Rodgers could have started the NFC CH game @ Lambeau in 2007 and won it.

I was at THAT game in Dallas in 2007!
Rodgers, in primetime, showed he was ready.

Had he started in that 2007 NFC Championship game vs the Giants in that 20-below zero freezer, we would have won.

"Love knew he was a 2nd round selection at best..." ? I'm curious, what is your source / proof to this statement?

This whole chip on a players shoulder is so media manufacturered. All BS! Do you think a chip on your shoulder as you say makes you a better player? Ridiculous! A chip on the shoulder or the use of a two by four and a boot may temporarily motivate you for a brief moment (you see it in sports and in corporate settings), but it is very short! If you were ever an athlete you either have the fortitude and drive to be the best you can be or you dont. Love is motivated to be his best and he doesnt have to be tested or have a chip on his shoulder for some ridiculous reason.

The recent reports say otherwise about what happened on draft day. They never thought they would get a chance at Love but the WRs they had targeted came off the board. So there was no big plan to replace Rodgers and move him out the door. It was a completely in-the-moment choice based on how the draft board fell and what value the player potentially offered. Same thing happened with Rodgers in that draft. They never thought they would be in a position to take him, but felt it was the right move when it happened. Love is not being universally embraced and heralded as the next HOF QB. Anybody with any common sense sees the potential in his arm, but the reality remains to be seen. It's just potential for the first couple of years. What did Rodgers have to fight for that Love hasn't had to fight for? it's just too easy to see the similarities in their situations, except that Rodgers is outplaying Favre at this point in their career paths and he didn't spend a couple off seasons waffling about retirement as Favre did.

How are you at predicting the stock market and stock picks?

Your full of it…..on April 23rd, SI gambling set the over under at least 16.5. That’s the middle of the second. Com on man quit siting BS. Some had him as possibly going top ten but most middle to late first round.

"Love is being embraced and heralded as the next HOF QB"
Holy strawman.

Who's heralding Love as the next HOF QB for GB?

Wrong on the Rodgers draft. Ted Thompson took the full opportunity to draft a QB because Favre had been noodling around about retirement. TT didn't think Rodgers would be there, but having the opportunity to develop a QB to replace Favre HE TOOK IT.
I don't know where you get the idea that Love is being 'embraced and heralded'. If you read this and other boards at all a majority are already calling him a bust.

“We forget everything. What we remember is not what actually happened, not history, but merely that hackneyed dotted line they have chosen to drive into our memories by incessant hammering.”
― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956

Read Love's off field story and you will lose your opinion of a pampered Football player.

Most of what you post, per usual, is opinion and feelings....not facts or substance.

Most drafts had Love as a 1st rounder.

And Rodgers WAS drafted to replace Favre one day. How do I know? Ted used his first rounder to snag him. Just because a team does not trade up does not mean they did not want a player.

Yeah, this is just objectively wrong. The Chargers were debating between Herbert and Love up until the draft. Love "knew" he was a 2nd round pick?

And I don't even know how to respond to the 2nd part that Rodgers was so unwanted and Favre "wasn't willing to work with him," which is also not correct, but you believe Love has been embraced by Packers nation?

I'm sorry, this is all revisionist history. And I love Rodgers as well...but you don't NEED this huge slight to be great. Mahomes didn't have it. Watson didn't have it. Elway...I mean, it's a manufactured thing.

I can tell you're a huge Rodgers fan, but maybe take a step back as right now you're literally using his own words, "threw a wrench in their plans." I think it's most likely the Packers just drafted a QB they thought was REALLY good and whom they'd control for 5 years because they had an aging QB.

I think this master plan to force Rodgers out is part of Rodgers imagination. I believe it was quite literally...a backup plan. A young player they believed had talent whom they could develop and who would still be under contract when Rodgers contract ran out. I do NOT believe when they drafted him they ever thought "well, we'll move Rodgers at this point."

This was a good article to see because it resets the background for the inevitable comparisons for Love to Rodgers from a rookie to a 13-year starter to one which compares him to a nervous, inexperienced rookie with really janky mechanics.

Fans need that to make more fair judgments because fans tend to have short memories and long expectations.

I don't know if Love's got any of the intangibles Rodgers has which makes him the QB he is, but I'm betting Love for the most part looks an awful lot like this when he's getting his NFL cherry popped.

I hope you and Taryn never have a love child. The world isnt ready for that level of negativity.

Yeah...the Packers sucked when Rodgers took over as well. And that was 4 years after he was drafted.

So I would guess you'd be right. IF the Packers and Rodgers don't come to an agreement after this season and IF Love takes over...yes, I'm guessing they will suck. And probably worse than they did with Rodgers as Love probably won't be Rodgers.

They may very well be better off over the next 15 years, but I won't pretend to know for certain.

You really think Love has no potential? Same old Vor.

TheVor!
Rodgers arm talent his rookie year was not all that impressive as I recall. However, over those first 3 or 4 years (back then they had that QB program/school) I never saw a QB's arm change and improve like Rodgers did. Very impressive!

Love has a legitimate and strong arm from the get go, but it is your comment "the Love experiment, which is destined to end badly, makes me nauseous" that bewilders me? How do you, or any of us know whether he is going to be a great QB, a bust, or something in-between?

I truly don't want to see Rodgers in another uniform if he is still playing at a high level. I might follow him instead of the Pack, just in my anger that the FO managed to alienate what may be the most talented and accomplished GBP player ever to put on a jersey. But to say "You could see real potential, unlike the present situation with another #1 draft pick QB," is more than ridiculous. Love didn't get an off-season last year and we have no idea what he can do. How old are you? Not old enough to know you can't know what you don't know? Not old enough to know we don't have answers in life unless life plays out before us? We won't know if Love will succeed until Love succeeds . . . or doesn't. Period.

I had a job out of college I worked at for 6 years doing corporate support for a national franchise, starting as an account manager floater (backup), and when I left I was running subscription based digital marketing platform that I had created in the org that was a major revenue driver. I liked and was well liked by my coworkers and my customers (our franchisees) treated me like their wunderkind, sending me holiday gifts, flagging me down for hugs and handshakes (and often a few brews) at our sales conferences, but at some point I knew I wanted out as there was a gulf that opened between myself and our sales leaders. My manager knew my discontent. She tried repairing it, and to his credit, so did our VP where most of the discontent came from, but my decision was made. Even if, by some miraculous swing of events our CEO had decided they'd be better off investing in me than in this VP and offered to remove/replace him, by the time my decision was made I wasn't going to go back. The work I once relished was burning me out, and I was ready for a new challenge.

You have to remember that at the end of the day, this is Rodgers' job, and i am never going to fault him for being ready to move on if that is what he wants to do, nor am I going to fault team leadership for trying to move their franchise forward instead of focusing too much on trying to keep catching past lightning in a bottle. In the NFL, all franchises hit a point where they simply are not going to improve without wholesale change, and while that change may be painful and come with growing pains, the alternative of trying to string things along just invite more, and longer term, pain.

Enjoy the ride, and if this is the last dance, hopefully we can look back at it with fondness instead of regret. We are on the roller coaster and the safety bar is down. All we can do now is ride and choose whether or not we will try to enjoy it.

I guess the sky is falling , huh?

He ain't going nowhere. If anybody needs the boot, look to Low ball and Murphy. Rodgers has already Proved he can carry a team. Get younger, faster, stronger and the Cap will bee preserved.

Yeah, I believe he popped off the screen for you after the Cowboys game.

I do NOT believe he "popped," off the screen his first pre-season.

I think it's easier to say that you knew all along...13 years and 3 MVP's later.

Ouch. That’s a burn.

Family Night was a scrimmage right? The QB's wore red and they were not to be hit right? What is the big deal about the fumble? Was Love supposed to get on the ground getting hit fighting for a ball?

"unlike the apparent downfall of both Favre and Rodgers"

I must have missed Rodger's "downfall". Didn't he just win the MVP after completing a career high 70% of his passes and throwing a career high 48 TDs? Some downfall.

Interesting angle. McCarthy was tabbed the QB whisperer but maybe LaFluer is a TE whisperer or some other position that isn't QB centric.

Swisch you conveniently leave out the fact that Bart Starr played with 11 other HOF players on his team and the GOAT HC. No Lombardi very likely means that we barely remember Starr. Similar to how we think of Lamar Mchan or Babe Parilli in Green Bay.

Favre played with one HOFer for 6 seasons (Reggie White). To date Rodgers has played with one other HOFer (Woodson)for 5 seasons during his career. It's interesting that when both had just one HOFer on the defense they won their SBs.

If you put either Favre or Rodgers, especially, on the Lombardi Packers they probably never lose a game. Both Favre and Rodgers brought more physical talent to the field than Starr. Both were more mobile than Starr. Rodgers is at least as smart as Starr, probably smarter, because defenses are much more complex than they were in Starr's era. Rodgers even at this stage of his career can throw on the run better than Starr ever could on his best day. Rodgers and Favre have 3 MVPs to 1 for Starr.

Yes, Bart was a great leader on the field but make no mistake he leads no one anywhere without the OL that he played behind. Favre or Rodgers never played behind an OL as good as Lombardi's. More importantly neither Favre or Rodgers ever played with a defense as good as Lombardi's defense. Favre had the league's #1 defense in 1996 only. Rodgers has never played with the league's leading defense and has only had a top 10 defense in 2010. Starr had a defense that allowed 9.7 points in their 10 post season games. Except for the 1966 Championship in Dallas, Starr never had to score more than 18 points to win any of the other 9 games.

It's not a knock on Starr but he wasn't as good of a player as Favre or Rodgers or Montana, or Marino or Elway or Brady or Unitas and a few others.
Starr wasn't even the best QB of his era. He was a great player and a great QB but he also played on the greatest team in NFL history. That's just being fair.

As for the roles of Lombardi and Starr, their respective roles have changed drastically since the Lombardi era.
Lombardi would be a different coach if he was coaching today and Starr would be a different player. Lombardi would be still be a great coach. I'm not sure if Starr would be a great QB in this era. Put him on the MM version of the Packers or the current MLF version and I doubt if he is winning MVPs, or SBs. He just wouldn't have the same supporting cast he had back in the 60s. Remember even after Lombardi left Green Bay Starr did not play at the same level as he did during the Lombardi years. For you Starr is a legend. He is a legend for me as well but a legend I actually watched play and I need to be fair about his abilities and his entire career, not just the Lombardi years. Especially when compared with Favre, Rodgers and other QBs since the Lombardi era.

You also need to remember that the teams virtually owned their players back in the Lombardi era. You can be sure that if those players had free agency and the NFLPA that Starr, Nitschke, Hornung, Taylor, Kramer, Willie Davis, Herb Adderley, Willie Wood and others would have all gone to the highest bidder in free agency. Particularly after the second consecutive NFL championship in 1962. There is no way Lombardi or anyone else could have kept that team together in the free agency era. It just couldn't happen.

I'll leave you with part of an article by Mike Jones in the 8/12/21 edition of USA Today:
"And ever since Rodgers returned to the mix on the eve of training camp, he has thrown himself fully into mentoring and coaching young teammates on both sides of the ball.
“It’s great to have Aaron back here. He has been such a great teammate, such a great leader,” LaFleur said. “He’s always a good teammate. But he’s just been lights out in how he’s bringing along some of our younger players, how he is in the quarterback room. I feel like he’s in a really good place right now.”

I hope that these sentences from this excerpt will help to mitigate your concern that Rodgers is a usurper of his team and his coach. It's myth and like all myths their foundation is based on fantasy, hope and rumors.

BTW, Rodgers did stick up for MM during the 2016 season when the team was 4-6 and many wanted MM gone. It was during the week before the Packers went on their 8-0 run that season. Ultimately there were beaten badly by Atlanta in the NFCCG, but after 16 consecutive games without a bye they didn’t have much of a team left when they got to Atlanta. Be well.
Thanks, Since '61

Yeah I’m gonna go with way wrong. Generally speaking when the national media tried hard with gaining some life out of this none existent crap. It became the big question going into MLF first season. All they did was go 13-3. The difference between Rodgers ending season being in top two of MVP race was Jones cashing in all of his short yardage goal line runs for touchdowns that season. I think he had like 20 touchdowns that year. AR had 26 tds and 4 int, if Jones reverts to The typical RB mean with 8-10 tds then ARod has 36 tds to 4 int. Statistically he would’ve lost out to Mahomes but those numbers would’ve been top two in mvp race. The point is people try their absolute hardest to find something that never existed. You can’t compare how things were with McCarthy. He was so predictable that every NFC North D coordinator could practically call plays for the Packer O.

1st down 5 step drop, broken down pass pro and wr that can’t get enough separation incomplete
2nd down C gap or B gap run for maybe 1 yard gain.
3rd down 7 step drop, D line gets to T off because of down and distance. Wr can’t get seperation so AR extends play to 5 sec or more until he pulls it out of ass and gets a first down.

McCarthy was an extremely poor play caller who relied on an incredibly talented roster his first few years when the packers excelled. His last 5-6 years were dreadful. But I digress…. Where has there been even the smallest degree of Rodgers undermining MLF? He’s been the epitome of a professional. Espn sells garbage to get viewership. That doesn’t mean everything said on there is truth. It’s why people like skip bayless can have their own show and have zero credibility or information day after day.

I’ll truly listen if you provide truthful facts that show Rodgers defiance to MLF otherwise don’t be afraid to question yourself. All posting incorrect info does is keep the facts hidden and gives the BS legs. ARod is a good teammate, is coachable, talented and passionate about what he does. The organization is the one in the wrong. It’s ok to be wrong sometimes but what’s important is trying to improve.

Yes & No.
Foolish to compare but wise to remember that We don't know until we know.
No one knew with Rogers. No one will know with Love.
Buty we will find out

Great video. Love the "I think Brian Brohm has a greater upside than Aaron Rodgers" comment. Same guy said that he wouldn't be surprised if Brohm was starting for the Packers in two years and also said he'd graded Rodgers as an early second-round pick. Wonder what he's doing for a living now?

When he was running the CAl offense I viewed bullet passes to the deep out and precise shots in the short game; not much different than Brady as a collegian. There was no doubt he was the Best QB in that draft. A big thank you to albatross Dick Nolan and the inimitable Michael McCarthy for NOT selecting him as the # 1 pick, Thank you, dinosaurs.