The Good, the Bad and the Ugly: Rams vs Packers

Aaron hands out the Good, the Bad and the Ugly from the Green Bay Packers Week 12 win over the Los Angeles Rams.

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ImaPayne's picture

November 28, 2021 at 10:39 pm

Good - the way the pack toughed it out and said to the Rams, were hurt but bring, it were not rolling over: o line was incredible. Apparently Mr Donald aint so hot and Miller, he is a faded shadow of what he used to be.
Douglas play was steller

Bad: Watching Stokes. Hey at the very end he came up and busted up a play and almost had an interception. Wonder who told him he could do that versus staying back ten yards and letting the guy he is covering catch the ball. Amos looked lost at time, and Sullivan has no speed to play deep. Stokes should be a safety. Again, teams are getting back in games with long passes going un contested. Going burn us in the end.

Ugly - what is it with Amari Rodgers. Does he now know we get the ball in the 25 versus him being stuffed at the 19? Special teams still need a lot of work.

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kozmo's picture

November 28, 2021 at 11:35 pm

Oh come on? Stokes...hes a rookie right?

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Minniman's picture

November 29, 2021 at 03:10 am

Agree re Stokes. He's a rookie and he's gonna make rookie mistakes. He also atones for those mistakes with solid play against league leading receivers.

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NickPerry's picture

November 29, 2021 at 05:12 am

What game do you watch every Sunday??

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Kevin Carpenter's picture

November 29, 2021 at 05:28 am

Come on, guy. You have to realize that Rodgers didn't have a choice on most of those kickoffs because they kicked it short of the endzone, forcing a return. Teams used to do that to us because they knew we didn't have the coverage units or a dangerous returner who could go the distance. I've never seen teams actually kick it SHORT of the goal line on a consistent basis because they feared a returner less than the default 25 yard line. Also, you know Sullivan and Douglas were the ones who got burned deep, not Stokes, right?

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Bure9620's picture

November 29, 2021 at 06:51 am

Eric Stokes was targeted 10 times and gave up 3 receptions for 20 yards. This is pretty solid, 30% completion rate.

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PackBacker's picture

November 29, 2021 at 10:10 am

Amari Rodgers is a rookie. He'll be fine. I remember when Davante Adams had a problem with drops early in his career. As far as I can tell that seemed to work out okay.

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barutanseijin's picture

November 28, 2021 at 10:45 pm

Good : Packer OL backups against the bestest DL ever
Bad: Packer kick return team, Crosby
Ugly : Losers who can’t handle losing. Lookin’ at you Aaron Donald

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Since'61's picture

November 28, 2021 at 10:56 pm

I would not consider the Rams current DL the best ever. Not even close. The Rams actually had a better DL back in the 60s and the Packers beat them as well.

I can think of numerous DLs that were better than the Rams front 4. Thanks, Since ‘61

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barutanseijin's picture

November 28, 2021 at 11:11 pm

I wouldn’t consider them the best, either, hence the sarcasm

There was a lot of hyperventilation about the fearsome Rams D. Even Vegas bought the hype.

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Minniman's picture

November 29, 2021 at 03:21 am

TBH I thought that the Cards and 49ers fronts were more formidable.

They actually prepared the Packers for dealing with the Rams front.

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Since'61's picture

November 29, 2021 at 10:07 am

Regrettably, one of the problems with e-Communications is that the nuances of sarcasm, etc. doesn't always come through. I appreciate the clarification. Thanks, Since '61

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Bure9620's picture

November 29, 2021 at 08:49 am

Me either '61, I actually think the Bucs line last year was just at good

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AnotherLombardiPlease's picture

November 28, 2021 at 10:48 pm

The Good: The resilient character of this team.

The Bad: Special teams... DUH!

The Ugly: The hype given to the match up of our "patchwork" offensive line vs. the mighty Rams' pass rush with Aaron Donald and his co-stars.

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Since'61's picture

November 28, 2021 at 10:52 pm

The Good: Aaron Rodgers, Dillon, Adams, Deguara, Run defense, K. Clark, Gary, Douglas, Amos. 40 minutes TOP.

The Bad: Defense gave up 2 easy TDs, Cobb muffed punt

The Ugly: 2 point conversion try, another missed FG, another 2 point conversion allowed.

Overall a dominant performance by a tired and wounded Packers team. Final score made the game look closer than it was. Packers OL was solid if unspectacular against a very good front 4. I like that this edition of the Packers plays physically and mentally tough.
This game bodes well for the Packers if we can get healthy over the bye and get some of our starters back; Bak, Myers, Jones on offense and Alexander and Z. Smith on defense. A well earned and overdue bye week is finally here. GPG! Thanks, Since ‘61

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Minniman's picture

November 29, 2021 at 03:31 am

Re TOP - Like Nagler said in his Gut Reactions thread, the Ugly was not bringing AJ Dillon in more on the second last drive of the game to pound the rock and burn even more time.

They'll need to get sharper at snuffing out games with better clock management. They seem to go for "dagger" plays (that presently aren't coming off ) instead of clock management plays.

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Kevin Carpenter's picture

November 29, 2021 at 05:36 am

It's difficult when you have a hard time rushing up the middle. This offensive line has been nothing short of amazing with all of the injuries and patches along it. With that being said, they have had real trouble creating holes at times. Against Bears, the WFT, the Seahawks and most recently the Rams, the Packers averaged less than 4 yards an attempt. A lot of their success has honestly been because Dillon is simply a monster. They are constantly getting hit in the backfield and sometimes Jones can make a guy miss but for the most part they have to do all of the work because the line can't open up holes for them to run through. Last year the Packers had Jenkins Linsley and Patrick (G) opening up holes. This year the combination of Runyan, Patrick (C) and Newman are proving serviceable but definitely not top tier in the run game.

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Since'61's picture

November 29, 2021 at 10:09 am

I agree, the Packers need Bak and Myers to return ASAP. That should improve the running game which we will need to be more effective when we reach the playoffs. GPG! Thanks, Since '61

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Kevin Carpenter's picture

November 30, 2021 at 12:06 am

I wish Jenkins would never have gotten hurt 😔

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Philarod's picture

November 28, 2021 at 10:52 pm

Good: Rodgers running for a TD on one good foot, and overall good play; Dillon's constant extra efforts; the patched-up O-line hanging in there against a vaunted front; forcing a fumble on STs; Gary forcing a fumble recovered by Preston; Amos's amazing stop on 4th-and-1; Rasul Douglas (obviously).

Bad: I don't want to dwell on the bad, and I don't want to write him off yet, but does Amari Rodgers ever even have a decent return?! Cobb had some big plays, but he just can't muff that kick on a fair catch!

Ugly: Stafford - great talent that he is - (if I'm not mistaken) has thrown as many Pick-6s in the last few weeks as AR has in his whole career. He probably could've had at least 3 or 4 INTs today. Some good throws today, but a lot were off-target.

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Minniman's picture

November 29, 2021 at 03:39 am

Re your Ugly - Stafford's INT propensity

Maybe the fact that the Packers brought their Safeties up more often (to double team Kupp and OBJ) - and leaving the deep ball opportunities - was the bait to try and get Stafford to bite?

Maybe the Packers D brains trust thought that they'd risk a couple of big play opportunities to get the pick opportunities (that shows serious faith in the secondary if its true).

Stafford's not unknown to the Packers...... and he's had some decent receivers to throw to throughout his career (Megatron, Kenny Golladay)

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cpabandit's picture

November 29, 2021 at 05:38 am

The brain trust thought wrong however. The bait cost the Packers on a 79 yd. TD pass to Jefferson and a 54 yd. TD pass to Beckham. Too much faith in the secondary. Savage has hands of stone, makes Jermichael Finley's hand seem like cotton.

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croatpackfan's picture

November 29, 2021 at 10:08 am

Well, I will always take 2 long TDs in one game and max 16 points, because that is path to succes, because Packers are very often Capable to score 17 points with easy. So Rams had 2 long passes that had worked. How many long passes from Rams had not work? Do you know?

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Minniman's picture

November 29, 2021 at 12:38 pm

Perhaps misguided faith -

I think that Sullivan was targeted on the 79 yarder and Stokes on the 54.

I'll have to re-watch the game to see how may other deep balls went un-caught.

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EnemyTerritory's picture

November 29, 2021 at 07:15 pm

From what I’ve heard Stafford is also playing with multiple injuries

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mnbadger's picture

November 28, 2021 at 10:57 pm

Good. offensive line and general team toughness
Bad. Arod accuracy. hopefully his bad wheel is the leading cause.
Ugly. Mason Bing (Bong) Crosby boinking short kicks off the post then looking like a HS kicker as if he had no idea what happened. Gotta get that fixed because we don't score enough touchdowns when we get close.
None the less, great win, stick a fork in the rams. GPG!

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Upnorth's picture

November 28, 2021 at 11:02 pm

Good: Packers D-line and linebackers
Bad: Beating a dead horse but obviously all levels of specials teams. I still like the Amari pick, but maybe they can get someone else to do returns this year and groom him for 2022.
Ugly: Two point conversions…honestly have we converted even 25% in the past several years?

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4thand1's picture

November 28, 2021 at 11:20 pm

Yes Up, kicking the extra point would have the Pack up by 9 before the onside kick. The rams would have had to ditch the FG and try to score twice. No time for that.

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Tundraboy's picture

November 29, 2021 at 12:29 am

Packers don't do 2 pt conversions, (either way)!! Yikes

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DanW's picture

November 28, 2021 at 11:12 pm

I have a question for Packer fans of Cheesehead TV: Where is all that vitriol and venom that so many of you directed at Aaron Rodgers just a couple of months ago???

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haevs6's picture

November 28, 2021 at 11:26 pm

Great call Dan... I was around in the mid 80's, early 90's.....Does anyone remember how bad we were?? AR makes us a contender as long as we can keep him....Hopefully many more years

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Wrongbayfeldlman's picture

November 29, 2021 at 01:11 am

I still don’t like the guy. He’s a dick.
He wanted Guty fired? Guty has put together one hell of a team.
I don’t like him, but I’ve never questioned his talent.
He maybe the best qb to ever play the game.
If he or any other player wants to leave and disrupts the team like a spoiled child, let him go, If you don’t like it here, I don’t want you.

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Gee's picture

November 29, 2021 at 06:36 am

Hmm this all happened after a certain draft. Up until that he was a great employee, he played during the last few years of both TT drafts and DC defenses. That alone should tell he didn't want to leave.

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jurp's picture

November 29, 2021 at 08:29 am

But he obviously wants to leave now, I am, though, very glad that he's committed to winning with the Packers this year. I think the out we've given him after this year has also given him peace of mind for his future, and he can fade into the sunset at Denver for all I care.

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Michael Nault's picture

November 28, 2021 at 11:30 pm

Still can’t stand him and cannot wait until he is gone. Good QB, but his holier than thou attitude and his I’m the smartest person around has worn thin. Bye.

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edp1959's picture

November 29, 2021 at 07:28 am

So you would rather have a Packers team like the 80's and competing with the Lions for the bottom of the NFC North just because the QB hurts your "widdle" feelings. Got it......

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jurp's picture

November 29, 2021 at 08:31 am

So you would rather we mortgage our future with an aging, massively overpaid QB with no real team around him than go with a younger and much cheaper QB who actually outplayed AR and BF in his first game (when compared to their first games, of course). He also outplayed Bart Starr, BTW.

Fear of the unknown is absolutely no way to go through life.

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Coldworld's picture

November 29, 2021 at 07:09 am

I don’t recall anyone seriously suggesting that Rodgers was not the best QB on our roster this year.

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jurp's picture

November 29, 2021 at 08:28 am

AR has proven himself to be a liar and a douche, and I will never again believe a word he says. He is, however, our QB for this year, so it is idiotic to go on and on about how douche-y he is because that has nothing to do with his game on the field. If he's committed to the team for this year, and I believe that he is, then that's all that counts.

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Doug_In_Sandpoint's picture

November 28, 2021 at 11:15 pm

Good: Rasul Douglas. I can’t believe he was picked off a practice squad. He seemed to brake up more passes than I’ve seen in recent history of Packer CBs. A stellar pick6 and almost another one was unreal.
Bad: Cobb’s muff and groin. Just can’t drop that punt, and I believe that was one of the few injuries today. Hope he heals up on the bye.
Ugly: Sullivan and Douglas letting their guys get behind them for long TDs. Eliminate those two plays and we see a Jordan Love 4Q and no unnecessary hits to AR12 late in the game.

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haevs6's picture

November 28, 2021 at 11:22 pm

Why would you blame Douglas when it was Cover 2 and Amos never got there to help???

You are not seeing what the defense was in, or suppose to do

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Coldworld's picture

November 28, 2021 at 11:48 pm

Douglas was primarily at fault. That happens with DBs. Same for Sullivan.

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Minniman's picture

November 29, 2021 at 03:57 am

It's funny. Douglas' combine 40' time was 4.59....... that's LB speed.

He certainly plays faster than a guy with 4.59 speed.

The trick with Douglas is don't try and make him a deep shut-down corner and you won't expose his speed weaknesses.

He's been playing quite effectively when he's had 2 high safety help over the top. With King's injury, the Packers didn't have that luxury this week.

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4thand1's picture

November 28, 2021 at 11:17 pm

Good- A Rod, do whatever is necessary to keep him.
Bad- All the drops. Lazad had 2, and Stokes WTF should have been an easy pick 6. Last week Savage.
Ugly- STs aaaaagggain.

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Ferrari-Driver's picture

November 29, 2021 at 12:04 am

Agree with you on Aaron Donald; sometimes he is not a nice man. Here is a clip:
https://t.co/Uc0DxI9vbV

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Ferrari-Driver's picture

November 29, 2021 at 08:01 am

accidental duplicate deleted.

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cpabandit's picture

November 29, 2021 at 05:52 am

The blind ref was right there! How does he not throw the flag!?

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Gee's picture

November 29, 2021 at 06:41 am

Because the Vulcan Death grip is legal in 23 states, including Wisconsin. Flag should have been thrown.

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Johnblood27's picture

November 29, 2021 at 07:13 am

That was some WWE shit right there, right along with the ref tapping the guy to make him break the illegal hold.

very comical actually, until you realize that this isnt WWE, the action is not supposed to be scripted, and the organization (NFL) is in bed-fully undressed-and rubbing vigorously, with Legalized gambling!!!

The NFL has to get the officiating cleaned up and FAST before this sort of "keep it close" officiating completely soils the leagues reputation as an above board athletic competition.

Right now, long time knowledgeable fans can see the blatant difference in the officiating and the manipulation of game outcomes. I can see this and I have pointed it out on a league-wide basis for a couple of years now. This MUST get fixed and FAST. I cannot stand the product the NFL is trotting out these days with the black and white striped "stooges" running around the field imposing league edicts on individual games simply to keep interest and attention up.

Full time officials under the auspices of a committee composed of league representatives AND NFLPA representatives AND Independent representatives needs to be put in place ASAP.

The rulebook needs to be completely re-written and unnecessary - redundant non-sense needs to be deleted. Modern era areas of controversy need to be addressed clearly and concisely in the rewritten book. Video Review needs to have a focus and not be an "eye in the sky" oversight of all action on the field with arbitrary options on what can be looked at.

I am not the most expert NFL rules guy ever, however I am confident if it were my job I could do it far better than the stooges (both on-field and off-field) currently running around doing Vince MacMahons - err, I mean Roger Goodells bidding.

That's all I have to say about that...

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jurp's picture

November 29, 2021 at 08:36 am

The Minn-Wisc game had truly terrible officiating, but it didn't seem to favor either team (for example, Wisc was gifted an invisible PI but then had an obvious Hold against them-a take-down from behind right in front of the ref-ignored).

If this kind of officiating is allowed in the college game, then it will soon trickle up into the NFL because these are the guys that the NFL eventually hires! Yikes!

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Starrbrite's picture

November 29, 2021 at 12:43 am

The Yosh fumble recovery was critical/outstanding!
Two disappointments: 1) our nerve-wracking special teams; 2) Lazard has to start making some contested catches.
What a supremely satisfying win—-now get healthy!

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imnion's picture

November 29, 2021 at 01:17 am

Good--I thought most of the offense played pretty well. Cept Lazard
Bad---C'mon Adam Lazard! You're better then that.
Ugly---The Aaron Donald choke hold was very ugly. No place for it.

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Wrongbayfeldlman's picture

November 29, 2021 at 01:21 am

Good. Big win, never die, next man up we don’t care how good you think you are, we’re going to punch you in the mouth.
I think my man crush on Barry may be getting serious.
Bad. Fans expecting all facets of the team to be perfect every time out. Give the Rams some credit, any good team will exploit your weaknesses.
Ugly. Aaron Donalds inability to control himself. Last year he was crying like a child this year he chokes a player like a toddler who got his toy taken away.

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Minniman's picture

November 29, 2021 at 04:21 am

Ugly - nearly getting their pants pulled down by Kupp's trick throw. It was only luck (and some half decent defense to drive the receiver near the in-goal sideline) that saved that play. Very deceptive of McVay. Kupp wasn't even a high school QB, but he landed a dime right on target.

Interesting - the Rams onside kick ploy..... kick the ball softly so that more than just your gunners can over-run the ball and (hopefully) distract the receivers before the ball gets close to the 10. I liked it! Next time single out a rookie to run it at (rather than an solid veteran in Amos) and it might just work.

Flooding the space with your defenders before the ball even gets there creates a lot of confusion. MLF should bank that one.

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jurp's picture

November 29, 2021 at 08:41 am

Amos did the smart thing and recovered the ball before it had gone 10 yards. Had he waited for it to roll the remaining two yards, then their guys would've been on top of it. Of course, a slow-rolling ball is much easier to recover than an end-over-end ball, so much less chance of a botched recovery.

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Minniman's picture

November 29, 2021 at 12:52 pm

Agree Jurp re the slow trickling ball being easier to field.

The trick is doing it when you are being spooked by 3-5 guys deliberately trying to put you off...... and a crowd roaring at the excitement.......... easy to get spooked.

Amos played that really well, didn't he! Having seen the Packers completely botch an on-side kick in years past, and fail to recover in the NFCCG last year, I'm always keen to see how successful teams pull them off.

.... The key seems to be to target a rookie and make them make a decision that they haven't had to make before.

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Houndog's picture

November 29, 2021 at 06:51 am

The Good: A win, and a win most non-Packer fans (and some of us) thought this beat-up team couldn't pull of. The Packers should absolutely get the Next Man Up award for the year, the list is too long to write. Kudos to the coaching staff for having them ready. LaFleur should be Coach of the Year.
The Bad: Once again, Special Teams, but its too late in the year to hire a real ST coach.
The Ugly: Aaron Donald, what a cry baby and sore loser when he's getting his ass kicked by second and third stringers like Yosh Nijman. And, after his choke-hold fiasco I guess you can add dirty player to the list. He's getting all the accolades all the time, but he's just a chump.

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egbertsouse's picture

November 29, 2021 at 08:05 am

Good: Dillon
Bad: Deep shots on 3rd and short. Dropped INTs.
Ugly: LaFleur flapping his arms trying to fire up the crowd. My god man, you’re an NFL head coach. Try to act like a professional and get your head in the game. Did you ever see Lombardi, Parcells, Noll, or Belichick flapping their arms like freakin’ Big Bird? If you want to be a cheerleader, maybe Dallas has an opening. Bad look.

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jurp's picture

November 29, 2021 at 08:43 am

Seriously? You're picking on La Fleur because he tried to get the crowd fired up? What, you couldn't find a puppy for you to kick this morning? SMH

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Pistolero's picture

November 30, 2021 at 01:42 pm

Um, in case you weren't of the obvious, crowd noise on defense IS a part of the game. A huge part. And LaFleur doesn't call defensive plays, that's the DC's job. So I'd say you're dead wrong that his head wasn't in the game and the "bad look" is entirely on you.

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rstain99's picture

November 29, 2021 at 08:12 am

Good, AR and AJ Dillon, Rashan Gary again making me eat my words. D line played well. Clark as always is a bear, Lowry very good. didn't see Lancaster or Slaton?
Bad, St again hold your breath every time. Amari Rodgers thought he was a returner no explosive plays from kickoffs at all.
Ugly, The refs were not very consistent and King pulling another no show so soft even OBJ played thru back pain.

9-3 hanging in there

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Brockrice99's picture

November 29, 2021 at 09:27 am

The "Beautiful" was when AJ Dillon absolutely trucked that guy as the 4th quarter was slowly winding away.

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