"The way he played the final ten games of the 2023 season gives realistic hope the Packers can be a legitimate Super Bowl contender in the immediate future. But wow. That’s Aaron Rodgers-type money for a player who has started just twenty games."

THIS is where I just really struggle with this. Love has started just 20 games, was good in 10 of them, and now they find themselves in a situation of $50 million in May or MORE if they wait even 10 games. Call me old fashioned, call be a big ole dud. But Loves pending contract scares the shit out of me. I get it, Jordan Love was freaking awesome last season, and he did it with the youngest skill position group or WRs and TEs in the SB era. BUT it was for 10 games...TEN!

The BIGGEST saving grace of this is the fact ALL of his WRs and TEs will be on rookie deals for at least two more years (Watson & Doubs) and everybody else for 3 years. The Packers CAN afford to pay Love $50 or $52 million a year and it will look like a DEAL in 2 years... Hopefully!!

Even though Love still scares me IMO the Packers almost have to give him the bag of cash. Lets just see we see the Jordan Love from around November and December last year and NOT the Love we saw at the start of the season.

If the "benchmark" for Love is around $50 M/season, and he touches the ball a 1,000 plays/17 game season, he will make $50,000 per touch. That includes passes thrown, runs and handoffs.

Not too bad for a 3 year backup called a draft reach, that many predicted would not be an effective starter, and certainly not the next potential elite QB in Green Bay.

I have been a fan of Jordan and happy to see him succeed. In the NFL, if you do succeed you can earn "crazy money".

The challenge for these young men is not to let the crazy money make them, well "crazy" worshiping it.

So far, Jordan seems to be guided by his solid character...has well ordered personal priorities. This should serve him well.

Very soon, money should not be a "need" in his life or for his family. Hope it stays that way.

Have to pay, so the sooner the better.

It will tell me more about where we stand in the long run, if he takes a team friendly deal or not. If he does, it will show his confidence in himself and help keep the players around him. He can still easily make the 50 + yearly with non-cap burdening incentives if he believes in the team and his teammates. He doesn't have to do that, but I think he will for the most part because I think he's very unselfish.

You also could look at it and say he made NFL money for 3 years just to learn and sit and owes it all to a team that thinks ahead.

The next one will be the scary one with all the guaranties.

Gute doesn't know how to save money.
And he Sure doesn't know how to honor contracts.
So if you were Looking as Love as an investment. Don't!
The Word Lass used is IF. It wasn't used with Rodgers.
And the pay scale for a MVP, justified the spending.
"IF" - Means We're about to pay a gamble.
On a guy that everyone got wrong when drafted?

IMO- were fighting the odds that this will turn
into good deal. And it shouldn't be made.
I'd trade him. Especially since the Packers want
to draft QBs again.

Draft and Develop.

At all positions... including QB.

All that "need a franchise QB" BS is just that... BS.

Where did paying AR get GB? Certainly NOT to the SB!

The league rules have made QB the most important - by far - player on the field. That doesn't mean that having a guy you really like and that performs near league best means that your TEAM gets to the ultimate prize. History shows that beyond Mahommes and Brady that just isn't so and even with those guys a TEAM is needed to stand smiling after the last game of the league season.

I will never stop being a TEAM guy. I unabashedly root for the laundry - not individual faces - while I appreciate everything individual players do to help my favorite franchise, they will come and go while I remain steadfast in my support of the G&G. I have outlasted each and every one of my 'heroes' so far, and I will right up until they throw dirt on me. I have survived each and every departure.

So... Draft 'em and then coach 'em up. The NFL is a league of replacement whose acronym stands for "Not For Long", even at the games most (but not only) important position. If CHAMPIONSHIPS are the goal, management of the TEAM in this salary cap era is what leads to ultimate victory, not hero worship with adoration equaling MONEY$$$$$.

There is a 'market' for player services, I get that. GB is subject to that market, I get that too. I am looking bigger picture and saying that bar pushing contracts guarantee NOTHING and that 'market' deals can leave enough to build around talent that deserves market money.

I really like Jordan Love, I like him on my favorite team. I do NOT think he deserves top 5 QB money. I have always subscribed to the tenet that you have to DO the job before you can GET the job. Outwork and outperform your competition to get ahead. Jordan Love has been good, pay him good. Once he becomes GREAT then-and only then- should GB pay him great.

or... draft and develop his replacement, just like what happens at each and every other position in the Not For Long NFL.

There's no comparison to giving a big contract to a young, ascending player like Jordan Love and an old player like Aaron Rodgers who was due to decline at any time--and who did in fact decline. Plus there was a lot of concerning behavior from Rodgers before they gave him that last contract. There's been nothing like that with Love.

How many QBs would we rather have than Jordan Love? Patrick Mahomes for sure. Then there are a few others who are about as good as Love: Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts. But I don't think I'd take any of those guys over Love. Not Justin Herbert either.

The small sample size (only 20 games) is a byproduct of Love not starting until year four. It would be nice if he had played more games before he needed a new contract, but that's just not the way it played out. And he is clearly a keeper.

You have to have a good QB to be competitive in this league. You have to have a top 10 QB to compete routinely for championships. If you get the luxury of having a top 10 QB, there should be no complaint about having to pay them. It is hard finding those guys and when you do, you have to lock them up long term.
The hard part is when you have a 10-20 ranked QB and have to pay them like they are a top 10. Thinking about guys like Russell Wilson and Daniel Jones.

Love has proved already that he is at least a top 15 QB. Based on his play as the season progressed he is a top 10 QB and needs to paid as such.

ARod had a much SMALLER sample size than Love when he received his first extension after Favre left. So why is it an issue for Love? My guess is that many people who are complaining about it were not GB fans before Arod came along.
I think it's best if we let the FO do their job while we be grateful for our 4th good franchise QB in a row.

I was born in Wisconsin and remained there through my entire education and have lived most all of my life in California because of my type of work. However, in my heart I still feel like a Wisconsinite and never in my lifetime would I ever thought that anyone would be paid $50 million a year to play a game that I loved as a kid and have it considered a bargain.

I still clearly remember the old days when we were little kids and we used to go over to the used car lot where John Martinkovic worked selling used cars to supplement his Packers salary. He was a defensive end for the Packers just prior to the Lombardi years and when things were slow he would throw the football around with us youngsters and we thought we were on top of the world. The Packer players in the 1950's probably made about what our dad's used to make working their jobs and since football and teaching had breaks during the year many of the people from those two professions used to supplement their incomes with additional jobs. I think Mr. Martinkovic would be surprised by what the modern day professional football player makes playing the game he loved.

I guess most football experts would just classify Mr. Martinkovic as a JAG (just another guy) in football terms, but to a handful of little kids from that era, he was a local hero.

As you note, around $50 million a year is the going rate, and you either pay up and hope the QB stays healthy and effective, or you refuse and join the scramble for a cheaper alternative. Is it a risk? Yes. That is why the structure of the contract is so important. Love exceeded expectations with a group of rookie receivers and a suspect defense. Pay the man, and once the hype and clamor over the size of the entire contract is over, look at what the contract actually obligates the Packers to pay.

I am pumped for this Packers team and can't wait to see the new players drafted to help a rising team. Love showed last year that he was willing to put in the work with the young receivers and it paid off. He is doing the same this year and isn't too good to want to get in the practice time with the "younger" WR's before team workouts start. He also has a great attitude AND the respect of the team after a year of starting. He is humble, hardworking, and ready to improve. His recent post says a lot about the man.

For all of the posters who don't think Love "deserves $50 million per year for 20 games experience, including Stockholder, who never ceases to amaze me with his ability to alienate and disagree with 95% of the posters here. What is the alternative?
Let's wait and compete with other NFL teams so we can pay $60 million per year.

Do you think Jerry Jones wouldn't pay Love rather than keep paying Dak?

Hey let's start over by elevating Sean Clifford to QB1. Maybe we can win 3 games with him.

How about we just find a guy playing sandlot football somewhere and make him the QB.

Backups who never play make $15 million. Journeymen QBs like Baker Mayfield get $35 million.

If Love had played 2 full years showing the talent he has, we would be looking @ $60 to $65 million per year.

Reading this crap is mind boggling. This is how it works in the NFL. Lock him up for the $50 million before it goes up.

I have no problem with gb giving j love the market price contract ( maybe even more as has been the norm here) you don’t draft a guy out of the blue like many thought . The packers spent 2-yrs researching love before drafting him . They know exactly what they have in him . IMHO Gute wanted to trade arod one year earlier and Murphy stopped that . But it all worked out now. Who knows maybe we would have not found the wrs and te’s that we did . So keep the faith in gute and our fo -they will get this correct also !!! GPG

Any QB contract of this size and magnitude should have an emergency exit. I'll call it the Daniel Jones Egress (DJE). How it would work is that after 1 year into in a QBs 2nd / 3rd contract - management can release that Player with a lump sum payment equal to 50% of the Player's average annual salary X the no. of years remaining on his contract. The yearly cap hit would then be reduced accordingly - over the same no. of years - as per the original contract.

Too many times a team is shackled by bad managerial decisions and/ bad QB performance(s). The DJE could provide a way for a team to unshackle itself from a miserable future. Thus I would have little or no trepidation if Love was signed to a 50m/yr X 5 yr. contract - if it also contained a DJE.

If I understand Love's current contract, the extension cannot take place until after next season concludes. That should be plenty of time to assess his value. If he continues to play @ the same level he did in the last 1/2 of the season, I am 100% in favor of paying him market rate--$50+M.

I've been carefully watching Love's words and body language in the recent slew of interviews. (I'm trying to sniff out potential narcissism or signs of disingenuous behavior). So far, my BS meter is not pinging. He seems fair, even-tempered, willing to give heartfelt compliments, wise beyond his years.

My blood pressure is finally coming down.

Personally, I’d like to watch him play the first half this season then go from there. There’s still plenty of time IMO.

May 3rd is the date that GB can extend Love, and they should get his signature on the contract ASAP. No, we shouldn't wait until 1/2 way through the season. And No, we definitely should not wait until after the year to try to extend him. Who do you think has all the leverage in those scenarios. The biggest mistake the Packers could make is to drag this out to a point where Love starts to question how much GB really wants him.

The absolute last thing we want is for other teams to get the opportunity to outbid us. $50 million might seem cheap at that point. Especially if Love has even a decent year in 2024.

The alternatives are we lose Love and get to start Sean Clifford next year? Or we could move up to draft one and give away this year's draft and next year's top 2 picks. No No No No!!!!! Get it done soon and 2025 is going to be a really big year for the Packers.

Guys.....this is our Super Bowl window. Pay Love and get on with it. If he doesn't get us to the promised land, start over after this contract. IMO, that's the mistake we've made with Rodgers and Favre: Favre was given new deals long after his only Super Bowl win. Rodgers, too. IMO, if a QB is on the bad side of 30, and he hasn't been to the Super Bowl in the last couple of years, you should be replacing him, not extending him.

$50,000,000 is a lot of dollars.

The NFL is a multi-billion dollar business and if anybody gets a big cut it should be the players, yes?

The market sets the price and the CBA is 95% of the contract so let's hope GB manages the cap hit fairly well, and let's get the season started.

PAY THE MAN. I said it on a Packers Daily a while back- let's not alienate a 3rd consecutive franchise QB. Not saying it was the team's fault with either of those, but let's show him we're committed to him from the get go. We already bought some time to evaluate him, and he crushed it. Let's get him locked up and move on to other positions. Why not? It's not real money anyway. Let's have fun and not sew any seeds of future BS. PAY THE MAN!!

He's going to get a 5 year deal between $237.5-262.5 million($47.5-52.5 M AV), the only question is how much is guaranteed and of they make a portion incentive based.

How does the author of this blog come to the conclusion that Josh Jacobs is a significant roster improvement over Aaron Jones? Given Jones' health and performance over his final 5 games played, I don't see any improvement signing Jacobs over Jones. In fact, given Jones' leadership, I see a potential decline at the running back position and team production.
One great half of a season, albeit the second half, doesn't earn an elite quarterback contract. It would be prudent for the Packers to evaluate Love for at least the first half of the 2024 season. Let him demonstrate that he will be playing at an elite level for the length of the contract, if healthy. The second half of 2023 and first half of 2024, at the same level of play, would be proof of his elite ability. I want the second half of 2023 Love for the Packers going forward. I just want the Packers to be sure that the first half of 2023 Love isn't going to show up half the time.

Big question when the opposing coaches figure out how defend against Love will he as as effective and with the money over a long extended contract. Hope Packers learned a lesson with Rodgers and Bakh not to hurry into this! Never hurry into the really unknown yet. Give it another year or time!

Yeah, that's a great idea. Lets tell Jordan Love to play his A$$ off this year, AGAIN, and maybe we will pony up the cash after the season. But maybe Jordan, you can give us a discount to boot, for us not trusting that you really are good.

When free agency started this year there were some posters who wanted GB to just sign the best FAs no matter the cost. When I and others argued against that way of doing business, they countered with "What do you care, it's not coming out of your pocket?" Well, this money is to resign the current very talented QB to a pretty much league standard contract. In line with what NFL QBs are getting paid in 2024.

Are you "Let's wait and see how Love does this year before we pay him" fans really wanting to chance losing him to another team in a bidding war? And starting over from scratch? When we are sitting here at the start of a 5-year window of competing for championships?

I don't have an exact figure but there are probably 15-20 teams that would get in on that bidding war. stop arguing about what is merely the cost of doing business in the NFL.