Great! The bar got Lowered.
Maybe we should just change the
Green Bay Packers name.
To the university of Green Bay Packers.
When the Rookie contracts are done.
We take draft Picks in return.
Love all the hype ,hope, and prove it.
It's just perfect for No one over 30.
Rodgers is gone. And the back shooting
has prevailed.
So who cares about the benefits.
I'm here for the life experience.
Old people don't like Uncertainty.
Rodgers didn't want players to be set in their ways.
And made players better than what they were.
Thats whats missing. Who will make them better.

Well said, Tim.

There appears to be a convergence of a number of positive factors in play for this Packers team in 2023, and along with that there’s excitement amongst both players & fans, and what looks to be one helluva lot of fun.

A multitude of factors - most if not all of them positive - are coming together before our very eyes, going back to LaFleur’s hiring, and his vision for what this Packers team could look like. Look around at how much has changed since.

We are about to see that, with a new QB1, a veteran OL & veteran set of quality RBs. A new and dynamic set of WRs & TEs. A totally remade defense and STs. A new energy.

Very exciting, indeed. This Packers Hot Rod was in dire need of an overhaul and a fresh coat of paint. What are we talking here? 33 coats of newly drafted laquer applied to this beast in the last 3 years? Green Bay’s lighter, faster, more powerful machine glows. No one’s gonna recognize it! The rest of the NFL won’t know what hit ‘em…

“All Gas No Fucking Brake.”

The hard part will be keeping that feeling after a couple of losses, which are bound to happen. I hope enough players and fans can keep upbeat through the valleys and really embrace the peaks as signs of a hopeful future.
I'm really liking the team on paper, but I did last year as well, which led to some disappointment.
As always, the most important thing, unfortunately, is going to be the impact of injuries.
I worry about what an injury to Jordan Love or Aaron Jones or Kenny Clark would do to the season. I'm hopeful that we could weather an injury to one starter at any other position, and maybe AJ Dillon could have a bounce-back season if Jones went down...

We've all worked for outfits where there was someone who took up all the light and the oxygen in the room, and when they finally got gone, you felt like you could breathe and see again.

I see this team playing looser, enjoying it more, not always looking over their shoulder. Whether that translates into wins we won't know until fall, but I have to bet there's going to be an esprit de corps among this group we haven't seen in Green Bay in a decade.

Management, coaches, players all on the same page, after the same thing, together.

I'm with Tim...I can't wait either.

This season does have an added excitement, one that I haven't felt in a while. There still several position battles to be determined, a bunch of new offensive weapons for Jordan Love to grow with including TWO new TEs and a WR taken in the 2nd and 3rd rounds of this draft that I'm extremally excited about.

Is Romeo Doubs or Christian Watson the #1 WR on this team. Wilde and Taush had a discussion yesterday about who the true #1 WR will be in GB this season. From the things I've read and listened to, it's seems clear Doubs and Love have a pretty good connection started. I'm pretty sure Watson will want that strong connection too. Competition only makes us better!

On the O-Line can Sean Rhyan give us reason to be as excited as many of us were when he was drafted? How much better will Zack Tom be this year? Can Joe Barry just put all these talented defensive players in a position to win on EVERY play (that means no playing OFF on 3rd and 4 Joe)?

But a LOT will come down to two things...

1) Can Love show he's a capable starter in this league? Can he get better and better each week? Can he put together full games like the 4th quarter against Philadelphia last year?

2) Was it Matt LaFleur's coaching abilities that led to three 13 win seasons or was it really just having a HOF QB? It seems there's several folks out there unwilling to give LaFleur any credit for the resurgence that started when he got here in 2019.

No matter what, it's REALLY exciting and I'm loving very minute of it...At least for now.

How about this as the unofficial theme song of the 2023 Packers?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdt0SOqPJcg&ab_channel=PhilGoodFactor1

"The quality of the product they put on the field this year could range anywhere from bottom of the barrel to cream of the crop"

Tim, you say I can't know for sure. We have a top O-line/running game. We have at least (per LH too) an average D that can easily be better than average on any given Sunday. We have emerging special teams that are taking accountability. Get quality depth on both lines and look out.

What QB could ask for more? A complete team. Even our last QB would have a hard time finding fault with how it's going (if he was in the facility, at least).

How hard would it be to turn half of last season's loses into wins?

I'm excited for the youth movement in GB. They currently have 3 players age 30 and older. They have 8 players with 7 years of experience or more. Compare that to the 53 players they currently have with 2 years of experience or less.

The last 2 drafts they have drafted 24 players. All of which are currently on the roster. To say the least, this is exciting. Especially when we look back at the potential last years rookie class showed us.

While we have no idea how well these young guys will turn out, it is exciting when we see the potential. For example in the OTA's. We have no clue how much of an impact our rookie class will make. But you see the speed of Reed and Musgrave. You see the power from Van Ness. Those things get you excited for sure.

I really can't wait until training camp starts. I am looking forward to seeing what all of these rookies do when the pads come on. And how much the 2nd year players improved since last year.

Tim, nicely recognized the main reason for optimism for the upcoming season. There is no angry stares downfield, there is no division to young and old, there is no requests for this or that player or plays, there is no trust issue to the level of dog house, there is no - anybody can continue...

You explained the statement David Bakhtiari gave in this locker room interview: "First it was strange for me to see so many persons I do not know, but it quckly turn out to be fun!".

The fun many here (me included) feels after so many years of negative energy (from 2017 and start of the running away Mike McCarthy out of team) till the draft week this season was nothing but spasm.

I'm not defending Mike McCarthy, or try to acusse anyone else, because I think McCarty's time with Packers came to the end. He was not able to offer nothing new at that moment, and old things were spared. Unfortunatelly, Mark Murphy kept Ted Thompson to long from retirement (it is reported that TT wanted out due to his health condition, but Murphy did not allow him to), so Packers organization started to do mess inside and that reflected by many negative things coming in the row.

Finally, Packers turned around everything that consumes positive aspects for the team, as Savage described as more oxygen and light in the locker room and on the field, or we can say that team finally shows camaraderie that is important part for success of any group of the people. There is no ME any more, again Packers are WE!

"One for all, all for one!"

Go Pack Go!

I'm excited to see this team play and for the new era of Packer football to begin. I just want the team to make it through TC without any serious injuries. I would hate to see this team get derailed by injuries before they have a chance to get out of the gate.

I realize that there are going to be mistakes and miscues with all of the young players on this team but I have a sense that they will come together as the season goes on. I don't have a high degree of confidence in MLF or Barry but at least we know that we have Bisaccia waiting in the wings if things get real bad.

I just want the Packers to make it through the preseason clean and then we can go from there. One play, one game at a time. Carry the G and Go Pack Go!
Thanks, Since '61

One word comes to mind, watching OTA & lockerroom interviews is,...Refreshing!!
The Pack will lose games, in the usual ways, but how the squad comes back. The attitude, on mistakes the teams vision and team outlook is key. These new players came from winning programs. Enthusiasm & outlook will carry a positive attitude team a long way. This is MLF's team now. All his. Time to see great coaching & development from his assistants. Fun to watch & easily tracked individual progression. GPG!!!

The thing about being focused on the past is it won’t change for you and will never return to you, but only get further away.

Winning makes for good times. They can have good vibes all they want in June but if they aren't winning in the fall all that goes out the window. All excitement over starting new without Rodgers will fade fast if there isn't a winning QB replacing him. Training camp was never suppose to be fun. It is suppose to be hard work and training to prepare for the season.

What will be different from last season: O line should be set and deep, rookies more experienced, an infusion of new rookies, Reed- Lowry- Crosby- Tonyan- Lazard and Rogers gone, Love will probably be less accurate and not as good at reading Ds compared to Rodgers. To me the first 3 changes overcome the negatives for a slighty improved team( 9-8). If Gary and Stokes come back early and able, the improvement could be substantial.

Going to sit back and enjoy the ride this year, with no real expectations other than the team competing hard and having real enthusiasm throughout the whole process. Last year, even very early felt like that doomed rode trip of previous years. This year there won't be anyone slotted to play, because QB1 says so. I thing competition in training camp will be fierce and fun to follow. Refreshing indeed!

"And, perhaps most importantly, there's not a preoccupation regarding the future and non-football activities of a certain future Hall of Fame quarterback."

Never a truer word has been said!

That's right, Packer Nation too (most of it anyway) is upbeat because the constant strain has been a drain. Now only positive vibes!

If my impression of the NFL landscape is accurate, it's fascinating how the vast majority of fans here at CHTV are so excited about these young, post-Rodgers Packers, while almost all of the national media seems to dismiss the team as irrelevant, instead getting excited about Rodgers and the Jets.
Is this what others see?
As it is, I'm happy to hang out with real fans of the Packers here at CHTV in their enthusiasm moving forward.
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I'm glad not to focus too much on Rodgers these days, but it's good to realize what a relief it is to get out from under the weight of his domineering arrogance.
His glare seemed to crush the rest of the team into a perpetual state of unease about what he would think.
It's amazing to me that we were able to be freed from his gloominess hanging over us so haughtily and heavily, and I'm almost giddy about a new era of Packers football.
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There are no guarantees with the Packers, whether with Rodgers or without him.
I'm so glad, though, for the new opportunity to start afresh with building a team the right way.
The bonus is that there seems to be an abundance of talent on the roster to give us extra hope.
I'm preparing myself for tough times, while hoping for the best to emerge from the ups and downs.
The drama of it all makes it all the more fun, and I'm going to try to enjoy the journey.
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As Bart Starr liked to say, in so many words, life is not by chance but by choice, not a matter of outside fate but of inner determination.
It's up to these players and coaches to give their all in both talent and character in striving for a Super Bowl triumph, and it's up to us as fans to truly encourage them to the fullness of their potential.

I've watched every Packer team assemble for the last 50 years, and this is a pretty good group to start the summer with. I like it. After the end of a disappointing season, and all the other b.s., I looked at what we had and said "We have to improve the offense." Two TEs and a WR on Day 2 has been part of that answer, as well as making the change to a younger guy at QB. I wish that we had bolstered the Oline, because I still see Newman as #7, which means he's a starter as soon as we take our second injury. But maybe some of the other guys have improved. We'll see.

IMO, we should keep the ball in the hands Jones/Dillon, Watson, and Doubs about 80% of our plays. That would be about 35 touches/targets for the RB, and another 15 for our two main WRs. It doesn't leave a lot for everybody else but these guys, with good blocking, will move the ball and score points. I firmly believe that.

I'm also not angsting over the defense, because if KC can win the Super Bowl and give up 369 points, then the 371 we surrendered last year is certainly not too many....if the offense is putting points on the board, which I think it will.

We've also been blessed with a wonderful opening schedule: On the road against the Bears (worst team in the league last year), on the road against Atlanta (under .500, no QB), a home opener against the Saints and then we host the Lions on a short week for them. I could see us 4-0. I could. I hope it does, just so I can see heads explode.

As a packer fan the only thing I want to know is if the defense is not top 10 by all metrics will lafluer be held accountable ? We can blame joe berry all we want. But he didnt hire himself nor retain himself that is on lafluer.

Or will he get the mccarthy pass for keeping capers 5 years to long.

Nice work, Tim. You succeeded in getting the faithful to focus on the positives.

Maybe your nickname should be "Odd Ball"...not in a negative way, but in the personality of Donald Sutherland's role in Kelly's Heroes (great movie, great actors!). As Kelly and his heroes were sneaking and fighting behind Nazi lines to steal $billions in Nazi gold, whenever someone was whining, saying "we can't do this!", Odd Ball would say "Enough with the negative VIBES, man!"

Rodgers was a millstone around the necks of the Packers, with unneeded extra weight gone from this team can be quite free wheeling and actually do what is asked of them and not some whim egotist saying and thinking to himself he knew better!

Buoyed in part by other commenters here at CHTV, I'm allowing myself this offseason perhaps some unrealistic optimism about the Packers.
As I'm turning 61 this month, and suffer from chronic depression, I realize life is full of disappointments; but I'm okay with giving myself some leeway for a little giddy enthusiasm.
After all, as I stuck with the Packers through the '70s and '80s, I have some perspective on victory and defeat.
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By the way, about a year ago this month, I was in an emergency helicopter on my way to live-saving surgery to repair a torn aorta just above my heart (aortic dissection; see the case of the actor, John Ritter).
When I felt a pain in my chest, I almost didn't call the paramedics, because I was afraid of making a big deal out of nothing.
With the help of supportive comments and prayers from others here at CHTV, I'm doing pretty well after almost an extra year of life. Thank you!!!
It seems the key to the Packers, and to life in general, is to try to trust in the abundant goodness of God, to make the best of things with gratitude, and to persevere in good times and bad until the last second.

Another Rodgers bashing article from Cheesehead TV. Always pointing the finger at off-the-field, media created stuff. How exactly did Rodgers decision not to get a vaccine hurt the team? He missed exactly one game and plenty of vaccinated players throughout the league missed much more time. Hard to complain about results when the QB led the team to 13 wins each of the Covid years and won two MVPs in the process. The rest of it was all media fodder, written again and again to get people to click on links.

The narrative that he isn't friendly enough with young players? Well he played well enough with a broken finger last year, that despite all the WR injuries the rookie trio had over 1000 yards and 11 scores. They were actually pretty darn productive with the Watson missing 3 games and Doubs missing 4. Looks to me like he got on the same page with them well enough to be about as productive as Jordy, Adams, James Jones, and Cobb were their rookie years. It's just that they didn't have any other talent beyond Lazard and Cobb who were clearly not at the skill level to be a #1 WR.

Calling out young players when they're not doing what they need to in practice? How did that turn out? Even an undeveloped guy like MVS had a great contribution as a rookie, with his second best catch percentage of his entire career coming as a rookie. I loved that the QB challenged young guys to work on their trade, to practice the way they needed to. I think it is part of why GB has had the great development with WRs during his tenure. And of all the WRs that left for greener pastures, only Adams has been anywhere near as productive in the new spot as with GB.

Great, the young guys are having fun. Well Rodgers was having a lot of fun when Hackett was the OC and they were winning. And I can't imagine thinking your 38 or 39 year old QB would be hanging out with 20 and 21 year old players. Can you think of any other QBs of his level late in their career that did that? Brady wanted his guys he played with in N.E., just like Rodgers wanted the guys he knew he could count on. I just liked winning and Rodgers did that. He made a lot of WRs very productive. And he kept GB in the hunt every year barring injury years, usually without a ton of support from the defense.

Maybe Love can be competitive. Maybe all the potential will translate to production. We've sure had plenty of guys wash out. But all the excitement surrounding this young squad will no doubt fade fairly quickly if they don't have success on the field. It's exciting now because nobody has more wins than GB for 2023. None of us know if it will stay exciting for the season or longer. Only time will tell.

There was everything Aaron Rodgers, and his constant, snarky, snide jabs at the team. You can not put it any better. AR made the Packers unwatchable and you could not let your kids watch a bad leader like him who makes everybody worse.

He made nobody better since 10 years at least and he was proud of it. Everytime it really counts he failed and blamed everybody else. Than he asked Rogan for advise. Rogan. thats all you need to know. How low can you get. Vince would have fires him 2013 and everyone know.

No matter how Love turn out, the Packes will be in better shape anyway

Hoping like hell the Jets get selected for Hard Knocks.