Will the Packers Regret Giving Aaron Rodgers a New Contract?

Earlier in the year, The Green Bay Packers came to a decision which surprised some. They signed a contract with Aaron Rodgers, extending his stay. But that was not all. Not only did the contract extend his stay, but it also made him the highest-paid player in current football. Now, with the NFL season in full swing, some Packers fans are wondering if this was such a good idea after all.

Who is Aaron Rodgers?

Aaron Rodgers is one of the best football quarterbacks playing today and of all-time. He has played his entire professional career with the Green Bay Packers, with whom he has been through some great and some not-so-great times. Rodgers set and still holds a few records, including the lowest single-season rate of interceptions.

With so much success and praise under his belt, the question becomes “How can Aaron Rodgers be a liability to the Green Bay Packers?” And the answer is simple. The success and praise might be a bit too much.

What is the Issue?

As football is becoming more popular around the world, as demonstrated by betting sites like bet365 legal in Canada, Australia, New Guinea, etc. As the sport grows globally, some of the star football players are developing large egos and demanding more from their teams. In-and-of itself, this is not a problem. It only becomes bad when their demands become a detriment for the teams they play for.

And it seems this is the problem. Back in March, when the news first broke, certain people believed that the Packers’ decision will ultimately lead to their downfall. And now, in October, with the NFL season almost halfway in, this prediction could be playing out.

Some very well-known NFL commentators made statements that boiled down to “Aaron Rodgers is a liability, because he wants too much money.” And the money part is true. Aaron Rodgers is now the highest paid player in the NFL. But he is also one of the best. So, the question is, are you getting what you paid for?

The Regret?

Well, it seems that the answer is no. The Green Bay Packers are in the midst of a four game losing streak. The team went from one of the top odds to make it to the Super Bowl, to a team averaging just 18.1 points per game. It would seem like all the faith they put into Mr. Rodgers has not paid off.

But is it really the fault of Aaron Rodgers that the Green Bay Packers are stagnating? Well, in complete honesty, no. Aaron Rodgers is a fantastic quarterback. The problem is, the Green Bay Packers thrust all of the responsibility on his shoulders when they made him the highest-paid footballer today. And one man cannot carry a whole team.

The real fault lies in Packers management, who made the decision to wager so much money on one Ace card, rather than spread their bets over a whole hand. In other words, more of an effort should have been placed on strengthening the overall team, rather than hedging all their bets on their star. So, ultimately, the fault may have been with the Packers organization from the very beginning.

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ArlenWilliams's picture

November 04, 2022 at 04:07 am

I've found the Packers the most interesting team in the world since I was not yet a man, and I often stay up at night. But when I do, it's not out of worry for Aaron Rodgers.

He stays thirsty, my friend.

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jvole's picture

November 04, 2022 at 04:54 am

I suspect they already do. And it's untrue that they have not invested elsewhere, they just have not invested in wide receiver until it was too late and Davante left.

I'm tired of reading about Rodgers as the GOAT. Fourth and goal in the Super Bowl; who do you want Brady or Rodgers? One will throw it to the open receiver that he has not ignored all season and the other will throw it to his double covered security blanket. The former is how you win Super Bowls.

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NickPerry's picture

November 04, 2022 at 05:34 am

You don't need to look any further than in January 2018 when Mark Murphy changed the role of the Packers team President and became part of the power structure. When Ron Wolf was hired Bob Harlon gave him COMPLETE AUTHORITY over football operations. That all changed when Murphy decided he wanted to PLAY NFL owner and have everyone reporting to him.

Is Gute blameless in this mess at 1265? Nope, not even close. But I have to feel for the guy a little. He FINALLY gets his dream job, GM of the Green Bay Packers only to have that moron Murphy change what had made this franchise so successful. ONE MAN, the GM of the GB Packers had complete authority. Gute had to try and build a team to win now while they had Rodgers, and for the future.

There's not a doubt in my mind Mark Murphy was the SOLE reason for that Aaron Rodgers contract. Gutes idea was clear, draft Love and hope it was the right pick and build a team around him. It may not have been the smartest pick, but I'm sure Gute was thinking the 2017, 2018, and 2019 versions of Aaron Rodgers weren't special by any stretch. You can't build a team for the future and not shit all over the present when your QB is 39 and you give him $50 million a year AND push your cap into the future.

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HarryHodag's picture

November 04, 2022 at 08:53 am

Nick,
Being a not-for-profit the Packers have a board of directors and within that an executive committee. Those are the folks who picked Murphy to run the team and with his continuing employment tacitly support his actions.

Another thing to remember is all the losing teams also have people who have complete authority over football operations. Some executives are better than others.

In the end it's talent and coaching.

Regarding Rodgers the team felt obligated to keep one of their heroes even though common sense said giving him more money was an extreme risk. What is worse is he views himself and untouchable and it has to be 'his' team or he's going to pout. It is his team and we see the results.

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Johnblood27's picture

November 04, 2022 at 10:39 am

Harry, you ignorant slut (in my best Dan Akroyd voice)...

Nobody hired mark murphy to run the football operations of the green bay packers.

get that straight. it just did not happen.

MM was hired to take the place of retiring team president robert Harlan, one of the best of all time.

Harlan was one of the best because he took ownership of the business of the green bay packers and made a whole lot of good decisions. NOT because he impacted the football operations of the team outside of hiring a very competent general manager, namely ron wolf, and letting him have the authority he needed to do his job effectively.

when mm took ownership of ANY aspect of the football operations he stumbled into the morass we are now slogging through of poor leadership and ambiguous role definition within the football side of the organization.

the green bay packers have NEVER been successful when the bod was calling the football shots. Let me repeat that. THE GBP HAVE NEVER BEEN SUCCESSFUL ON THE FOOTBALL SIDE OF THE TEAM WHEN THE BOD-PRESIDENT WAS CALLING THE FOOTBALL SHOTS.

mm was within his realm to pursue Titletown, that is business, not football. If he would have kept his nose out of on-the-field operations the team would be better off precisely because there would be adequate leadership power and authority in the leaders that the players interact with every day.

Gutey should have hired a coach after McCarthy was canned.

That coach should have been given complete authority over all game operations and the QB told to work together accordingly.

MM's interference with Guteys role as head man in football operations has led to the clusterfuk we see today. Some of us could see it coming and have been speaking out about the morass of BG-MLF-AR and confused authority and roles. It has come home to roost.

There is more, of course, but this is windy enough. The coaching hiring process when MLF was brought in and the role of Russ ball needs to be inserted as does the musical chairs bullshit that resulted in a prime example of the peter principle we are seeing with the GB coaching staff right now. Maybe in another windy post...

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NickPerry's picture

November 05, 2022 at 02:28 am

Hey JB27.... Thank you for saying this SO perfectly! I would have enjoyed reading even more wind!! LOL

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Coldworld's picture

November 04, 2022 at 05:30 pm

Who controls nominations for executive board positions? Mark Murphy. They are his people. The President role worked because he wasn’t in the football sphere, so he was not part of any football issues after Harlen and the Board became more removed. Murphy changed that and now the culprit in chief has an executive board reliant on him while he’s part of the problem. All is not well In Lambeau.

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Since'75's picture

November 05, 2022 at 02:30 pm

Nick Perry...has it mostly correct.

Ron Wolf had the by-laws changed so the GM has authority over everything related to football operations.
In 2018 Mark Murphy changed them back, to where he has complete authority.
In essence...Putting training wheels on Brian Gutekunst.
The problem is, Murphy had/has no prior football operations experience at all.
Which was evident, when anything Ted did, Ted did it without question.
Murphy said say himself, he didn't interfere, Ted ran the football show, and Murphy built a slide and a hot chocolate stand.

Now....it's fair to assume that Gute/Murphy, both planned for a QB change. Murphy had to give the ok.
Especially when they knew drafting Love...was going to piss Rodgers off, instead of drafting a receiver.
They had definite plans to replace Rodgers, and we all knew it.
BUT...plans changed along the way. Either because of Rodgers MVP play, or because they didn't like what they saw in Love.
My guess it was because of both reasons.
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As far as Rodgers contract, i again...think that was both Murphy/Gute..in agreement.

Now Gute continued to build the team he wanted through the years, draft for a top 5 defense, and a strong running game.
The problem with that is, you don't need a 50 million dollar QB, you just need a good game manager for QB. Think Trent Dilfer.
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So where are we now...we have an underperforming 2022 draft of 1st and 2nd round picks.
It could be argued that 4th round pick Doubs, has out performed the first 3 picks....combined.
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So now we have O line issues, a receiving room with no #1 or #2 receiver, 2 rookies, a has been, and a never been.
Aaron Rodgers is good enough to over come a bad O line, even overcome a empty receiving room.
BUT....he can't overcome both at the same time.
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The problems you see on the field, are largely due to upper level mismanagement and bad decision making.
I'm sorry, but you have a former 1st round pick sitting on the bench for 3 years that you traded up for (instead of a player, contributing on the field for that same time.)..... and then.....you guarantee your QB 150 million.
I call that a upper management cluster.... <-----you know what i mean.

Something(s) went wrong with the strategic brain trust upstairs.

The Circus is still in town.

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HarryHodag's picture

November 04, 2022 at 08:57 am

Aaron Rodgers is the best player in the NFL? Have you heard of Josh Allen? P. Mahomes? I could go on but that would be silly.
I also challenge your assertion that the current problem is not Aaron Rodgers fault. It is his fault. Not in his play as much as the money he demanded, the personnel changes he demanded and the idea that he had to have input on the decisions made by others.

We see the result of that.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

November 05, 2022 at 11:36 am

Harry,
Here is a hug via the internet my friend!

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Since&#039;75's picture

November 05, 2022 at 02:57 pm

Do you know for fact, that Rodgers demanded 150 million from the Packers Harry?
Were you there, do you have 1st hand knowledge?
Allrighty then.

The Packers current problems are Rodgers fault Harry tells us.

Interesting....I didn't know Rodgers built the roster?
Did Rodgers put a gun to the Packers head and say..."Give me 150 million...or else!!
Did Rodgers draft Wyatt, Walker, and trade up for Watson?
Did Rodgers draft all these blown 3rd round picks since 2018?
Did Rodgers trade up and draft a 1st round QB to sit on the bench for 3 years instead of a wide receiver who could be helping us today, instead of watching Love sitting on the bench collecting his 12 million.
Does Rodgers run this team, make all the roster decisions?
Is Rodgers in charge of the salary cap?
Does Rodgers keep redoing contracts and pushing money down the road?
Was Rodgers so busy the last 4 years building the defensive roster, that he plum forgot about the receiver room?

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So everything that ails the Packer is Rodgers fault?

If any of that is true, then Murphy and Gute should be immediately walked out the door for ineptness and not having a spine.

Harry, if someone gave you a contract with 150 million guaranteed, would you sign it?

Yea....so would i, in a heartbeat.

C'MON MAN!!

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Guam's picture

November 04, 2022 at 09:04 am

I've said much of this in other posts, so apologies for the repeat, but the Packers were bucking long odds in signing Rodgers to this contract. The vast majority of modern era quarterbacks have retired by age 40. Marino, Montana, Young, Simms, McMahon, etc. etc. - the list goes on and on and all hung it up by 40. The only QBs to play at 40 and beyond are Brady, Brees, both Mannings and Rothlisberger. Only Brady played beyond 40 without visible signs of decline.

So the Packers bet the farm that their 38/39 year old QB would be the next Brady and not be like every other QB in the history of the NFL. Making the decision worse was the apparent king's ransom they could have extracted from Denver had they chosen to trade him rather than resign him. Along with the John Hadl trade, this will go down as one of the worst decisions in Packer history. Thank you, Mark "We're not idiots" Murphy.

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T7Steve's picture

November 04, 2022 at 09:15 am

Wasn't Favre over 40 too? Maybe he shouldn't count?

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Johnblood27's picture

November 04, 2022 at 10:43 am

favre was never 40 with Green Bay

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Guam's picture

November 04, 2022 at 11:39 am

For some strange reason, I did not look Farve up to confirm when he retired. Good catch! Including him doesn't really change the point however as Favre joins both Mannings, Brees and Rothlisberger in the "declining quickly in the 40's" category.

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Johnblood27's picture

November 04, 2022 at 10:43 am

equating rodgers signing with the hadl trade is pure genius Guam.

further equating the bungling of mLf and Bg to Dan Devine as GM-Coach has the ring of truth.

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Coldworld's picture

November 04, 2022 at 05:34 pm

LaFleur is Rhodes or Infante but with a hall of fame QB.

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Johnblood27's picture

November 05, 2022 at 07:21 am

Rhodes had a hall of fame QB!

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

November 05, 2022 at 11:40 am

Guam,
Geeez.....I also want to send you an internet hug today along with Harry. Awesome post my friend!

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croatpackfan's picture

November 05, 2022 at 12:22 pm

Do you know who will use the sentence "We are not idiots!" ?

IDIOT

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Since&#039;61's picture

November 04, 2022 at 09:11 am

Packers management, specifically Murphy, created the monster. I posted before and it is still appropriate, the Packers were not forced by anyone to give Rodgers his current contract. They had their chance to trade Rodgers and they chose not to do it. Any player's agent is going to ask for and take all that he can get for his player. This is where a little tactic called negotiating is required. However, Murphy's ego wanted Murphy to be able to say I have the best and most highly paid player ever as my QB for the Green Bay Packers. "We're not idiots." And so here we are. Thanks, Since '61

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Guam's picture

November 04, 2022 at 11:49 am

Since'61: I think most of us agree that Rodgers is not at fault here. He and his agent correctly negotiated the best contract they could get for his services. The fact that he was in the window of potentially age-related declining performance is not his responsibility. Management has the responsibility of determining whether it is time to move on or not.

Murphy made the bad decision and the Packers and their fans will have to live with it for the next few years. Having to repeat the 70's and 80's at least for the next few years is not something I am looking forward to.

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Since&#039;61's picture

November 04, 2022 at 07:20 pm

I actually think that the Packers have big issues with coaching and with their decision making process. Those are bigger issues than re-signing Rodgers. Once they decided to retain Rodgers they needed to acquire some decent weapons and quality OL depth around him.

Expecting Watson, even if healthy to have a significant impact in his rookie season is not to understand a player's learning curve. Adding an aging and often injured Watkins only compounds the WR problems. All of this plus the OL issues should have been part of the discussions for deciding whether or not to re-sign Rodgers.

Even if Rodgers retires after this season the Packers will still issues at WR, OL and DL going into 2023 without much cap space to work with. Either way the Packers are at least a few seasons away from getting back on track.
Thanks, Since '61

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Guam's picture

November 05, 2022 at 09:43 am

We are in agreement again on the coaching issues and the decision making process. The coaching issues have been well described by ColdWorld and I can add nothing to his extensive discussion of that topic. The decision making problem I believe is rooted in the strange management structure Murphy put together. I believe every other team has the coaches reporting to the General Manager which insures cohesion on the football side of the operation. No so the Packers which have the coaches, the GM and the financial side of football (Russ Ball) reporting to Murphy. No wonder the fans are questioning the decisions of the Packer FO.

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croatpackfan's picture

November 05, 2022 at 12:42 pm

Since, I agree with you about the main problem the Packers have going forward and the current state of total disarray on the team (management and coaches). I also agree that Aaron Rodgers has no responsibility for the SC mess. He took what was offered to him.

But, all the power that Aaron ultimately requested in 2020 years before the start of TC is in large part why we don't really see what MLF wants from the offensive end of the team. I think that, after all the statements that Aaron Rodgers has made publicly, it is clear that there is a conflict between him and the MLF about the concept and the tactics on offense.

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Since&#039;75's picture

November 05, 2022 at 03:10 pm

Hope all is well Since'61.....

After Love was drafted, and Rodgers asked to be traded....that should have been the blessing the Packers needed imo.
I was pro trade.

They could have traded Rodgers to San Fran for a Kings ransom...AND, that would have cured the salary cap problem in the same move.
IMO....that is where Murphy missed the boat.

Instead they compounded the cap and Jordan Love problems, into other problems.

If they had made that trade in 2018, no telling what this team might have looked like right now.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 06, 2022 at 03:47 am

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Leatherhead's picture

November 04, 2022 at 10:35 am

I don't think that bringing the MVP back is a mistake. It cost a lot.

Conventional Wisdom is that it's better to get rid of a guy a year too early than a year too late. Like we did with
Davante Adams, Bulaga, Mike Daniels, and a host of others. But this was the MVP, and I think that if you can keep the MVP on your team, you should.

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Johnblood27's picture

November 04, 2022 at 10:50 am

I have to disagree here LH.

Keeping the MVP sounds great, but when he is old and long in the tooth (you can understand the tooth analogy I bet)

AND...

You can get an absolute franchise changing load of booty for him in a trade... You use the "year early rather than year late' strategy and pull the trigger.

not enough for you?

OK, add in the taffy pull it has been the past few off-seasons getting Rodgers committed to the franchise you want to mortgage by signing him...

still not enough for you?

OK, add in the dysfunctional relationship that is very obvious between the future team strategy of BG and mlf (run-play action-defense) and the QB-centric heroics that is played out on the field each and every week by AR.

The fit was uncomfortable at best and the record was "in spite of' and not 'because of'.

there is my case. AR most certainly should have been traded this past off-season. I said it then. I am still saying it now.

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NickPerry's picture

November 05, 2022 at 02:44 am

JB is on FIRE today with these comments! Keep them coming JB, awesome job.

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Guam's picture

November 04, 2022 at 11:34 am

Leatherhead: If the Packers could not have gotten a king's ransom in players and draft choices for trading Rodgers, then keeping the MVP was an adequate, albeit financially risky, strategy. It was the missed opportunity to jump start the post Rodgers era that tipped this firmly into a bad decision.

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Leatherhead's picture

November 04, 2022 at 02:21 pm

Can you think of a single instance where a guy won the MVP and played for another team the next year.? I can't.

I wanted to trade Rodgers, but it was Murf7777 who helped me realize that the organization very likely thought they'd be better with Rodgers this year than without. Nobody was expecting the wheels to come off.

Water Under The Bridge.

Draft picks are nice, but let's remember that about half of them....and I'm talking about guys in the Top 100.....never amount to squat.

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Guam's picture

November 04, 2022 at 06:18 pm

You are right LH, I can't remember an MVP getting traded, ever. That doesn't mean retaining a 38/39 year old MVP was the right decision. Murphy chose to just ignore the age issue and hope that Rodgers was the next Brady. Surprise! Rodgers is just like the other 99% of NFL QBs not named Brady. Father Time is undefeated.

And yes, draft choices are not guarantees, but they sure are great opportunities. Bigger opportunities than the Packers have with an aging Rodgers.

I understand how the decision got made. Bold and direction changing decisions are never easy to make and the conservative path is always to maintain what you have. Unfortunately conservative choices can be just as fatal as bold choices. It is becoming clearer every game that the conservative choice was not the right one. Murphy is going to have to live with that epitaph.

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LeotisHarris's picture

November 04, 2022 at 06:28 pm

LH, the interwebz says you are correct. The only NFL MVPs to not play the next season with the team they won the award with were Norm Van Brocklin in 1960 and Jim Brown in 1965. Both retired following their MVP seasons.

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Johnblood27's picture

November 05, 2022 at 07:20 am

How many MVP's were 38 years old?

How many MVP's were publicly creating friction with their front offices and coaching staffs?

Taking ONE criteria and making it the reason for a complex decision is a poor way to make decisions.

Murphy did it. he wagered on Rodgers based exclusively on Rodgers ability to bring attention to the franchise. All other considerations seem to have been ignored completely.

MVP or SB Champ? Which is more important?

I am now, was before, and always will be a TEAM over individual kinda guy.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:02 am

Very true.

And I suppose those "established players" acquired with future draft picks I mentioned below would have been a DT and a wide receiver. Help at those positions would have been welcome, but I, too, did not expect the wheels to come off, particularly at OL. I figured Bakh would return for week one, that Jenkins would return at some point, Myers would improve in year 2 as would Newman, and I failed to foresee Runyan's regression. I figured they would draft an OL, and it is not unknown for a 3rd or a 4th rounder to come in and play at a respectable level. Didn't happen, at least so far. It may be those established players might have been safety or some other position.

Water under the bridge, as you say.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

November 05, 2022 at 11:45 am

No more internet hugs today Guam but great post! :)

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

November 05, 2022 at 11:45 am

LH,
Without Adams the previous two years was Rodgers the MVP? Who helped make Rodgers the MVP? I'd venture a good guess that Rodgers would not have been anywhere close to MVP the past couple years without Adams. Packer management absolutely had to know Adams was gone prior to the Packers resigning Rodgers to that crazy contract. Management screwed up big time as it related to those two contracts. I do think it worked out best to trade Adams but the Packers should have factored in Adam's situation prior to Rodgers contract.

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Leatherhead's picture

November 06, 2022 at 10:10 am

Knock, some good comments here from you and TGR and JB and Guam.

I don't think any QB wins without a good offense around them, and Adams was certainly a big part of that. A lot of speculation this offseason was about trading Rodgers and Adams as a package, and then you started hearing Murphy saying "We view them as separate subjects" and that tipped me off to the fact they were going to move Adams. I never expected mid-first and a mid-second round pick for him. We made him a good offer, he wanted to play with the Raiduhs, so it's done.

I don't view any of this as a "big screw up". I think they made a choice about the direction of the team on the field for one year and it's going to have financial repercussions for at least a year after, but I don't think it's insane, or stupid, or incompetent, that the Packers Brass contemplated all their options and chose to run it another year with the returning MVP. They knew the cost, they knew how old Rodgers was, they knew how much he had relied on Adams (sometimes, to our detriment). They knew everything we know, and probably a lot more, and this was the choice.

It hasn't worked. I don't think we'd be a lot worse off if we had played with Love, but I'm not sure we'd be better. There's absolutely no guarantee what our record will be next year without Rodgers (Yes, this is the end for Rodgers in Green Bay. If you're a fan, relish his final few games for us. If you wish the Packers would move on, you only have a short time to wait.)

Stuff happens. Perfect storm. Everybody fails and falls down, but some people keep getting back up. We'll see what happens in Green Bay. I still think we're in it if we beat the Lions today.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 06, 2022 at 03:51 am

"My problem is that I cannot devise a contract extension for Rodgers that works for him and for the team. Joel Cory's article suggests a four year extension at the market using a $75 million signing bonus. The market might be $45M for each new year, so it would be 4 years for $180M in new money plus what Rodgers is scheduled to earn in 2022 ($27.49M) for a total of 5 years and $207.49M." 2-8-22

AR got more than what I thought his market was in February of 2022. $50M + AAV. Once the FO gave AR that much money, the thing to do probably was to go all in as to money/cap and draft picks, including trading some future draft picks for established players who could help in 2022 and 2023. The FO kept one eye on the future instead.

https://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/the-cap-suggests-moving-on-from-rodgers-413

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Lphill's picture

November 04, 2022 at 11:57 am

No first round pick receivers for Rodgers his entire career , now the O line can’t block and the receivers can’t catch but hey let’s blame Rodgers .

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Coldworld's picture

November 04, 2022 at 05:38 pm

He didn’t blame Rodgers.

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

November 04, 2022 at 06:23 pm

The two best passing offenses in football are the Bills and Chiefs. Other than the flier the chiefs just took on Kadarius toney (which will likely fail miserably because hes as immature as they come), neither of these teams have a single 1st round receiver on their rosters. Can we put this narrative to bed please?

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

November 05, 2022 at 11:47 am

Did Favre get many top notch WR's in his career? QB's like Favre & Rodgers make the WR's better. Would it have been nice absolutely and even Ron Wolf in later years had the regret of not providing Favre with better WR's.

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Ryan3468's picture

November 04, 2022 at 12:15 pm

What list of teams going all in have not regretted it? We have too expensive players returning too little. Scheme or team identity lost in a fantasy. It is high time this team sees itself in a mirror. Offense holding most of the blame

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Since&#039;75's picture

November 06, 2022 at 05:20 am

How about upper management holding most of the blame?

They are the architects of the team we see.

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Roadrunner23's picture

November 04, 2022 at 02:18 pm

I’m sure they already do

I sure as hell do!

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LeotisHarris's picture

November 04, 2022 at 02:43 pm

It's always a treat to hear from Ed Wood. How else would we know about the popularity of betting sites in New Guinea?

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fangirl's picture

November 04, 2022 at 03:09 pm

~There are a number of Defensive players, as well, being paid exorbitantly who have 'regressed'

~Another money drain-coaches not requiring basics such as blocking/tackling...$$$ going to waste.

~50 million QB/no receivers??

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Oppy's picture

November 04, 2022 at 06:41 pm

Coaches salaries don't count against the salary cap, so there's no real impact if a coach is "making more than he's worth".

Who are the exorbitantly paid defensive players that have regressed?

$50 million player, the money has to come out of somebody's checks. Also, I'd like to see you step into the WRs room and basically dismiss all their talent. There's plenty of talent at WR in that locker room. Just not a lot of experience. But I think this could be the strongest corps of WRs since we had Jennings, Jones, Nelson, Cobb, and Driver on all the roster.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

November 05, 2022 at 11:51 am

Oppy,
I am in agreement with you and felt that way since prior to the season. Unfortunately we really do not know what we have in Watson yet but if he can beat the injury bug the guy obviously has insane talent. No need to discuss Doubs (who I predicted prior to the season would be the Packers leading WR this year), and Toure who I have also been high on were going to be excellent WR's. They just need game experience and hopefully they play more than Watkins & Cobb from here on out. More upside and much more potential. I know there are many posters who do not think too highly of Amari. I'm torn about him but I truly believe he needs more playing time. Let's see what he has & give him game time experience. If he cannot produce they can unload him this offseason.

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Since&#039;75's picture

November 06, 2022 at 05:30 am

"There's plenty of talent at WR in that locker room."

Just no #1 and #2 receivers that most winning teams have on their roster.

Talent maybe.....BUT.....talent that is injured a lot, talent that is very raw. Talent that misses a lot of games. Talent that drops a lot of balls. Talent trying to learn how to run the right routes. Talent whose best years are clearly behind them. Talent trying to learn a complex offense, with a wonderlic score of 8.

I think it's important to keep things in perspective.
Details matter....Reality matters.

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Leatherhead's picture

November 06, 2022 at 10:32 am

Are these winning teams because they have a superduper WR, or do the WRs look superduper because the teams are winning? I mean, is Davante Adams still superduper on a losing team? Did MVS become a better player this year in KC?

There's a school of thought that the NFL is a passing league and in order to compete you have to have superduper WRs. I'm skeptical. 32 teams x6 WRs=192 WRs active each week, approxiimately. Bell curve says about 2/3 of them are pretty much average-ish, so that would be 124. The remaining 68 would be above average or below average. That means about 34 UltraSuperDuper WRs. in the league. Or about 1 per team. And that's before injuries.

I'm old school enough that I believe offense still comes down to getting guys blocked and executing the simple stuff correctly, and I think it's more important than leaping, twisting, catches.

Nice Avatar, by the way. I hope it doesn't trigger anybody.

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