Your pressure gauge green and red colours are the wrong way round.

The "All gas no brake" mantra is tired, and only sometimes applicable. If you want to see that to a somewhat foolish extreme look no further than the Lions head coach.

You want a smart coach, then the mantra SHOULD BE, some gas, some brake, as applicable. Spouting memes doesn't get you to the wins you want.

If you want to fire LaFleur, you need to find someone who can do the job better. Last year (as you said) there wasn't a clear better alternative. Maybe after 2026, IF he fails to make the playoffs and IF it IS seen he is a major reason for the team failing, there might be a better alternative out there, I don't know at this time.

However, I suspect his seat isn't hot at this time. If the Packers fail to make the playoffs this year though, the heat will turn up quickly.

The big excuse last year was injuries. Obviously injuries to key players is a significant impediment. However, this offense has been lackluster overall since 2022. That’s despite an incredibly productive first year from Jacobs. We don’t sustain drives often enough or long enough. We scored only twice last year without at least one big play and we stall offensively far too often mid game. Defense and STs have been conservative and, for the most part our O is too, with a smattering of deep shots thrown in which we hope make a difference.

This is a well trodden road. There is individual talent. We have not changed the OL coaches. We have very similar personnel in fact on and off the field offensively. At some point the excuses run out. Our O is no longer comprised of green youth. They know the system. There really is no excuse for this offense not to showcase the supposed brilliant offensive mind LaFleur has so often been praised for.

If the O fails to be dominant this year there is no place to hide. The excuses are worn out. The progress is already overdue. If the D lets them down so be it, but if the O isn’t able to carry this team then there will be little to defend not moving on from its architect. This is LaFleur’s possibly last chance to prove we haven’t been sold a myth for these many seasons.

MLF is NOT a great HC. He's an overrated HC because his only successful season has been with Rodgers, and the premise that he achieved the playoffs because there are 7 spots is ridiculous, as it's only achieving the playoffs because the bar for entry was lowered by adding a spot. If another is added, is MLF still successful if he wins the 8th spot? No. You're diluting what success is to continue a false narrative.

The Packers are like the Cowboys under Jason Garrett, sure, more (ahem) playoff appearances with MLF, but still only left with false bravado and clapping for the better that just never arrives. Had the seventh spot not been added, the Packers would now be 4 seasons in, missing the playoffs. Would MLF have gotten that extension? I think not, and amazingly enough, the FO would have found a replacement, and the fans would be screaming again how great he is before doing or achieving anything great.

This may be an unpopular thing to say, but the Packers don’t seem to place enough emphasis on a player’s capacity for intellectual depth. In other words, when I hear a player like Golden speak to the media, he - as much as I admire his character and athleticism - doesn’t seem to have a whole lot going on in his head. I just heard an interview with Tampa Bay’s Emeka Egbuka, the WR they took in the first round of 2025 draft a bit ahead of Golden. He had a great year for a rookie, 938 yards with 6 TDs. Kind of what Packer fans had hoped for from Golden, but he fell far short of that because, reportedly, there were too many mouths to feed and he seemed to not be grasping and following through on his route running. Getting back to Egbuka, listening to him talk, he is well spoken and offers insights and self-observations that actually reflect a deep level of understanding of his play, his role on the team, and his jump in ability from college to the NFL. When I listen to interviews with Golden, he just sounds kind of… dumb. He isn’t the only one on the team who comes off this way either. While everyone is looking for excuses as to why the 2025 Packers fell apart in the fourth quarter, why stupid mistakes are made, the penalties, why they miss routes and assignments… all of this, despite the efforts of the coaching staff to coach them… it could in part be blamed on the players’s ability to absorb the information they’re being coached with. Successful NFL players like Marshawn Lynch aren’t exactly rocket scientists, but he was essentially just a battering ram. All of this is to say. That I wish the Packers would place a little more emphasis on the general smarts of a player coming out of college because there seems to be a direct relationship to their football smarts and their ability to transition well to the NFL.

The Packers don't value accountability-Drayton, Menenga, Barry, Bisaccia, MLF, Stenavich, Gutekunst.---MLF will not be held accountable for many years. They call it 'stability'.

Starting to come out of hibernation.

He is probably under no pressure unless Packers take a major step backwards - which is possible with all the changes and injury recovery questions.

But he should be!

S.O.L.I.D. (Spirit of Lombardi is Dead)

Why all this doom and groom? ;)

I will try to remain positive. Like I was positive I wouldn't have a pimplefest on my face the day before my 8th grade picture.

PB

Question: if your piss is boiling, shouldn't that mean your seat is hot? "Depends" ;)

Every season is the HC's most important season or at least it should be. Last season the excuse was the injuries. For the two prior seasons the excuse was we're the youngest team in the league but it was carried as a badge of honor for some reason. In any case MLF gets extended and the beat goes on. Lock up the 7th seed and keep your job. It's all good because the Packers have "title town district." Thanks, Since '61

Either you're a cry baby.
Or a Gute fan.
I will be a Gute fan on this one.

If MLF is on the hot seat, I 'd trade him now.

There comes a time to protect MLF and
his family.
From those who think he should be Lombardi.

If projection , insecurity, and need to control,
show your negative thoughts.
Then trade him.

MLF is what he is. The Packers, under his guidance, are what they are. If you're pleased with this then you're content with his performance (like Policy). If you're not, then you hope for somebody better.

I quit watching them, I want something better.

The seat is hot…and should be. I’ve lost the original enthusiasm I had for MLF.
Losing games to teams they had zero business losing, and ending the year with 5 losses; not to mention wilting in the playoffs, are huge red flags imo.
Win or else—that’s how I view this season and his future employment.
Go Packers!!!

LaFleur is 36 games over .500, which is 31st all time, and 6th among active coaches.
Of the 30 ahead of him, 17 are already in the HOF. They will be joined by Belichick, Reed, Tomlin, and others.

His winning % is 16th on the all-time list, and 4th among active coaches. He has made the playoffs in 6 of his 7 seasons.

Good grief. It’s going to be okay.

This is a tired argument and I think 61 put it beautifully. MLF is what's holding this team back because of a lot of deficiencies, however player management is one no one really talks about enough, imo. MLFs mismanagement of players and positions is unreal and I assume we only see a small part of what goes on behind the walls. He should be let go for that alone.
Also, LH's love and backing MLF is like nothing I've ever seen before. MLF has literally done nothing for the Packers in 7 seasons and there's no sign or confidence he's going to change that in year 8, but LH continues to defend and support him. It's like LH is on the Titanic and the ship is going down with the water at his ankles and he's still saying everything is ok and the ship is in great shape. Then the waters at his waist and he's still saying how great the ship is and everyone running for their life is crazy and they don't know how great a ship it is. Then the waters at his shoulders and he's still saying how great the ship is and how it's going to sail on through to the other side. It's a wild take imo.
I want to know what is going to be said when MLF finally gets fired. Will it be that we made the biggest mistake and all we needed was another year to make it to the Superbowl.
I mean the MLF HOF line was unbelievable.
By the way, I don't think McCarthy will be in the HOF, nor should he be.
Crazy stuff....