The significance of RAS for the Green Bay Packers' 2024 draft

Aaron chats with Rex Shield about Kent Lee Platte’s Relative Athletic Score (RAS) and how following it can tell fans a lot about who the Packers will be looking at in the NFL draft.

 

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MooPack's picture

March 12, 2024 at 09:55 am

Guys, it's a bit disingenuous to say that the Packers don't use RAS. Yeah, ok, they say they don't, but they certainly know Platte's system. They certainly use the same numbers. A 40 is a 40. A shuttle is a shuttle. A vertical is a vertical. Everyone uses the same numbers unless they come in and run private for the team. Can't do that for everyone. What they most likely do is WEIGHT the different scores differently based on position. I'm sure most teams with a brain in their head do. It still aligns close enough to be confident that in most cases they are going to draft guys that have a high RAS score. This whole "well the Packers don't use RAS" is a bit overblown. Call it PRAS if it makes you feel better.

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NJMagic's picture

March 12, 2024 at 10:00 am

And their new safety has a terrible RAS! How could they waste so much $$ on him ??

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MooPack's picture

March 12, 2024 at 10:16 am

Your talking about the difference between drafting for statistical probability that one player is better than another and signing a proven veteran that plays well despite not testing well. That is what is not quantifiable with physical testing. You'll never know that until they play, but you don't go into a draft guessing this guy with low physical test scores is going to prove that wrong. Especially in the high draft capitol first two rounds.

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Leatherhead's picture

March 12, 2024 at 11:56 am

The race is not always to the swift, but that's how the smart money bets.

And yeah, I'd rather have a proven 25-26 year old vet than a 21 year old rookie with potential, because the vet has already learned the things the rookie is going to have to, and he's at his physical peak. Guys who work out get stronger after 21 and your average 25 year old in the NFL probably stronger than the average 21 year old.

If you start making exceptions to the kind of guys you draft, then pretty soon you have a team made up of exceptions. The older I get, the more I start thinking that George Allen had the right idea....he'd trade most draft picks away in favor of veterans who he knew could play.

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WD's picture

March 12, 2024 at 10:39 am

You make a great point. And, it is true that McKinney only ran a 4.63 . Maybe that is why the Giants did not sign him? It also shows that the NAS is not everything. Devante Adams didn't blow anyone away with his combine either. So, there are always rare exceptions to the rule. There are no absolutes. And, how they actually play on the field may be the greatest factor of all. When it comes to the draft you don't really know until at least a year later.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 12, 2024 at 01:24 pm

He made the All-American Football team in 2019. What is the RAS score for Watching Film?

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WD's picture

March 12, 2024 at 10:22 am

I suspect there is an extremely high correlation between RAS scores and elite players . I like it because it is science in terms of objectivity based on measurable data. What is the alternative? Highlight films? They are important too. However, the maxim should be; all things being equal go with the higher NAS. And, yes, now with Aaron Jones gone it is now mandatory we get another elite RB. Jones' leaving changes everything. Moreover, please do not assume Benson will be available at 41. Yes I know 25 would probably be considered a reach; so it will be a tough call. I would roll the dice on Benson and get the best! In fact for the first round I like the player with the highest RAS available whether it be RB on offense or ILB, CB, Safety or anything else on defense. That said, the idea of Jacobs and Benson manning the RB position sounds fantastic to me. I am sure love would dig it too. We can reinforce the O- line with our two picks in the third round. Gute must be licking his chops.

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murf7777's picture

March 12, 2024 at 02:02 pm

RB is no longer a big need. Why even consider reaching for one? If you look at draft buzz who use a 10 scout draft prognosticator's you will find the highest rated is brooks and he is averaged to go at 63rd. The rest are all mid to late 3rd or later. IMO, You need OL and other areas more so than spending on RB at a prime pick. I would use my 3rd round pick or later for the RB. Another note, many good RB's in the last 10 years came after the 3rd round.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

March 12, 2024 at 03:08 pm

Gutey needs to draft 3 O linemen, and they all need to be good. Waiting until round 3 to start would be a mistake.

Is it essential that round 1 only goes to O line? "There are only so many big men," and a LOT of them are expected to go in round 1.

It'll be interesting to see what he does ...

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golfpacker1's picture

March 12, 2024 at 02:17 pm

Those 3rd round picks are late in the round as are all of our picks from the 3rd on, WD. And we will wait for almost 35 picks from #91 until #125. If we don't grab a really good OL early, that fits what we need, the pickings will be slim in round 3.

Plus, instead of drafting Benson in the 2nd round, those two 3rd round picks will be right in the meat of the RB, S, LB and CB classes. My question is always, is that player at that position head and shoulders above all the other players at that position. If not, would it be better to fill a bigger need instead, and take a n RB in the 3rd, where all the AJ clones will be. Wright, Irving, Lloyd, Davis, & Brooks.

If it falls right to us, I really think we need to grab a STARTING O-lineman with our first pick. Whether we pick @ #25 or if we trade back slightly. Any player picked in round 1 should be a starter.

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