Wise words indeed Ken! I also think that the game will be close. Somebody will need to make a play, if they do...the Packers can get their man card stamped.

Ken, more or less we are on the ssme page. Only, I really doubt that Romeo Doubs will elevate his game to become star of the game. He lost his confidence after that nulified TD. That is obvious. He is not decisive as he been in first few games. Why is that, I do not know. It may be that either coaches or his team mates wrongly press him for that mistake.

On the other hand, I would love him to rise to occasion and to fulfill your preditcion.

This is gonna be a tight game from the first snap to the second snap, then its all a dumpster storm from here. I'm glad in a way, always thought Gutt wasnt the genius but the boy idiot drafting cheap as players to keep the money down to pay Rodgers. I'll always beleive Gary would have been a good second round pick but not a 12.

Overall I don’t think this team has the mental toughness to make it to the super bowl. It’s probably a rebuild after this year. Why pay a number one?

There’s a lot for whom this notion is a last desperate hope. It would be better for us to finally let some reality in and do as you say.

Agree. The future has been sacrificed so this team can exist in its current form, no need to do further future damage so this team can improve.

If this was a great team in all phases and Lazard went down with a season ending injury, sure go get a WR to keep the team rolling. But this team has so many issues to work on that a playoff appearance is in question, let alone postseason wins. No way this team should be sacrificing the future so this team can be one and done in the playoffs again.

I see trading for a good RG and/or RT as helping more. It's all about the OL, better run blocking and pass blocking and fewer penalties.

Then need to eliminate bonehead mental mistakes (drops and turnovers). One WR isn't going to fix all that.

The biggest Problem this team has is Mr Ego!

I thought we already took on somebody else's disappointment. Seriously, Cobb wouldn't have come back. And Watkins wouldn't be here either. And if it gets Winfree and Amari out of here. I'm all for it.

Totally agree with the article. I’ll say it again, the Packers should be sellers not buyers. One WR isn’t going to do it. Time to stockpile picks, minimize crushing cap crisis and play the folks who are and are not making mistakes. Let’s see Touree. Let’s see Love for four weeks so the 50m thumb can heal. More Deguara. Hell, even run Amari Rodgers out there as a WR so we can finally stick a dagger in that draft pick.

I was not on board with trading for a WR until about 2 weeks ago. That is when it became pretty clear to me that this current unit just needs someone else brought in. Someone who is reliable. Someone who can stay on the field. The top of our WR unit has missed too many games. They need someone else that is reliable catching and could potentially be a deep threat. When Watson is playing, it changes the way defenses play with us. When he isn't, it feels like we have little speed.

What a difference a reliable WR would have made the last few games. The last few games if they had a WR that could be reliable and catch 3rd down passes, that keeps drives moving. If they keep drives moving who knows what happens. We have had really bad timing of dropped passes. And balls that hit the WR's in the hands.

Also, if there is a deep threat, that opens up the offense. Defenses can't just play downhill because they aren't worried about anyone beating them deep, that makes a huge difference.

They just really need some consistency at the WR position. Perhaps they will get it with injured players coming back. But the only player that hasn't missed time has been Doubs. Cobb will be out for a few weeks yet. And with Watkins/Watsons injuries who knows if they can remain healthy. Lazard won't be playing this week, and who knows about the next few games.

Also, if they make a bigger move, lets say trade for DJ Moore. That could ignite the team. That could bring some energy to the team.

Its time to add someone. I still have hope for this team! They just may need a boost.

With 24 rec, 16.1 avg, 2 TDs, and 17 FD--- I would take a youthful Jeudy for a 3rd round pick. However, if the O line doesn't start blocking, it won't matter who is at WR, RB, or QB.

As a Monday Morning Quarterback...we should have traded Rodgers to Denver for the boatload we could have gotten. However, before the season started, I may have been thinking Rodgers of 2022 was quite similar to Rodgers of 2021.

"-- Count me among those who was put off by Aaron Rodgers remarks on the Pat McAfee show this week."

As long as the players aren't (if only we knew what they thought about it... oh wait! We do! Sammy Watkins: “If you’re not performing or executing … then I’m with Aaron. If I’m not playing well and I’m freaking up and busting plays, get me out of the game because that’s not helping the team.”) I really don't care what is said on McAfee or what the sports media has to say about it. The only reason I even know that trainwreck of a show exists is because you guys can't seem to stop talking about it. I mean, oh. my. GAWD! Did you guys here what Aaron Rodgers said on McAfee last night? I know, I can't believe it. He's so stuck up. And not even that handsome anymore, not like the Joe Burrow, he's so dreeeamyyyyyy. lol, sorry can't help myself. Pantz_Burp, I'm tagging you in - you're up buddy!

If there is a viable WR available for a bargain price (6th or 7th rounder), then maybe. But I don't think its worth spending future draft capital or cap space for a WR now.

I want to be optimistic for this weeks game, but there's just nothing to show otherwise. Bills 42, Packers 10

I'd also like to find out what we have in Winfree and Toure, as well as Amari Rodgers, plus more of Doubs and Watson.
At the same time, I wouldn't mind trading for a wide receiver if it was a fair deal. No panic, no overpaying.
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In any case, Aaron Rodgers has to throw them the ball.
Give these guys an opportunity to be the primary receiver at times during a game, and throw it to them if at all open. A quarterback getting $50 million per season should be precise.
If the primary receiver is covered, have a secondary receiver that Rodgers can find as a quick alternative.
After that, have a safety valve running back or tight end to throw to, or throw the ball away.
Rodgers can roll out at times to facilitate throwing the ball away without an intentional grounding penalty, if his first two reads are covered.
Mix in the deep throws, especially on third-and-long, when an interception can be comparable to a punt, especially if the other receivers trail the play to make a tackle if necessary.
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What all of these ideas have in common is to keep the passing game quick and simple.
Also, it's important for receivers to feel as though there's at least an intention to get them targets from time to time. That naturally gets the adrenalin flowing for more energy and more focus overall.
More encouragement from our quarterback would also do wonders for our receivers, it seems to me.

Lambeau Londe wast in trepidation. Verily, dark portents of doom were everywhere after a loss so calamitous few wouldst name it. All they had to look forward to was Love, and in him few had faith. Much wailing and gnashing of teeth was there in the taverns.

Then up rode Lord Murphy on the gleaming charger Hubris. He knowingly surveyed his Theigns, secure in the excess of wisdom that saw him mounted so illustriously. “I have a vision of rings and Silver” he proclaimed. “I bring thee that which I know thine hearts doth desire most.”

Thrice he turned around muttering the magic words 4th MVP. Then he waived his magic executive pointer and said we can do it, for what we thought lost can be yet be gained.

Plucky Sir Gute said but “I have no receivers, for young Love the Esquire knows not how to use them”. Charming Sir Flower was brave and dashing in off season mode and did kiss the feet of his master most earnestly and promise to echo his every word. Sir Ball merely scowled, clutched his purse and caressed a shekel.

“Prithee ignore Sir Gute and his inconvenient roster” quoth our hero. Am I not your liege lord and master and the seer of our realm? “I say we need not worry about Shekels, we will simply spend ones we do not yet have, for what we have not cannot hurt us.” “Call back St Aaron and shower him with alms and flatteries.”

The assembled then murmured that our hotspur, Sir Adams has left the field for amity and family and returneth not. Sir Murphy wouldst none of that hear. “Fie on your doubts. For I am anointed by the Great Ones that doth partake in cocktails and mutual glad handing on high. They hath granted me sole right to impart my wisdom over this fiefdom.” All were quiet save Sir Ball crying quietly over his cap and Brave Sir Flower boot kissing.

Up spake Lord Murphy again. “Lo, I tell thee, that varlet Sir Adams was a false prophet and unfaithful knight who stole all the light and now has truck with Saracens. He was not our true champion for we need not flash on the field but faith In my wisdom. I tell you, Brave Sir Lazard and and Cobb will light the true way.” And thus he ordained that the feasting shouldst continue and let any who doubt it be cast into the wilderness beyond our borders.

And thus it came to pass that St. Rodgers, proud in his might, didst take the field full of confidence. So undaunted was he that he tricked not with the youngsters for it’s known that they are mere pretenders, but chose the counsel of the few old and infirm retainers of yore.

With these these stalwart favorites he marched, a little slowly, into battle armed with and steeled by faith born of rare herbs and the valiant words of Lord Murphy. Onwards he went unchanging and unyielding towards the Sancte Graal and the MVP so assuredly promised in the great giftings from his Lord.
He was soundly trounced, trussed and hogtied by urchins to lowly to Mention hitherto who paid no attention to the wisdom of Murphy.

And the moral of this tale? Believeth not in a guy who rides on Hubris and tellest thee that thou shouldst put thy faith in a firkin of obvious crap.

Extracted from the Chronicles of Lambeau. Sadly the remainder of which are scorched beyond legibility.

They should trade for a WR to salvage the season. Every thing is going the wrong direction this year. Cooks from Houston would be a good fit.

Listen, Lafleur, Rodgers and Barry are not using the players to use their abilities.

Lafleur noted that Doubs ran the pattern as designed but the wrong direction as Rodgers rolled out is a great example of messing up a young receiver. And when will they use Jones and Dillon more? Unbelievable.

Barry has cornerbacks that are best in man coverage but he uses zone primarily. And something is wrong if there are communication issues. That is coaching issues.

And finally, when will Rodgers throw to the open receiver rather than just to his trusted WR.

Lots of things to fix.

I couldn't disagree more. We have consistently and constantly let ARod down over the years with the draft and develop strategy. It's been proven to make great playoff teams, but that's it. It's a conservative approach, bouyed by an incredible talent at QB, that led to false positives for success. We literally threw away ARod's prime on the stubbornness of Ted Thompson sticking to his formula; not accepting the reality that the CBA had permanently and thoroughly ruined D&D as a primary method of team building with the near exclusion of free agent signings. And now Gutey and his cre, are continuing the tradition of over-appreciating their skill at drafting in the face of the reality that we don't have the right players on the team. And a large handful of draft picks haven't panned out. Which should be lesson enough, but because we don't have an owner, there's no accountability regarding D&D's evaluation. Hoping they get it right next year, and overvaluing draft capital has put us in a hole for a decade, providing a Superbowl is the criteria it's balanced against. And honestly, they put 150 million is ARod's pocket. If they're all-in, then be all-in. You can't commit to an all-in strategy but try to keep your draft picks. It's the definition of insanity. Either we take risks or we're risk averse. We can't have it both ways, one foot in, one foot out. And using ARod's inhuman greatness to propel us to the playoffs, perennially, as justification for the D&D strategy is dishonest at best. It's time to wholeheartedly mortgage the future and commit. Trade Love, trade every pick we need to get 2 quality WRs. Then pay OBJ whatever he wants on top of that. Give AR a full stable of weapons to work with like in 2011. We still have all the other parts. And then the coaching and accountability can come into focus. Not having the right players is a bigger problem come playoff time than great coaching is. I'm tired of seeing the best-coached, least penalized, penny-pincher squad go out pre-superbowl. And I'm equally tired listening to blame end up on ARod's shoulders. It's time for Packers management to stop defining success as making the playoffs. Which is clearly the subtext to a decade of failure with arguably the most talented QB in history. There's a hubris that stems from the TT line that needs to be reckoned with and weeded out.

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It's too late. That ship has sailed. No WR is going to turn around this team. There are too many other issues to correct that will keep this team from a SB. No reason to mortgage more of the future. It's been done. We ride with horse that brung us. Hope we may have until reality sets in. I'm hopeful that when Watson heals he will at least take the top off the defense, unless they keep using him on jet sweeps that were already being sniffed out. Let him do what you drafted him for and throw him the dang ball. At a minimum the fear of a completion to him will back off the opposing defenses. Drops? Likely. Interceptions? Maybe. The difference? None. What's to lose? Nothing. You're going to audible out of a run, because you don't trust the RB's to gain ONE yard, and at the same time don't trust the receivers either??? WTF are we doing out there?

So.. adopt the Ted Thompson method of continually planning for 4 years down the road and win nothing significant in the meantime? Yeah sure, why TF not?

Oh yes the much beloved draft capital. We need a functional #1 AND #2 WR AND better TE. Any of those 3 would help but a #1 WR would help the most. Packers have been drafting in the second round or later for WR and it takes YEARS for ANY of them to produce at a #1 level.....So either we compete this year and next or we wait until Doubs and Watson, etc get it together in the next 2-4 years. That's reality. Maybe we lose most of games and we get a high enough draft pick and get a rookie #1 like Jefferson and a FEW others. I have not seen
AR elevate anyone yet at those positions we already have....So it's current lack of talent and experience as well as a very negative force behind center. As soon as Watson dropped that pass...he should have went right back to him and built some confidence. If they do nothing else A.Jones needs feed the ball in run/pass game as often as Adams was.

Can't say I disagree. There is no way at this point for GB to make their roster more than incrementally better, and frankly, incrementally isn't gonna cut it. At this point I feel like they should be trying something wild like lining Jones up as a traditional WR w Amari in the backfield, running Wildcats with Doubs/Watson, or maybe even throwing Love in on some zone read packages. I don't think "scheme" is the answer, but GB needs a spark somewhere and they're not getting it from what they're doing. Now is prime time to throw a bunch of spaghetti at the wall and see what sticks.

As I lay me down to sleep, I ask the Lord my soul to keep. I also ask, why is this happening to the Packers???

...for the longest time, I didn't get a vision or answer... nothing. AND THEN, it became crystal clear:

Da Bears STILL suck!

(with that, I lay my head down in peace)

Ah yes continue to draft and develop...so we can waste the 3 years and 150mil ARod signed on for? Either be all in or not! At some point you have to make a splash in trades or free agency. The Bills passing game is stellar for a few reasons but it wouldn't be what it is if they hadn't made the huge trade for Diggs a few years ago.
A veteran like BCooks or AJ Green might not be the solution but Elijah Moore, DJ Moore and Jerry Jeudy would immediately elevate this offense and also be good for many years. They're great talented WRs who are getting squandered on bad teams and bad QBs, give them a chance to catch from ARod.

We know what we have from Winfree who's what a 3rd year veteran? There's a reason he hasn't made the active roster. Amari has as many fumbles as catches, yes he hasn't had many snaps but we've seen enough.
Toure deserves some time but he's a 7th round rookie, if he's any good it'll be a few years and ARod will be gone.

To everyone who says don't load up now, we're rebuilding. NO. Aaron costs still 40mil if he's not back next year and our defense if allowed to play could win now. We need a healthy line that can block and two solid healthy WRs. I was willing to see how this group did but with how many injuries we have to the WR group this season is lost if we don't get help. And why call it a lost season when you just paid your QB 150mil? Pretty big waste of money.

Go get help. Win now. We rebuild when's ARods gone. Which even if he stays all 3 seasons we'll still potentially have a few solid pieces to build around

Let's be honest Joe Berry and Matt Lafluer should not be coordinators . It's hard for me to blame Lafluer because I'm not sure if he or Rodgers is making the calls.

It is time to see what we have : Dave Bak is player I admire and it is not his fault he got hurt, but we all know this is his last yr so why not Start Yosh at LT see if he is going to be your future and Zack Tom at Right Tackle see if he is your right tackle or Rasheed Walker we need to find out . We know Meyers and Runyan are fine and I bet Jenkins keeps getting back into form as he is farther and farther away from his Acl injury. I actually like the o line and it's potential. Bak can ask for his release, but he will need to renegotiate his contract for that it goes both ways. Let's be hones the window shut,.

Please find a competent defensive coordinator that uses this talent correctly for 4 quarters . Same goes for Devonte Wyatt cut reed and Lowrey snaps not because they suck but because they won't be back.

I've said it for years and firmly believe, the right guy in the right situation, can make the difference....

Use Dillon in a trade if Hill is back , Dillon does not fit in this offense and can’t buy a yard anyway.

When the Packers lost Adams and MVS, that was a huge part of their offense. Those two guys made everything click on offense; Adams being great and MVS being the speed to stretch the defense. They were the #1 and #2 WRs. They setup the run to be more effective. Lazard is and always will be a #3 receiver and he is the best we got. I would be in favor of giving up a draft pick to get some help at WR. There is still time to salvage the season seeing as how there are some good players on this team. There is no guarantee a draft pick pans out, and if you can get a proven player, they need to pursue it.

I was all for a trade in the off-season after Adams left. At this point I don’t see a WR that’s worth it.Now it’s too late.

I would have traded for Robbie Anderson. He's dirt cheap. That ship sailed.

Brandin Cooks is available, apparently. Not sure about his price in draft picks, but the 2022 money is fine. Now the $18M he is guaranteed in 2023 is a problem. Cooks has a track record of playing well for his new teams, though I think he got a training camp to acclimate in the past. I don't expect the Packers to acquire Cooks, and probably don't want them to based on what I think he'd cost in pick and 2023 cap space.

I'd prefer to find a quality OL.

Going into the season the receiving corps was sketchy at best. At this moment in time is it better to be a buyer or a seller? Please keep in mind that after this season the wr corp will consist of Rodgers, Doubs, Watson, and Toure. Lazard, Watkins, and Cobb as well as Tonyan and Lewis are all UFA. As it stands, the pack will be approx 2.3 mil over the cap.
Add Amos and Crosby to the UFA list. Does anyone think the team on the field next season would be better than this year as it currently stands? Factor in the speculation that Aaron Jones will be cut without compensation to get under the cap. All this while paying a 40 year old qb 50 mil? Future looks bleak.
I believe they can be both a buyer and seller at the same time while still fielding a competitive team. The pack is currently 11 mil under the cap so pieces could be added.
Offer a 5th round pick to Denver for KJ Hamler - under rookie deal through 2024
Offer Amari Rodgers to Jacksonville for a conditional pick as he was a college team mate of Trevor Lawrence.
Offer Eric Stokes to Pittsburg along with a 6th round pick for Chase Claypool. Both under rookie deals and Pitt needs secondary help.
These moves would slightly improve next seasons cap by 200k and provide young veterans with upside to add to the wr room.