So Far, Packers' 100th Season Has Had a Foreboding Feel

The 2018 offseason brought a lot of change to Green Bay. It could very well be that more change is yet to come.

Six games have passed in the 2018 season. The Packers are 3-2-1. They have won more games than they've lost and are very much in the running for a playoff spot and a divisional championship, but so far, most who pay attentino to the team would have to be disappointed with what they've seen out of Green Bay's 100th edition of the Packers.

A terrible start at home against the Bears that required a major comeback victory. A strong start against the Vikings blown by a fourth-quarter defensive collapse and a referee debacle, resulting in a tie. Embarrassing losses to Washington and Detroit. A shutout victory against Buffalo that somehow still felt underwhelming, especially with Aaron Rodgers calling out the team's offense and game planning afterward. Finally, a game at home against a 1-4 49ers team without their starting quarterback that had no business being a close contest.

This is a team that has struggled form any semblance of an identity so far in 2018 in any phase of the game. Its only hallmark has been inconsistency.

The defense has at times shown strong improvement over its 2017 campaign, but at other times has looked nigh on hopeless. The poor safety play has been discussed ad nauseum on this site, as has the relative decline of Clay Matthews, who has been better after a disastrous week one but still nowhere near the game-changing presence he once was. Without a consistent rush of any kind from Nick Perry on the other side, this team has struggled to get to the quarterback from the edge. Strong defensive line play and well-schemed blitzes by new defensive coordinator Mike Pettine have helped pass rush numbers, but the Packers simply need more from their highest-paid defenders than what they've been getting this year, especially if they're going to have any hope of masking the weakneses of some parts of the secondary.

Rarely in 2018 has this offense looked like an elite unit. Whether it's due to bad play design, bad execution or a combinatino of both, the experience of watching this offense can only be described as "laborious," which is impossible to conceive of with an offense run by Aaron Rodgers. Rodgers has not been himself, likely due in part to his knee injury. But he is routinely failing to make simple passes to wide open receivers; you can see it on the tape every single week.

Meanwhile, the team still hasn't seemed to have figured out how to use Jimmy Graham in the redzone, Marcedes Lewis has been almost invisible, and McCarthy often forgets that Aaron Jones exists, despite him delivering significantly better production as a runner than either of the other backs on the team.

All of this together, it has been a frustrating season so far, one that our own Aaron Nagler compares to the 1999 squad:

I think this is a good comparison; 1999 was absolutely a year of transition for the Packers. After losing Mike Holmgren and Reggie White, the team was without two of the most crucial figures in putting together the team's successful run of the 90s. The team attempted to hold on to what it had left from the magic of its Super Bowl seasons, but ultimately, larger changes were needed for the team to move forward and establish a new winning identity, which it did for a time under Mike Sherman, though not to the same extent.

A more recent comparison that I find apt for the Packers' current situation, especially when considering McCarthy's job prospects with Green Bay moving forward, is Andy Reid's last year with the Eagles in 2012. Now, that team was not working with the same level of talent the Packers currently have, and they finished 4-12 that year; the Packers will almost certainly fare much better. 

But the talk in Philly and in the sports media sphere that year was whether the Eagles could really justify firing an Andy Reid, who was in his 14th season wtih the team and had taken them on a run of winning seasons that was unprecedented for the franchise, including a Super Bowl appearance. Reid was considered one of the most respected head coaches in the league, and while the occasional "hot seat" talk had bubbled up in previous years, it had never really gained a significant amount of traction.

All that very much resembles the current situation with McCarthy, now in his 13th season wtih the Packers. Despite what some commenters on this site and vocal fans on Twitter think, McCarthy is, indeed, a very respected head coach in the NFL, and is, for all people like to make fun of the quote, a "highly successful football coach." He would almost certainly be hired by another team immediately after the Packers let him go, much like Reid going to Kansas City, a team he turned around almost immediately.

I have had a hard time justifying the idea of firing McCarthy at any time before this year. But this year has a very different feel to it.

There's a new General Manager. New coordinators. A superstar quarterback that isn't playing up to his typical standard. Sloppier play and more mental mistakes than is typical of the McCarthy and Rodgers-era Packers. 

I will always proclaim Mike McCarthy to have been an excellent football coach for the Packers. He has been the hallmark of consistency, is a strong leader and is, for lack of a better descriptor, just a solid dude. He, like basically any other head coach, has his share of weaknesses, but I think more often than not he has been a strong coach for this team and the right man for the job.

I still think Mike McCarthy is a very good football coach. I'm sure the Packers think so, too. I'm also sure the Eagles thought Andy Reid was still a very good football coach after the 2012 season, when they let him go.

But not many coaches end their tenure with a team on their own terms, even those that last more than a decade with that team. 

The Packers still have 10 games left in their 2018 season, plus whatever they earn in January. There is still plenty of time for them to clean up their mistakes and figure out how to make this machine run smoothly again.

But the more the season drags on and the more we see the team struggle to perform anywhere near its standards each week, the more it feels to me like this season truly is the end for McCarthy in Green Bay.

 

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Tim Backes is a lifelong Packer fan and a contributor to CheeseheadTV. Follow him on Twitter @timbackes for his Packer takes, random musings and Untappd beer check-ins.

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Bearmeat's picture

October 18, 2018 at 05:40 pm

Yep. This article pretty much nails it. Either MM keeps his job as the Packers will roll into the playoffs as a dangerous team and make some noise in January... or... (more likely), the Packers continue to appear listless en route to something like a 7-8-1 record, and MM gets fired and we finish hitting the reset button in the 2018 offseason.

I will always root for my team to win, I can't help it. Even when I'm angry with them, I will cheer when they do something good - perhaps sarcastically, I will admit.

But if I'm being unbiased, Green Bay is most definitely not a good team right now, and doesn't look like it will figure it out either.

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Lare's picture

October 18, 2018 at 06:12 pm

I agree, nicely put.

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Tundraboy's picture

October 18, 2018 at 07:49 pm

Whenever A Jones and Monty succeed, I too am happy in a highly sarcastic way.

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Fire_Gute's picture

October 18, 2018 at 05:44 pm

I think its time for a whole bunch of changes as well, and certainly hope it is the end of the Mccarthy area. But unlike a lot of teams that need to gut and rebuild, it doesn't necessarily have to take us a couple years. This team could look great next year. We're going to go into the season 40 million under the cap. We can add 3.5 million more and get rid of Perry. Out of Cobb, Bulaga, Matthews and HaHa I feel like only one returns. No one is due for an extension. There are finally a couple players from the draft who might contribute and be difference makers. And we're probably going to have 3 picks in the top 50. By cutting Biegel, gutekunst has shown a willingness to move on from mistakes quickly, hopefully he continues to flush the rest of the dead weight next year. I believe Green Bay will be a top 2 destination for a coach next year, we'll basically have our pick.

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Bearmeat's picture

October 18, 2018 at 06:38 pm

Agreed completely. There is much more flexibility next year than there was this past year with the cap, age of the team and (of course) coaching staff. Basically, the only veteran (2nd contract) staples of the team that WILL be here are:

1. ARod
2. Bakh
3. Adams
4. Perry (ugh)
5. Daniels

Everyone else is on their rookie contract, their contract is up, or cutting them wouldn't cost a ton in dead money. I would strongly push towards eliminating as much from the TT/MM era as possible. Bulaga, Cobb, CM3, House, HHCD, Brice need to be done in GB.

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Kb999's picture

October 18, 2018 at 06:39 pm

Agreed. Change needs to come. We also need to get younger at certain positions.

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TKWorldWide's picture

October 18, 2018 at 07:32 pm

OLB, anyone?

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Fire_Gute's picture

October 18, 2018 at 07:35 pm

As in do i think we should get rid of all of them, save money, invest a high and middle round draft pick, and sign a middle to upper tier free agent, then yes

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TKWorldWide's picture

October 18, 2018 at 08:46 pm

Same
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Yo

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cpheph1's picture

October 18, 2018 at 11:28 pm

I just don't understand the Bulaga hate. Who would you replace him with?

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Fire_Gute's picture

October 19, 2018 at 07:27 am

I don't hate Bulaga at all. But hes hurt a lot, his contract is up and I don't see how a true contender can count on him for 19 or 20 games. "Who are we going to replace him with" is how we got stuck with Nick Perry's turd deal. Ideally I'd like the Packers to use one of their 1st 2 picks on a tackle, since I think its easier to fill other holes in FA.

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cpheph1's picture

October 19, 2018 at 08:52 am

"I don't hate Bulaga at all. But hes hurt a lot, his contract is up and I don't see how a true contender can count on him for 19 or 20 games."

Ok, so you don't hate Bulaga but it appears you want to move on from him because of his injury history. FYI...Bulaga's contract doesn't expire until after the 2020 season.

"Who are we going to replace him with" is how we got stuck with Nick Perry's turd deal."

Totally different situation...and basically an apples to oranges comparison. I will agree that Perry's contract definitely isn't panning out for the Packers so far...shit happens.

"Ideally I'd like the Packers to use one of their 1st 2 picks on a tackle, since I think its easier to fill other holes in FA."

I'd rather not needlessly create a hole at RT.

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Fire_Gute's picture

October 19, 2018 at 09:05 am

I thought it was over after this year. Changes things a bit. I don't want unnecessary holes either, also don't want a patchwork oline in week 6 when we have resources next off-season.

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Leatherhead's picture

October 19, 2018 at 02:07 pm

We have a patchwork Oline?? No, we have preferred starters out there. Three of them have played 100% of the offensive snaps. Bulaga has played almost 90% of the snap, and Bell has beaten out McCray.

Patchwork? Seriously?

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egbertsouse's picture

October 18, 2018 at 06:38 pm

I predict that AR will go on a tear and the Packers will either sneak into the playoffs or barely miss them. Mikey will then get an extension, go to the Waffle House and celebrate, and fire Philbin or Zook as the annual sacrificial lamb. He will then spend the off-season talking about accountability, cleaning things up, and pad level. Welcome to the 2019 Green Bay Packers, everyone!

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IamGute's picture

October 18, 2018 at 06:47 pm

I haven’t heard any contract talk regarding McCarthy. Perhaps we won’t until it either happens or doesn’t.

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flackcatcher's picture

October 18, 2018 at 08:20 pm

There is a lot going on under the radar at 1265. Regardless of what we fans think. Both Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy are highly thought of inside the NFL. And the way they were treated by lame duck Packers President Mark Murphy sent shock waves though out the entire organization. How that plays out after the season is unknown at this point. A couple of short points to provide some context here. Murphy is a figure head, he has little real power now in the wake of his aborted reorganization of the Packer front office. Day to day operations are run by Carmen Policy Jr with the executive committee making the final call. Both Mike McCarthy and the current GM are on to be blunt "show me contracts'. That said, there is a good chance both will be back next year and with long term deals. IAMGUTE has shown himself in the short time to be a effective and agile GM in the front office. More importantly, he has stayed out of the nasty office politics that has gone around him, and stayed the course. That counts a great deal with the businessmen and community leaders on the executive committee who will be making the finial call. Finally, do not underestimate how much Mike McCarthy is liked in Green Bay. He has deep roots in that town and is thought as 'one of us'. Dealing with the increasing 'diva' personality of Aaron Rodgers in what has become a major rebuild only has increased the high respect the executive committee has for him. One last point. What we do not know is the impact of former Packer President Bob Harlan or Former GM Ron Wolf is having on the on going restructuring of the front office at 1265. We do know that they are involved to some degree (Harlan's rolling presser during the summer doing news and sports talk radio refuting Murphy's front office organization speaking for the executive committee. Wolf being seen talking to the executive committee members who oversee the day to day front office decisions.) so something is going on there. My guess is that after the new President is installed, both McCarthy and IAMGUTE will get new long term contracts as there is no real reason not to rehire both. (Or I could be totally completely wrong.) We will see.......

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cpheph1's picture

October 18, 2018 at 11:37 pm

Carmen Policy Jr. eh? UR too funny.

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flackcatcher's picture

October 20, 2018 at 12:34 am

Policy is second in command behind Murphy and has been in the organization for 2+ years. Murphy's contract ends after this season. Harlan's radio turn was reported in newspapers, TV, and is in various radio station archives. All of that is in the public record, along with the announcement of Policy's hiring and his position. I'm just pointing it out. Wolf was sighted talking publicly to several long term executive committee members just after Murphy's silo presser. I am pointing out the state of play at 1265 as it is. Make your own judgements. The rest is of course my own opinion, and as I pointed out, I could be completely wrong. :) (Both the GUTE and McCarthy comments are based on conversions with front office personal of other NFL clubs who have had a close relationship with both over the years, thought I should make that clear.)

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NickPerry's picture

October 19, 2018 at 04:36 am

Ron Wolf is still involved with the Packers? In what capacity? I haven't heard Wolf's name since he commented on the hiring of Gute and his son moving on.

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cuervo's picture

October 19, 2018 at 07:57 am

No, he's not.....that post is full of water cooler rumors with nothing factual whatsoever. ...By the way, there's not one President of a multi-billion dollar company that runs the day to day operations of said company...they hire qualified people for that task.

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Since'61's picture

October 19, 2018 at 09:05 am

Good post Cuervo - I agree completely, especially the last sentence. Thanks, Since '61

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flackcatcher's picture

October 20, 2018 at 01:12 am

Two points. Bob Harlan made it very clear, in his radio interviews over the packers radio network that he was speaking for the executive committee. He, the former president of the Green Bay Packers was speaking for the organization, and not Mark Murphy the current President. That was as clear and loud statement as the organization could make. The next day Harlan shows up on espn's packer show going over the same talking points with Jason Wilde. Harlan make's it very clear that Carmen Policy JR was ready to run the organization. That was as blunt a message the executive committee could make. Murphy had lost the confidence of his bosses and his future was in doubt. There was no other possible read. "Water cooler." My sweet aunt fanny.

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ILPackerBacker's picture

October 19, 2018 at 01:05 pm

the only thing you can say for sure is that some companies hire qualified people....other than giving the NFL COMMISH a guaranteed vote and continuing employment for the harlan family what qualifed Murphy?

Most of the green bay staff and 'contracts' are with people connected and the priority is not winning it is keeping their cash flow.

Once ted was on tv demonstrating either a stroke or other major issue something had to change, and the people in the organization protect themselves....not the "packers' whatever "packers" may mean

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stockholder's picture

October 18, 2018 at 07:42 pm

I'd give MM a contract extension right now. Ends all the arm chair snubs. It's all about the stats. As long as A-rod has them going up. As long as the defense ranks top 10. MMs job is SAFE. This team isn't a power house. It's a team trying to see where they fit in. Many have said were rebuilding. The ups and down of every player happens. I feel positive about the direction and coaching of the Packers. The confusion is the Boo Birds that expect more of MM, then the players have given. MM and Gute are on the same page. Losing one's marbles as so many write. Only makes MM look like a genius. The packers have been their own worst enemy. The issues are this. $$$$$. ( Extensions). Can they play! Show time.

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Rak43's picture

October 18, 2018 at 08:40 pm

Sorry 4 the double post!

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Rak43's picture

October 18, 2018 at 07:47 pm

I guess I'm in the minority because what I see is a team that has yet find it's rhythm on offense or it's groove on defense. Yet there they sit at number 4 in total offense and number 7 in total defense. What feels different to me is not that they're struggling somewhat early in the season because we have all seen that over the past seven seasons, it's nothing new. What's different to me is that they're struggling but the defense isn't ranked 31st or 32nd like usual and the offense isn't 16-20 like they usually are when struggling. I see a team that has potential to be very good in December and January and in need of some fine tuning for now. They'll be fine!

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flackcatcher's picture

October 18, 2018 at 08:47 pm

Unlike last year, this team has mostly avoided the injury god. (knock on wood) The lack of training camp time has shown up on ST(stupid dumb penalty) and young players lack of time in the defensive and offensive systems. It's taking to this point in the season for Rodgers to get in sync with his young group, and it is driving him nuts. Despite being a rebuilding season, this team is still in position to make a deep run into post season. How this team gels going forward is unknown. But I bet on McCarthy, the 2010 team run to the SB, the 2016 run to the NFL champ game shows he can do it. Real question is can the veterans up their level of play second half. That will determine how far this team goes.

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Tundraboy's picture

October 19, 2018 at 08:19 am

I see and understand the reasons for optiimism,but Im not sure we can overcome the schedule,growing pains and the inevitable injuries and bad calls or breaks. And that assumes that MM gets his and the coaches act together.

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PAPackerbacker's picture

October 19, 2018 at 05:16 am

With those high ranked numbers on offense and defense shows the players are doing a good job. This is why I keep stating the problem lies in the game management. If the team is that good as the ranking suggests then it's not a player problem. They had a better record when the offense and defense were ranked much lower. Sluggish starts, inability to adapt during a game, not having the team prepared to play 60 minutes of football, poor play selection, improper use of talent, stubborness to stick to a plan that's not working, are just a few problems that come to mind. This is a management issue, not a player issue. If the management trend continues this path and the rankings are accurate, it obviously isn't the players who are failing.

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Guam's picture

October 19, 2018 at 08:55 am

Interesting - we watch the same games and see very different things. I see more player execution problems than I see management issues, Yes, there are some management issues (slow starts, stubbornness), but I think most of the problem is inadequate player talent/experience. We have lots of young players lacking experience and veterans who are too often hurt or on the downside of their careers.

I believe Murphy and Gute are going to give MM a pass on this season due to the depleted talent/experience on this roster. Both men understand what the last few drafts have done to this team and know that more talent is needed to win a SB. Yes we have an HOF QB, but how many SB's did Dan Marino win or even play in?

Gute had a great first year and I hope next year he clears cap space for more free agency moves and drafts really well with his excellent move to get two first rounders for the Pack.

Go Pack Go!

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Chuck Farley's picture

October 18, 2018 at 08:31 pm

I thought the article was well written. Good job. How about a twist, just food for thought, something to chew on.
I say Mike stays. Reason. The higher ups are playing cheap ball and have been for years. This org covets large numbers of late round and undrafteds. Cheap players. This org never goes out and acquires one or two top quality free agents. Just guys looking for one more check. This org will not draft or acquire DE's, they cost too much.
With all this, they won't punish Mike knowing he had to work with what they gave him. Plus they can tell him, hey you had Favre and Rodgers in your career so don't complain about a handful of so so players.
Last the org wants the playoffs for the fans. They aren't building for the sb. This is not a sb bound team.
It's all about the money.

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TKWorldWide's picture

October 18, 2018 at 09:00 pm

When a QB is paid 30 mil...

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cpheph1's picture

October 19, 2018 at 12:52 am

Yup...which would've made signing somebody like Mack dicey from a cap perspective...but, Gute will need to acquire an impact front six guy (edge guy) next year via draft or trade. I'm not convinced they will not make CM3 an offer.

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Oppy's picture

October 19, 2018 at 12:59 am

Chuck,

You continually talk about the Packers being "cheap" and it's "all about the money", but the facts don't support your claims.

Only 7 teams had less available cap space than the Packers did heading into the start of free agency on March 14th, 2018.

As of today, only 4 NFL teams have less available cap space than the Packers.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/

Considering all teams carry about the same number of players between the active roster and practice squad, and there's a salary cap (and floor, for that matter)..

Your "cheap" argument doesn't hold water.

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Rossonero's picture

October 18, 2018 at 08:59 pm

While I believe it's the beginning of the end of the Mike McCarthy era in Green Bay, if he does get fired, then who do we hire?

McCarthy wasn't exactly a hotshot offensive coordinator in 2005. Despite having a better record than the 2–14 Texans and 3–13 Saints, Football Outsiders calculated that the 49ers were actually, play-for-play, not only the worst team in the NFL in 2005, but the worst team they've ever tracked. Ouch.

San Francisco's 1,898 team passing yards in 2005 were the lowest such total in the decade of the 2000s. Obviously, the Packers did their homework and made a great decision to hire Mike.

My point: the next Packers head coach may come from an equally dismal team as McCarthy did. Let's just hope the front office gets it right like they did in 2006.

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TKWorldWide's picture

October 18, 2018 at 09:04 pm

Would a defensive minded coach be welcomed here?

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flackcatcher's picture

October 18, 2018 at 09:45 pm

1999 was the year. Just crazy, incoming packer president James Jones had a major stroke, tested the coaching staff and front office, everyone, everyone had blood pressure readings going though the roof. Ran tests on Ray Rhodes and found he had already had one stroke, and was well on his way toward another. Ron Wolf had to drag him off the field and hospitalize for his own health. Players playing with life threatening injuries, just nuts. I thought Butler and Dotson would be killed on the field with the shoulder injuries they had. Neither had any business out there. Crazy crazy year.

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Oppy's picture

October 19, 2018 at 01:16 am

I would like to see the Packers slowly rebuild with defense in mind for the post-Rodgers era.

I think building an elite defense, and playing clock control offense with a solid RB behind a good OL and a bunch of possession type WRs is the way to go. It allows a team to look for the QB of the future without having to press, and the team should be able to win with less than elite talent at the QB position in the meantime.

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Skip greenBayless's picture

October 19, 2018 at 02:18 am

I agree to an extent. We need to build a strong defense absolutely. However I disagree with you about the qb situation. Why are the Packers looking for the "QB of the future"? You and I know full well that the qb of the future is already on this team Oppy. No need to look. Tim Boyle is the future and will carry the torch handed to him by Aaron Rodgers just fine. There's a reason BG kept him on the active roster and that's because he's the future. You should be happy Oppy but you continue to deny and pretend Tim Boyle is not the future. He's 100% the future. In fact Tim Boyle is so good they might have to do with Rodgers what they did with Favre.

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Rossonero's picture

October 19, 2018 at 04:15 am

Hmm, in today's NFL where offense is king, I'm not sure, but it is possible. For example, Mike Zimmer in Minnesota is obviously defensive minded.

Todd Bowles was a DC in Arizona before taking the reins in New York and Mike Vrabel in Tennessee. DCs getting head coaching jobs just seems fewer and farther between nowadays, my guess is teams invest so much time and money into their QBs that they want a return on that investment and to harness that talent.

Or there's always Minnesota's model: build a defense and just spend big on a free agent QB.

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Rak43's picture

October 19, 2018 at 05:02 am

Only one problem with that model. Tell me when is the last time before Kirk Cousins a franchise QB came available on the FA market? Minnesota completely lucked up for it to have happened to them.

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Rossonero's picture

October 19, 2018 at 07:48 am

Totally agree.

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Oppy's picture

October 19, 2018 at 05:43 pm

Minnesota ALMOST has the model I'm promoting.

They really screwed the pooch by dumping big money into the QB position.

All they needed to do was get a reasonably priced journeyman QB who can run a no-thrills offense- just protect the ball and move the sticks- and spend the money on the offensive line.

That would be what I'd be in favor of. Minnesota seemingly kow-tow'd to their fans and made a "splash" move, when they probably should have done the prudent, least-sexy thing- and built the Oline around a game manager QB to compliment their defense.

No need to stretch for a QB when all those other pieces are there. If you stumble into a great QB, all the better. In the meantime, win games and get deep runs into the playoffs with top flight defense and a no-mistakes, clock eating offense.

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TKWorldWide's picture

October 19, 2018 at 06:33 pm

Case Keenum?

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Oppy's picture

October 19, 2018 at 08:43 pm

Yup. I think they made a huge mistake going for broke at QB. Should have built the OL up with that money.

Doesn't need to be sexy, it just needs to be efficient.

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cpheph1's picture

October 18, 2018 at 11:22 pm

Foreboding eh?…

"This is a team that has struggled form any semblance of an identity so far in 2018 in any phase of the game. Its only hallmark has been inconsistency."

Aaron Rodgers and the offense, IMO, has been the identity for years…it's no different this season. Yes, he's been inconsistent…but he's also been remarkable in the two come from behind wins. AR12's minor flaw is he's typically greedy…i.e., he looks for the TD first, then 1st down, then check-down in his progression…and some time it's back-fires when he foregoes a wide open player on the shorter route while looking for the big play.

"The defense has at times shown strong improvement over its 2017 campaign, but at other times has looked nigh on hopeless. The poor safety play has been discussed ad nauseum on this site, as has the relative decline of Clay Matthews, who has been better after a disastrous week one but still nowhere near the game-changing presence he once was."

I disagree regarding the defense "at other times has looked nigh on hopeless." The CB play by King, Alexander, and Jackson has me very hopeful from a pass defense perspective. Pettine has shown, at least to me, that he can scheme pressure without frequently sending the house (six or more).

The poor safety play is mainly Brice.

CM3, regardless of any perceptions relating to his decline, is still one of their best front six players because he's versatile enough to play in-space or attack the QB. Yeah, he lost his jock strap vs the 9ers…but I'd rather have him on the field over Gilbert or Fackerell. He had a game changing/saving play vs the Vikings but…shit happens…

However, your point about a lack of pass rushers that are primary front six (i.e., DL, Edge/OLB, or ILB) is correct. That ship has basically sailed unless Gute can swing a trade before the deadline. Who knows, maybe Houston will fuck-up like Oakland did…but that's obviously a pipe-dream on my part. However, it's going to be very hard for them to fit a mega deal for Jadeveon Clowney and also refinance J.J. Watt into a market value contract…(he will want to get paid but his current deal doesn't expire until after 2021). Deshaun Watson's rookie deal expires after 2020. Whitney Mercilus' contract expires after 2019. Oh well, enough of my fantasy GM desires…

"Rarely in 2018 has this offense looked like an elite unit. Whether it's due to bad play design, bad execution or a combination of both, the experience of watching this offense can only be described as "laborious," which is impossible to conceive of with an offense run by Aaron Rodgers."

"Laborious" eh?...I would say frustrating but it's all about word choice/semantics here…but I digress. I get your point. I still say it comes down to making plays…not play calls.

Wow, you captured and used a Nagler tweet in your blog…what a suck-up (j.k.)

I think it's too early to compare this team to any previously season team with AR12 under center.

"I have had a hard time justifying the idea of firing McCarthy at any time before this year. But this year has a very different feel to it.
There's a new General Manager. New coordinators. A superstar quarterback that isn't playing up to his typical standard. Sloppier play and more mental mistakes than is typical of the McCarthy and Rodgers-era Packers." 

So…are you saying that you are now able to justify firing McCarthy at this time (during bye week) or wait until after the season?...(you don't have to respond)

Regarding AR12's play…it's on AR12, not McCarty. Regarding sloppy play and mental mistakes, most of it has been by young players…not an excuse, just a fact.

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Leatherhead's picture

October 19, 2018 at 01:57 pm

Why are you so critical of a pass rush that is 8th in sacks and 4th in sack percentage? Once we get Alexander and King on the field together for a full game you'll see even more sacks.

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 19, 2018 at 07:31 am

This season has been a bit of an odd start. I will admit that.

First game of the year Rodgers gets hurt early in the game. With the help of the backup QB (pick 6) the Bears get a 17 point lead. Rodgers comes back and leads them to victory.

The next week, the Packers build a 13 point lead going into the 4th quarter and the Vikings blow up scoring 22 points in the 4th quarter. Now 8 of those 22 points came after the Packers had the game basically won with an interception.

2 of the next weeks the Packers lose which honestly, was more of them shooting themselves in their feet then getting beat by the other team.

In the Washington game I think they had like 60 dropped passes. At least it felt like it.
Against Detroit Crosby has his worst game of his career.

The Bills game and 49ers games while they won they still weren't running on all cylinders.

Now some things we can take from these games.

Rodgers has been playing hurt. I believe there then just his knee that is ailing. We have seen he has missed a number of throws that he never missed in the past.
But honestly his decision making hasn't been great. He hasn't pulled the trigger a number of times on guys that were open. My opinion, Rodgers gets that corrected and the offense will start rolling sooner then later.

Jimmy Graham has been playing with a knee injury. But the more he plays with Rodgers the more they will get on the same page.

Cobb and Allison have missed the last 3&2 games respectively. During that time Rodgers has had to play with a couple of rookies who don't know every aspect of the offense like both of those players do. That being said, during that time those rookies have gained valuable playing time. During this stretch they have proved that they can add something to the offense. Rodgers can trust them.
In this last game there are 2 throws that proves that. Rodgers was rolling to the right and no WR was clearly open. MVS was running up the right sideline and Rodgers throws it. MVS comes back around the DB to make a great catch. If Rodgers doesn't trust him he doesn't make that throw.
And on the final drive Rodgers throws it to EQ down the right side line in a spot only EQ could get. He had to contort his body around and made a fantastic catch on that play. His only catch in the game.

Now coming off the bye week both Allison and Cobb figure to be back. Now They have a legit 5 WR group that Rodgers can trust. I would not be surprised to see them run out with more 4 & 5 WR looks, and just let Rodgers pick them apart.

The offense I do believe will have it figured out and will become a force most teams won't like.

On Defense, they haven't been great but they can say they have figured things out in 2nd half of games. They have given up this amount of points in the 2nd half of games. Week 1 - 6,Week 2 - 22, Week 3 - 3, Week 4 - 0, Week 5 - 7, Week 6 - 6.
Outside of the Vikings game they have given up no more then 7 points in the 2nd half of any game. Even with the Vikings game they have averaged 7.3 points in the 2nd half of games.

Now they will be getting back one of their top players and a guy who seems to have had others playing better around him in Jaire Alexander. They also will be getting their newest addition going with Breeland.
The other thing I like is that Kevin King is back also. Meaning they will have their secondary at full strength.

I'm excited to watch the remaining games. This next stretch will be tough, no question. 4 of the next 5 games on the road, and all will be hard places to play. If they can even split those 2-2 in those 4 road games, I think they can finish the season strong.

I'm ready!

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cpheph1's picture

October 19, 2018 at 09:05 am

Good commentary RCPackerFan! Big thumbs-up from me...I'm excited about the rest of the season too!

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Since'61's picture

October 19, 2018 at 09:57 am

This year's Packers have been a team playing with a number of young/inexperienced players, an injured QB while trying to implement new a new defensive system.

All of this makes the case for inconsistent play. Add in poor officiating and injuries to a number of starters and here we are.

For me the biggest disappointment has been the poor play of some of our veteran players, including CM3, Perry (again), Mike Daniels, HHCD, Brice, and injuries to Bulaga, Cobb and Rogers (although he has been playing through it with rookie WRs). At this level fractions of inches and fractions of seconds make all the difference and injured and inexperienced players are just off enough to make the difference.

As for MM his fate will ultimately be determined by the Packers won/lost record. Quite frankly if he gets this team to the playoffs again with the current status of his roster it will be a very good job. This team needs better players at OLB, ILB (except for Martinez), Safety and OL depth. On the flip side MM needs to get Aaron Jones, MVS and the TEs more involved with the offense. Jones and MVS can be game breakers and can create match up problems for opposing DCs, and open up more opportunities for Adams and Graham. That is on MM, Philbin and Rodgers.

On defense we need to get more snaps for Oren Burks, play Alexander, King and Jackson at CBs with T. Williams and HHCD at safety. I'm not sure what we can do about the pass rush at this point but Pettine needs to make it happen. We are probably looking at another defensive draft in the early rounds again.

If we make the playoffs I'm for keeping MM and getting him good players with the available cap space by chucking our dead weight. Let's not forget that MM could decide to move on without being fired. For now let's see how the rest. of the season goes and particularly the next 2 road games against the Rams and Pats. If we are competitive we'll be OK this season, if not it may mean that the end of the MM era is upon us. Thanks, Since '61

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Leatherhead's picture

October 19, 2018 at 01:52 pm

Aaron Nagler: The QB on that 1999 team threw more interceptions than TDs, had a passer rating of 74.8 (19th), a 1000 yard rusher and a defense that was no worse than average despite being repeatedly put on a short field following an interception.

I know the urge to find ways to praise Favre by denigrating the rest of the team is powerful, but try a little harder to resist.

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