Jacobs gained 51 yards on just 9 carries while Wilson gained 27 yards on 8 carries. Jacobs caught 4 of 6 passes for 24 yards while Wilson did not catch his only target. I thought both ran hard and got what was blocked and a mite more. After writing last week that I was comfortable with Wilson's pass protection he misplayed a stunt that got Love crunched. Before they fell way behind it seemed as though the Packers were rotating Jacobs and Wilson by series. That bears watching.
WIDE RECEIVERS:
| Player | Snaps | % | ST |
| Doubs | 65 | 86 | |
| Reed | 59 | 78 | 4/14% |
| Wicks | 58 | 76 | |
| Melton | 11 | 14 | 14/48% |
| Heath | 10 | 13 | 10/34% |
| Watson | 9 | 12 |
All of the skill position players have to stop using so much pass repellent. That said, I find Love's inaccuracy so far this season eerily reminiscent of the first half of the 2023 season. There is no need to put the blame on the receivers as a group or on the quarterbacks: there is more than enough blame to go around. The receivers are outright dropping too many of the accurate pass while not making enough difficult catches, while the quarterbacks are throwing too many difficult-to-catch passes.
Jayden Reed caught 7 of his 8 passes for 139 yards, a 19.9-yard average, with a touchdown, and rushed once for 2 yards. He is both one of the big-play guys and and he is getting to more of a volume target guy. The Packers won the only game Reed missed last season (it was against the hapless 2-15 Panthers and it was close): I have trouble imagining a win were Reed unavailable. I think there is more than enough talent on the team to win without Reed, but it is like imagining the universe without one of the four fundamental forces (gravity, electromagnetism, the strong and weak nuclear forces).
Doubs caught 4 of his 8 targets for 39 yards. He is steady and does some of the dirty work while being where he is supposed to be. Doubs led the Packers in targets last year; while it is close now with Doubs, Reed and Wicks neck and neck in targets, I expect Reed to get the more targets over the rest of the season, and very likely Wicks as well. Doubs is a nice number three wide receiver. I suppose I will just have to get used to holding my breath every time they throw a quick out to Doubs to see if he is going to double-clutch it or if he secures it while he is still in bounds.
Wicks caught 5 of 13 passes for 78 yards and 2 TDs. He dropped another (low) pass that looked like it might have been a touchdown. The talent is there. It just seems like his hands are like magnets that repel footballs. He has caught 8 or his 22 targets (36.36% - brutal) so far this season. Pro Football Reference listed Wicks with 2 drops coming into the Vikings game (I find PFR very lenient or I am a harsh grader). I suspect they will list him with 4 drops when they update the stats, but it could be more. Heath caught 2 passes for 12 and Melton caught 1 for 28 and again was good on special teams, recovering a muffed punt.
DEFENSIVE LINEMEN:
| Player | Snaps | % | ST |
| Clark | 55 | 81 | 1/3% |
| Slaton | 33 | 49 | 11/38% |
| Brooks | 27 | 40 | 5/17% |
| Wyatt | 25 | 37 | 2/7% |
Clark finished with 4 tackles (3 solo). He seemed a bit more active. I thought one of his tackles was for loss, but I guess it was for no gain. Wyatt had 3 tackles (2 solo) one of which was a tackle for loss. Brooks had 2 tackles (1 solo). Slaton had 2 assisted tackle and 1 quarterback hit, one of only 3 QB hits the Packers had. The Vikings' RBs gained 98 yards on 25 carries, a 3.92-yard average. The Packers are relying on getting some interior pass rush, and given the new emphasis on disruption, something more than just a good general push. Brooks did not make a jump and Wooden can even get activated.
EDGE:
| Player | Snaps | % | ST |
| Gary | 45 | 66 | 1/3% |
| Smith | 44 | 65 | 1/3% |
| Van Ness | 24 | 35 | 12/41% |
| Enagbare | 23 | 34 | 12/41% |
| Mosby | 12/41% |
Gary had 4 solo tackles while Van Ness added 3 solo tackles. Preston Smith had 2 assisted tackles and Enagbare had no statistics. I do not recall the Edge players getting very many pressures. If the opponent has two good offensive tackles, it seems like they are going to score 30 plus.
LINEBACKERS:
| Player | Snaps | % | ST |
| Walker | 68 | 100 | 7/24% |
| McDuffie | 52 | 76 | 10/34% |
| Er Wilson | 26 | 38 | 24/83% |
| Cooper | 21 | 31 | 5/17% |
| Hopper | 14/48% |
The Packers played 2.45 ILBs per play. That is a lot of base looks. Ballentine played perimeter CB in nickel but Nixon moved out and played the perimeter CB spot opposite Stokes when they were in base.
Quay Walker had 8 tackles (6 solo) and a sack off a blitz. He blitzed a couple of other times but got picked up. McDuffie had 6 tackles (2 solo) and had a pass defensed. Cooper had 4 solo tackles, one of which was a tackle for loss, and a fumble recovery. Cooper's change of direction really pops off the film. Eric Wilson had 2 tackles (1 solo). Wilson got toasted on a backside crosser to the tight end to give the Vikings their second touchdown. Tight ends and RBs caught 9 or 10 passes for 79 yards against the Packers, which is too efficient for my taste. Hopper had an assisted tackle on special teams.
SECONDARY:
| Player | Snaps | % | ST |
| Nixon | 66 | 97 | 13/45% |
| Stokes | 66 | 97 | 2/7% |
| Ballentine | 37 | 54 | 7/24% |
| Rochell | 11/38% | ||
| Hadden | 3/10% | ||
| McKinney | 68 | 100 | 12/41% |
| Bullard | 57 | 84 | 12/41% |
| Williams | 10 | 15 | 15/52% |
| Anderson | 17/59% |
That is a pretty tight rotation. Only six players received any defensive snaps. Nixon and Stokes each had 7 tackles, with Nixon also getting a sack/forced fumble on a unblocked blitz. McKinney had 4 tackles (2 solo) and an interception that somehow survived instant replay. Bullard had 4 tackles (2 solo) with one being a tackle for loss. Ballentine had 2 solo tackles and Zayne Anderson had a special teams tackle. The Vikings had time to run quite a few double moves. Darnold completed 71.4% of his passes and had a very healthy 9.74 yards per attempt. Darnold's passer rating was 123.4.
The Packers have shown that they are reasonably competent, enough so as to be able to put the clamps on a team with an average to below average offense.
SPECIAL TEAMS:
Narveson made all 4 of his extra point attempts and missed all of his field goal attempts (37 and 49 yards, respectively). Whelan had some monstrous punts.
TE: 1.21
RB: 1.00
WR: 2.79
DL: 2.06
Edge: 2.00
ILB: 2.46 (pretty high)
DB: 4.47 (pretty low)
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Comments (22)
Thegreatreynoldo
September 30, 2024 at 06:49 am
I forgot about Nixon missing the tackle on Addison 7-yard touchdown run. To be fair, that would have been an outstanding play had Nixon made it. Also, MN got the ball at the GB 4 yard line after an interception and had a shortish field (GB 46 yard line) on another TD. Addison torched Ballentine with a double move for MN's first TD (I couldn't remember who are CB was on that play).
tobinrote
September 30, 2024 at 07:16 am
the things that most stood out for me was Love's consistently throwing at the ankles though he got a bit better in the second half and wicks's stone hands. i would play heath or melton ahead of him. i am not sure Love was ready to play and i think i would have had Willis go one more game. i could not help myself, but i wanted aaron jones to have a monster game; as it was he a good game. I am I must admit a Love skeptic and think of him as in the middle of the pack of the league's qbs.
as usual TGR gives the most useful game commentary with a close second to Jersey Al midweek.
GregC
September 30, 2024 at 07:28 am
Very true about Jordan Love's play being eerily reminiscent of the first half of last season. Another way to put it is that rather than looking like a top-tier QB, he looks more like Derek Carr, i.e., he makes a lot of great throws but he is not consistent and sometimes he just chucks it up there to see what will happen when it comes down. Both of his starts have been a little weird, with a bad field in Brazil and now looking rusty coming back from an injury. I think he will get better. Still, it's disappointing that he did not hit the ground running this season.
I don't know what to make of Luke Musgrave. He's their big-play TE who can get down the seam, but they just throw short stuff to him. It's like they've written him out of the offense. Love said that the pass Musgrave tipped that got intercepted was intended for Doubs.
I had heard that the Vikings had good OTs but were vulnerable in the middle of the line, so I thought our DTs might be difference makers in this game. It didn't happen at all. Wyatt did nothing and then got hurt. Karl Brooks was invisible. The lack of pass rush doomed the CBs, who had to hold coverage too long. It looked like the mush rush they used against Jalen Hurts and Anthony Richardson, but of course that's not what it was. It was just everyone losing their matchups on almost every pass rush attempt. The only two sacks were on blitzes, but there were other blitzes that didn't get home.
For the second year in a row, we have one of the worst kickers in the league. With Anders Carlson, I clung to this hope that he just had a mechanical kink that he had to straighten out, or maybe he needed to mature a little, but Narveson just looks like a flat-out bad kicker. The announcers said he was missing a lot of kicks during warmups.
T7Steve
September 30, 2024 at 08:06 am
I think Love looked like he was in training camp last week and needed to get some game reps to get up to speed. Glad he got that out of the way.
The D is starting to show a propensity for starting slowly. Good teams are going to make any D look like that though. They also had to try to make up for major contributors sitting out in the back end. Don't you think the DC should start to dial up the front-end pressure sooner? It seems to work when he finally does, and it would have sure helped the back end get settled. Finding out JA and CV weren't playing at game time sure surprised me. I must have missed that during the week. I thought they were just light practicing and would be good for game day.
I don't think they can ignore the kicking issues any longer. Are they going to have to start going for forth downs and two-point conversions all the time again?
Coldworld
September 30, 2024 at 08:15 am
There is no doubt in my mind that the cause of that debacle falls squarely on the coaches. LaFleur for preparation and discipline and rushing Love back when it took him 2/3 of a game to start to look ready. However the lions share of culpability goes to Hafley.
It has become clear with Cousins and the similar Darnold that given a clean pocket they can and will make throws. It’s similarly clear that, regardless of who plays corner, defending Jefferson and Addison playing soft off coverage is doomed. To win one needs to take some risks and play sticky and attack the catch point and look to disrupt more than one concedes. At the front, you need to get pressure any which way you can. Against this line that’s up the middle and probably means blitzing and stunting heavily.
Hafley had a game plan that was the exact opposite. My heart sank as I watched their first drive. The results seemed inevitable. They were. The sad reality is that any study of past games should have made that a hugely obvious mistake. As should any knowledge of what our DBs are best at and what those WRs have thrived upon (not just against us). If I could grade Hafley on that it would be so far below the chard as to be indescribable politely. One would think, if they discussed the approach, LaFleur could have set him straight immediately. That’s the kind of thing a true HC does.
Hafley did adjust, all though he back slid on DB coverage on the drive that gave them their last field goal in no seconds flat. A different knock on Hadley is his fixation on Nixon. Not only will he not get others in the slot, but, and here is the line crossed, he played him outside at times with typical results. Rochell is a better athlete and natural cover corner. He may not have done better, but he may well have. It would be hard to be less effective outside. That needs not to happen again. Again, one of the roles of a head coach.
The Packers were our prepared and whipped tactically. The second half showed that Darnold is Darnold if you can heft him sensing pressure and that that team can be run on. It can be caught on too, though aside from Doubs and particularly Reed, perhaps not by the Packers. Wicks catch rate should have him sitting. I found it odd you cast shade on Doubs but excuse a guy who struggles even if it hosts him mid chest and was body catching in the late game. Wicks gets open, but for 3 of 4 games this season has been so bad catching we’d be better off throwing to another at his position. No catch reliability or radius.
This game was lost by the coaches and the second half just showed how much better we could be than they were. Eerily reminiscent of early last year when the team only came alive in second halves after the scripts were done and LaFleur had to give more latitude to his players. Hopefully Hafley learns fast, but I admit the fact that he needed to learn to this extent really weakens my faith in his acuity or at least greatly increases my view of his needed learning curve. I will leave him with a hint: the Lions and Goff will do the same to us if you try that again. An opportunity wasted. An example of how coaching can undermine writ large.
Thegreatreynoldo
September 30, 2024 at 10:28 am
I think we have seen Doubs' ceiling. While getting #2 WR number of snaps, he put up 40 yards per game, 61% catch percentage, and below average yards after catch and targets per game numbers. That production screams #3 WR to me. His PFF grade of 62 (68 last year) is in rough accord. I think he has gotten his drops under control and has a good eye for where the sticks are (not unlike Jamaal Williams, another nice player who nevertheless should not be the #1 RB. That is a good result for a 4th round pick. While I expect Doubs to have a nice long NFL career, I admit that I was and am dissing him to a certain extent as fans overestimate their own guys, especially likeable ones. Heck, I gave Doubs his own section in my practice roundup articles when he was a rookie - it is not like I dislike the guy.
I don't think we have seen Wicks' ceiling yet. Last year as a rookie his 67% catch percentage, 62% success percentage, his yards per target (10 yds/attempt !!) were all higher than Doubs' best numbers, and he had a lower drop percentage. His 78 PFF grade sounded right. He put up 580 receiving yards in just 458 snaps. His yards per snap and yards per route run were very good, and he is a good blocker. I don't know why he can't cold this year. I suppose I remain enthralled by his route running. I certainly am going to give him plenty of rope to turn it around. I did note that his catch percentage was brutal. His PFF grade for 2024 was 58 and I expect that to drop like a stone after this monstrosity.
Coldworld
September 30, 2024 at 11:30 am
Doubs does a lot of dirty work. I remind you of his playoff performance. He’s never going to be Jefferson, but he’s a darn good piece to have. At this point, Reed aside, I’d take him over Watson and Wicks, simply because he is willing to fill that role.
If you want to point a finger at players who are not living up to billing or required standards, look no further than Wicks, who has had multiple bad drops in 3 of 4 games and was body catching yesterday. Yes he gets open often but with his drop rate that’s as likely a lost down as a completion. This was Wicks in 2022. 2023 seemed a revelation. It’s very concerning to see a reversion and I do not know why. More so now we’ve lost Watson who, while he hadn’t made strides hoped for, was at least trending positively.
Actually the player that I think might fall completely off the map if he doesn’t snap out of it is Musgrave. I fear he’s a shadow of his pre-Injury self. He’s playing small, posing no threat and getting pushed around. Statistically he’s a non entity this year. I don’t know how long he should continue getting snaps. LaFleur’s unwillingness to adapt to play over expectations may be the only reason he’s getting them now.
PFFs grades are largely nuts this week. Particularly Slaton who was our most effective (per them) rusher per snap but they ding for not stopping Jones and Kraft, dinged for blocking. At least they confirm that it wasn’t E. Wilson who missed the block that got love sacked (which I thought was an erroneous claim). They did like Williams a lot, thought R Walker had a good game at T and thought Q Walker had a pretty good game too, which I felt as well. Overall though, some strange grading even by their standards and observations.
Thegreatreynoldo
September 30, 2024 at 11:58 am
I just posted the top 5/bottom 5 stuff below. I don't subscribe. I agree that the grades didn't make sense, at least not to me.
PFF said that the sack wasn;t on Wilson? I remember thinking in real time that just when I write I am comfortable with Wilson's pass pro he lets Love get crunched. They also wrote that Tom wasn't charged with the sack. I couldn't remember which one allowed the sack, but I thought they both allowed QB hits.
Guess I will have to watch some tape.
GregC
September 30, 2024 at 10:41 am
Your suggestions all sound reasonable, but I wouldn't put this loss all on the coaches. Let's consider some of the problems the players had: Jordan Love made too many poor throws for a QB of his caliber, the receivers were unable to secure some catches that they could have made, the OL was shaky in pass protection, our pass rushers won almost none of their matchups, and the CBs were unable to cover WRs. That last one is not a surprise at all, considering that we were without our best two CBs against one of the better WR groups in the league. Hafley relied on his four-man rush to get through so he could drop 7 into coverage and give those CBs some help, but the pass rush failed. There's only so much you can do when you are outmanned.
Coldworld
September 30, 2024 at 11:53 am
No one covers Jefferson and Addison playing off, or at least no one has successfully. That is squarely the fault of the coach for that and the compounding utter absence of anything but vanilla 4 man rush for over a half against a QB known to be night and day worse when flustered. Thats the coach and it’s a staggeringly poor take on known players and past experiences of the packers both.
Love was indeed off, and he clearly wasn’t ready. Love doesn’t put himself out there, LaFleur does. Hindsight clearly suggests a week of full practice (in snap terms) was needed. Thats not to say Willis would have won the game or that he’s better. Love eventually showed us where he can be, but too late and at the cost of Watson.
Major Snafu
September 30, 2024 at 08:17 am
Your report confirms my thinking, the Vikes came in with a specific game plan. attack our pass defense.
Yes they have had a very good passing game but they almost abandoned the run because passong for big yardage was easy. You keep doing what works.
I see zero difference between this defense then Barrys other the pass rushing assignments.
Hafly cant make a silk pusrse from a pigs ear anymore then barry could. We gave no talent o pass d.
Guam
September 30, 2024 at 08:33 am
Lots of individual problems are causing team failure.
Love was not stepping into his throws in the first half and resulted in a number of short throws. He got better in the second half but still had a couple of underthrows. The problem is likely due to his injured left knee and hopefully will get better.
D. Wicks caught everything thrown at him last year and is dropping most passes thrown at him this year. Not sure if this is a concentration problem or something else but he doesn't look like the same receiver. He will be passed by Melton and Heath if he doesn't clean up this issue. Receivers are there to catch the damn ball.
Narveson. All his misses are to the right. Like a golfer with a bad slice, he can't seem to correct it. Likely time for a new kicker.
D-line (all of 'em). An inconsistent bunch that fluctuates in their ability to generate pressure. If Hafley's D needs consistent pressure from a front four to succeed, then the Packers need several of these guys to step up. Clark, Smith and Gary are the big contract guys and they need to pressure better for this defense to succeed.
Lots of football left.
MitchAnthony
September 30, 2024 at 11:25 am
When a kicker gets his chance, the team gets one chance. One chance to make that kick. When a receiver gets his chance, the team may get another chance unless it is a go for it on fourth down chance or game on the line catch. Line it up and try again.
I say that because there is rightful criticism of the kicker's woes but in the big picture of this game I think Wicks left more points on the field than Narveson, or at least the same amount of points. That throw to him in the end zone pretty much nailed him in the numbers. It was a perfect ball to catch. Catch it! On the first drive at the Minnesota 14 he dropped one that was going to be at least a first down if not maybe a score opportunity. Make that catch and there's likely no 37 yard doinker.
In the McCarthy days Big Mike would have a dog house waiting for Wicks. Not saying that was the right way but there needs to be a consequence for poor play. Sure hands needs to get snaps.
NFLfan
September 30, 2024 at 11:26 am
-Not certain if Clark, Gary or Smith were ever elite. They also look as though they have reached their ceiling. I don't expect any of them to be anything more than what we've recently seen.
-The corner room has been weak all year. Who decided to pay Nixon 18M (over 3 years)to be a slot cornerback? He is not a cornerback.
(Maybe Snoop Dogg pulled some strings-lol) Most of the nation knows GB has a weak CB room.
- The linebackers are substandard.
I have come to the conclusion that the common denominator is Gutekunst- someone with defensive savvy needs to accompany him on his next Draft adventure
I don't know what Hafley is capable of but he does not have the personnel.
GregC
September 30, 2024 at 01:09 pm
Yes, the corner room is weak......when they are playing without their top two corners.
Thegreatreynoldo
September 30, 2024 at 11:44 am
PFF stuff:
1. RT Zach Tom: 89.0
2. WR Jayden Reed: 75.7
3. LT Rasheed Walker: 74.0
4. RB Emanuel Wilson: 71.5
5. QB Jordan Love: 68.8
1. TE Luke Musgrave: 49.3
2. LG Elgton Jenkins: 55.3
3. TE Tucker Kraft: 55.6
4. WR Romeo Doubs: 55.9
5. WR Malik Heath: 57.4
So, Wicks was higher than Doubs and somewhere between 57 and 68? I don't think so, but what do I know. That seems very harsh on Kraft, who made mistakes, even egregious mistakes, but who also made things happen. Doubs ran 51 routes and only caught 4 passes while catching 1 or 3 contested catches? WTH? I thought I was dissing Doubs at least a little bit, but 55.9?
1. S Xavier McKinney: 91.0
2. S Evan Williams: 81.0
3. LB Quay Walker: 68.1
4. LB Isaiah McDuffie: 68.0
5. DL Kenny Clark: 66.0
1. DL TJ Slaton: 34.2
2. DE Kingsley Enagbare: 39.0
3. DL Devonte Wyatt: 40.6
4. LB Edgerrin Cooper: 41.0
5. LB Eric Wilson: 41.1
So, Brooks, Preston, Gary, Nixon, et al had grades somewhere between 41 and 66? I wonder where? The article explains that Enagbare had 2 pressures over 12 pass rushing snaps. IDK: that isn't great but 16.67% sounds pretty good to me. I don't get it. PFF said he missed a tackle. Okay, but 39 seems like an overreaction.
pFF noted under Wilson that he gave up a TD. Ballentine gave up a TD to Addison, who smoked him. Where is he?
Leatherhead
September 30, 2024 at 12:42 pm
I think PFF has a lot of holes, and although I don't just discount them, I think it's largely subjective, and overly weighted towards splash plays.
The Packers didn't play particularly well yesterday, although we did get some nice plays from some of the individuals. McDuffie (68), who people want to replace with Cooper (41), had what I thought was a good solid game. He made a very good play on the pass breakup but didn't make the 'great' play by intercepting it. Reed looks like a future star, and Tom is a top tier offensive lineman....I didn't need PFF to put a number on them.
Let's see what we do with the Rams, Cardinals, Texans and Jags over the next four weeks. Clean up the mistakes on offense, of course. I think we should adjust on defense, too, because we're first in takeaways, 28th in TD passes, and we're giving up points at a faster rate than last year.
My prediction is that we'll we at least 3 of those games and we'll be no worse than 5-3 when we host Detroit. A win there, followed by the bye week, could put us in very good position for the stretch run. We could be 6-3, when we were 3-6 after 9 games last year.
The division title will be won in December, not before.
CanPackFan
September 30, 2024 at 01:34 pm
Here is what I really don't get - with key injuries to our corners, why wouldn't we blitz more? I get it that blitzes mean man to man coverage, and we were without 2 good corners. But Darnold needed to be pressured and we just didn't pressure him enough - especially in the first half. Hafley got schooled by Flores big time! We need more QB pressure! I feel that everyone got over confident from the Titans game re: our pass rush.
Leatherhead
September 30, 2024 at 01:41 pm
Because you have to sacrifice coverage to increase pressure. You're already at a deficit in coverage with your starting CBs hurt and the more we sacrfice coverage, the bigger that deficit is going to be.
We should be able to get pressure with 4. We didn't yesterday.
Coldworld
September 30, 2024 at 02:05 pm
Yes, I know the dynamic. Unfortunately it’s less true when the WRs are going to win more than they lose because they are very good. This statement is specific to the Vikings, not an argument for a general rule. Against them Hafley’s tactics simply invited what came and it’s not new. There are plenty of cautionary tales of teams and coaches who tried just that against them.
crayzpackfan
September 30, 2024 at 03:16 pm
I agree. The proof was in the pudding too. The very few times we did send 5 after SD, he didn't burn us, we got turnovers and sacks. When you give a historically crappy QB 5-8 seconds in a clean pocket with those receivers and our compromised CB's, he's gonna succeed, and he did. Give him 2 seconds and he didn't do crap. He was the Darnold he's always been.
Coldworld
September 30, 2024 at 04:14 pm
While conversely we were burnt drive after drive till we started at least competing physically at the catch point. Sometimes it really is coaching not players. Sometimes that becomes obvious in a single game. This was one such.