Some Players Are Making Themselves Difficult To Cut
Getting them to the practice squad will be risky business.
By KenLass
The Packers have to be down to a roster of 80 players by Tuesday of this week. Then comes the big hammer. 27 more have to come off the active list by August 30. A maximum of 16 will then be allowed on to the practice squad. That is, if you can get them through to the practice squad.
Most players cut must pass through waivers, and can be claimed by another team. This makes the roster cutdown process a little tricky. There are players on the team that Green Bay would love to keep and develop, but there’s no spot available for them in the top 53. Do they cut such a player and risk losing him to a waiver claim? Or do they value that player’s potential to the point they must find a spot on the final 53?
With one more preseason game to play before the big final cutdown, there are a handful of players that the Packers probably had ticketed for the p-squad, but who are playing so well that there is a genuine risk they will not make it through waivers. They have made themselves difficult to cut.
Isaiah McDuffie
The sixth round draft pick in 2021 has been one of the most improved players in camp. The linebacker has been flying around the field making sure and impressive tackles. He led the defense in tackles in the first preseason game against the 49ers. Last Friday night against the Saints McDuffie stopped a scramble by quarterback Ian Book to end a drive. Later in the same quarter, on third and sixteen, Book flipped a short pass out to the left flat to talented rookie receiver Chris Olave. McDuffie was one-on-one with the former Ohio State star in the open field and made a textbook tackle to end another drive and force a field goal try.
The starters come opening day will be De’Vondre Campbell and Quay Walker. With competition for depth at ILB involving Krys Barnes, Ty Summers and Ray Wilborn, the Packers might have been tempted to keep Barnes and Summers for special teams value, and try to slip McDuffie through to the p-squad. But McDuffie has clearly played his way on to the roster and has likely moved Summers into limbo.
Tyler Goodson
Remember the days when coaches used to say you can’t lose your job due to injury? Those days are long gone. Kylin Hill’s injury has shoved him to the sideline, opening the door for the free agent from Iowa, and he is making the most of it. Goodson has displayed explosiveness through the hole and speed in the open field. He also caught a pretty flare pass against the Saints which he turned into a first down, and followed that with a twisting, tackle-breaking fifteen yard run to the four yard line. When camp began, Green Bay was probably slotting either Patrick Taylor or the recovering Hill into that third running back slot, and perhaps hoping to retain Goodson on the practice squad. Now there is a decent chance some other team in need of a running back has taken note of Goodson’s prowess.
Cole Van Lanen
The former Wisconsin Badger played exactly one snap during his rookie season last year. In this camp, the coaches have been moving him all over the offensive line and he has responded with capable play. Van Lanen has had a good look at both left and right tackle, and against the Saints held his own at the left guard position. With the arrival of draft picks Sean Rhyan and Zach Tom, a renewed interest in utilizing Jake Hanson, and the eventual additions of David Bakhtiari and Elgton Jenkins, it seemed likely Van Lanen was going down. But good O-linemen, especially those who are versatile, seldom make it through waivers unclaimed.
Micah Abernathy
From out of the USFL, Abernathy was signed just eight days prior to the Saints game, and then put on a show when he got on to the field. He made a leaping interception in the second quarter when the intended receiver fell down, and then in the third quarter nailed an impressive tackle for loss on a screen pass. Could he be this year’s Rasul Douglas? The Packers are suddenly short-handed at safety, with Darnell Savage, Vernon Scott, Innes Gaines and Dallin Leavitt all hurt. Assuming they will be back for week one, Abernathy would figure to be a practice squad guy at best. But if he continues to make plays, there will be other teams that will notice.
Other players that may or may not make it through waivers: Defensive lineman Chris Slayton, tackle Caleb Jones, safety Shawn Davis, cornerback Kabian Ento.
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Ken Lass is a former Green Bay television sports anchor and 43 year media veteran, a lifelong Packers fan, and a shareholder.
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Comments (131)
PackEyedOptimist
August 22, 2022 at 06:29 am
I'd say McDuffie isn't "hard to cut" at this point; I think he's made the team.
The first two who came to mind when I saw the headline, were Chris Slayton and Caleb Jones. For me, both of them were "camp fodder" going into the preseason, but both have had quite a few impressive plays in the two games.
If Abernathy has a second game like his first one, given the injuries at safety, he has a solid chance, though Gaines is also back now.
RB is interesting; personally, yes, I'd keep Goodson at this point, and I'd give him some looks at the slot/motion/gimmick stuff in this final preseason game.
It's too hard for me to judge offensive linemen in general, but VanLanen is certainly in the running for the 53--I don't know that he's "hard to cut" though...
I'd add that Toure, Carpenter, and Ford all look like PS candidates, rather than making the 53, which is unusual for Packers' draft picks.
Also, this year's Amari Rogers appears to be Sean Rhyan, where he will probably make the 53, but more on draft status than current merit. I really liked Rhyan as a pick, so I'm hoping he just needs some time--after all, he's only 21, and young linemen rarely are ready as rookies.
Actually, Devonte Wyatt is one of those too--except he's 24...He has been completely unimpressive in the games.
murf7777
August 22, 2022 at 07:51 am
Damn, I wouldn’t want to be a 3rd round draft pick by the Packers! A weird phenomenon.
Coldworld
August 22, 2022 at 09:17 am
The way I see Rodgers is we got what we wanted, but we’ve since found better. He is what he was in college. Did we think he could be more? I don’t know, but then came another draft with an unusual amount of talent and things changed.
PackEyedOptimist
August 22, 2022 at 09:34 am
Oh, I'm sure it hasn't been THAT bad, murf... Let's see...
2022 Sean Rhyan
2021 Amari Rodgers
2020 Josiah DeGuara
2019 Jace Sternberger
2018 Oren Burks
2017 Montravious Adams
2016 Kyler Fackrell
2015 Ty Montgomery
2014 Khyri Thornton
2011 Alex Green
2010 Morgan Burnett
2008 Jermichael Finley
2007 James Jones
2007 Aaron Rouse
2006 Abdul Hodge
2006 Jason Spitz
2004 Joey Thomas
2004 Donnell Washington
2004 BJ Sander
2003 Kenny Peterson
2002 Marques Anderson
Oh. Oh no.
DoubleJ
August 22, 2022 at 10:10 am
There have been some decent to good R3 picks in there, granted they were mainly pre-2010. DeGuara is finally looking like an OK player. We have to give him a little bit more time since 1 he plays TE and they take 3 years to acclimate and 2 he missed most of his rookie season with an ACL. However, overall the R3 picks have been pretty unimpressive.
jannesbjornson
August 22, 2022 at 12:03 pm
Evidence seems to indicate they (BG) should trade out of the third and keep their Fours.
PackEyedOptimist
August 23, 2022 at 07:37 am
To underscore your comment, here are the fourth round picks from that same 20 years:
Romeo Doubs, Zach Tom, Royce Newman, J’mon Moore, Vince Biegl, Jamaal Williams, Blake Martinez, Dean Lowry, Jake Ryan, Carl Bradford, David Bakhtiari, JC Tretter, Jonathan Franklin, Mike Daniels, Jerron McMillan, Davon House, TJ Lang, Jeremy Thompson, Josh Sitton, Allen Barbre, Cory Rodgers, Will Blackmon, Marviel Underwood, Brady Poppinga, Najeh Davenport.
At least 15 good to very good picks, compared to maybe 3 or 4 from the third round. Pretty amazing!
Lphill
August 22, 2022 at 06:35 am
I see Slayton making the team over Ford probably.
LambeauPlain
August 22, 2022 at 12:06 pm
Slayton moves so well for a big man. A big man who shows strength too.
Heflin is another that will need a great game Thursday to have a shot at the 53. But he should make the PS.
mnbadger
August 22, 2022 at 12:40 pm
IMO - if Heflin doesn't make 53, he doesn't make PS either. Not sure why, but I'm a big fan. I still think he's as good as DLowery.
Trade Lowery for TE or S and keep Heflin. JMO.
GPG
Guam
August 22, 2022 at 07:01 am
Somebody help my aging and feeble memory. I can't remember the last time a Packer player was claimed at the cut down to 53. We annually go through this angst about losing young players at cut down and it never seems to happen. I suspect every other team is having the same issue. Remember that a player claimed off waivers can't go to the other team's practice squad, they have to go to their 53. That is a big leap of faith for the claiming team.
I think McDuffie has made the team and Ty Summers is gone. I also think Chris Slayton is playing his way onto the team and if he has another good game against KC, I don't see how the Packers cut him. As to the other guys, I think they all make the practice squad.
murf7777
August 22, 2022 at 08:05 am
Guam I agree. I went thru that debate with Toure a couple of days ago and explained that many teams have the Toure’s type, meaning there playing very good, on their team during pre-season. These players are playing against inferior talent in pre-season games compared to when live bullets start flying. We’ve had many WR’s look great in pre-season games and never catch more than 100 passes in their NFL career. Toure has potential to be good and that’s all. Those are the type of players you stash and develop.
We have to remember, you only keep 53, if we keep Toure we have to cut someone else who is playing really good. I know MLF states he will keep the best 53, but I still have to believe he will keep positions in mind while making those decisions. IE: keeping 7 WR’s vs 4 TE’s….etc…. Even if they keep 7 WR’s you probably have to choose between Winfree and Toure. I think Winfree wins that one.
I still see this team keeping 4 TE’s and that 4th TE might not be on the team right now. After next Tuesday, final cut down, there will be some good players available.
Guam
August 22, 2022 at 08:38 am
The Winfree, Rodgers, Toure debate is going to be an interesting one, particularly if the Packers only keep 6 WRs. The KC game is going to be very important for those three.
I would prefer 4 TE's and 6 Wrs since the TE position for the Packers is really a combo TE / H-back position. 3 TE's gets pretty thin, particularly with Lewis's age. He has been incredibly durable, but no one beats father time. However 4 TE's will depend on finding someone other than Tyler Davis. I think he has played his way off the roster.
The next 10 days will be very interesting.
Swisch
August 22, 2022 at 09:21 am
An out-of-the box idea would be to cut Randall Cobb, with the idea that no other team would pick him up due to his age and salary both being too high, while his ability is too diminished.
Then the Packers could reclaim him for the practice squad, then elevate him to active duty.
I emphasize once again that Cobb is one of my favorite Packers of all time, but it seems he isn't all that good anymore.
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If the Packers were serious about a Super Bowl, they would replace Cobb with Cole Beasley, a free agent who has 82 receptions each of the past two seasons.
I realize Cobb has a powerful backer in the form of a key player on the team -- so Cobb will stay at the risk of losing a promising young wide receiver.
It's this kind of dysfunction in the running of the team that, sadly, has me thinking the Packers are doomed to disappoint mightily and crushingly at some point in this upcoming season.
JonathanSpader
August 22, 2022 at 12:20 pm
Go back and watch the start of the 2021 season with a healthy Cobb. Cobb showed he still had something left in the tank. He entered the NFL at a very young age. Beasley had those receptions in a system he knows with a QB he knows. There's very little chance he would be an upgrade over Cobb. Part of the reason Cobb was brought back was to satisfy Rodgers. Why on Earth would the Packers trade for Cobb to then replace him? That's not outside the box thinking its an unrealistic take.
Coldworld
August 22, 2022 at 12:44 pm
We know why they brought him back. I agree Cobb has something left in the tank for a limited number of plays, but whether we should retain him is a valid subject of debate. That said, we will keep him, for the reason he was brought back.
murf7777
August 22, 2022 at 01:13 pm
CW….These are Cobbs stats last year for 10 games. 39 28 375 13.39 5 71.8%….28 receptions for 5 td’s at a 72% catch rate is pretty decent numbers. Many of those were key 3rd down conversions. The catch rate is a key number as he doesn’t make many mistakes and Rodgers has a connection with him. That’s going to be very important this year with young receivers and Watkins whom he hasn’t played with before. Basically, you have two WR’s who he can count on to catch the ball and run the correct route. Keeping in mind, we are not playing for tomorrow with this team. This is a year to year team trying to win the SB.
Swisch
August 22, 2022 at 02:30 pm
Cobb had some nice plays last season, but overall he's just not that good anymore, or so it seems to me.
Actually, it seems to me he hasn't been good for the past few seasons, going back to his last stint with the Packers.
It begs the question, why did the Packers let him leave in the first place?
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I love Cobb, and would be glad to be wrong about my assessment of him.
I'm glad to hear arguments for keeping him, but I'm skeptical at this point as to his value for the good of the team.
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What really concerns me is letting go of a talented young player such as Toure or Winfree to keep Cobb.
One stat that stands out from murf is that Cobb played in only 10 games last season. Does anyone think he can hold up for more games than that in 2022?
So, as we may be cutting a good player to keep Cobb, it seems to me there's a good possibility that Cobb plays for only half a season or less.
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I'd be glad to keep Cobb around as a coach, even if it's just for this season.
That's pretty much what he ends up being, anyway, when he's injured and on the sideline during games.
Coldworld
August 22, 2022 at 02:54 pm
Swish, I actually disagree on Cobb. He is good if he’s healthy. He was last year and with his former teams. The problem is that he can’t stay healthy for long. His usage last year and in camp is testimony to the fact that the team knows that and he still got hurt this summer. If there is an argument, it’s whether his likely contribution merits the spot due to its lack of scale. As I said, it’s not happening anyway, so I didn’t break down what I’d do.
Swisch
August 22, 2022 at 03:39 pm
I'm glad if Cobb is good is he's healthy, but my impression is that he's lost too much speed and quickness.
It seems Beasley is still elusive at a much greater level than Cobb in operating effectively out of the slot to pick up those key third downs. Maybe not.
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Even if we can't do anything about it, it's good to remind ourselves once in a while how much undue influence Rodgers seems to have over personnel and coaching decisions.
I can understand Rodgers being a good source of suggestions, but it seems to go much beyond that level.
Indeed, it seems Rodgers is a real pain in terms of arrogantly intruding on our GM and head coach, and that they have been weak in ceding their authority and selling out their dignity.
Worst of all, I don't see how a team functions successfully with a player usurping power so inappropriately.
To me, the heartbreaking end to the last two seasons is a sign of this dysfunction, and I cringe to think of another agonizing episode to come this January.
murf7777
August 22, 2022 at 04:42 pm
If he has lost too much speed and quickness and how is he making all these plays. He did the same the couple prior years as CW explained.
Swisch
August 22, 2022 at 05:06 pm
Maybe I'm wrong, murf, but I don't see Cobb making all that many plays over the past few years.
In any case, how many more plays must Beasley be making if he's catching 82 passes per season?
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When Cobb was not renewed by the Packers a few years ago, did fans here think it was a terrible idea to trade a player who they thought still had so much to contribute?
I don't remember an outcry here at CHTV about the folly of not retaining Cobb after the 2018 season, but maybe there was one.
murf7777
August 22, 2022 at 06:48 pm
Swisch…..I’d rather them use that salary cap space on a TE or safety vs Beasley a WR. Nothing against Beasley just think its a better use of the cap space. I really think they will be fine at WR.
LLCHESTY
August 22, 2022 at 04:01 pm
I'd like to see him used strictly as a 3rd down/red zone guy. Maybe he lasts the whole season with 20-25 snaps a game.
Coldworld
August 22, 2022 at 07:47 pm
Agreed. Critical downs only.
Swisch
August 22, 2022 at 02:43 pm
It seems two old pros like Aaron Rodgers and Cole Beasley could figure out how to work together fairly fast -- and there is about three weeks to go before our first game, and about four months before the playoffs.
We brought in Watkins for his first season with the Packers, and we have three rookies as newbies. Amari Rodgers is only in his second season. Winfree is untested in the regular season.
The only proven veteran still in his prime who played with the Packers last season is Lazard.
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As I write this it reminds me of how shortsighted it seems to have not signed MVS.
I mean, this is supposed to be a Super Bowl season, right?
At $10 million per year (with $15 million guaranteed over three seasons) it seems like a bargain to keep MVS, which was foolishly passed on by the Packers.
Signing a wily vet in Beasley would be a way to help make up for that mistake.
JonathanSpader
August 23, 2022 at 12:06 am
That horse is looking pretty dead. How about you put the stick down buddy?
Leatherhead
August 22, 2022 at 02:20 pm
I think if we cut Cobb that accelerates his payout and hurts us, salary cap-wise.
For the 50th time, It's Lazard and Watkins and Cobb, then Rodgers and Doubs and Watson. That's who we've got. One inactive on gameday..
Winfree and Toure will be cut and hopefully put on the PS.
LLCHESTY
August 22, 2022 at 04:03 pm
For the 50th time you have Rodgers in the wrong spot. If he makes the team it will be as a returner that hardly sees the field on offense.
With the way he's played he shouldn't make it at all. Has problems running the routes and he has no versatility. They have 4 better WRs that can play slot.
13TimeChamps
August 22, 2022 at 04:18 pm
Be careful. You're precariously close to being called a nitwit, drunk or mentally ill. Just a few of his favorite descriptions of anyone who disagrees with him. I have the honor of receiving more than most.
Swisch
August 22, 2022 at 05:14 pm
Leatherhead, that may be what you think the Packers are going to do (or should do) with our wide receivers, but as fans we can challenge the thinking of our team's executives and coaches (and each other).
Isn't that a big part of what CHTV is all about?
Oppy
August 22, 2022 at 05:40 pm
Wait, haven't the "covid rules" expired, and therefore, the special practice squad rules no longer apply?
In other words, can veterans still be stashed and protected on PS?
I didn't think they could anymore, but then, I'm not exactly hanging on to every article about PS eligibility rules, either.
dobber
August 22, 2022 at 07:57 pm
Yes. There are a limited number of veterans' exemptions to the PS.
Thegreatreynoldo
August 23, 2022 at 12:27 am
Up to six veterans on PS. Since I think GB at most might put two veterans on the PS, in some ways the limit is one that no team is likely to reach anyway.
wildbill
August 22, 2022 at 11:11 am
Quality linemen, both offense and defense, are worth more than a 6th or 7th WR. As it been stated, colleges are churning out WRs now and every team has a couple promising WRs at the edge of making their team.
LLCHESTY
August 22, 2022 at 04:07 pm
Exactly. I like Toure and definitely want to see him competing for a spot next year but there's no shortage of WRs.
murf7777
August 22, 2022 at 04:36 pm
Yes that’s been my point you can only keep 53 so who do you not keep if you keep a 7th WR. It’s easy to say I want them all.
JonathanSpader
August 23, 2022 at 12:09 am
One if my favorite Mike McCarthy quotes "There's only so many dancing bears in this world. You can never have too many big athletic guys." People get way too hung up on WR 6 or 7 that will have little to no impact in 2022. Look at training camp hero Winfree.
13TimeChamps
August 22, 2022 at 08:16 am
Taysom Hill is the only one that comes to mind.
Guam
August 22, 2022 at 08:30 am
Thanks 13TC, I had forgotten about Hill. I knew there had to be somebody........and I sure don't trust my memory anymore.
Coldworld
August 22, 2022 at 09:19 am
Taysom Hill. But ask yourself if we’ve had stand out talent at key positions that we’ve waived. People still have conniptions over Lazard being waived for a day.
JonathanSpader
August 22, 2022 at 12:15 pm
Taysom Hill was the last player I can think of to make the Saints 53 after the Packers tried to sneak him onto the Practice Squad.
mfairbanks82
August 22, 2022 at 01:35 pm
Jake Kumerow was claimed off waivers by the Bills after he didn't make the 53, but your point of it not happening very often is valid.
Coldworld
August 22, 2022 at 02:58 pm
I thought he was picked up a couple of days later, not actually on waivers, but I could be wrong.
dobber
August 22, 2022 at 07:59 pm
Yes. Buffalo signed him to their PS, not 53 man roster.
LeotisHarris
August 22, 2022 at 03:13 pm
Guam, there was the 2017 Cutting of Taysom Hill Incident, a day that will live in infamy, when Ted Thompson's bluff was called by the Saints. Apologies in advance for resurrection of any "I told-ya-so" activity on CHTV.
May the memory of Fightin' Joe Callahan remain untarnished.
13TimeChamps
August 22, 2022 at 03:36 pm
Taysom Hill is nothing more than an overpaid gimmick player who comes in for a few plays per game.
He's not good enough to be a fulltime QB. He was given a shot but lost out to the very average Jameis Winston.
He's not good enough to be a fulltime WR.
He's not good enough to be a fulltime RB.
Overrated and overpaid. Actually glad it's another team overpaying him.
Coldworld
August 22, 2022 at 07:51 pm
He was very good on STs for a while if I recall correctly (he’s not exactly been a focus of my attention). I was not among those who minded his departure particularly.
JonathanSpader
August 23, 2022 at 12:11 am
He's a TE at the moment and Winston was a #2 pick in the deaft that scored 5 TDs on opening day against the Packers. You claim people sling hate your way but ever think about not making stupid hateful comments yourself?
13TimeChamps
August 23, 2022 at 09:37 am
My post was primarily about Taysom Hill. Considering he is now being tried out at a 4th (TE) position, after not mastering the previous 3, I stand by my comment that he is basically an overpaid gimmick player.
As far as Winston goes, he has 135TDs/91INTs and a 87.8 career QB rating, with a 61% completion rate. I don't know about you, but that screams average to me.
My comment was neither stupid nor hateful, just truthful. I'm sorry you disagree.
wildbill
August 22, 2022 at 07:51 pm
Nice gadget player but no way does MM utilize Hill like Payton did. He would be standing on the sideline with an iPad.
PhantomII
August 22, 2022 at 08:15 pm
I remember a QB named HILL who was claimed by the Saints. Under TT.
stockholder
August 22, 2022 at 07:04 am
Improvement is a good thing. If you see it. Keep it. Open field Tackles are Awesome. Keep McDuffie! If a guy can separate. Keep him. It's what the packers have needed. DeVante Adams had hands of stone at first too. So where do we go with Amari Rodgers? Seen enough?
Goodson was a guy I wanted the packers to draft. He's special. Keep him. Abernathy really opened eyes. And that is worth protection. Dump the OL to the PS. The vets are back. If they don't show it early. They won't ever show you later. (example Spriggs) No matter how you slice it. Speed is still the answer.
Tes- Time to rob another team PS. Ruckert and Likely would be perfect.
murf7777
August 22, 2022 at 08:11 am
I’ve been a supporter of giving Rodgers a 2nd year to see how he develops, but comparing him to Adams isn’t fair to Rodgers. He will never become to Adams level.
Even after the 2nd year when Adams played thru an injury plagued year and folks wanted to send him down the road I argued that Adams was clearly the most athletic player on the field and he will very good. Didn’t know he was going to be HOF good, but I knew he was special. Rodgers isn’t the most athletic player on the field.
stockholder
August 22, 2022 at 10:27 am
They're going to have to get Amari Rodgers in space. I wasn't comparing him to Adams but the others. Jeff Janis was Loved, but couldn't hang on.
jannesbjornson
August 22, 2022 at 12:00 pm
They have A.Jones and Goodson to play the hook zones and Wheel routes to 1:1 LBs. They have more wiggle.
NickPerry
August 22, 2022 at 07:17 am
I'm going to be curious what they do with Chris Slayton especially. The kid has been playing well and it's not just against 4th quarter O-Linemen who will probably be doing something other than playing on Sundays. With Clark, Reed, Lowry, Wyatt, and probably Slaton, do the Packers keep SIX D-Linemen?
With Jenkins, Bakhtiari, Watson, and Big Bobby all off the PUP list, that's 4 guys they'll have to carry on the 53 whether their ready for week one or not. Cuts are going to be really tough this year for the Packers. HOPEFULLY, they don't end up on that hideous purple team going against the Packers in week one.
PackEyedOptimist
August 22, 2022 at 07:27 am
Nick, my top "hard to cut" guy is also Chris Slayton. I've been saying he's this year's Jack Heflin--he just keeps making plays. I wonder how he's doing on special teams? Same for Wyatt.
jannesbjornson
August 22, 2022 at 10:47 am
I have advocated for Six on the D-line since 2019. Keep a sustained rotation, especially with Montgomery running his stunt schemes. Chris Slayton was a solid guy at Syracuse. Heflin may sneak to the PS. I didn't attend any practices this year, so will leave the Slayton v. Heflin decision on hold until the KC scrimmage is completed.
stockholder
August 22, 2022 at 10:55 am
True - But look how many guys never developed. They can get Slayton to the PS. Heflin is only a rotation guy.
jannesbjornson
August 22, 2022 at 11:02 am
We knew some were scrubs when they drafted them. Syracuse's pass rushers were under-valued. More heavy fronts with flexible guys this season. No more runs for first downs on 3rd and 8....
stockholder
August 22, 2022 at 11:25 am
Raji went outside. Clarke can too.
jannesbjornson
August 22, 2022 at 11:32 am
Clark is my 3-6 tech. The nose can go to Slaton and Slayton, LLP.
LLCHESTY
August 22, 2022 at 09:32 pm
6T? You want Clark to line head up on the TE? Where is Gary going to line up, the 2nd row?
stockholder
August 22, 2022 at 10:50 am
Slayton to the PS. 7 WR, 3 TEs, 10 OL, 3 RBs, 2-3 Qbs. 26 on offense Keep 10 Dbs. 9 LBs 5 DL. 24 on defense. 1 P 1 PK 1 LS.
jannesbjornson
August 22, 2022 at 11:28 am
OK, but I still stash Slayton for Six. The PS for Heflin as Gary can flex up or down. 6 D-line, 5 OLB, 4 ILB, 5 CBs, 4 at safety and the punter. Two QBs, Seven wideouts to protect Toure'. 3 RBs with Taylor to PS and use him later in the season, 3 TEs because that's all they have and add a guy to make four. Ten for the O-line assuming Jenkins can get on the field and stash Jones. Two Specialists. La Darious Hamilton probably goes to PS for Edge depth. Trench warfare.
Coldworld
August 22, 2022 at 07:21 am
MvDuffie has locked up a spot already. He’s ILB 3. Barnes will be the other. Wilborn may be the better example. I think he makes the PS. As far as Carpenter goes, he’s a rookie that missed camp. I wouldn’t be surprised if he goes to season long IR, but if not I’d not worry about getting him to the PS.
Ford has been unimpressive in games. I think Ford makes the PS if we want him. The question marks are Heflin and Slayton. Slayton as a big man showing potential to disrupt might be a particular risk if we try to stash him, simply because teams can’t find enough of them. We may try though because Slaton, Reed, Clark, Wyatt and Lowry are locks. Unless we trade Lowry. Hefflin as a run first DE is probably less likely to be picked up than Slayton, just because those are less valued.
Jones I would not risk. Teams can’t find enough tackles and Jones has proved he has talent and size. We got away with it with Nijman because of the narrative put out by his college coaches that he couldn’t be trained (why he wasn’t drafted).
Toure I would not risk. He’s shown deep speed, an ability to get open, to track the ball and make spectacular catches while operating both in the slot and outside. Yes, he’s not the finished article, but he’s got everything teams look for in a prospect. He’s already shown he is more talented than his draft position.
Goodson is another with talent, but let’s be honest with ourselves, he should make it as our 3/4th RB and be our slot/option guy instead of Rodgers. Other than returns, Rodgers will make the PS. Limited versatility, issues getting open, small, marginal athleticism compared to other slots. Go with Goodson, save a roster spot. At this point Taylor makes it at RB I think for both STs and as a hard yards guy to back up Dillon and the best protector.
CVL probably makes the PS. He could make the roster. I think they’ve made a mess with their Hanson infatuation and wasted a chance to have Tom ready to play C. CVL would then be a swing player.
Who knows who Abernathy is? I think he makes the PS. He’s a true under the radar guy via the USFL. However he could also make the roster due to need. Gaines’ performance now he’s back may determine that in conjunction with whether they want to get Scott to in season IR.
The highest risk guys for me are Toure (demonstrated upside), Caleb Jones (same and position) and Slayton (positional potential). If those only Toure likely could help this season (depth at DL and T once Bakh and Jenkins are ready: Nijman and Tom are ahead of Jones and there’s a log jam this year in front of Slayton/Heflin, unless we pull a Lowry trade.
If it were me I’d trade Rodgers (player or pick), have Doubs/Watson/Goodson handle returns and keep Goodson as a true option/Slot. I’d keep Toure. Just too much potential on film. I’d try very hard to find a way to keep Jones. I wonder if Rhyan has done enough or is risked. Seems radical on draft position but not unprecedented as he was widely viewed as a pure G prospect by the league. I’d risk Slayton particularly uncomfortably and Heflin reluctantly but absent a trade there is no room and Heflin isn't a premium role prospect.
The rest I think make it if we want them. I have a suspicion Walker (T) is going to season ending IR but that he might be back next year.
dobber
August 22, 2022 at 07:56 am
'CVL probably makes the PS. He could make the roster. ....The highest risk guys for me are Toure (demonstrated upside), Caleb Jones (same and position) "
The Packers have the enviable position of being rich in talent and potential at the OT position. Even if Bakh is slow to come back, yet, they've got guys who can play, and others who will be able to with a little more work. They should have no problem finding a trade partner if they go looking, but they should be keeping an eye on 2023 when Bakhtiari is likely gone.
Coldworld
August 22, 2022 at 08:39 am
Cobb, Watkins and Bakh are more likely gone next year than not. So are Lowry and Reed. A. Jones is quite possibly in his last year here too. That’s certainly a factor in my thinking.
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
August 22, 2022 at 09:53 am
Dobber,
My thoughts as well!
LLCHESTY
August 22, 2022 at 09:35 pm
I'm guessing they want to get Walker to the PS at T too.
Coldworld
August 22, 2022 at 09:56 pm
I can see them keeping him on the IR and bringing him back next year. That foot isn’t right still.
T7Steve
August 22, 2022 at 08:08 am
All of you guys make a lot of sense about these guys. What a great problem to have.
CW, as you've raved before, Caleb Jones is a must keeper (Friday night proved it) to back up the tackle spot and see quite a few snaps in the fourth quarters of games if not at the beginning of the season. Keep Nij in there and have EJ play guard and back up center if you have to. That takes care of the Hansen problem.
The rest of the guys that aren't OL or DL, have to go with speed. Can't coach speed. Speed is on the squad regardless, have to be able to use that speed on special teams if no where else
HawkPacker
August 22, 2022 at 11:27 am
After watching the last game, I do agree on Caleb Jones as it looks like we need to keep him or he will get claimed. The KC game should feature him to see how he looks for consistency's sake at a minimum.
All the talk about Goodson makes some sense. I am a Hawkeye fan and last year I was disappointed with him at Iowa. He sure did not want to get his nose dirty. He really avoided contact and just plain gave up and did not try to get any extra yards. He does have the spin move which is good. Not sure how good he is at blocking but suspect he needs a lot of work. If we are moving on from Aaron Jones next year and we think that Goodson could be his replacement then maybe we retain his services.
jannesbjornson
August 22, 2022 at 10:57 am
Good calls overall, but Hanson has way more experience playing center than Tom. His cross-training at the Guard spot fills out the Patrick replacement. Nine on the O line. Ten, if they feel Caleb Jones will not pass the waiver wire. Quite a bit depends on Jenkins status.
LLCHESTY
August 22, 2022 at 04:15 pm
I'm not sure Rodgers is trade able, except for "a guy we were going to cut for a guy you were going to cut" type of deal.
If they cut Rodgers I could see the Bears picking him up(Getsy) but I doubt he would make it a full season on their roster as they already have a returner. At some point the Packers could put him back on the PS.
Tundraboy
August 22, 2022 at 07:32 pm
Totally agree, particularly with Jones and Toure. Goodson. too. No need for JAGs anymore on this team. There's a lot of talent to pick from, talent to build with, some potentially difference makers, from what my eyes are telling me.
vin0770
August 22, 2022 at 07:35 am
So this strong leg kicker that made a 61 yarder in the USFL this year hasn’t missed anything. How do we keep him around for insurance without him getting scarfed up?
Coldworld
August 22, 2022 at 08:01 am
He’s got a reputation for inaccuracy. I think that helps. It’s possible he’s on the roster anyway at this point as Crosby isn’t off PUP. If they believe Crosby will be ready I’d just not try many kicks this week and no long ones.
stockholder
August 22, 2022 at 10:39 am
Nobody is going to sign Crosby. Keep the kid with the leg. If he fails, bring back Crosby.
Coldworld
August 22, 2022 at 12:47 pm
Cap hit would preclude that even if other considerations didn’t.
Thegreatreynoldo
August 23, 2022 at 12:45 am
Cutting Crosby saves a couple million on the cap.
RCPackerFan
August 22, 2022 at 07:36 am
Goodson -
I think he is our RB3. He really adds something to the offense. He is explosive and adds juice to the offense. I think they keep Hill on pup list to start the season. Which allows Goodson to be on the 53. Also i think Goodson could help on special teams. I honestly am really excited for Goodson. He sort of reminds me of Tyler Ervin. But I think Goodson is a better runner. They are wanting to do more 2 RB sets. Goodson could fill the Aaron Jones role. He can do similar things to Jones. Pairing them together could give the offense some really unique looks.
McDuffie I think is on the 53. He has been right behind Campbell at ILB. He would be the 3/4 ILB. I don't think Summers will be. Unless they love him on Special Teams.
Van Lanen and Abbernathy - Both are still longer shots at this point IMO. Abbernathy really did make an impression after just getting signed this last week or so. He could make it based on other Safety's being injured. And maybe he flashes more in the next game forcing them to keep him. Van Lanen is trying to make the 53 when Jenkins and Bakhtiari just came off the PUP list. Which means it will be even harder. Maybe its a 3 way battle between him, Hanson and Caleb Jones for the spot.
Speaking of Caleb Jones. I think he is making it very hard to cut him. He has really played well. I don't know if he will make the 53 but he is really pushing for it.
Chris Slayton may not make the 53 either, but he really has played well. Its a numbers game and I don't know if he will make it. But he is a guy really pushing for it. If they keep 6 DL, it likely will be down to Heflin, Ford and Slayton. Which i think will more likely be between Slayton and Heflin. And they may not even keep 6. But if they do Slayton is really pushing for the spot.
HawkPacker
August 22, 2022 at 11:36 am
Good post RC. Let me add a few things.
I also believe McDuffie makes the team along with Barnes and hopefully they cut Summers. Did you see him get faked out of his jock last Friday. It happened a couple years ago in a game as well.
With all the OL guys we have now, especially with Bakh and Jenkins back, I do not see any way the do not cut Van Lanen.
Caleb Jones--as I mentioned above, the KC game will tell us a lot and I do not think they can cut him and retain him on the PS.
DL--I have said since April/May that they will cut or trade Lowry post June 1. They could add a good safety or TE. Nothing against Lowry, but we are pretty loaded at that position. I guess the question is, can Heflin, Slayton and Wyatt be developed into better players?
Bure9620
August 22, 2022 at 07:45 am
Most of these players are not as hard to cut as many would think, particularly the WRs.
The one player I actually hope they keep on the 53 is Caleb Jones. The others can be found elsewhere easily but there are not many 370 pound 6'9" Tackles. I realize he is indeed a project but in the run game? Holy crap give me some of that. He just moves other humans against their will. Even if you just put him in as a 6th linemen for goal line or 3rd and short?? A 250 pound back running behind a 370 Tackle should gain a yard.
dobber
August 22, 2022 at 08:00 am
"Most of these players are not as hard to cut as many would think, particularly the WRs."
I think you're right, Bure. I think we're overestimating value outside GB.
DoubleJ
August 22, 2022 at 10:23 am
With Jones perhaps we can bring back the Sherman era U71 package.
HawkPacker
August 22, 2022 at 11:37 am
Great idea Bure. I never thought of adding Jones to the line when close to the goal line. I like it.
jannesbjornson
August 22, 2022 at 11:41 am
If they expose Jones, the Ravens would be a team to potentially claim him for their power concepts.
Bure9620
August 22, 2022 at 01:16 pm
He is certainly their pedigree of player
murf7777
August 22, 2022 at 04:52 pm
Bure…. Your right there aren’t many 370lb Tackles and that is because few ever make it in the NFL. There are exceptions but very few good ones. There just to big and not agile enough. Watch CJ when trying to run block when he is pulling and you will see what I mean. He’s a project.
Coldworld
August 22, 2022 at 08:18 pm
Bryant McKinnie wasn’t bad. Nor were Trent Brown and Nate Newton. I think they were heavier too. Not too many candidates out there, but if they are not just big men but athletes it been done just fine. I think Buffalo drafted a heavier one this year and Mekhi Becton is still in the league. All of those are or were heavier I think.
LLCHESTY
August 22, 2022 at 09:44 pm
Ogden is the 1st giant I think of. Pure freak.
Tundraboy
August 22, 2022 at 08:31 pm
The Freezer?
PackyCheese500
August 22, 2022 at 07:53 am
Here are, in my opinion, players who should make the 53:
McDuffie - already made it.
C. Jones - I’d take him over CVL, who profiles more as a G and would be more likely to make the PS. Jones has incredible physical talent, and could develop into another Yosh type player (remember- Yosh went undrefted too).
Goodson - Taylor will be easier to get to the PS. Goodson not so much. He’s quick, and has great explosiveness.
Jean-Charles and Thomas - Gafford had the most coverage casualties, and unless there is some special teams role for him, he’s on the PS.
Abernathy - KEEP MICAH ABERNATHY ON THE ROSTER! With the lack of S depth, any good signs with depth players are tremendous.
Now, for Slayton - my only concern is whether the Packers will keep a 6th DL. If they do, Slayton’s got it, but I don’t think they will given their already great depth there..
5th OLB for me is between K. Jones and Hamilton. 7th WR between Winfrey and Toure (I, as a husker fan, would prefer Toure; he’s shown lots of potential).
We’ll continue to see…
dobber
August 22, 2022 at 07:59 am
Across the league, every training camp is littered with RBs with juice in their legs--like Goodson--but have a big deficiency in their game (e.g. don't block). I think he makes the PS if the Packers go that route.
I don't know what to make of Caleb Jones. Korey STringer 2.0?
I don't see 7 WRs on this team.
Coldworld
August 22, 2022 at 08:22 am
If one is Rodgers to handle returns I do definitely, but I’m probably leaning towards 7 anyway. I really don’t think we will see him on O absent game day injuries. If your actives are Lazard, Watkins, Cobb, Doubs, Winfree, then he’s probably no better than the 4th slot option.
If one is injured, the next man up should be Toure or Watson, depending on who and how far along Watson is. Both can play the slot or outside. Injuries are likely anyway and particularly with Cobb and Watkins. We’ve already seen that. There is a next year factor in both Toure and Watson as well. If they do give Goodson the slot option role then maybe we risk Toure or Taylor but with his film on separation, deep speed and catch radius, I wouldn’t risk Toure and I think it’s pretty clear Taylor is the third down guy they want and a core ST piece.
I think that, in the end, Doubs handles returns with some support from Watson and maybe Goodson, especially on kickoffs. I think that the combinations of talent, durability and inexperience make this an atypical year.
stockholder
August 22, 2022 at 11:19 am
I don't see them cutting or trading Amari Rodgers. He will be the 6th WR. Toure plays the slot. Winfree doesn't. The versatility of Toure is what this team needs. He doesn't need space! #7 WR! Cobb is a injury away from calling it a career. Winfree has played well. But he's the guy who's reached his ceiling.
HawkPacker
August 22, 2022 at 11:41 am
I like Winfree and hope they find a place for him.
jannesbjornson
August 22, 2022 at 11:46 am
I see Toure' and Winfree in the seven and move Rodgers via trade. Winfree is insurance for Watkins as a big wide. Then again, Watson will more than likely fill the role once he hits the turf. I have all three rookies in the WR room. Winfree vs Rodgers.
Coldworld
August 22, 2022 at 12:57 pm
Winfree does and has played the slot, even this preseason. All his snaps against SF were from the slot. Doubs, Toure, Lazard, Cobb and Rodgers have all played in the slot this preseason significantly, only Cobb and Rodgers have not played other positions. Watkins has not played in the slot as far as I know here. Watson almost certainly will play some slot and Jones will too. If they keep Goodson he will as well.
All, every single one of them (who has practiced) is a better WR in the slot in terms of plays made in camp and games, ability to get free, catch radius, athleticism. It is not even close. The exception, Watson, is just on another level in terms of potential. If Rodgers sticks it’s to return punts. I think Doubs does that when it matters though.
Swisch
August 22, 2022 at 05:36 pm
There are indeed a lot of running backs with juice in their legs trying to make it in the NFL, but not all that many who seem to have the burst and quickness and elusiveness of Goodson.
He could be something special.
We'll watch him against the Chiefs, and hope the coaches make a good evaluation of him based also on practices.
While it's hard to tell about Goodson at this point, I hate the idea of letting go of guys who have the potential to be exciting playmakers.
PatrickGB
August 22, 2022 at 07:54 am
As was pointed out, a lot of players that teams try to “sneak” onto their PS go unclaimed on the waver wire and it turns out to be a non issue. I believe that a team can offer a bonus to a player for signing on to the team but that’s it. The team that claims have to put him on their roster. I can’t recall a player that we liked that got away. A few chose other teams but that was up to them
Coldworld
August 22, 2022 at 08:33 am
But Taysom Hill did!
We have not had a truly physically talented receiving prospect to put out there in years. Sorry Abbedaris and Kumerow fans. Lazard was an unknown UDFA when we did who wasn’t thought athletic enough or to have a true position. We certainly haven’t had an exciting DL type either.
We got away with Nijman as well because teams had just ignored him in the draft (like Lazard) and he hadn’t really been seen in camp. RBs seldom get picked up. The danger with Goodson is that someone sees his hands (exceptional) and option/slot potential as well as his running.
Teams scout practices hard, but they are looking for immediate utility or better and demonstrated upside. Jones, Toure, Goodson and maybe even Slayton might have done enough to excite. It only takes one.
PatrickGB
August 22, 2022 at 03:30 pm
Taysom Hill! …meh. Would the team really be able to utilize him? Imagine the fuss about who is the backup QB if he were on the team. But I understand the thinking.
Coldworld
August 22, 2022 at 08:01 pm
No. And certainly that era MM. that was an attempt at being facetious
KKB
August 22, 2022 at 08:01 am
I want to see Caleb Jones try to block a FG. Put 2 of the biggest hogs in the middle of the line to crush the center, and give jones a place to jump. With that height and long arms, MAYBE GB will finally block a kick.
mrtundra
August 22, 2022 at 08:19 am
I think they'll keep Aaron Rodgers, even though he hasn't shown much in the preseason games. That's about all I am sure of, at this point!
Coldworld
August 22, 2022 at 08:35 am
He’s had spells of inaccuracy and a number picked off. I’d temper that certainty somewhat.
RCPackerFan
August 22, 2022 at 09:42 am
I'm not sure. The battle at QB is heating up. Bakhtiari looked great yesterday from what I saw on Twitter.
HarryHodag
August 22, 2022 at 09:05 am
You can't keep them all. But at cut down day 31 other teams will also be putting players 'too good to cut' on their practice squads. That provides some protection for the Packers players getting plucked.
To me, McDuffie is a no-brainer to keep, as is Goodson. He's better than Taylor and noticeably quicker.
Abernathy has 'it', that ability to make plays. Why would you cut him? I suspect Sal Cannella has the same thing at TE. Van Lanen has been around awhile. He had to make a splash to win a job. I don't know that he did it, but he's shown more than Rhyan. Rhyan is more likely a practice squad player.
It's good to have tough calls on cut down day. It shows you have quality players ahead of the back ups.
LambeauPlain
August 22, 2022 at 12:27 pm
This has been an enjoyable camp for me...so much talent at so many positions.
RB is no different. The major camp decision: Who will be the #3?
Goodson has more production but several more chances as Taylor was hurt most of camp. Goodson is a great receiver...Taylor a ST standout (had about the only solid ST coverage tackles on Friday). Thursday will tell the tale.
Hill and Dexter Williams are still in the mix. Hill likely IR and Dex possible PS.
13TimeChamps
August 22, 2022 at 09:48 am
Toure has certainly demonstrated potential. But how many teams are willing to claim a 7th round rookie WR with potential to add him to their 53? I'd be surprised if he were claimed.
Also, do we really want 3 rookie WR's on this team, considering Watson and Doubs are locks? It's always a risk, but I think they try to move him to the PS. Either way, we'll find out soon enough.
dobber
August 22, 2022 at 12:30 pm
There's the key: a waiver claim means you've got to put a guy on your 53...that's after you've had your own cuts. There's only a small number of waiver claims at cutdowns every year.
Coldworld
August 22, 2022 at 01:03 pm
Go look at the Bears roster and tell me they won’t be looking to get a deep threat versatile guy. It might not be Toure, but they aren’t the the only team likely looking. Again, this is not the marginal athlete WRs we typically had crushes on in recent years.
JonathanSpader
August 23, 2022 at 12:22 am
Samori Toure was drafted with pick 258 of round 7 in the 2022 draft class. He scored a 6.15 RAS out of a possible 10.00. This ranked 1072 out of 2785 WR from 1987 to 2022.
Toure’s relative athletic score ranks as a 6.15 on a 10-point scale, but it jumps all the way up to an 8.06 score if you exclude his 10-yard split and bench press, which should not have a heavy impact on a receiver’s evaluation.
*Acme Packing Company*
ImaPayne
August 22, 2022 at 01:07 pm
Like the abernathy kid he shows great anticipation of the play and is there to make a move. I think he is actually better then a couple of our safeties we have.
Keep goodson as the third and try and put others on the shelf.
ImaPayne
August 22, 2022 at 01:10 pm
I wonder how much time the staff spends on what ifs with other teams.
Seems the Vikes have a hoard of running backs and they too cannot keep them all. they also have some good looking corners, ditto.
Does our staff just worry about which of our guys we can keep and not focus on some better talent of other teams being cut?
The Rams have a receiver who was tall, fast and catching everything the past two games and the analyst said he may not make the team due to the talent already there. This guy looks better then any of our rookies so far.
Coldworld
August 22, 2022 at 03:05 pm
Gute’s pro team will have a board without doubt. We could yet see some surprise changes after the cuts.
Tedlyflyfisher
August 22, 2022 at 01:21 pm
ColdWorld, I like your thoughts on this.
I am in agreement that Amari is a lost cause and I’d like to see others take the returns on, as well as the reverses and misdirection plays. (Toure? Gafford? Goodson?)
The guys I’m most concerned about losing are Micah Abernathy, Kiondre Thomas and Samori Toure. I really want to see Toure get more snaps in this last preseason game. His speed could be very helpful this year without MVS.
Granted, Abernathy has only been in GB for a week or so and only in 1 preseason game, but I have a feeling what we’ve seen isn’t just a fluke.
As for Shawn Davis, I’m not sure I see a lot of value there. I’ve read that he was looking good in OTA’s, but that was an egregious missed tackle in the last game by him that resulted in a 50+ yard kick return. Sure he gathered in that fumble and ran quite a ways, but it seemed like that was due more to luck than anything else. I’m not sure why he’s not being listed as a bubble guy.
Has anyone heard anything about Kylin Hill? I’m thinking we’d be hearing about it if he was close to being healthy enough to go. What a shame if he gets cut due to the injury. These young guys have to be feeling an enormous amount of stress knowing that the final cut to 53 is only about a week away! Here’s hoping Gutey and LaFleur make the right decisions!
Leatherhead
August 22, 2022 at 02:30 pm
I am in agreement that Amari is a lost cause
Wow. He had a better rookie preseason than the great Doubs. He doesn't miss time with injury. He doesn't turn it over. But let's give up on him after throwing him 8 passes.
Sheeesh. Let's admit Wyatt is a lost cause and cut him, too, while we're at it.
Coldworld
August 22, 2022 at 03:08 pm
Rodgers had a better first preseason than Doubs? That’s about the most ludicrous thing I’ve heard.
Hill doesn’t have to be cut. He’s looking like he’s going to hit the PUP. He can sit there without taking up a roster spot.
HawkPacker
August 22, 2022 at 03:26 pm
Me thinks he's pulling our chains!!
LLCHESTY
August 22, 2022 at 04:38 pm
No, he's just unwilling to admit when he's wrong.
LLCHESTY
August 22, 2022 at 09:59 pm
Aaron is coming around on the rookies I guess.
"Doubs has done a lot of really nice things. But I think the standard for him is not going to be maybe the standard for a normal rookie we’ve had here in the past, especially in the past four or five years, because he’s going to be expected to play based on his performance so far in camp,” Rodgers said.
Coldworld
August 22, 2022 at 10:54 pm
“Doubs has done a lot of really nice things. The standard for him is not going to be the standard for a normal rookie here in the past, especially in the last 4-5 years. He’s going to be expected to play based on his performance so far in camp.”
Aaron Rodgers, August 22nd, 2022
Leatherhead
August 22, 2022 at 04:57 pm
10 DBs
8 LBs
6 DL
That's 24 on defense.
10 OL
5 WR
4 TE
2 QB
4 RB
That's 25 on offense. 49, room for one more. I think we should keep Slayton instead of Heflin.
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
August 22, 2022 at 09:41 pm
Agree on Slayton
LLCHESTY
August 22, 2022 at 10:01 pm
They'll keep 5 OLBs.
Cartwright
August 23, 2022 at 03:00 am
No one's mentioned tight end, maybe because we ain't got any. Keep Lewis, hope for the best with Tonyan and cut the rest their just scrubs. This position, TE, needs improvement more than any other.
NoNonsense
August 23, 2022 at 03:12 am
Tyler Goodson and Isaiah McDuffie have made this team, I would be shocked if they cut either guy, that would be a big mistake IMO.
Caleb Jones is a guy I strongly recommend keeping as well. If they're gonna error on the side of keeping the best 53 and not just go with certain depth numbers at each position, he should make the team. If Chris Slayton plays well again Thursday than he might be a guy thats hard to cut.
Other tough cuts are Kiondre Thomas hes my 6th CB if they keep 6, Samori Toure it's him vs Winfree but due to preference of 12 Winfree probably wins that battle. Jack Heflin good enough to keep but victim of the numbers game.
I think TE (3), Safety (4), and OLB (4) can survive with minimal depth on the initial 53 while keeping several guys on the PS for added depth.