Top 5 Wide Receiver Options for the Packers Post-Davante

Cody looks at the best available options at wide receiver after the trade of Davante Adams.

 

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LukErdoSRU34's picture

March 19, 2022 at 09:30 am

MVS? I’d take him over Julio as a size/speed guy, even before you get to the fact he already has been playing in the system with Rodgers for years and Rodgers wants him…

OBJ wouldnt be ready until the playoffs. I don’t know why you’d even consider him until he’s actually ready to play… Trading for Woods off an ACL is kinda crazy. Landry might make sense, but can you keep two older slot guys with Cobb also on the roster? Plus Am. Rodgers is kinda of a slot guy also…Will fuller is always available. I’d go D. Jackson before him as another Cal guy Rodgers likes who can still burn…no way they don’t take a WR in Rd 1 or two also of the draft…garbage video.

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PackerAaron's picture

March 19, 2022 at 10:01 am

Just had to throw in those last two words, huh? Says a lot more about you than the video.

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Coldworld's picture

March 19, 2022 at 10:24 am

He or she may not have been very politic, but OBJ may not play at all. Julio Jones is old and oft injured. Those seem odd proposals to me. Not in the past, but we aren’t living there.

Landry is indeed a slot. I’m not averse to him in theory, though I’m dubious he’s cheap enough and I don’t see that with Cobb making any sense in our context (even though Landry would make more sense than Cobb in isolation).

Fuller is oft injured. Honestly I’d go MVS to take the top off over him and I think MVS is cheaper. I see Fuller as another Cobb type—a player that you don’t plan around and play for limited snaps when injury or situations demand it. I’m not sure that’s a consistent threat to take off the top or not excessive risk in having two such players.

Woods is one option that seems at least worth looking at in our system. I’m not sure we can afford him though, but he does block and is from a similar system. The pool may change with the draft and other moves. I suspect we may not play till the summer, apart from MVS perhaps.

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PackerAaron's picture

March 19, 2022 at 10:23 am

See how you made an argument without resorting to insults? Just saying it aint that tough.

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Coldworld's picture

March 19, 2022 at 10:27 am

It’s not, though as fans, there is a tendency to emotion and trigger players/concepts. I may perhaps have sinned once or twice myself. My post was in part a riposte by contrast to reset.

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10ve 💚's picture

March 21, 2022 at 07:58 am

We love you Aaron. I'm a huge Packer fan. I am also a huge PackerAaron fan.

Why? Because you are the real Packer fan. You ooze green and gold. You give your honest opinion/assessment.

Like ColdWorld said, as fans we do get emotional and sometimes some of us strike the keyboard hard and then wish we had the words back. I'm sure that the person who came out with the insult feels the same way most of the time.

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dobber's picture

March 19, 2022 at 10:47 am

Woods I think comes with a $12M cap number in 2022 by trade and has 4 years left on that deal. The Packers would likely need to renegotiate that if they brought him in, and isn't particularly young, either.

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Coldworld's picture

March 19, 2022 at 10:55 am

But that’s easy, do a Murphy: just push it forwards! It’s the new Packer way. Tomorrow never comes until it’s today.

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dobber's picture

March 19, 2022 at 11:03 am

Let me borrow that pointy stick when you're done with it...

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Coldworld's picture

March 19, 2022 at 12:15 pm

The figurative stick found it’s mark :)

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HawkPacker's picture

March 20, 2022 at 06:49 am

You two are just too funny.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

March 19, 2022 at 06:09 pm

Woods is 30, ACL in practice running a jet sweep (no contact) on Nov. 11th - just prior to week 10), and the acquiring team would have cap hits of $13.5M, $13,75M, $15.75M and $17.5M (yeah, that's after LAR eats dead money for his bonus).

There has been a modest drop in his yards/game since 2018/2019 when he put up 75 and 76 yds/game, now down to 58 in 2020 and 61 yd/gm with Stafford (but Kupp was on fire and eating up a lot of targets).

Probably a top #2WR who might still be a pretty good #1 if he were the main guy. If he takes a full year, probably looking at 7 to 9 games in 2022. It is all cash on a trade so Ball and push a little, a lot or something in between into 2023.

As a person and as a WR, yeah, Woods would be sweet, just don't think the rest works as well.

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LLCHESTY's picture

March 19, 2022 at 06:58 pm

Brandin Cooks makes more sense to me and not just because he's healthy. Looks like his salary is about $8.7 million which is palatable given his production the last two years. Then if they draft a couple WRs that look like they're going to be players they can let him walk for a 2024 comp pick. Not sure if Texans would be interested in trading him though.

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dobber's picture

March 19, 2022 at 10:18 am

Will Fuller is a train wreck. Off-field problems...can't stay healthy...

Maybe you take a flier there if he's languished on the market and comes dirt cheap, but otherwise? Nah.

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PackerAaron's picture

March 19, 2022 at 10:22 am

That's totally fair - but they've clearly been in on him previously. LaFleur loves him.

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Coldworld's picture

March 19, 2022 at 10:30 am

The past is another country, as L.P. Hartley put it. I’m a little concerned the FO is spending too long there currently. Please: no encouragement!

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KenEllis's picture

March 19, 2022 at 10:34 am

MVS (or Fuller) add something that is completely lacking in the WR corps at the moment, speed.

But neither one is very good and Fuller is always hurt.

The rest of the remaining free agent WRs pretty much stink. Landry is OK but he is not exactly a boundary receiver and we already have Cobb and Amari Rodgers in the slot.

Unless the Packers trade for an established NFL WR, then it is just going to be a rookie (or two) and a collection of journeymen.

Sadly, TE may even be worse (ducks).

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PeteK's picture

March 19, 2022 at 11:25 am

It looks like Landry is signing with Falcon. So Fuller 53-869-8 in 2020 on a one year a couple of mill contract along with MVs might be our best option. An 8 mill combo leaves money for Lazard, veteran edge ( Mercilus, Ingram, Hughes) and DT (Hicks). Ogunjobi just failed his physical might get himon the cheap with a huge upside.

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HankScorpio's picture

March 19, 2022 at 11:35 am

A bigger concern that a lack of speed is a lack of production. The Packers WR group was not lacking in speed last season. MVS and ESB both run very well. Unfortunately, neither could translate that into even an 800 yard season, even playing with a HoF QB.

I'd take a snail, a turtle and a slug if they all produced 800 yard seasons. If would be better to have a jack-rabbit and a road runner that could produce 800 yard seasons. But I don't think the Packers are in a position to be picky.

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Coldworld's picture

March 19, 2022 at 12:22 pm

Diversity of threat is essential to an effective offense. It forces defenses to have to hedge options, opening opportunities for both catchers and runners. Also, it’s very unlikely that one will have 4 number one receivers or even 4 old fashioned 2s. Therefore we need to have players who can fulfill certain roles as well as doing some grunt work. The fact that defenses routinely account for MVS means his presence helps others. That’s got a value in if itself. Now it comes down to whether we can negotiate a fair one.

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HankScorpio's picture

March 19, 2022 at 01:17 pm

"The fact that defenses routinely account for MVS means his presence helps others."

Objection. Facts not in evidence. I'd say that is something a lot of people want to believe more than it is a cold, hard fact.

Here is a cold hard fact. MVS posted a career low in yards last year. Of course, he was hurt. That's not exactly hurting the case to move on but just to deal with it, his yds/game regressed from 2020 as well.

Here is another cold, hard fact. MVS played exactly 1 snap on STs last year. That ran his career total to 48, 45 of which came in his rookie year.

Maybe I can pin my hopes on Rich Bisaccia being the grown up in the room that finally says the emperor has no clothes, and its not that he runs too fast to see them.

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Coldworld's picture

March 19, 2022 at 01:25 pm

Facts not in evidence? I disagree without reservation

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HankScorpio's picture

March 19, 2022 at 01:33 pm

lol, I guess the objection is over-ruled. :)

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

March 19, 2022 at 06:14 pm

Looking at film just from Dusty and others, I was amazed at how often defenses doubled MVS or shaded a safety his way. Some moved a safety over Adams, and I would have liked to have seen more production from MVS against those teams, but now my memory gets iffy because i am not sure if those were the games MVS was out or just coming back from his hammy.

FWIW, I think defenses did change how the played the packers when MVS was in the game. Nope, evidence is my eye test and watching dusty's stuff.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

March 19, 2022 at 06:16 pm

BTW, GB re-signed Tonyan. 1 year with a void. No #s.

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HawkPacker's picture

March 20, 2022 at 06:55 am

Tonyan signing is good news. However, along with a WR, I think we need a TE as Tonyan probably will not be available at the start of the season.

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HankScorpio's picture

March 20, 2022 at 10:16 am

Objection Withdrawn. If you have watched and seen it, I believe you. I have not watched so I have no basis to question it beyond his pure numbers being rather modest. Which is a very thin argument, I admit.

Even so, that's not necessarily an endorsement of MVS per se. More of an endorsement of having speed on the field. So find another burner WR. See if that guy can turn that speed into both attention from the defense that frees up others, better production and, lord help us, some special teams play. Everyone pays lip service to the notion that guys a bit further down the roster need to contribute on STs. If that is true, that is reason enough to want to move on from MVS.

On the general topic of ST, here are some others that hold positions in the roster pecking order that do not appear to be living up to the "it is important they can play ST" thing.... Randall Cobb, Marcedes Lewis, Vernon Scott. Dominque Daffney, Chandon Sullivan, Allen Lazard, Kevin King, Jonathan Garvin, Amari Rodgers, Krys Barnes. None of them are such stars that they should not be risked on STs. None of them played as much as 30% of the snaps on ST. I would think they should look for replacements that can make the same contribution on offense or defense while also positively impacting ST. The former will not be hard and the latter will be even easier.

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MJisbeast's picture

March 19, 2022 at 11:56 am

So as a Texans fan, will fuller would be awesome. But the Packers should definitely sign two of those players in that list. I would say having Julio Jones, will Fuller, and possibly another draft pick or one of the dropped bills receivers call Beasley or Emmanuel Sanders would be great names to add as well. That way when Valdes scantling or Lazard gets injured, they have back up options. Randall Cobb is a great vet but he’s not going to make it through the entire season healthy. So having to add to free agents, or maybe three free agents,, And drafting another receiver would be awesome. And that gives time for Amari Rodgers to develop t

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Swagsundevil's picture

March 19, 2022 at 12:26 pm

I feel like Julio struggled to much

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marpag1's picture

March 19, 2022 at 12:09 pm

I wouldn't go for any of these guys.

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NitschkeFan's picture

March 19, 2022 at 12:25 pm

Agree, that is a list of old and/or injured guys. Unless they come very very cheap I wouldn't be interested in any of them.

Perhaps using draft capital (and Jordan Love) as trait bait for someone?

Otherwise draft multiple WR's (at least 2) in first 3 rounds and pray. Use remaining picks and cap space to fill out DL / Edge / OT

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marpag1's picture

March 19, 2022 at 01:48 pm

Yeah, that's the real problem... the amount of money that you would need to pay for high risk players. I can't see Julio or OBJ coming to GB unless we pay them way more than I would be comfortable paying them.

I could see taking a few very low budget fliers on some no-name guys and then just hope to get lucky... how much would it take to sign a Zach Pascal or Keelan Cole? Super highly unlikely that these guys are going to be studs - they might not even make the team - but maybe letting them catch balls from ARod might make them serviceable.

I'm tempted to say Jameson Crowder or Cole Beasley, but I think those dudes are just too damn small to play in an MLF offense.

The real improvement needs to come from the draft.

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Coldworld's picture

March 20, 2022 at 09:09 am

I’d be shocked if OBJ hits any field for any team if his injury in the Super Bowl is as reported. As TGR noted, Woods went down in week 10, and thus might be back late.

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Pernicious's picture

March 19, 2022 at 12:30 pm

For several years I would have been ecstatic if the Packers had picked up one of these guys to play on the other side of Adams as a WR2. Now, seeing this list and imagining them as WR1 just depresses me. I trust the front office, but man... I thought we were lacking depth prior to losing Adams. Yuck. Too bad it wasn't in the cards, but I would have liked to see Robinson II and a Rnd 1-3 WR via draft in addition to Lazard, Cobb, & Rodgers. Makes for a very interesting offseason though!

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

March 19, 2022 at 06:31 pm

Whats more depressing is having a hall of fame caliber receiver but still losing in the playoffs cuz qb1 refuses to throw to anyone else. They shouldve traded Rodgers too and started over with Love and 12 premium draft picks over the next 3 years.

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Esquetoi's picture

March 23, 2022 at 11:46 am

In hindsight, Adam's might've been the guy to keep, giving Love confidence in having a go to guy.

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stockholder's picture

March 19, 2022 at 12:48 pm

All gas No Brakes. Well the Tank needle is on empty here.

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Coldworld's picture

March 19, 2022 at 01:27 pm

The gas all went to Rodgers

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stockholder's picture

March 19, 2022 at 01:47 pm

I don't have a problem with that at all. He's earned it. And he will continue to earn it; "with better WRS." Notice I said better WRs. He made Adams. And he replaced Favre. He never had the talent Brady had.

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PhantomII's picture

March 19, 2022 at 02:34 pm

He had more than Brady had most of the time other than HC/GM. The only thing TB12 does reliably is "MOVE THE DAMN CHAINS".....and that seemingly "OBVIOUS" necessity to win in the NFL, especially playoffs against better teams has eluded AR12......and that is the biggest mistake he continually makes to this very day. It's common sense and AR has zero when it comes to this issue. Sadly I predict no SB unless the DEFENSE has a say in it with a couple pick sixes or such good field position a field goal wins it instead of being blocked, now since we actually opened the GB wallet and paid a good ST Coach.

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Gee's picture

March 19, 2022 at 05:04 pm

hmm you maybe right for the years 2013-16, in terms of wr. Still think they never had a better TE at any time, and as good as Lacy was, Pats always had great rb combos. Still had great visions of Franklin being the James white rb they always needed.

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Gee's picture

March 19, 2022 at 05:04 pm

Oh yeah your move the chains, is right on point.

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michaelturi's picture

March 19, 2022 at 12:49 pm

unless there is a pro-ready choice at 22, I may trade the pick for late first and a second and draft a couple of WR

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HankScorpio's picture

March 19, 2022 at 01:32 pm

I keep reading Chris Olave is the most pro-ready. I'd be thrilled with him at 22. It's anybody's guess whether he'll be there. Drake London and Treylon Burks are other options, it would seem. The DIC is all over the map on ranking those 3.

Jameson Williams is an interesting case. He blew out his knee in the NCAA title game in January. Do you take him anyways, knowing he may miss his entire rookie year? Tennessee did with Jeffery Simmons at #19 overall in 2019. They did not regret it.

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stockholder's picture

March 19, 2022 at 01:50 pm

Unless Travon Walker is there. Burks should be the pick.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 19, 2022 at 04:58 pm

Not at #22 for Burks. If BG is reluctant to move up into the late teens for Olave or London, he may have a guy like Kenyon Green fill a starter's spot on the O line. Walker is top ten.

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Coldworld's picture

March 20, 2022 at 09:15 am

A top 10 pick would remove a lot of draft capital we need to fill out this roster. On a relatively brief dive into receivers, Olave looks the most ready and technically prepared, but he’s not a classic NFL body, less so a Packers one. Maybe 187 at just over 6’. Personally, I think his skills counter that, but I have a suspicion he’s going to go well before we pick.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 20, 2022 at 10:35 am

Use his skills. Everybody has been crying about a lack of a dynamic playmaker from the slot. Don't make the same mistakes as they did with the Sternberger selection with McLaurin still on the boards. He is within range, or London.

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packerbackerjim's picture

March 19, 2022 at 04:34 pm

Reports are he’s progressing quicker than expected in his recovery. I like his speed and ability to get open. He’s a little light and has a tendency to be use his body to assist in his receptions. My guess his position coach will correct it. I would be OK with either Williams or Olave.

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Coldworld's picture

March 20, 2022 at 09:22 am

He injured himself in January. Even a miraculous recovery gets him healthy in the last quarter of the season. By then he’s missed an entire preseason, had no time with Rodgers or in the system. If we were in a post Rodgers era I’d clamor to pick him for what he can be, but now, it would be spending a first round pick on a player for 2023, at least in any meaningful sense. This is not the year for Gary type picks. We need contributors from this draft and especially at WR. No to Williams please.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 19, 2022 at 04:49 pm

Watch their Film, not the cub scouts rating players on dedicated blogs. Both OSU guys, London, Pierce, fit the bill. The Bama guys may both be dinged, but nobody could put the vise on Williams last year. Stokes did on good job on that crew in 2020.

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PhantomII's picture

March 19, 2022 at 06:07 pm

I see no less than 8 WR Pro Ready.....That is our biggest need by and far. DL being our second. I predict we take 2 WR and another DL by day 2. Hopefully we pick up a vet OLB cheap.

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EnemyTerritory's picture

March 19, 2022 at 01:11 pm

Watkins and/or Westbrook at WR and Ebron or Everett at TE? All would be cheap. Failed to reach their potentials but other than Everett never had a HOF QB1. Otherwise I’d package picks and make a run at someone like Metcalf. Ridley is not available to play but might be had cheaply for 2023/2024.

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cheesehead1's picture

March 19, 2022 at 01:25 pm

Sad to see Davante leave, but at 30 years of age, 28 mil is just too much, IMO. I trust Gute and his staff will draft well and possibly another trade or FA signing.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

March 19, 2022 at 01:36 pm

I believe MVS is vital to resign unless he is unrealistic of his value. No doubt his agent smells blood in the water. I have said many times on here MVS if used differently would be a much better WR than most believe. He has deep speed but struggles with balls over his shoulder. He is at his best IMO on quick slants over the middle. He doesn't appear to struggle catching those balls in front of him with his enormous 10.5 inch hands. I hope he re-signs!

I know many will disagree but I am actually shocked the Packers let ESB go. Have always felt with injuries aside he for whatever reason never got to show his talent. Do not know what Chicago paid but one would think he would have been a bargain. It is what it is!

If they can resign MVS along with Tonyan at TE I like the WR's and TE's on the roster, but they need to invest a minimum of one top WR in draft. Sadly, they may have to use a 3rd or even a 2nd rounder bundled with one of their 1st rounders to go high enough to get one of the top tier WR's. Everyone knows the Packers desperately need a WR and teams are going to make them pay dearly to move up. There will be teams who without question will try moving up one or three picks ahead of the Packers to steal that 'one' WR the Packers covet.

With the WR aside draft DL and Edge in top rounds. A couple OL later would be nice. Maybe pick up a FA WR unless plan are to draft two WR's, which I believe with the second WR maybe about 5th round.

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stockholder's picture

March 19, 2022 at 02:17 pm

I'm surprised you want MVS signed. And Tonyan. A new direction is needed. The packers were unstoppable with Nelson, Cobb and Finley. It just shows how good Rodgers has become. = Without any of these guys equal to that trio. Adams was the hold up. They now have the means to get a Trio like that. MVS is a tease. Tonyan is hurt. And St Brown never regained his speed. They all Over-achieved because of Rodgers, and I'll include Adams. Thats what we learned. He now must replace Z. Smith And Whitney Mercelius. And he won't have money for any DL next year. Where does that put the WRs in this draft. Forget about getting a starter past the 1st round. The whole NFL knows Gutey needs WRs for Rodgers. And if they want Rodgers to retire. Draft Defense and run the ball.

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MooPack's picture

March 19, 2022 at 03:13 pm

Whomever the Packers bring in as a vet WR, if any, my belief is that it should be someone that is not selfish, not a diva, no off-field or on-field issues. Someone who is willing to be a positive teacher of rookies. Basically a team first player. A WR that will do whatever it takes to get to the SB and not interested in self accolades. I think Cobb fits that, but will they find another?

In the draft they need at least two WRs. Plug and play types. No projects no matter the greater possible ceiling. No prior injuries that need healing. The window is 2 years. Production is needed now. Rodgers has to be willing to throw to them or it's a bust.

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MEO73's picture

March 19, 2022 at 05:39 pm

Yikes! I wouldnt take anyone on that list.

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

March 19, 2022 at 06:27 pm

Everyone talking about getting this receiver or that receiver while im over saying lets just cannibalize defenses with the 3 stud rbs already on the roster. Make them fear the run then it wont matter who the receivers are cuz theyll be open a lot.

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BruceC1960's picture

March 19, 2022 at 09:52 pm

Robert Woods for a 6th round pick? Wow. Wonder what the hold up is with Jaire extension?

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

March 20, 2022 at 11:07 am

Woods also counts for 13.5 mil against the cap this year. he was never an option for GB.

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Rossonero's picture

March 19, 2022 at 10:02 pm

Marpag said it best: I'll take a pass on all these guys.

The common them amongst them all: flashy names, aging players, injury histories and in general, the arrow is pointing DOWN.

Let's get back to drafting and developing and not knee jerk reactions on trading for old, injured players.

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BruceC1960's picture

March 19, 2022 at 10:05 pm

I agree, but that is pretty attractive for a 6th round pick? We are really thin.

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Coldworld's picture

March 20, 2022 at 09:26 am

He’s unlikely to be available until late. I think we need help to start with and time to get them settled in our system.

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blondy45's picture

March 20, 2022 at 12:18 am

I believe we need youth, speed, and cheaper contracts at WR this year. We have good vets like Cobb and Lazard. MVS would be welcomed back as long as he is a reasonable price for a short-term contract.
With teams not predicted to make a run on the QB position in this year's draft, more position players are going to be drafted before pick 22. This I believe will make Gute more likely to move up to get his man this year. I myself do not like to move up, Gute does. I hope we hold our water and wait to see who is available at 22 before we move up. Sadly, I am not the GM, only a shareholder. I trust in Gute.

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

March 20, 2022 at 11:15 am

The only trade i've kinda hoped for would be for DK Metcalf. He can play the MVS role but to a whole other dimension. Hes only 24 with no major injuries and hes never even missed a game so far in his career. He's going to need a new contract next year but at his age hes worth the money. I'm usually anti-receiver-mania but this is the rare opportunity that a young hall of fame caliber player just coming into his prime would even potentially be available. I hope Gute at least inquires about him. I'm sure Rodgers would love it too.

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NickPerry's picture

March 20, 2022 at 03:33 am

The Titans just traded for Robert Woods who was one I was sorta of interested in EXCEPT for that contract he came with.

Cooks is one I'd look at. He's a FA after next year and IMO is better than MVS.

Metcalf? OMG, talk about a guy who is TAYLOR MADE for the MLF offense. The guy is ultra competitive and he really is a beast. He can do things Adams can't, like take ANY pass to the house. Adams never really had the speed for that unless he had a huge angle. D.K. Metcalf makes his own angles with his speed.

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mrtundra's picture

March 20, 2022 at 08:25 am

How much would Metcalfe cost? I think Seattle will keep him as they are in rebuild mode.

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

March 20, 2022 at 11:19 am

Probably a 1st round pick and possibly more. But think about it. Would you rather have a proven young player (hes only 24) who fits a needed role for this offense perfectly or a take the chance on a rookie whos potentially a year or two away from making an impact? Give me the proven player. Trade for Metcalf then give him however much money he wants.

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Johnblood27's picture

March 20, 2022 at 11:50 am

Give him however much money he wants?

Didn't GB just cross that bridge with DA?

What part of Sanity - in your name - is unfamiliar to you?

Besides, Metcalf seems to be an A-1 head case, not the personality I want to see in a GB uni.

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RedMN's picture

March 20, 2022 at 06:22 am

I like to listen to Ryan schlipp/packernet podcasts. As I listened to his latest entry(packer fans have reason to be optimistic) I felt my optimism eroding as he ranted about all the things the packers still have going for them and chastised those who he felt were being Debbie downers. I agree that GB needed to trade davante and felt the compensation was fair in those circumstances. He didn't want to be hear anymore and packers really didn't want to pay him all that money as they were already looking for change in between the couch cushions. There is though too many assumptions involved when I hear things will be ok and we can make our whole team better and run it back as some will say. I believed this initially but now am skeptical. Why?

Unlike years past GB is in no position to replace a star WO leaving and replacing him with a guy in the pipe. The pipe is dry. We have no Robert Brooks Antonio freeman(Sharpe) jennings driver(Walker) Nelson J Jones(Jennings) Adams(Nelson) waiting to break out. I fault the packers org. for failing to draft capable replacements and let a once steady stream of talent for many seasons evaporate. The last few years i have herd the packers experts such as Aaron Nagler(who I watch) say SEE WE DONT NEED ANY RECEIVERS! and blast those who suggest we did. WELL IT TURNS OUT WE DID! and who would have thought those cows would eventually come home but thats were the packers find themselves. The problem was the wideout room was ok today but had nothing in the cupboard for this scenario or a significant injury to davante. We had to trade the star and at the same time most of the others with experience are hitting the open market. EQ gone MVS probably gone but may need to pay a little more to get his experience back in the building. His ability to stretch the field is undervalued by some and i believe it showed vs the 9ers.Lazard back on a 1 year. Cob is 32 and most likely here for one last year . Amari Rodgers is an unknown at this point since we didnt see him get many snaps. Packers have lots of picks which is a plus but when was the last time we saw a rookie tear it up in Green bay like Jefferson did or Jamar Chase etc.

Ohh the Tight end room isn't much better.
Tonyan who is coming back for 1 year but tore up his knee and not sure when he will be healthy. Knee injuries are a concern as you can never know if they can regain the same ability post injury. I like tonyan in his role as a pass catcher but GB will need more from tonyan this year. Marcedes Lewis seems like a great guy and teammate but the dude is in his late 30s now. He hasn't been a viable receiving option in years and last year his blocking skills began to erode. Tonyan has never been and probably will never be a capable run blocker. GB would be wise to pick up another serviceable te off the street(preferably not from a walmart bargain bin)and one in the draft.

I do like the running game with the Dillon/Jones duo. However the run and pass work together to keep defenses off balance. Without one defenses will key on the other and force the packers to play to their weaknesses. Unless a team has a dominant O line that can grind down defenses it will be hard to establish a consistent running game. Packers aren't known for being dominant at run blocking but elgton Jenkins is pretty damn good. Wish GB had two more like him. I'm hoping he can come back healthy and as good as ever because he may be our best offensive lineman now.

We assume GB still have the best left tackle in football. Time will ultimately tell but after last year I wonder. I know he was injured and thats my concern. He has played in only a handful of snaps in the final reg. season game a year after his injury. Swelling in the knee caused him to leave after a few series. Hes had persistent swelling in the knee when he tried to rehab it or play on it. This was after a follow up procedure in the middle of the season to clean it out.( per reports coming out after the season).NOT GOOD! He's 30 or within a few months of, making good money and his knee at the close of the season(playoffs) wasn't close to 100 percent. He even lashed out a bit at the organization saying he felt like his knee just needed some rest but the medical staff had him continously exercising/rehabbing it.

Let's go sign someone. Ok but IMO the only names worth it are jarvis landry (who at this point in his career may not be a true number one but more a complimentary receiver to a number one) or will fuller who could replace MVS in his role while giving rodgers a more consistent target if he can remain healthy. MVS could also be considered for his experience in the system and with 12 but hopefully he isn't too expensive. Everyone else is a combo of too old/hurt/or never was that good. Julio I feel wouldn't be able to deliver what the packers need from him. Consistent play and consistently healthy.

No real issues on the D at this point. Zs injury was a bummer. I liked his character and thought he was just what that D needed. We FINALLY have a competent ILB. Kudos to Joe Barry. I can admit that I was wrong about you.

Its like its 2015 again but Rodgers is gonna be 39. The packers cannot afford him to be running around playing sandlot football this late in his career and taking shots. Its clear from watching his play he cannot run away from defenders like he used to. He can still evade guys but those lineman/backers are right on his heels when he runs I've definitely noticed it.. havent you? You get alot of weapons for aging guys like Rodgers Brady Stafford so they can sit back and find the guy quickly so they don't take those hits. Times are different with the rules but your still allowed to hit. Green bay is one crushing hit away from getting to see Love. I know its been that way for a while but now rodgers is a slower qb trying to make something happen and we have him for likely 3 more years. Sandlot Rodgers is a qb I don't want to see much anymore accept for here and there. After 2015 it seemed to me he struggled to get back to playing the position like he used to. Lafleur and Co. As well as Rodgers himself got his play back in 2019 but he wasn't the same even when Nelson came back from his injury that next season in 2016. 2017 and 18 he had a collarbone injury ,concussion and probably forgetting other injuries he had as sandlot rodgers.

In closing I will say that I believe the packers wideout and tight end rooms will need more than a later round pick a year to replenish the pipeline. They will need multiple high picks(1st 2nd) in the long term and signing a FA in the short to repair the damage/neglect of the last several years now. This is a multi year task and may not be fixed in time for next year. Packers seem stuck a bit in between running it back and a rebuild. Rodgers is still here for a few more seasons but he has no real weapons to throw to at this time. Hopefully there is a plan and hopefully I am wrong. GPG

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Coldworld's picture

March 20, 2022 at 09:44 am

A lot to unpack, but with the exception of Landry (a pure slot) and Fuller (an injury in waiting), I find myself largely agreeing.

The decision to pay Rodgers is somewhat odd in the context of a WR corps of Lazard, Cobb and whom? Paying that much money to anyone suggests they are to be the difference maker. Good though Rodgers is, he does need catchers to work with. It does suggest a plan built more out of desperation than cool strategy.

Adams’ trade may be an illustration of that or it may be that there is a plan we don’t know about to fix the blatant contradiction. It’s up to Gute now to show, but if it’s just rookies, that’s not a plan but a prayer. I still feel he’s operating in the context of a Murphy enforced decision, but whether I am wrong or right, if we don’t have a good receiving corps and depth, the overall strategy looks like a self defeating contradiction.

If it’s the D that’s our savior (and it’s looking far stronger than the O at this point), paying 50 million to a QB is daft. Contradictions result from incoherent strategy. There are many. Perhaps Gute will prove us both wrong. If not, we are paying mightily for a blighted future after let downs that may seem obvious in retrospect. Over to you Gute: pull something unforeseen out of the hat for this year.

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

March 20, 2022 at 11:21 am

THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!

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Coldworld's picture

March 20, 2022 at 12:19 pm

Chicken Licken?

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Johnblood27's picture

March 20, 2022 at 11:55 am

Did you copyright this? Get it bound? When is the tour?

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mrtundra's picture

March 20, 2022 at 08:28 am

I would like to see the Packers use their newly acquired draft picks on actual draftees. With two 1st round picks, we can put Drake London, Chris Olave or Treylon Burks in play, for the Packers. In a post Davante mock I did, I was able to draft both London and Olave with those two 1st round picks. That would go a long ways to filling the WR spots left by Davante, ESB and maybe MVS, if Gute doesn't go after him. Later in the 5th round, in at least two other mocks, Combine speedster, Tyquan Thornton was available. Think of him as a cheaper MVS with all the speed and then think of him as a STs gunner. That could happen and I think Bisaccia would love to see that speed in Green and Gold, on his STs. I would stay away from OBJr as he tore his ACL and probably won't see the field until this December. That's too long to wait for WR help. Woods or Fuller would be my choices of the WRs listed in the video, but I think the cheaper, and better way to go, is through the draft. With the capital we now have, thanks to the Raiders taking Davante, we have an opportunity to get two, maybe three solid WRs who can contribute immediately to GB's success. GO PACK, GO!

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Norm's picture

March 20, 2022 at 04:45 pm

Maybe it’s time to have a dominant D and an okay offense. Peyton Manning won a Super Bowl that way. We have two blue chip backs, a solid o line and marginal WR and TE (pending Tonyan’s comeback) position groups. Pair that with a dominant D and we can win a lot of 17-14 type games.

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WestWi_Packfan's picture

March 20, 2022 at 09:37 pm

I'm not really too thrilled with the WR FA group this year for what the Packers can afford, if they don't re-sign MVS, I would be considering 2 WR with their first 3 draft picks. The talent pool this year is especially deep and we could easily have 1 starter and 1 part time contributor who could play special teams. A veteran could still be signed after the draft if they feel they need one, but I would not spend big and create the type of $$ problems you just got rid of with Adams.

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