The Lass Word: Go Get Goff
Parsons may be the antidote for losing to Lions.
By KenLass

The arrival of Micah Parsons to the Green Bay Packers could not have come at a better time. The Packers lift the curtain on the 2025 season Sunday by hosting the Detroit Lions. For the past two years, the Lions have been the standard in the NFC North. They are the hurdle that must be overcome.
The Packers have lost five of the last six games to this team. In those five losses, Green Bay has a cumulative total of five sacks. The lone victory came on Thanksgiving Day of 2023. In that contest, Green Bay was able to sack quarterback Jared Goff three times, and pressure him relentlessly. There will be many keys to winning Sunday’s game, but certainly one of the most important will be getting to and disrupting Detroit’s poised and proven signal caller.
It can be done. Despite its reputation as being perhaps the best offensive line in football, the Detroit OL finished no better than middle of the pack last season in allowing quarterback sacks. Goff was taken down 31 times in seventeen games. That ranked sixteenth in the league. For perspective, consider Jordan Love was sacked just 14 times in fifteen games. Given time to throw, which Goff has received in those last five losses, he is deadly accurate, reads and anticipates defenses well, and has the arm to make all the throws.
What he doesn’t do, and doesn’t want to do, is run. He has the savvy to escape the pocket, but he is not quick nor fast, meaning he is not going to hurt you running downfield. He is not going to juke you and break tackles. If you get hands on him, he’s pretty well done. Last year Goff ran for a grand total of 56 yards on 35 carries, an anemic average of 1.6 yards per rush. And I would wager that very few, if any, of those rush attempts were called in the huddle.
In the Thanksgiving victory, all three sacks were by Rashan Gary, who also figures to be one of the top beneficiaries from the presence of Parsons. Opponents can’t double team everybody. Gary has never had double digit sacks in his six seasons in green and gold. His high was 9.5 in 2021. This should be his year, and the Lions should be his favorite victim. With offensive coordinators preoccupied with game planning to control Parsons, Gary should find himself one on one often.
Pressuring Goff and disrupting the Lions’ passing game is, of course, only part of the answer. The motor city gang can still come at you with their two-headed rushing punch of Jahmyr Gibbs and David Montogomery. Green Bay’s ability to stop the run may be a bit compromised with the loss of Kenny Clark. But I’m guessing Jeff Hafley will take his chances with that, if it means taking big play receivers Amon Ra St. Brown and Jamison Williams out of the game.
A THREE YEAR WINDOW
There is a narrative out there that the historic contract given to Micah Parsons has ruined any chance the Packers have of signing, and extending, other players. But a look at the actual numbers reveals such is not the case. At least not for the next three seasons. According to overthecap.com, Parsons’ deal is structured such that his cap hit this season is just $ 9.97 million. That ranks no higher than sixth on the roster. Jordan Love, Rashan Gary, Xavier McKinney, Elgton Jenkins, and Josh Jacobs all have higher cap numbers than Parsons this year. Overthecap lists Green Bay as still having $14.55 million in cap space, which puts them in the middle of the league, ranking seventeenth.
Thus, they still have the flexibility to add a few key players this season, or to extend looming free agents, such as Quay Walker, Devonte Wyatt, Romeo Doubs, Sean Rhyan and Rasheed Walker. All of those players will demand huge pay increases and Green Bay will only be able to afford a few of them. In the next two seasons Parsons’ cap number is still manageable at $19.2 million, and $26.8 million. Bear in mind the league cap will continue to expand. It won’t be until 2028 that Parsons’ cap hit explodes to $64.2, the same year Jordan Love’s hit reaches $75.7. Clearly, those contracts will either have to be extended that year, or the players cut.
The point is, the Parsons contract provides for an affordable three year window to compete for a championship. That window opens Sunday at Lambeau Field.
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Ken Lass is a former Green Bay television sports anchor and 43 year media veteran, a lifelong Packers fan, and a shareholder.
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Comments (107)
WD
September 05, 2025 at 06:16 am
If there is an Achilles heel for the Packers it is Love's tendency to get off to a slow start. To win this game against the division champions we must get off to a fast start. Also I suggest they double team against DE Hutchinson or it will be a long day for the Packer offense. He will be returning with a vengeance.
This is likely a preview of the NFC championship after watching the Eagles barely beat the Cowboys last night. Love has got to deliver ....early. There is no time left to remove the rust . May the football Gods be with us.
LambeauPlain
September 05, 2025 at 06:39 am
Expecting, hoping 12 personnel is effective early and often so Kraft and Musgrave can lend chip blocks on Hutchinson while on the way to a pass route or downfield blocks.
PackEyedOptimist
September 05, 2025 at 07:45 am
That's exactly what I would do and keep doing if it was working. 12 personnel all day, with a TE on each side and wherever Hutchinson goes he gets double-teamed.
I think he is the biggest threat to the Packers' chances in this game.
Defensively, I want Parsons replacing McDuffie, so he and Cooper can take turns blitzing while Gary and VanNess focus on 1. stopping outside runs by Jahmyr Gibbs, and 2. collapsing the pocket on Goff.
This also leaves Walker free to focus on RBs and shallow passes.
McKinney is going to have to cover deep, because the Lion WRs are no joke (and I'd be very concerned about a trick deep play to Teslaa). Our CBs ARE going to get beaten; hopefully it will be held to a minimal number of explosive plays.
That means Evan Williams is going to carry one of the biggest forgotten burdens in this game: LaPorta.
dobber
September 05, 2025 at 08:59 am
"That's exactly what I would do and keep doing if it was working. 12 personnel all day, "
I've been a huge proponent of 12 personnel in the Gronk/Hernandez vein with a power back, especially since Kraft and Musgrave came into the fold. It seems like they're finally getting both healthy and included to the point that it can work...but the question really is: what's your best set of playmakers, and does that include a second TE? 11 personnel is the coin of the realm in the NFL, and defenses have evolved to handle that speed...which is in part why we're seeing big OLs and power running return. Do the Packers benefit more from stretching the field with 11 groups and opening up the running lanes?
I'll say this: Golden is that speed guy who gives them that stretch now, and he's going to have to play a lot from the get-go, but I don't think DCs are going to go out of their way to double on him until the Packers show they're going to throw him the ball over the top. Look for a couple deep throws to 0 early on Sunday (think Watson v. the Vikings in 2022). I just hope he catches it.
"Defensively, I want Parsons replacing McDuffie, so he and Cooper can take turns blitzing while Gary and VanNess focus on 1."
In base looks, Parsons' athleticism allows this to happen...and it SHOULD happen. He can play off-ball and not be a liability. He's your SAM, but not really a SAM. When. you go to nickel personnel with two off-ball LBs, someone has to come off the field. Is that LVN? Is it Quay? Is it Brooks/Wooden and LVN kicks inside? I think there are a lot of permutations there, but Parsons will be at his best coming at the QB from a variety of places on the field.
Oppy
September 05, 2025 at 08:16 pm
If the packers field 12 personnel groupings, they have plenty of speed assuming Musgrave is part of the 2 and Golden and/or Watson are split.
If they can prove early this season that Jacobs can be a legit threat in the passing game, defenses will have to really roll the dice and decide if they want to line up a backer or an extra DB if the Packers run two tight end sets.
But then, I've been begging for 2 TE sets since the early McCarthy era. I've grown accustomed to not getting what I want
dobber
September 06, 2025 at 08:22 am
With Reed dealing with that Jones fracture, the big slot is certainly in play for Musgrave
LambeauPlain
September 05, 2025 at 09:06 am
Just listened to the coordinators Q&A from yesterday.
Stenovich was his usual low key "kinda want to" do this, and do that. Have to "keep getting better", so OL competition will continue. "Had a real competition at LT" yet Walker will start because "he had a good camp" spending a big chunk of it watching from the sidelines as Morgan had an even better camp. No real explanation how or why Walker is starting, but "have to figure out how to get Morgan on the field." Ok, then. More continuous substitution in games on the OL until he figures out the best 5, I guess. I don't understand musical chairs on the OL...I am just a fan.
He did seem to say more 12 personnel is coming: "kinda want to get both TEs on the field".
Parsons was asked if he liked rushing as a DE or playing LB. He said DE fits his attitude to just "GO"...plus it is a big moment to get a sack. He also said he enjoys LB as being more fun...reading and diagnosing plays...seeing the play unfold with more vision then go and make a play. You may get your wish as soon as Parsons is a full go and see him stay on the field most of the D plays. Vision and break as a LB is a good fit for the young man too.
dobber
September 05, 2025 at 09:15 am
I think Parsons will play mostly from a stand-up/off-ball position on Sunday to allow him to not have to run into OTs all game. This will allow him to attack and test the new IOL of the Lions...they need to pressure Goff up the gut, and this points that way.
RobinsonDavis
September 05, 2025 at 10:43 am
Occasionally, yes! SAM, yes! Edge with hand in the ground, yes! Use Micah's attribute's to best serve the team. I just question how much he is ready for, and if we are getting ahead of ourselves for this particular game. Excited to watch this Team!!
Coldworld
September 05, 2025 at 09:29 am
Perhaps someone told him to stop. That messing around with the OL in season when the issue isn’t finding someone capable is daft, even more so at the premium position, when it’s beyond daft. Lines need cohesion regardless of how good the individuals are. QBs need to trust their blindside and anticipate it.
As to Morgan. Take the proven over the possible. It would not shock me if Morgan is starting elsewhere on Sunday anyway, but he’s going to play a lot this year. Whoever goes down he’s the next man up (if it’s Jenkins via a swap to RG), unless they have still avoided giving him time at RT to the point where they balk at throwing him in.
Snap the ball
September 05, 2025 at 09:48 am
Walker better than Morgan at that spot.
But Morgan is better than Banks
We paid lots of money for banks. That’s why he playing
Leatherhead
September 05, 2025 at 03:55 pm
We have two games in 5 days, and we will need all the healthy linemen we can get. This stuff about who we’re playing will work itself out
Coldworld
September 05, 2025 at 09:20 am
I wish we had a really good blocking TE or an OL who would use a 6th OL as one. I don’t want Kraft or Musgrave chipping. I want them running receiving patterns because it’s a waste of Kraft and Musgrave is really a guy who needs to get up field. One plus a true blocker (Belton being an obvious candidate) … and let that player lead block as a wrinkle too.
Snap the ball
September 05, 2025 at 09:43 am
We do.
Morgan if he not playing
Walker Banks Jenkins. Rhyan Tom. Morgan
That’s 6
Coldworld
September 05, 2025 at 11:29 am
As a 6th OL “TE” designated receiver? I don’t recall Stenavich or even LaFleur using one. Lewis probably made that redundant of course when he was here, though he didn’t lead block. La Fleur had otherwise used “FBacks” such as Deguara rather unsuccessfully in line or leading.
Snap the ball
September 05, 2025 at 09:49 am
We do Patrick other tight end.
LambeauPlain
September 05, 2025 at 02:25 pm
The old U 71 with Kevin Barry & Ahman Green! The U 71 always meant run and it didn't matter. It moved the chains. It worked because it was used for short yardage plays but so well practiced it compared to the Packer Sweep. "Here it comes, try and stop us".
Tauscher at 320 lbs + Barry 335 was a load on the right side...Green almost always gained the needed yards. When defenses responded by loading up the right, Green was adept cutting to his left behind blocks of Rivera and Flannigan and 250 lb William Henderson and to get the yards up the middle. Even better than the Tush Push.
Belton and Kevin Barry could look each other in the eye and match each other on the weight scale.
Snap the ball
September 05, 2025 at 09:53 am
Walker and tom can take care of him one on one
BuckyBadger
September 05, 2025 at 07:41 am
I don't buy this slow start narrative that keeps being thrown out there. Love's 1st year you would expect some growing pains and last year he had a significant knee injury. I wouldn't start calling that a trend of any kind just yet.
Coldworld
September 05, 2025 at 09:23 am
It’s not Love who starts slow but LaFleur’s calling oftentimes.
murf7777
September 05, 2025 at 11:07 am
It's easy to second guess playcalling when they don't work. Many times it execution and not the play that's called. Mlf is highly regarded as a play caller.
Coldworld
September 05, 2025 at 11:38 am
As a play designer perhaps, as a caller less so. This is the guy whipped by each of his 3 divisional opponents on 5/6 occasions last year.
The one I do absolve him of is not the one we won against Chicago, but the first Lions game where the offensive execution killed us through errors not calls. However, he’s a head coach and the preparation there asked equally big questions. As Packers.com put it:
“Name a miscue, the Packers made it.
Penalties, dropped passes, a missed field goal, a botched handoff, off-target snaps and throws, … the list goes on. No phase was immune to a damaging error, which Head Coach Matt LaFleur accurately referenced as "self-inflicted wounds" after the game.”
So yes, execution comes into it, but that doesn’t mitigate the calling. Indeed, both exaggerate each other.
Leatherhead
September 05, 2025 at 12:34 pm
Agree. When I was young, an old timer told me that most plays will work if they are executed correctly. I've found that to be true.
This narrative that we can score points, win games and make the playoffs despite having a weak playcaller and HC....and a bad OL coach.....and several players who aren't good enough.
We've made the playoffs 5 out of 6 seasons. We've changed QBs and all the other players over that time. What's the constant? The constant is LaFleuer/Gutekunst. Somehow, in some mysterious way, we win games despite their ineptitude. I'd love it if somebody could explain that to me in a way that makes any sense.
RobinsonDavis
September 05, 2025 at 10:52 am
Until the Packer offense can prove, CONSISTENTLY, that they can fast start and maintain control of the game through the duration, this moniker will stick. It's not just one guy, like Love, but there has been a myriad of issues in the past that are team-oriented, including, IMO a lack of cohesion due to real play time prior to the season. Let's hope the team is focused from the start. GO PACK!
SicSemperTyrannis
September 05, 2025 at 01:46 pm
Is the dreaded slow start (both to individual games and whole seasons) really on JL10? There are so many other factors I really can't tell. Could be O line, WRs, coaches / overall team preparedness, and maybe other factors.
Either way the team just can't afford that this season. I disagree strongly with those saying this game "isn't a must win;" if everyone is determined that EVERY game is a must win, that's a bare essential for this team.
GPG!
NFLfan
September 05, 2025 at 06:43 am
Once again, football continues to excite in its unpredictability. Who would have thought Jalen Carter would be ejected and Prescott and co. would look so accomplished against the Eagles? (he was freed up-lol).
Barkley has so much finesse and is thrilling to watch, so is Hurts. Hurts is an accomplished running back.
mrtundra
September 05, 2025 at 08:10 am
Carter getting booted, was the reason this game was so close. I hope his coaches wreak havoc, on his attitude, for skewering his teammates like that.
NFLfan
September 05, 2025 at 08:51 am
Speaking of character issues-I remember him falling in the Draft after he was cited for racing @ speeds over 100 MPH which resulted in a crash, subsequent death in the other car and ole' Jalen did not assist but fled the scene. NFL doesn't care about character. I heard the Vikings have the highest arrest numbers.
dobber
September 05, 2025 at 09:12 am
Thank you for revising and restating this.
Your previous wording cast you in a pretty poor light.
murf7777
September 05, 2025 at 09:10 am
That may be true, but it's also debateable. Dallas defense is going to struggle, but they have a very good offense and they might've scored the same amount whether Carters there or not. Also, if butterfingers catches the ball more I think Dallas wins.
Coldworld
September 05, 2025 at 11:51 am
Lamb definitely cost them that particular game.
Leatherhead
September 05, 2025 at 03:51 pm
Dropped passes are big plays. Not as big as a turnover, but certainly as bad as a sack. They really kill possessions and keep points off the board. 20 points is not enough , but 30 usually is. Or 27 and hope for the best. But 20 isn’t enough.
Snap the ball
September 05, 2025 at 09:50 am
You must be an eagles fan Who cares he’s a dirty player from college on
barutanseijin
September 05, 2025 at 10:54 am
I hope he continues to be a dumbass and hurts their chances to win. The Eagles chose to have him on their team. They deserve whatever they get.
Coldworld
September 05, 2025 at 11:54 am
Yes. If you roll a dice on personality then you should be prepared for, and evaluated on, all that comes with it. Typically the Browns come to mind first, but other teams including the Eagles, Vikings and Dallas have all had their moments.
SicSemperTyrannis
September 05, 2025 at 01:48 pm
Keel haul him!
Turophile
September 06, 2025 at 04:13 am
@MrTundra.
The camera recorded that Dak spat at him first, then grinned at him, which is a pretty severe provocation (yes, the referees missed that).
I never liked Dak, and now I have even more reason to dislike him, spitting is such a classless action. That doesn't excuse Jalen, but it does add some mitigation to his action.
Snap the ball
September 05, 2025 at 09:55 am
Well Carter dirty player for years. Not surprised
Hurts is avg qb. Because his line holds all day to pass the ball
You get pressure on him his average at best throwing the ball
The nfl has to give him hype So all the fans go. Wow. He’s so good. He’s average
EricTorkelson
September 05, 2025 at 06:48 am
Speaking of last night WD... from what I saw of the game K Clark was dominating for the cowboys in the middle he was the inside presence that M Parsons never had, unfortunately now Parsons is in GB and there is no inside presence here.
egbertsouse
September 05, 2025 at 07:06 am
I only watched most of the first half and Clark wasn’t doing squat except letting Hurts and Barkley run for big chunks.
EricTorkelson
September 05, 2025 at 09:04 am
I was referring to when Clark was in the game he was only in periodically in the fist half but did have 1/2 sack, stuffed the middle and was double teamed almost every off play by the Eagles when he was playing.
LambeauPlain
September 05, 2025 at 09:11 am
Kenny had a few decent plays but the cowboys D was gashed in the run game in the first half...his supporting cast leaves much to be desired. Kenny was also off the field alot. He was far from dominating. Played ok.
EricTorkelson
September 06, 2025 at 07:16 am
When Clark on the field Cowboys gave up 2.8 yards per carry 6.6 when he wasn't....
murf7777
September 05, 2025 at 09:18 am
We will miss him forsure! Last year, he played thru an injury for the majority of the year, I think he is a far better player than he showed. What we lack in the DL should be made up with probably one the best group of linebackers.
That said, I'm still concerned about losing Clark and Slaton and not having more experienced run defenders there. I do like Wyatt's push up the middle, but he lacks being a dominate run defender. Hopefull he can step up his run defense. Fingers crossed that a couple of others really step up and stop the run. If not, It could end up being the tale of the defense.
Leatherhead
September 05, 2025 at 11:52 am
The Packers had the #3 rushing defense in yards/rush average, which was a huge leap from the previous season, and now we've said goodbye to two of the DTs that made it possible. It's a tremendous endorsement of Wyatt and Brooks, and Wooden and Brinson. The Packers are betting they can do a satisfactory job against the run while maximizing pressure against the pass.
A reckless bet? The Packers organization isn't know for reckless bets, at least since Wolf. This Packers defense is unabashedly a defense against the pass, and they want to be able to win as many passing downs as possible.
In a game where your opponent threw 36 passes, they're probably completing 24 of them, and every completion costs you 10 yards. Most TDs come through the air. So they won 24 plays, the defense won 12. I think that if you can tip that balance even a little, to maybe a 21/15 ratio, and then include a turnover or two........
So that's where the defensive emphasis is this year, IMO, based on what I've seen and read so far. Not stuffing the run, but trying to win more passing downs. More pressure and more takeaways.
murf7777
September 05, 2025 at 01:32 pm
I agree and good analysis.
SicSemperTyrannis
September 05, 2025 at 01:56 pm
I think our defensive pressure will tell the tale of this game ...
dobber
September 06, 2025 at 08:25 am
"A reckless bet? The Packers organization isn't know for reckless bets"
Which is why this deal surprised so many...and why so many pundits in retrospect are looking at this as a deal that was almost too good to pass up.
SicSemperTyrannis
September 05, 2025 at 01:53 pm
We have no idea what our interior D line is. While many are saying our CB is the only weakness on this roster I put that even with our DTs until proven otherwise.
Hafley has a real opportunity to work his magic ...
Guam
September 05, 2025 at 03:06 pm
Maybe Covington as much as Hafley.
Snap the ball
September 05, 2025 at 09:44 am
D Wyatt is ready. Plus he’s quicker
murf7777
September 05, 2025 at 11:09 am
I really like his potential, but his run defending grade is below average, he needs to get better in that area.
Coldworld
September 05, 2025 at 11:50 am
He’s a 305 pound penetration first 3T not an NT. He’s there to disrupt or he’s not there at all. Yes, his run play needs to improve but it’s not what is, has ever been, or will get a second contract for. There needs to be some realism in some quarters about what it’s plausible for players to do. Aaron Donald was a unicorn not a template for expectations.
murf7777
September 05, 2025 at 01:34 pm
I agree, but he stills needs to improve his run defense. He has the ability, Just need the right attitude.
Snap the ball
September 05, 2025 at 09:52 am
Kenny played ok. Wasn’t in football game shape yet. Looked slower last night l
NickPerry
September 05, 2025 at 07:38 am
Jordan Love needs to start fast and the Packers O-Line and D-Line needs to punch the Lions in the face first, the hardest, and for four quarters. Gute has been adding very LARGE men to the O-Line the last few seasons. IIRC correctly they all are around 6'5" or better and weigh around 322 pounds with the exception of Tom who just kicks ass no matter his size.
No slow starts Sunday. No looking like they aren't ready to play. Just DO IT!!
GO PACK GO!!!
PackEyedOptimist
September 05, 2025 at 07:58 am
I really, really hope the "Banks and Jenkins" set up shows dividends immediately.
LambeauPlain
September 05, 2025 at 09:17 am
Butkus and Steno better show ROI for the investments in the OL...LaFleur better expect it too.
Snap the ball
September 05, 2025 at 09:56 am
AMEN
dobber
September 05, 2025 at 09:08 am
AGNFB for 60 minutes.
This can be a statement game.
Make a statement.
Leatherhead
September 05, 2025 at 11:57 am
Yes, Mr. Perry!! We can just run over these guys. There's no need to be tricky. The Illusion of Complexity is enough. Given the ball to Jacobs/Wilson and let those big eaters up front push people out of the way. Throw a play action every now and then to keep them honest.
Make Detroit prove they can stop that before you give them an opportunity to stop something else.
BuckyBadger
September 05, 2025 at 07:47 am
MLF is 15-3 against the spread the 1st 3 games of the season in his including 7-0 at home. He has been the best coach in that time. 10-8 straight up but I bring up the spread because this shows how often he is out performing the odds.
Coldworld
September 05, 2025 at 09:33 am
Sure.
SicSemperTyrannis
September 05, 2025 at 02:00 pm
Interesting stat :)
mrtundra
September 05, 2025 at 08:15 am
Now, that we see that the refs are enforcing "character issues" --i.e. taunting, spitting on players, etc., in the game, I wonder how many flags the Packers will get for that kind of infraction? If past seasons are any indicator, I'd say the Packers will have enough flags thrown at them, to make a quilt.
Snap the ball
September 05, 2025 at 09:45 am
Not even close. Packers team is not like that
Eagles dirty team. Dirty owner. Dirty head coach
They don’t tackle they go for shoulders
Bitternotsour
September 05, 2025 at 04:55 pm
how is Jeffry Lurie dirty? What on earth are you talking about? Great GM, a better owner than most. Lurie funded a documentary a friend of mine produced and he and his wife were reportedly total gems to work with.
WD
September 05, 2025 at 09:56 am
I agree. Officiating, for better or for worse,will be a key factor.
SicSemperTyrannis
September 05, 2025 at 02:06 pm
Spitting in Dak's face outta be penalized pretty heavily, IMHO. The first "taunting" call I saw was totally bogus, IMHO. It basically says they don't want guys to play.
dobber
September 06, 2025 at 08:27 am
I think it actually says they want these guys to JUST play...
NFLfan
September 05, 2025 at 08:29 am
In response to the article, I don't think Parsons will play many snaps. Doesn't excuse the rest of the D-Line from pressuring Goff.
dobber
September 05, 2025 at 09:09 am
I'm guessing 20-ish, depending on game flow.
murf7777
September 05, 2025 at 09:21 am
I'm going to be a bit more optimistic and think the back issue is a non-issue and say 30+. If the back is an issue, that's a different story, but after watching practice clips of him moving the sleds around I hardly think he's hurting.
dobber
September 05, 2025 at 09:47 am
I'm actually not concerned with the back. I think it's more a matter of only one week in pads.
LambeauPlain
September 05, 2025 at 09:30 am
Parson's stated in his presser yesterday he knows about 80% of the playbook now. He says he keeps telling the coaches "give me more to do". But he understands "that is up to what the coaches want to do". Micah seems very intelligent, motivated, and confident.
He also said he was very surprised with the close knit, focused locker room culture...he said "really, the best I have been around". Parsons said he came in for PT on Tuesday and every one on the team was in the locker room during down time.
Hafley said he knew Parsons was smart...but he was very surprised as "just how high a football IQ he has." He said Parsons listens and immediately repeats the play, concept and his responsibility. "He really gets it!", said a beaming Haf.
Coldworld
September 05, 2025 at 09:48 am
There is also the question of how healthy he is. That none of us here know, but we do play again mid week which may be a factor for him and some others.
Parsons aside, I want to see Van Ness show up, and if not see others given chances. The time is past for waiting. What we need to see is others creating disruption. All of Van Ness, Enagbare and Cox need a fair chance to show where that is most likely to come from over the next 7 days. Performance over hope or draft pedigree.
Gary and Parsons then whom needs to be decided on in-game merit and early on so it boosts us through the season by having the best options out there more often. I’m hoping we see some Hopper alongside Cooper and Walker as well.
LambeauPlain
September 05, 2025 at 11:09 am
Yeah, good point. The Thursday game is a big consideration for Sunday snaps for Parsons. I was encouraged when Parsons stated his back was feeling good after he tweeted the it while lifting early in Cowboys camp. So it has been healing for awhile with PT and a few cortisone injections...to promote healing.
He said he brought the "cortisone pack" (treatment plan) from Dallas and the Packers medical/training team continued it. As Parsons stated: "Its a joint (L5/L6) pull so the cortisone helps it heal along with the physical therapy."
Coldworld
September 05, 2025 at 12:00 pm
Helps the swelling, reducing pressure and pain and facilitating healing. Playing football probably undoes the last part though. That’s the issue. Healing it or playing through it may be an either/or choice. The same for Reed.
HawkPacker
September 05, 2025 at 09:56 am
Can't wait to see the game Sunday.
Hope is as good as I anticipate.
SicSemperTyrannis
September 05, 2025 at 02:09 pm
That's a number I like, too. Just don't overdo it, whatever that number winds up being
Snap the ball
September 05, 2025 at 09:46 am
Doesn’t need to will get pressure from LVN. Cox. Gary
Copper o
SicSemperTyrannis
September 05, 2025 at 02:08 pm
While I agree, how many plays do we really need Parsons to make? If he can win the pass rush immediately per his usual, Detroit will effectively be without a QB for the rest of the game ...
Leatherhead
September 05, 2025 at 09:52 am
I watched the losses to the Lions last year quite a few times this past summer, and I took particular note of whether or not we got pressure on Goff. Usually, we didn't, because the ball was out of Goff's hands before any pass rush had a legitimate chance to get him. I don't think Parsons really changes that equation.
If we want to get to Goff, we're going to have to cover receivers long enough to give the pass rush a chance. We didn't do that last year. LaPorta, St. Brown, and the others were repeatedly open on short routes and Goff threw it to them before anybody could get to him.
PackEyedOptimist
September 05, 2025 at 10:13 am
Yep.
We play a lot of zone, and are generally good at it with McKinney and Williams, but Detroit has top-notch zone-breakers in St Brown and LaPorta and Gibbs, and Williams and TeSlaa are way too dangerous to ignore on deep patterns.
Detroit has won a lot of games for a good reason.
Leatherhead
September 05, 2025 at 11:10 am
They score a lot of points. Sometimes they run up the score, but they were still really good on offense. I don't really have a good answer for how to defend Detroit other than don't get them any help by committing penalties or missing tackles,or giving them a short field. Make them earn the yards and points.
The Packers should have the mentality that they need to score 30 points to win this. Even with our new superduper defense, we're going to need to score 30 in the home opener. 20 is not going to get it done, just ask Dallas.
Lean on our main dogs: Jacobs and Wilson. Throw it to Kraft and Doubs. They're healthy, they're veterans, and I trust them more than I'd trust Wicks or an injured Reed.
RobinsonDavis
September 05, 2025 at 11:22 am
I think everybody is correct. We need a total team game. When passing, Detroit has thrown the quick hitter/timing passes against us, generally with Goff not holding the ball long. We need to match with quick pressure, especially up the middle, and be tighter in coverage.
But the real issue has not been the D, but the sluggish O. Give Detroit credit, too! However, we have not been focused mentally, for whatever reason, early in games and I believe Love's injuries have contributed to his inaccuracies in the past. Still, it will be how the O brushes off adversity after a bad penalty, missed blocking assignment, inaccurate throw, wrong pattern, or, dare I say it, another dropped pass that will demonstrate their fortitude. I will take a heavy dose of Jacobs and company, too, which we can do more of, if we command a lead.
Coldworld
September 05, 2025 at 10:43 am
We lost the first game primarily because we couldn’t score or really threaten their then dubious secondary due to our offense shooting itself in the foot. We lost the second game in a walk off field goal after a pathetic offensive first half where we completed 3 of 7 passing attempts for 31 yards. In both games the passing O failed except on the second half of the second game. The calling in the first half of that game was risible. LaFleur got whipped tactically in both games.
We managed 3 points in the first half in November. As the team website put it “Penalties, dropped passes, a missed field goal, a botched handoff, off-target snaps and throws, … the list goes on. No phase was immune to a damaging error, which Head Coach Matt LaFleur accurately referenced as "self-inflicted wounds" after the game.” Our D held them to 7 till just before half time despite that, before a Love brain fart pick 6 interception trying to make something happen. The D was not gouged in any way that day.
On D on December, the problem was screens definitely . We were exposed over and over again. That short/intermediate field area was a problem all year. Unfortunately that’s where McDuffie was a liability and we never really had Walker and Cooper healthy together. One hopes that this time their presence together changes things and Hopper is used at times too. Pressure up the middle, non existent really then, would help as as well. That and LaFleur not having a disastrous scripted plan.
Leatherhead
September 05, 2025 at 11:39 am
You were doing pretty well until the last paragraph.
I don't think McDuffie was a liability. PFF might, but I don't and the Packers obviously don't either because they re-signed him for two years. I think it's unwise to draw any conclusions from our games last December because that would include big point games from Detroit and Minnesota, a shutout of New Orleans, and holding Seattle, at home, to 13 points, and 24 in a meaningless game against Chicago. I think you can safely say that Detroit , Minnesota, and Philadelphia were better than us last year. By how much, and how much that'll change this year, are open questions.
This "disastrous scripted plan" stuff....where does this come from? Is he scripting the dropped passes? The holding penalties? Or does he have a Plan B that he goes to then? I, personally, think LaFleur is a really good offensive coach, much better than I was. I would point to last season as an example.
During our loss to the Lions at home, Love threw as bad of an interception as I've even seen a Packer QB throw, at it resulted in a Detroit TD in a game. In all, Love threw 10 interceptions in the first half of the season.
But after that pick, he only threw one the rest of the way. Was that an accident? Or did LaFleur make some decisions about the offense and Love? What do you think is more likely?
You underrate MLF. He's a better coach than you give him credit for.
LambeauPlain
September 05, 2025 at 11:48 am
"...LaFleur is a really good offensive coach, much better than I was."
Better than you? Wow. That's encouraging and very humble.
Leatherhead
September 05, 2025 at 12:03 pm
It's hard to tell. There are so many guys here who seem to believe they're better than Lafleur.
It's much harder coaching a football team than a lot of people seem to believe. There's a lot of moving parts, whether it's Middle School or Varsity. It definitely is easier to sit on the sofa and and take shots at the guy who's doing the job.
barutanseijin
September 05, 2025 at 02:46 pm
You miss the point. Some of our blowhards here rate Lafleur poorly. Apparently they know what to do and Lafleur doesn’t. Very humble of them.
Coldworld
September 05, 2025 at 12:52 pm
McDuffie has his good points, but to say he is adequate in pass coverage generally and wasn’t a liability in that particular game is very difficult to credit. To indirectly imply we would not have been better with Cooper and out there in coverage is equally dubious.
If I recall correctly, LaFleur did change his approach after that, and we looked like a different team—which is why the screen failings on D were indeed significant as you suggested. Half a game is better than none, but it’s not good enough, especially when it’s more the norm than exception.
Leatherhead
September 05, 2025 at 03:20 pm
What is "adequate" in pass coverage?
We live in a league where QBs complete 67% of their passes. Passes to RBs and TEs....the guys Mcduffie is covering.....are even higher?
In pass coverage, QBs completed 84% against him. That's pretty high For 8.6 yards per completion. Not so high. Overall, an average game, he gets targeted 3 times a game and gives up maybe 25 yards in completions. He also gets in on more tackles than anyone not named Quay Walker.
And of course, he was doing this on one of the league's best defenses. So I'll directly imply that he's a pretty solid player for us, and doesn't deserve your continued denigration.
LambeauPlain
September 05, 2025 at 11:25 am
I believe Parsons changes this a lot. He is one of the fastest pass rushers (4.39 speed) in the NFL in time to the QB...I could be wrong but I think his average time to a sack, pressure or hurry averages 2.5 seconds. Watch his tape. Wow he's quick and slippery, pass rush moves galore.
Even more, in his presser, when asked about the DBs behind him he was glowing. He said they will be depending on each other to make the play. He said he's expecting the DBs will lock down cover on the primary and force the QB to seek the secondary and give him a second more to disrupt the QB...and there are going to be times when he will help them with rapid pressure at the snap.
Coldworld
September 05, 2025 at 01:03 pm
One of my unfortunate memories of last year is Gary or one of the other rushers getting into the backfield immediately but being unable to turn and make a play fast enough. We could penetrate but we visibly lacked bend and swerve. There was no one to flush the QB out. Parsons has both in swathes. As does Oliver on paper. It seems to me that the Packers front office shared the same bad memories.
SicSemperTyrannis
September 05, 2025 at 02:18 pm
I hope Parsons coaches up the rest of the room with a pass rush plan and moves! If he can succeed at that he's well worth the trade even if he's limited for a while.
davekenya
September 05, 2025 at 10:31 am
I like mjs Silverstone suggestion of gbs defense show a modified 5 man front on d at times as I think the key will be gbs ability to contain the run..which Detroit will test early and often. Gb has speedy lbs that can drop out into coverage or blitz...which can make it harder for Detroit to run their offense. Gb will need to have safeties up in coverage helping the newer cbs more than usual..which is risky but necessary. Much has been made that Detroit will be adjusting with 2 new coordinators but both have been in Detroits system and there will be more continuity than many are predicting early on in the season Detroit is tough. Trite, but turnovers could be the simple thing that determines the outcome.
murf7777
September 05, 2025 at 11:15 am
Jared Goff is most troubled by interior pressure, delayed pass rushers and a very quick rush(Micah Parsons). He is excellent when operating from a clean pocket, but his performance suffers significantly once his mechanics are disrupted and his feet are forced to move. I see GB getting 4 sacks in this game.
RobinsonDavis
September 05, 2025 at 11:27 am
So, true, Murf!
LambeauPlain
September 05, 2025 at 11:32 am
Correct, Murph. Goff is very good when clean and panics when it looks like he's about to get dirty.
Pressure on him brings the sacks...and even without the sack with pressure he is then prone to terrible decisions and the INTs come...often multiple INTs in the game if the D can get to him early.
4 sacks and 2+ INTs can work.
Coldworld
September 05, 2025 at 01:09 pm
The secret to Goff is someone coming straight at him from the front. As you suggest, that’s when he makes bad decisions even if he’s not actually hit. He tends to get hit a lot because he’s not mobile, but the damage is often done by causing hesitation/blocking his dump offs as much as taking him down or avoiding the big completion. Once he’s moving he’s an easy target for outside players to mop up.
Bitternotsour
September 05, 2025 at 05:02 pm
It's so unusual that a QB would be susceptible to immediate pressure up the middle, you'd think teams in the league would consider trying that.
Coldworld
September 05, 2025 at 05:19 pm
Easier said than done … at least after Goff moved to the Lions. That has been a very good IOL. Of course they got him in part because previously, that’s exactly what teams were doing. We saw the same with the Vikings and Darnold last year, until a team managed it and, when they did, the veneer of change tore off immediately. Unfortunately, we weren’t able to be the team to do that against either team.
LambeauPlain
September 05, 2025 at 11:42 am
Question to LaFleur about Parsons playing on Sunday: Coyly replied, "We are going to have to see."
Question to Hafley how he will deploy Parsons on Sunday: Grinning like the Cheshire Cat: "I'm not going to tell you that!"
Barring a setback before Sunday at 3:25 PM, Parsons will be playing. I will be at the game Sunday and our seats are on the SW side around the 15 yard line where the Tunnel is directly across from me. I hope the D is introduced Sunday so I can see #1 running at me, as the deafening decibels from the crowd roar.
SicSemperTyrannis
September 05, 2025 at 02:22 pm
Sweet :)
I can envision introducing #0 first, and #1 last ...
Bearmeat
September 05, 2025 at 12:20 pm
Enough talk. We know the path to beat the Lions: IOL pressure = Goff turnovers. Keep the run from killing us. Block Hutch and avoid self inflicted wounds on offense and you’re in the clear.
It’s hard to do. They’re good. But they are ripe for picking off.
barutanseijin
September 07, 2025 at 07:35 pm
Got ‘em!