Saints: 44 Packers: 23

The Good, the Bad and the Ugly from the Packers' loss to the Saints

Eddie Lacy, Randall Cobb, Josh Sitton

Mike McCarthy, Davon House, Micah Hyde

Dom Capers

 

 

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Klincker's picture

October 27, 2014 at 07:55 am

MIke's Best & Worst video this week, will be heavy on the Worst. Lots to choose from.

One thing I will say, is for all the grief we give MM for not being creative, he did TRY with the play to Peppers in the end zone. I know I was excited to see what was gonna happen when Peppers ran onto the field. If the play has been done well in practice, from what I heard in post-game interviews, then its a play worth using. I dont think that was the right time to use it, but I did like the look of Peppers in the backfield, and would have rather had him be a decoy in the backfield, than trying to catch one, in this situation. Maybe another time.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

October 27, 2014 at 08:31 am

The only thing I'm disappointed in MM about this game was that first onside kick and exclusively being running Shotgun in the Red Zone (but maybe that's on Rodgers). That's it.

That game was ours.

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Idiot Fan's picture

October 27, 2014 at 11:51 am

I didn't love the onside kick, and I was indifferent to the Peppers play, but I thought MM otherwise did excellently. The offense was humming, except for some miscues in the red zone that weren't MM's fault. There were a decent number of creative plays that we haven't seen yet this year.

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KenEllis's picture

October 27, 2014 at 10:11 pm

Like the Peppers play, just not in that situation. Do it when up >7, at home (last week against Carolina would have been awesome) the first time you do it.

Liked the onside kick. Give MM credit for recognizing that playing against the 2-4 Saints, in the Superdome, on Sunday night, without D. Jones, Shields, and Burnett, that the D would be hard pressed to make many stops.

Now what that says about the effectiveness of a D that MM assured everyone would be much improved in 2014 is another story.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

October 28, 2014 at 10:22 am

The Def was playing good before that onside kick happened. I don't think we needed to steal a possession at that point. What we needed to do was actually score a TD or 2 while in the Red Zone.

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joepacker's picture

October 27, 2014 at 08:00 am

A few more bad:

davante adams? He doesn't pull up on the crossing route and its a different game. plus another drop or so...

the refs? huh? I'm surprised there was no mention in any of the reports thus far, here nor at espn about the changing spot on 4th down, or the hands to the face that wasn't. But, jees...

4th down and less than a yard is what john kuhn is for.
And a good place to use dr. peppers to block, rather than, say, tight end on an endzone slant.

and two onside kicks that weren't close to recovered. Question: why did we lose evan dietrich smith, greg jennings, james jones and our big men on D up front, but still have slowcum?

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HankScorpio's picture

October 27, 2014 at 08:16 am

..the changing spot on 4th down,....

I forgot about that one. I'm not so sure the reversal was the incorrect call but I am sure I saw nothing on the myriad of replays NBC showed that would rise to clear evidence to change the ruling on the field.

If Hochuli's crew is the best the league has, the NFL really has a much deeper issue than keeping the unionized part-time refs under contract and on the filed. With the multi-billions of dollars involved here, it makes zero sense that there is not a full-time referee training facility and office when the refs go through a full-time regiment of conditioning, film study, game simulations and ultimately, weekend work.

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mrtundra's picture

October 27, 2014 at 09:12 am

Have the Packers ever had a good game with Ed Hochuli reffing it? The push off by Graham on Williams in the end zone that resulted in a TD was the same push off that got Adams flagged. No call on Graham. Davon House got hosed on a call that even Collingsworth saw was wrong. I've been complaining about the officiating long before the infamous Hail Mary pass with Seattle. The officiating had better improve or one could make the case of the game being scripted, rigged, or whatever.

I also wonder how we can go form looking like we did last week, or even in the first half last night, to looking like we did in the second half last night. It seems to be effortless.

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Evan's picture

October 27, 2014 at 09:45 am

The House and Adams calls were BS, but Graham didn't do anything.

Adams did extend his arms.

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Idiot Fan's picture

October 27, 2014 at 11:52 am

This is where we are at with the NFL - asking them to just spread the BS calls evenly...

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Tundraboy's picture

October 27, 2014 at 01:26 pm

i agree in the sense that two plays here or there and of course without 2 to's it would have been different. I do not think it was fair for Peppers. How much practice could he[possibly have had to use him THAT way, in a very quick slant pass. Love using him just not like that. If they had him fade to corner or back of end zone.... or had him on a play action or run A Finley with strength but of course there was little or no time as the O line was so spotty except for Sitton.

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rlyon's picture

October 27, 2014 at 08:06 am

The pack will not be a serious threat to get to or win in the post season as long as Dom Capers remains the Defensive Coordinator...

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HankScorpio's picture

October 27, 2014 at 08:17 am

There is a Lombardi in the trophy case that suggests otherwise.

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Imma Fubared's picture

October 27, 2014 at 09:33 am

I don't know if I blame Dom of blame Ted for not getting him some talent? I've felt so far this season the D had played above my expectations. I saw vast improvement over last year. Last night I think the real defense showed itself and it ain't pretty.
AJ Hawk is always the second or third guy on the pile. He was not even in the game last night. Peppers and Mathews made a few plays but nothing consistently. I'd say we may be in trouble here.

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A_Lerxst_in_Packerland's picture

October 27, 2014 at 08:14 am

Ugly: Rodgers' hamstring...

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zoellner25's picture

October 27, 2014 at 09:28 am

Bad and Ugly = our run defense. Just horrible. Watching black jerseys get constant push into our white jersey side of the ball play after play almost made me sick. Looking at you Mike Daniels, Letroy Guion, Josh Boyd, AJ Hawk

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mrtundra's picture

October 27, 2014 at 09:39 am

Our defenders on the edges would get into in NO's backfield after Ingram was at least 5 yards downfield. The past couple of weeks we looked respectable against the run. What happened last night to change that?

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Tundraboy's picture

October 27, 2014 at 01:31 pm

Good question.. Seemed a step late or less way too many times.

btw Johnny Blood, like that I was thinking about switching icons. Oh well.

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Imma Fubared's picture

October 27, 2014 at 09:28 am

The good: Lacy, Cobb, Rogers.
The bad: Linebackers and Safeties.
The Ugly: Pass Coverage and run stuffing?

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mrtundra's picture

October 27, 2014 at 09:44 am

Also in the ugly was HHCD's inability to tackle Ingram, a former teammate at Alabama. HHCD , at times, looked as if he feared Ingram. HHCD had been a bright spot on defense until last night. He still is a bright spot on our defense and was a great draft pick by TT. He just had a bad night when so many others had a bad night, too.

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The TKstinator's picture

October 27, 2014 at 09:38 pm

Looked to me that several times he hit but didn't wrap. Fundamentals. But I agree he's been a bright spot and will continue to improve.

Now on to ILB...

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Amanofthenorth's picture

October 28, 2014 at 04:12 am

I gave you a tip on points and you didn't take it. Next one costs $20.

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The TKstinator's picture

November 01, 2014 at 07:31 pm

I have no idea what you talkin about, Willis.

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mrtundra's picture

October 27, 2014 at 09:44 am

Also in the ugly was HHCD's inability to tackle Ingram, a former teammate at Alabama. HHCD , at times, looked as if he feared Ingram. HHCD had been a bright spot on defense until last night. He still is a bright spot on our defense and was a great draft pick by TT. He just had a bad night when so many others had a bad night, too.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

October 27, 2014 at 09:47 am

I know people will hate this comment. But in order to consider Jordy Nelson a Top WR he simply can not totally disappear against the 26th ranked pass defense the way he did Sunday night.

3 catches, 25 yards and a long of 9.

UGLY...

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TommyG's picture

October 27, 2014 at 10:42 am

I'll have to watch the game again with a lot less beer in the system, but something tells me that this was by design like in Seattle (which I know MM has denied). If not be design perhaps AR knew that the Cobb Vs Whoever match ups were so good that he just kept looking at them.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

October 27, 2014 at 11:32 am

I remember seeing Nelson in the slot at times. No excuses. I know NO played a ton of zone, but Nelson just didn't stand out.

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Imma Fubared's picture

October 27, 2014 at 11:20 am

Puzzling for sure. One possible reason, teams understand he is the go to and fastest guy so they put there fastest guy on him and he is covered well. Just my thought

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Tundraboy's picture

October 27, 2014 at 01:32 pm

Have to agree with you on that

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TommyG's picture

October 27, 2014 at 10:40 am

The Good: As listed in the Article. Cobb and Lacy were just awesome last night.

The Bad: MM and these desperation calls outside of desperate moments. Dropped/tipped passes.

The Ugly: Our teams defensive effort as a whole.

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Bear's picture

October 27, 2014 at 01:49 pm

Ugly - Lane Taylor I know he's a reserve but he couldn't block Brian's grandmother!

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The TKstinator's picture

November 01, 2014 at 07:34 pm

Brian's grandmother just texted me. Said she only beat Taylor in one on one pass rush drills 5 out of ten times. She said he is totally vulnerable to both "the swim" and "the rip".

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4thand1's picture

October 27, 2014 at 02:34 pm

Rodgers wasn't the same after the hamstring. The o-line suffered after Lang's ankle. All the Burnett bashing should stop right now, they missed his tackling. Everyone should appreciate Shields a lot more. Ha Ha was whiffing badly. The noise in that dome was insane, Vic says he still has a headache. They blow sirens between plays. No wonder the offense had trouble in the red zone. Packers win this game every time in Lambeau. The Nfl should ban manufactured noise.

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Gianich's picture

October 27, 2014 at 03:36 pm

Bad breaks. Undisciplined football! Get the play in!! Burning TOs because they cant get the play in, set, and checked before the playclock expires is getting really old. Sean Payton's playbook is one double sided sheet. Mahsed Potota Mike has a 3 ring binder! Trim that shit or get the play into the huddle quicker!!!

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lucky953's picture

October 27, 2014 at 08:29 pm

Good: Davon House got some much needed reps in a contract year. We can beat NO, no question. Rodgers is not going to miss games. We will draft an ILB in the first 3 rounds next year. They know what's got to be fixed.
Bad: inability to get consistent pressure on Brees
Ugly: Run D

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