What went wrong on the Offensive Line?

What caused Sunday's historically poor preformance?

On Sunday, Packers fans everywhere were treated to a monumental collapse, in which a struggling Browns offense was able to score 13 points in the last 3:38 of the fourth quarter. Up until that point, the defense was able to pitch a shutout, hold the Browns to less than 200 yards, and generally remain mistake-free. 

The offense? Well…

When you’ve got an offense that is as high-volatility as the Packers is, the name of the game is setting the floor. We’ve seen everything from the offense during the Jordan Love-Matt LaFleur era, from the sky-high pummeling of Dallas in the playoffs in 2023, to… well, this game. Jordan Love is a rhythm quarterback with one of the best arms in the game. . Josh Jacobs is capable of taking games over, and it looks like the receiver room has found its sea legs, led by emerging superstar Tucker Kraft. The floor setters are the offensive line, and with as many resources that the Packers have poured into that room over the years, they were unacceptably out-performed on Sunday. 

The raw numbers are *bad. Like, *really bad. Via PFF’s individual player grading: Rasheed Walker: 34.1, Jordan Morgan: 40.7, Aaron Banks: 40.9, Elgton Jenkins: 44.6, Anthony Belton: 41.6 and Sean Rhyan 54.3. Five penalties for the unit as a whole. Six sacks, eleven hurries, and seventeen pressures. 2.6 yards per rush. Before this game, the Packers were a top-10 team in pass blocking efficiency, but Sunday was such a historically bad performance that the team now ranks *30th. 

So what went wrong? As the Packers players have admitted to themselves, sometimes the only thing that can stop the Packers is themselves. And against the Cleveland Browns on Sunday, that statement was put to the test. 

We’ve got internal and external factors to consider here. First up, the injuries. 

It’s clear to anyone and everyone that Zach Tom was not ready to play in this game. On the very first snap of the game, the Packers’ best offensive lineman was on the ground, clutching his injured oblique. It was reminiscent of Jaire Alexander’s rushed return to play last year, when he also re-injured himself on the first drive.

While there may be plenty of blame to go around for the way Tom was returned from injury after only a week of rest, it’s impossible (and reckless) to assign that blame as fans. We don’t have access to the medical data that the team does, and even if we did, what would any of us know what to do with it? It’s easy to say the Packers should have rested Tom and Banks for another week, but that’s said with the benefit of hindsight. The team’s medical staff, coaches, and Tom himself had to all agree that he was capable of playing in this game, and they were wrong. 

Later on in the game, Aaron Banks also left the game, albeit with a different injury (groin) than the one he had been recovering from since week one (ankle). 

Being down two starters in any NFL game would be a difficult task to overcome. But, the Packers were supposed to be uniquely positioned to deal with those exact circumstances. Waiting on the bench was a first round pick and a second round pick, and a recent trade acquisition. The Packers *have the depth. It just didn’t play well. 

Jordan Morgan was first off the bench, and was inserted into the right tackle spot, for the first time in his entire career. He had *never played right tackle before Sunday, in his entire career. It’s clear that the team’s vision for Morgan is a swing tackle, first man off the bench. But the decision to go with Morgan over Belton (who they had just taken to play on the right side) and Kinnard (who was traded for, to play on the right side) is a head scratcher. What’s done is done, but the fact of the matter is that when Morgan was playing right tackle, he was instantly the weak link. 

Morgan committed three false start penalties when at right tackle, and over the course of the game allowed a sack, two hurries and three pressures. The two other penalties were committed by Rasheed Walker, on the other side of the line. When Morgan was later moved to left guard, there was a smoothing out from him for the rest of the game, but by that time the damage had already been done. When Belton entered the game at right tackle, he also struggled for a majority of the game, and Kinnard was only allowed on the field for four snaps. 

So, the depth didn’t help the line in this game. But what about the starters? The Packers line is uniquely battle tested, despite being a younger unit (like the team as a whole). Elgton Jenkins is a seven year, Pro Bowl right tackle. Rasheed Walker, Aaron Banks and Sean Rhyan and multi-year starters, and can comfortably be called veterans at this point. How do they look so shell shocked? How is it that two weeks ago, the same players handled the Detroit Lions and Aiden Hutchinson so easily? It’s time to look at the external factors. 

I went back and watched every snap of the offensive line. The Packers OL did manage to win some reps. There were clean pockets (especially on the last drive). A couple of holes to run through. But by and large? That Cleveland defensive line might be the best in the league. 

Over and over, their unit just overpowered ours. The offensive line was by and large unable to beat their man to the blocking point in the run game, or unable to parse out exactly how the Browns were going to attack them in the pass rush. I saw lots of confusion on blocking assignments, and lots of poor execution when the team was trying to set up the long developing passing concepts that killed the Lions and Commanders. When the offense was unable to get those going, the quick passing game was only mildly effective, and I thought the Browns’ cornerbacks did a great job of keeping receivers covered long enough to force Love into checkdown throws. 

I’ve seen a lot of blame assigned to Matt LaFleur in the loss, and I certainly agree that the offense as a whole was not prepared for exactly what they would be facing on Sunday, and certainly not prepared for how the offensive line rotation should have shaken out once Tom went down on the first drive. The game preparation was poor. 

But I’d also point out that once that dynamic is established in the game, and the OL can’t run block or pass block, where do you go on the playsheet? There’s no gameplan for that, no “break in case offensive line can’t block” emergency case. Moving to a quick passing game was the only thing to do. Love did a good job of taking what the defense was offering, and played the role he had to, until he didn’t. Credit Grant Delphit for his game turning interception, but Love and Wicks were clearly in miscommunication about that play. 

Obviously, the driver of the bus for Cleveland is Myles Gaarrett, and he deserves every ounce of credit he’ll get for this performance. While watching the film however, a player who *really jumped out at me was Browns’ rookie linebacker Carson Schwesinger. He plugged every hole in the run game, made athletic plays in the pass game and was the player running Love down on that sack to end the third quarter. He’s a real piece to this Cleveland defense, along with first round pick Mason Graham on the interior defensive line.  

The Packers were simply caught off guard on Sunday, and for better or worse had certain weaknesses exposed for the entire NFL to see. The offense will need to rebound in major fashion for a matchup with a historic rival in Dallas, with new, fresh, personal stakes on the line for both sides. While much will rightfully be made of Micah Parsons’ return, you can absolutely bet Kenny Clark knows how to exploit our offensive line as well as anyone. With a three way tie at the top of the NFC North, getting another win in the conference will be essential to tie-breakers down the line.

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NFLfan's picture

September 24, 2025 at 09:57 am

Beating a weaker team like Dallas won't fix the problem. Packers will likely come out and establish dominance by giving them a big (symbolic) thrashing. How about showing up against real Defensive teams? I don't think the Packers have the horses nor the Offensive coaches. (I've been saying this for months-neither Butkus nor Stenavich (as a run-caller) inspire confidence and MLF had all off-season to make upgrades.) His refusal to make personnel change is what is most utterly frustrating and why I am ready to see him go. Gute has contributed as well.

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Ihappydirt's picture

September 24, 2025 at 04:54 pm

"How about showing up against real Defensive teams?"

You mean like throttling Detroit in Week 1? Most NFL fans would consider the Lions as having a "real" defense.

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BELIEVER's picture

September 24, 2025 at 10:20 am

The head scratcher for me was why wasn't Kinnard inserted at right tackle. Against the Lions Kinnard was filling in. To put Morgan in and then leave him there as he was getting beat badly was stubborn. Unable to make a change until another injury for what? To prove a point, like look how great our first round pick is. Put the players in and stop shuffling, your 5 best offensive line might not be the best 5 in the wrong positions. To many head games.

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Guam's picture

September 24, 2025 at 10:29 am

Not the first time Steno/Butkus have made bad O-line decisions. Versatility is fine to a point, but you also have to practice where you play. Putting Morgan at RT was a poor decision compounded by leaving him there too long. Steno/Butkus have bought into this versatility thing to far too great an extent.

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crayzpackfan's picture

September 24, 2025 at 11:35 am

I have never liked the "versatility" thing in GB to THIS extent. There are too many square pegs for depth at OL with too many round holes to fill. Drafting and developing this way exclusively, only runs the risk of having players who are so so at everything while never being great at one thing. I have said this here before to a collective thumbs down festival. I'm wrong about enough things in life. but I don't think this is one of them. They basically forced Jenkins to play C. He didn't seem all that happy about it either and it shows. Then they trade for a RT and instead put in a year two player who has never played at RT (square peg into a round hole). I rarely ever know who is playing where on the OL while watching the games. It's musical chairs out there with zero continuity. Plus when they sub healthy OL players in and out, what is that? I never see that in NFL games. It's like they are using an entire regular season to learn what they have. Shouldn't that be decided in the pre season?

Until we start drafting stud guards and centers who played it all through college and develop them as such as well as tackles, we can expect more of this. It's nice to have like two OL guys who can play wherever and that should be a normal approach. But trying to do this with an entire line only means you don't have anyone at their true position.

I still have faith in this being a winning team this year, but I have little faith that we are a SB contender with the way this OL has been drafted and coached. I'm not feeling our OC or OL coach at all here. That part ends up at MLF's door.

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blacke00's picture

September 25, 2025 at 07:05 am

I have said this in the past (although I don't post much), The most important "pieces" in an offensive line are the center and 2 guards...not the tackles! The key, as in chess or any team sport is to control the "4 center squares". If you control the LOS at that point you control the game. In any battle you put your best soldiers at the "point of the spear". Why football teams don't follows this age old paradigm is beyond me.

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UnoMyName's picture

September 24, 2025 at 06:05 pm

"... your 5 best offensive line might not be the best 5 in the wrong positions."

Spot on with this point Believer

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mnbadger's picture

September 24, 2025 at 10:27 am

It seems as though both coordinators have been elevated above their readiness levels.
I've been saying the same about mlf for a few years now.
Give Morgan a position designation, train him hard there and make him earn PT. He'll be fine if given a chance to succeed.
GPG!

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Guam's picture

September 24, 2025 at 10:31 am

Hafley is elevated above his readiness level? Good Lord the Packers have the #1 ranked defense in the league in points allowed per game. How much more do you expect him to do?

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Coldworld's picture

September 24, 2025 at 10:38 am

I read it as referencing Stenavich and Bissacia. Certainly you are right about Hafley thus far.

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NFLfan's picture

September 24, 2025 at 10:52 am

Agree

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LambeauPlain's picture

September 24, 2025 at 11:00 am

I read it as "both coordinators" being MLF and Stenovich, because the OC during the week installs and during game days is MLF while Steno holds the title.

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mnbadger's picture

September 24, 2025 at 09:54 pm

Sorry for the confusion, but Imeant steno as OC and butkus as OL coach.
Only steno is a coordinator.
My mistake.
GPG!

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Guam's picture

September 25, 2025 at 07:34 am

Apologies mnbadger for my over the top take on your mistake. Should have realized you did not mean Hafley. Sorry.....
GPG!

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Cheezehead72's picture

September 24, 2025 at 10:31 am

Not sure what you mean by both coordinators. Stenovich is OC in name only. MLF is the actual OC. I believe MLF would be a very good OC if he was not the HC. Hafley is a very good DC. He might be an HC next year. Now if you mean Bisaccia who is the ST Coordinator you got a point.

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mnbadger's picture

September 24, 2025 at 10:34 am

Could we bring in a special assistant to teach our offensive staff and players how to perform a simple snap of the football in loud environments?
Mlf, butkus, stenovich are using the same technique my HS team did in 1979!
Only difference, we executed it better.
WT holy F?!
GPG

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vagem55's picture

September 24, 2025 at 10:39 am

Elgton Jenkins is a seven year, Pro Bowl left guard.
As for Morgan, do you think he practiced all week at right tackle with Tom listed day to day?

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Coldworld's picture

September 24, 2025 at 11:34 am

Tom was limited per the reports, so some of the reps presumably but certainly not all.

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dblbogey's picture

September 24, 2025 at 10:39 am

Morgan is a left tackle. His game is quick feet and finesse. Rasheed is gone next year, since we can't afford him after, for reasons unknown, we gave Aaron Bank $77 million. I think Morgan can replace Rasheed next year, but Morgan isn't big or strong enough to play inside. They had Belton and Kinnard to choose from for RT, so of course they went with Morgan who has never played the position. Duh?

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BuckyBadger's picture

September 24, 2025 at 10:41 am

The author is right that when you OL is failing at all levels your playbook gets wrecked in the process. The knee jerk reaction of the fans will always to blame the coach. He should have prepared them better will be their lazy assessment. You loose two starters and your QB has the yips. I counted at least 3 short passes miss their mark entirely. So to recap the coaching staff is down two starters, can't pass block, can't run block and your QB is missing short throws.

The sky isn't falling on this team. It was one loss vs an AFC team. The problems are fixable as the OL gets healthy and plays together more. I fully trust the coaching staff to make adjustments needed to get them running the ball and pass blocking better. We have seen those types of problems get fixed before. Had a lot of changes in those areas and Cleveland had the personnel to exploit it early in the season. Good news is they won't face Garret again.

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T7Steve's picture

September 24, 2025 at 01:18 pm

They had two starting O-line down for the Washington game too. The same two. Why did they play so much better? Was this because it was the first away game? Did the crowd have that much effect on the O-line?

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Coldworld's picture

September 24, 2025 at 10:42 am

Boil it down, article and comments, and it’s offensive and ST coaching first and last. It’s time to just call it openly. The D aside the issues on both O and ST are revenants from prior years and rosters and unacceptable. Theres no credible other place to look at the results for those two units overall. The defensive performance has just highlighted the failings more cruelly.

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NFLfan's picture

September 24, 2025 at 11:18 am

There has been little in the way of taking a deep dive into quality of what Butkus or Stenavich bring to the table. It seems to be a forbidden topic. It's not only Butkus/Steno, it's the entire Offensive staff-the 'Thin, Green Line'.
I get the sense that local sports media have been warned to stay away from those discussions.

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splitpea1's picture

September 24, 2025 at 12:24 pm

"How come the special teams suck every year, Mr. Bisaccia?" might get you a session on the rack.

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TarynsEyes's picture

September 24, 2025 at 11:04 am

The Offensive line was an issue since the end of last season, the off-season, preseason and was an issue, if not the top issue, of discussion.

Every OL men has been propped up above his actual ability, the moving from position to position, under the guise of versatility, which is a necessity, but how many actual own a position, and a question I've asked numerous times. The starters are average, and when needed to be shuffled, they are less than average.

Sure, they may look like Cowboy killers this week, who hasn't, but that will set up more denial as to what they are for real.

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Leatherhead's picture

September 24, 2025 at 11:28 am

Don't you think you could at least wait until our starters get to practice and play together for a week or two?

Seriously. Let's wait until we can line up Walker, Banks, Jenkins, Rhyan and Tom .

When Philadelphia, at home, beat Dallas 24-20, did that mean anything? Because you don't seem to think it means much if we do.

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NFLfan's picture

September 24, 2025 at 12:02 pm

@LH-It was a relief to not have to deal with your and several of the other 'usual' harrassing commentors on Sunday (when it was hitting the fan) which leads me to believe you and they only 'work' M-F-hmmm

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TarynsEyes's picture

September 24, 2025 at 12:06 pm

Were you crying/worried about the OL after Det and Was (Walking Dead) games to wait a week or two, no. You and many others just reveled in the wins, ignoring what was to become an issue that was exposed in Cleveland.

The OL group as a whole is a C+ grade, with the ability to rate higher depending on the lacking of the opponent's Defense. Can it get better, sure, and I hope so, but overrated play against teams that weren't ready, as you claim now for the Packers, works both ways.

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NFLfan's picture

September 24, 2025 at 12:05 pm

@TE-
Don't let LH's hostile comments stop you from commenting.

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LambeauPlain's picture

September 24, 2025 at 11:05 am

"Before this game, the Packers were a top-10 team in pass blocking efficiency, but Sunday was such a historically bad performance that the team now ranks *30th."

I wonder what Eberflus will do with this information, watching the Packers/Browns game tape?

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TarynsEyes's picture

September 24, 2025 at 11:27 am

It's obvious that the top 10 was based on the poor play of the first two opponents, then reality comes into play against an above average Defense. Stats are easily manipulated to make bad seem good, good seem great, but scrutiny will always show the truth.

It's one thing to have a bad game, but that was horrendous, but the top 10 ranking has a great chance to be achieved against another terrible Defense of the Cowboys.

Never trust entirely the rankings.

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LambeauPlain's picture

September 24, 2025 at 12:00 pm

"Never trust entirely the rankings." I don't. I entirely trust the W/L record.

I do look at trends, and over time...the trend can be your friend, and sometimes a valuable task master.

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TarynsEyes's picture

September 24, 2025 at 12:14 pm

Even the W/L record can't be trusted, as last year's 11-6 record ignored the zero wins against winning teams, and a 1-5 record against the Division with a fingertip save of having two losses against the BEARS for the full sweep.

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barutanseijin's picture

September 24, 2025 at 02:29 pm

What will the All Seeing, All Powerful Eberflus, descendent of the Mighty Bears cook up against our Packers?

Something ineffectual and incompetent, that’s what.

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NFLfan's picture

September 24, 2025 at 11:25 am

I believe Butkus leaked that he was concerned about the lack of OL depth.

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Coldworld's picture

September 24, 2025 at 12:47 pm

He said it openly though in the context of the IOL I believe. The real question is, however, to what extent is he the horse that delivered that load?

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HarryHodag's picture

September 24, 2025 at 12:24 pm

The theory of having interchangeable players along a line looks good on paper, but with the complexity of today's defenses that approach leads to miscommunication and lack of continuity.

Injuries are a part of the NFL but I again have to wonder about whether the Packers have a chronic problem. I've complained about a few players in the past(Watson), but how is it so many linemen are hurt? Banks has hardly played, Tom hasn't had much of an injury problem until this year.

This is clearly evident in Josh Jacobs' numbers. The defenses are stacking to stop the run true, but the holes just aren't there like the past. I wonder if the whole line got weaker when Jenkins moved to center. He was an all-star at guard. Morgan is a left tackle. Sean Rhyan is just average.

One old-timer who I know who was around the game said today's players are more prone to injury not only because of the size and speed of today's players, but also because the athletes over-train. He said they don't get enough down time to let their bodies heal properly. One opinion but it might make some sense.

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Vachio's picture

September 24, 2025 at 12:55 pm

What DIDN'T go wrong? Arguably our biggest improvement on the OL - replacing Myers with Jenkins - went...poorly. Jenkins was getting absolutely whipped play after play. I remember seeing his PFF score and thinking it was way too high. So many times, I said "Who was that getting whipped like that?" and I'd rewind to get a better look at the jersey and see it was #74. Even on plays when his man didn't get the sack or the pressure, he was often getting abused and looking totally lost.

But, he was not alone. The same was true for everyone else on the line as well. We really needed a bigger woodshed for them.

What's weird about it is both the Lions and Commanders have good defensive fronts. We did well against them. The Browns are several notches better, sure, but not so much so that they should have gotten whipped as thoroughly as they did.

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stockholder's picture

September 24, 2025 at 01:27 pm

It sure does look like a Mismanagement of OL skill.
And it started at Center-
I never wanted Jenkins moved. Gute DID!
So now we have taken a All-Pro G, and didn't
put him in the best position to succeed.
Isn't that the obvious?
"Putting a player in the best position to succeed"
After three games this year, Jenkins has a
58.5 overall PFF grade, with a 51.5 pass blocking grade
and a 58.3 run blocking grade.
If this staff continues to underutilize him/others.
And keep putting them in situations that highlight their weaknesses.
Expect the wall to crumble and Jenkins to burn out.
My hope is they move Jenkins back to LG
where he has a 70 - 80 pff grade.
The back up center needs to start.

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packergal's picture

September 24, 2025 at 02:42 pm

SH, when did Gute start making decisions on who plays what position? I believe the responsibility rests with HC (MLF) and his assistants.

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stockholder's picture

September 24, 2025 at 03:17 pm

It's suppose to rest with the coach.
But when they didn't sign Myers
or draft his replacement early.
Jenkins was forced to move.
Jenkins wanted more money to switch.
They signed bonds instead.
Bonds should be the RG IMO.

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Coldworld's picture

September 24, 2025 at 05:38 pm

Josh Myers has a 67 grade from PFF this year. That’s on a pretty awful team. His run blocking had been his strong point too. That’s far better than he ever managed here. It’s much better than Jenkins has managed (58, also with the run as his strength). It’s a small sample, but, if anything it only turns the spotlight on our coaches and system more brightly.

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Snap the ball's picture

September 24, 2025 at 05:48 pm

Should have kept Myers moved him to right guard and moved Rhyan to center and saved 77 million on banks

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Snap the ball's picture

September 24, 2025 at 05:50 pm

Put Jenkins back at guard since banks is out and Morgan right guard Rhyan center ..

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NFLfan's picture

September 24, 2025 at 05:53 pm

After an eternity, GB finally pulled the plug on Rebrovich and Barry and guess what?-Defense and DL got better-much better.

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