Confessions of a Polluted Mindset - Stuper Bowl

The Weekly Packers Brain Drain from Jersey Al.

OK, I admit I didn't know about all the postseason overtime rules, but some 49er players didn't? Really? Top that off with the fact that I heard that Andy Reid went over them in training camp! So is the bloom off the Shanahan rose? Is he one of those guys that are better off as a coordinator than a head coach? Am I saying all of this because I'm really annoyed his team has knocked the Packers out of the playoffs too often? Probably.

The game it self was a real snoozer for the first half, and it seemed like KC's offense was in a stupor. But as I spent halftime watching the commercials and chowing down on some great food, I knew it would change for two reasons. First, too many Super Bowls have started out like that and then the butterflies seem to get shaken off at halftime and teams come out with a new approach. Secondly, it's Pat Mahomes. We've seen this movie too many times now. I told my group before the game that the game would be won on a final possession and it seemed like nothing less than a fait accompli that it would be Mahomes that would do it.

Speaking of the commercials, I thought there were a ton of misses and a few hits. The worst ones per this polluted mind: The Dunkings commercial was just dumb as all hell. But the Reese's commercial had it beat for pure stupidity. The biggest waste of money was the Skecher's commercial. Was it worth $7M for Mr. T and Tony Romo to remind us there is no "t" in Skechers? As for my favorites, I thought the Etsy commercial was the most creative - a cheese board for France as a thank you for the Statue of Liberty? I though it was a great premise and had the funniest ending/punch line. Next up was the Doritos commercial where two Latino Moms (Dina nd Mita) go full Avengers mode when someone else grabs the last bag of Doritos DInamita chips. The ensuing action-movie superhero chase scene with humor interspersed was awesome.

But back to Packers football...

I've been thinking about this a lot recently - I spent most of this past season underestimating this Packers team. I spent too much time doubting their ability to win games - thank goodness I didn't do any betting this year! But even that was because I felt I didn't have the pulse of this team, and honestly, I didn't. Maybe I let the uncertainty of starting the season with an unproven quarterback and the youngest roster in the league color my thinking. Maybe it was knowing Joe Barry would always be there to ruin my dreams. For sure, the stretch of losses to some bad teams compounded the problem.  Even when things started to turn around, I did not believe they could beat the Chiefs or make the playoffs or beat the Cowboys in their building.  I was never able to deflate the doubt bubble in my head. The odd thing is, such negativity is not normally my M.O. So it was just a strange season for me - much more polluted than normal. Perhaps the team's unexpected level of success this year and a new defensive coordinator will help me pop that bubble of doubt in 2024.

Rashan Gary - I'm excited to see him playing from a three point stance. I often thought he was playing too upright, making it easier for offensive tackles to stand him up and nullify his rush. His get off from a three point stance should also be faster and the improved pad level should make him much harder to deal with.

Devonte Wyatt - Year three of Wyatt's career could determine what he is at the NFL level. Will he end up being the AJ Hawk of the defensive line? A first round pick who has a nice career but never reaches the star level he was expected to? 

Christian Watson - I still believe he could be that #1 WR so many fans yearn for (I'm not that hung up on it), but they HAVE to figure out what the issue is with his hamstrings. Per his father, Injuries and specifically hamstring injuries have never been an issue for him before. 

 

John Runyan - I hope he stays. He would be valuable as a solid backup at either guard spot and can play center as well. 

Aaron Jones - Thank the Lord above that all indications are the Packers will bring him back. But they still need to draft his replacement this year.

Which hurts more? - Someone asked Aaron Nagler on one of his daily chats which was more painful, the Packers' 1997 season Super Bowl loss or the Seattle NFC Championship meltdown in 2014. Nagler's answer was losing a Super Bowl was much worse for him. For me, it was the Seattle meltdown. Maybe because it's fresher in my mind, maybe because the Packers did with the Super Bowl in teh 1996 season, so it's not like they missed out completely. Maybe it's just the way they lost that Seattle game and how many things had to go wrong for that to happen. Anyway, I'm curious to see what most of you think. Vote in the poll below.

Note: for some reason, the poll is not showing up on mobile devices. Sorry about that!

Which of these two Packers losses hurts you more?

1997 Season Super Bowl loss to the Broncos
26% (19 votes)
2014 Season NFC Championship loss to the Seahawks
74% (54 votes)
Total votes: 73
 

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HawkPacker's picture

February 14, 2024 at 06:19 am

"Even when things started to turn around, I did not believe they could beat the Chiefs or make the playoffs or beat the Cowboys in their building."

I would add to that list beating Detroit in their building as well.

Re: Super Bowl commercials. The last few years, the commercials have just not been that great to me. Maybe it is my age but there were some commercials where I had to ask myself 'what was this commercial advertising for?"

The first half was somewhat ho-hum but the second half was a pretty exciting game. Also, I just couldn't stop thinking that the packers had a real shot at playing and winning this year's Super Bowl.

RE: next year? It is easy to get caught up in the 'we should be better next year as we are a year older and if we can just have another draft class like this last one' thinking! I think we could be better for all the reasons but to go further in the playoffs? Who knows, I will be satisfied with seeing improvement in all phases of the game, and let the playoff/super bowl chips fall where they may!

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

February 14, 2024 at 11:47 am

There's only one place those chips are allowed to fall: the Lombardi back home to Title town.

It's dynasty building time.

GPG!

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Leatherhead's picture

February 14, 2024 at 01:22 pm

This was a great season, even if we didnt make the Super Bowl. We beat the Bears twice. We slaughtered the Cowboys in the playoffs on their homefield. We got to watch one of the truly great RBs in Packer history, Aaron Jones. We saw our new QB show he's going to be good at his job. We beat the Lions in Detroit on Thanksgiving, and the Super Bowl champion Chiefs the next next week.

The offense started off great with 7 solid quarters. Then it stopped for 4 quarters. Then it had a great 4th quarter against New Orleans. Then it had a bad stretch against Denver and LV. But towards the end of the season, and especially the Dallas game, I think we all saw what this offense can do when they have it all working together. Looking forward to the next season.

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jont's picture

February 14, 2024 at 05:11 pm

I agree with you again, LH. It was a great season. The first half was pretty much as expected, and the second half way exceeded what anyone predicted. On the whole, really good.

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Coldworld's picture

February 14, 2024 at 06:31 pm

It was a great season. We found a franchise QB for the next decade or more quite plausibly. Certainly his performance exceeded almost everyone’s expectations. That’s a huge win. Then we added a draft that was loaded with talent at multiple positions to a level we had no right to expect.

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Cheezehead72's picture

February 14, 2024 at 06:29 am

Al I would have rather seen the Niners win but I do not like them either. At least they are not gaining popularity and selling merchandise with people that are in love with a meaningless singer. I did not watch the commercials because they have been on the decline for years. I did not watch the half time show because Usher does not interest me. I was forced to watch Swift cheer and get excited when the Chiefs did something good. I do not care that she is happy or what she is eating or drinking. Why does the NFL show her so much but they do not show the common family members of the players? Oh silly me it all about the money.

Sorry for all those Swiftees out there that might read this comment but this is just annoying. Seeing her is worse than seeing bad calls from the officials.

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Bitternotsour's picture

February 14, 2024 at 10:11 am

I can help you here. They show Swift because she's the most popular performer on the planet. They show celebrities in general because it grows the game. It's not that hard to figure out. It's also why they show games with announcers yammering non-stop when all a knowledgeable fan wants is to watch the action on the field without distraction. Football is entertainment. The most watched TV show in history.

I'm no Swifty, I'm an old white guy, but the NFL is no longer about me. I don't understand though why you're upset about Taylor, she seems like a pretty sweet person.

I'm much more upset when I have to see shots of the owners box and guys like Jerry Jones, who is a legit asshole.

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SoCalJim's picture

February 14, 2024 at 10:58 am

Great response, Bitternotsour. Swift seems nice enough. Kelce, on the other hand…getting into Andy Reid’s grill like he did makes me think he’s ass when he doesn’t get his way. That event is something that’ll stick with me, no matter how he presents himself in public.

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 14, 2024 at 02:21 pm

ALL-PRO competitors play to WIN. Andy shrugs it off...They Won the Big Game, not a ticket to the Hug Festival.

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Untylu1968's picture

February 14, 2024 at 10:18 am

Meaningless singer🤣🤣🤣🤣
Who's this Taylor Swift you speak of, never of her??

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Packerpasty's picture

February 14, 2024 at 11:19 am

but I bet ya heard of Kid Rock and Ted Nugent...

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Untylu1968's picture

February 14, 2024 at 11:49 am

Packerpasty, turn your sarcasm radar on!! Definitely not a politically motivated post!

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Minniman's picture

February 14, 2024 at 12:40 pm

"I was forced to watch Swift cheer and get excited when the Chiefs did something good."

As an amusing foil to that, they should have had a Kanye West camera too - with audio - that would have spiced up the telecast!

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Boneman's picture

February 14, 2024 at 06:34 am

The Super Bowl loss was very difficult to take. The thing was, everybody in my Packer Fan friend circle was absolutely sure Brett was going to take s to the winning TD. When that last 4th down pass fell incomplete it was met with utter shock and silence. Hard to take for sure but we all believed we'd be back in the SB for our revenge very soon.
The loss to the Seahawks was a different matter. It was a slow build of mounting dread. Even with the McCarthy decisions to kick field goals the feeling niggled at the back of my mind that we might regret not being more aggressive. I watched in disbelief and anguish as one horrible thing after another went wrong, and we knew it was wrong!! Sorry but I'll never get over that game. There was no 'feeling' that we'd be back 'next year'. It was the culmination of a number of years of playoff losses that we were favored to win. Still havn't been able to watch highlights. That game represents a 'blank' whole in my brain...

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DoubleJ's picture

February 14, 2024 at 07:26 am

"The thing was, everybody in my Packer Fan friend circle was absolutely sure Brett was going to take s to the winning TD. When that last 4th down pass fell incomplete it was met with utter shock and silence."

He would have directed the team to a tying TD had Antonio Freeman not dropped an easy catch. I think Freeman knew he had a TD and was trying to run with the ball before he caught it.

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Minniman's picture

February 14, 2024 at 12:47 pm

And to put an exclamation point on this, who else still can't watch an onside kick to the Packers - the ultimate of low percentage hail mary's - and be petrified that the Packers will screw it up too.

THAT... is the difference between the events. One was a loss, the other was an unnecessary ritual harakiri........when a team had no business losing. It was a complete collective loss of minds.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

February 14, 2024 at 05:06 pm

I saw that game as part of a church group. Big crowd. One young married couple from Seattle was there; they moved back not too long afterwards.

I'll never forget that one.

Hopefully the new FO is getting GB out of that slump as we speak ...

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barutanseijin's picture

February 14, 2024 at 07:45 pm

Absolutely right, boneman. It’s not surprising, but only one player or coach from that team would ever participate in a Super Bowl afterwards. Certainly not Rodgers or McCarthy who are well known for their big game impotence, not Peppers, not Morgan Burnett, not Adams or Bakhtiari. Only Sam Shields, who had some special teams snaps for the 2020 Rams.

That game was the end of an era. Afterwards, the team slowly deteriorated as TT lost his health and the QB and HC stagnated.

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Mike Rossmeier's picture

February 15, 2024 at 09:13 pm

The reason the Seattle debacle hurt so much is because the Packers had the best team in the NFL that year and would have beaten the Patriots.
The last person I would have wanted to be was Brandon Bostick riding back on that plane to Green Bay. There was no Uber - but I would have called one, or walked back.

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T7Steve's picture

February 14, 2024 at 06:56 am

The way the game started, I decided to sit out by the firepit in the back yard with the dog and my woman and listened to it on the radio till after half time. Watched about the last 1/4 and OT. Had to keep track of the score for the pool I was in.

I think I was able to cast a vote, but I'm not sure. It kept bouncing me around. Doesn't make any difference Al. It's like choosing between getting your foot or your hand amputated. Both choices suck and always will. The bright side is that those loses may not be a permanent handicap.

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Packers0808's picture

February 14, 2024 at 06:56 am

Am I right if we meet the 49ers again next year because they lost in SB they would come to Lambeau next year. Don't know why I thought that but why I was puling the Chiefs to win plus the Reid tie to GB years ago. Halftime at SB has become a total joke and waste of time and agree commercials have lost their appeal.

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DoubleJ's picture

February 14, 2024 at 07:28 am

The 49ers are coming to Lambeau next year as part of the normal schedule rotation.

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Leatherhead's picture

February 14, 2024 at 11:57 am

The Curse of the Super Bowl loser is a real thing. The vast majority of the time, you're not as good the following year. You don't get back to the Super Bowl and you might not even make the playoffs.

I'm not sure the 49ers are going to be the obstacle that they were this year.

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Bitternotsour's picture

February 14, 2024 at 12:15 pm

I feel similarly about Detroit.

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Leatherhead's picture

February 14, 2024 at 03:08 pm

Don't get me started on Detroit. I don't expect to see them in the Championship game again for another 25 years or so. Next season, they're going to be playing the first place schedule and the Packers will be on it twice, too. Maybe they don't have quite the luck of last year, and people get hurt, etc. This was a team that started fasted, finished at an average pace, and soiled themselves in the 2nd half of the Championship game.

Even assuming they could overcome that psychic trauma, they still have a defense that gives up more points than just about anybody. I think we've seen the zenith of the Campbell years in Detroit, one thirty minute half away, when it all turned to crap and now that's part of their heritage, too.

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barutanseijin's picture

February 14, 2024 at 07:49 pm

Time for some payback. So tired of losing to all their golden boys and that overrated half man half parsnip of a coach.

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egbertsouse's picture

February 14, 2024 at 07:24 am

I couldn’t name a Taylor Swift song if my life depended on it but I just can’t get as stirred up about it as some people around here. Anyway , I would much rather see shots of good looking women jumping around than some beer belly with his shirt off wearing a stupid hat and slopping his beer on the people in front of him. Call me crazy…..

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T7Steve's picture

February 14, 2024 at 07:36 am

What'd I ever do to you? HA! I try very hard not to waste beer by being sloppy.

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RCPackerFan's picture

February 14, 2024 at 08:30 am

i'm assuming you spilled beer on him. :)

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T7Steve's picture

February 14, 2024 at 08:37 am

How would I know? There've been so many times.

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RCPackerFan's picture

February 14, 2024 at 09:22 am

Gotta learn some self control Steve.

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RCPackerFan's picture

February 14, 2024 at 09:21 am

I'm the same way with Swift. I don't know her music, and don't care either. I have no feelings towards her either way. I don't hate her I don't love her.

The only thing I don't like about her is how they are constantly shoving her at us. For me I don't care what the subject is, I get tired of it really quick when they constantly shove it at you. Seeing her 13+ times, is a bit too much.

An example of that is when I got tired of the Patriots when every day you would turn on sportscenter or whatever and they would spend a 1/2 hour talking about the Patriots.

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Bitternotsour's picture

February 14, 2024 at 10:21 am

She writes somewhat innocuous and intensely personal pop songs that resonate with people the world over. There's absolutely nothing about her that's offensive. She's smart, self-confident, and altogether decent. I have no idea why people are so reactive to her. How many times did you see cutaways to Aaron Rodgers girlfriend of the season over the course of his career? None of his girlfriends were in the same stratosphere as Taylor Swift.

As Taylor might advise... you need to calm down
https://youtu.be/Dkk9gvTmCXY

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RCPackerFan's picture

February 14, 2024 at 11:10 am

Yeah, I don't listen to her music. Not because of her, but because thats not what I listen to. I have no ill will towards her. I don't even blame her for all the times she is shown in a game. That is the NFL or networks decision to try and gain as many views as possible.

Calm down? From what? I have no hate. I am just saying I get tired of stuff that gets shoved in my face, regardless of who it is or what the topic is. I don't remember seeing Aaron Rodgers girlfriends shown 13+ times in a game before.

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croatpackfan's picture

February 14, 2024 at 11:25 am

Maybe because FPQB did not play in any SB after 2011 SB, and at that time he hadn't girlfriend of Swift's popularity...

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Bitternotsour's picture

February 14, 2024 at 11:30 am

to be fair, there has never been a woman whose popularity approached Taylor. Rodgers never really rose to the level of having an "A" list girlfriend. Also, not sure he could have handled not being the main person in the spotlight.

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RCPackerFan's picture

February 14, 2024 at 11:38 am

How about setting up a channel where its purely devoted to keeping a camera on her full time, with the score in the lower corner?

Paul Rudd is a huge Chiefs fan. I didn't know he was at the game until after. They didn't show him once that I saw. There were other celebrity's there that I didn't know until after.

My whole point of all of this, is that I don't like having whatever the topic is shoved at me over and over.

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Bitternotsour's picture

February 14, 2024 at 12:26 pm

When the internet was in its infancy, I had this fanciful vision that eventually we could direct our own viewing experience, that we'd have the ability to choose the camera, to follow a specific player, unencumbered by the "booth" and the actual television director.

Good times. I feel you, but somewhere I read that Ms Swift got less than a minute of screen time combined in the multi-hour broadcast. So, there's that.

I can do without crowd shots of any kind, and especially without shots of the owners box and asshats like Jerry Jones and his jerk-ass son. Hell, let's dump sideline reporters. I'd be happy with a text stream if there was news relevant to the on-field action. But football isn't for serious fans, it's entertainment. The Super Bowl in particular.

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Rebecca's picture

February 14, 2024 at 08:11 pm

I feel the same way about the adoration of lil ol Jerry jones or hj Robert Kraft or any of the other wealth sloths.

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GregC's picture

February 14, 2024 at 07:25 am

The Super Bowl is such an odd way for the NFL season to end: a football game that is staged for non-football fans. It's worse for me, because after being able to mute the commercials all season, I actually have to listen to them. What a horror. I hate all commercials. The whole broadcast this year seemed weird and gloomy, with all of the disaster movie commercials, the weird Jesus commercials, the Kennedy commercial, etc. And the halftime show as usual reminded me of how out of touch I am with modern pop music.

I enjoyed the first half because I find it refreshing to watch some good defense every once in awhile. I didn't want either team to win but found myself pulling hard for the 49ers just because they haven't won one in awhile. I don't think there's anything wrong with Shanahan. The Chiefs are hard to beat in the playoffs. It's like going up against Novak Djokovich, although at least the Chiefs are not as unlikable as that guy.

And yes, the playoff loss in Seattle was worse than the Super Bowl loss because of the way it went down. There is still a scuff mark in our basement ceiling from when I jumped up from the couch and raised my hands over my head when the Packers "won" the game with that late interception. Hearing that Julius Peppers is being inducted into the Hall of Fame reminded me of that game. He's the one who told the guy who intercepted the pass to fall to the ground instead of returning it. Playing to lose.

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Guam's picture

February 14, 2024 at 07:38 am

"The Super Bowl is such an odd way for the NFL season to end: a football game that is staged for non-football fans."

I would give you many thumbs up if I could for that brilliant summary of what the Super Bowl has become. I watched the first Super Bowl and it was what you wanted it to be (Packer victory aside) - the culmination of the football season with the crowning of a champion.

Now it has become a three ring circus with the football game nearly a sideshow between the circus acts. I am almost at the point of not watching it anymore.

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Spock's picture

February 14, 2024 at 08:50 am

"I am almost at the point of not watching it anymore." Guam, I reached that point several years ago and haven't watched the game. Obviously, if the Packers were in it I'd be watching, lol. I tuned in to the NFL channel when I went to bed last night just to see who won. The commercials are all bad and will be on channels henceforth; I can wait.

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 14, 2024 at 09:32 am

The Zen Master said:" Never watch the commercials, Never view the halftime redux" Remote Control still works well after all these years. The "Razor's Edge" on Turner Classics. 4-5 newspapers. Walk the new Pup....

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Bitternotsour's picture

February 14, 2024 at 10:22 am

Congrats on the new dog. Life is so much better with a dog in it.

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 14, 2024 at 02:30 pm

Thank you. My old Labrador made it just shy of his 14th birthday. The new guy is his nephew. Number Four, all connected in the Line. I'll train him as my Service Dog as we follow the Wheel of Life.

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Bitternotsour's picture

February 14, 2024 at 07:16 pm

I've moved from rescuing pitbulls 40 years ago to French bulldogs, to Bostons, to German Shepherds and now to a lovely rescued Malinois. Dogs are the greatest. I'm plotting my last exit to coincide with my last dogs...

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

February 14, 2024 at 11:47 pm

A Malinois is a magnificent creature!

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Leatherhead's picture

February 14, 2024 at 12:01 pm

Like you, I've seen them all but that doesn't mean I'm really watching. I'm drinking beer and eating and partying with friends. It's an event. The game, unless the Packers are in it, doesn't usually interest me as much as the other stuff.

The best weekend to be a football fan isn't Super Bowl weekend, it's the divisional round weekend, when the 8 best teams play each other. Or maybe draft weekend, or opening weekend. But not the Super Bowl, unless your team is in it.

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Guam's picture

February 14, 2024 at 01:06 pm

You are right, it is no longer a football game, it is an event. (Sigh)

Like you I much prefer the post season prior to the Super Bowl.

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UdderApocowlipse's picture

February 14, 2024 at 08:58 am

Didn't know there had been a Kennedy commercial; curse this prostate!

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barutanseijin's picture

February 14, 2024 at 07:55 pm

That’s one reason that Peppers doesn’t have a ring. Morgan Burnett doesn’t have one because he listened to Peppers. To be fair, they were probably coached to play that way.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

February 14, 2024 at 11:44 pm

Thumbs down for saying Novax is unlikable. Those are fighting words!

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packerbackerjim's picture

February 14, 2024 at 07:40 am

FYI, No poll is showing below the article. As for the ‘Niners not knowing the rules, the captains certainly should have. Shanahan is engaging in spin, but I think his point going against a gassed D on the other side is at the very least a factor. In other news, Can’t believe I’m looking forward to the Underwear Olympics.

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crayzpackfan's picture

February 14, 2024 at 07:55 am

"Rashan Gary - I'm excited to see him playing from a three point stance"
I hope the three point stance materializes. Another player, who even more than Gary that will benefit is LVN. He is built for playing this way. Adding leverage to his quickness and power, he will be a completely different beast to deal with.

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mrtundra's picture

February 14, 2024 at 07:56 am

Losing a Championship, IMO, hurts a lot more than losing the Seattle game. Especially when Favre overthrows Freeman by a mile on what could have been a GBP TD. Did Favre want Elway to get a ring? Before you scoff, remember that Favre handed the sack record to Strahan, in the Giants game, when we played them. The talk on the Super Bowl loss to Denver, around here, was that Favre overthrew Freeman, on purpose. Sad, but there it is.

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Razer's picture

February 14, 2024 at 08:57 am

The gunslinger gave us many memorable games but he also gave us those game killing interceptions. He was classic "sweet and sour".

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SoCalJim's picture

February 14, 2024 at 11:10 am

Pshaw! It was the chemtrails…and, fluoridation!

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BobWellhoefer's picture

February 14, 2024 at 03:18 pm

Worse yet, if you remember, Elway contacted Favre in the previous off-season and said that the Broncos were moving to a West Coast style offense and Farve, not ever being the brightest bulb in the room basically gave all the Packer's offensive secrets away to Elway. And he was proud to say so. Do I think that those revelations lost the game? Well, Elway basically admitted that they did. And if you watched the Broncos defense, they had every answer in the second half.

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LambeauPlain's picture

February 14, 2024 at 08:02 am

"...maybe because the Packers did with the Super Bowl in teh 1996 season."

Pruf reeding is not a skyll for mee ether, Jirsee Al:-))

The Seattle loss was brutal and worse than the Broncos loss. All the Packers needed to do is make one play out of nine or so miscues. Comedy of errors that almost seemed choreographed between the Packers O, D and STs.

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JerseyAl's picture

February 14, 2024 at 08:15 am

My brain synapses are crossed when it comes to the word "the" as I consistently type it as the. But not to worry, I'm not running for president!

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MooPack's picture

February 14, 2024 at 09:02 am

That right there is funny. Actual lol.

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croatpackfan's picture

February 14, 2024 at 11:29 am

Maybe, if you try... Who knows? You know, American Dream...

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

February 14, 2024 at 11:52 pm

Trunalumprazure!

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Razer's picture

February 14, 2024 at 08:55 am

...The Seattle loss was brutal and worse than the Broncos loss. All the Packers needed to do is make one play out of nine or so miscues...

That is what killed me as well. I thought the interception was the dagger but we couldn't get a 1st down and the comeback was sealed. I couldn't breath. Maybe it is why I relish the Butler interception that won the Super Bowl for the Patriots over the Seahawks. Now we are even Pete.

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Since'61's picture

February 14, 2024 at 08:16 am

Losing the Super Bowl was worse for me than the loss to Seattle in 2014. Yes, the loss to Seattle was a horrible way to lose the game, any game.

But losing in the Super Bowl hurts more at least for me. When the Packers get to an SB they need to win. We never know when they are going to reach that level again given the number of variables that are part of making it that far in a season with injuries, poor officiating, a missed FG or PAT along the way, coaching decisions, etc.

Since SB2 the Packers have reach the SB just 3 times in the last 56 seasons and have won 2 of the games. That's including 30 years of HOF QB play from Favre and Rodgers. It's not easy to reach the SB and the chances don't come along very often for any team. KC is the first team to repeat as SB champs in 20 years.

Playing in the SB means if not now, then when? Just ask the 49ers and their fans. Al, nice job as always. Thanks, Since '61

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 14, 2024 at 09:51 am

Yes, it's best to Win the Trophy. You don't want to be the Vikings, or the Bills...

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Bitternotsour's picture

February 14, 2024 at 10:24 am

I was so sick of Holmgren at that point that I resigned myself to that loss. If he'd been focused we would have won that damn game. Fuck you Mike Holmgren.

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Johnblood27's picture

February 14, 2024 at 11:32 am

YES!!!

I went into a mom and pop restaurant on Maui one time and who was sitting there? The only other couple in the place? Yup. Mike Holmgren and his wife.

He looked at me and I looked at him, we locked eyes and he knew that I knew who he was.

I ate my meal and left, I didn't give him the benefit of my attention.

Screw him.

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Razer's picture

February 14, 2024 at 08:19 am

...I spent most of this past season underestimating this Packers team. I spent too much time doubting their ability to win games...

This was true for much of my 2023 season as well. The early stretch where the boys were making so many mistakes had me wondering if the coaching staff was up to the task. The Lions Thanksgiving game, Minnesota away, Cowboys and San Fran game were absolute highlights. It was a blend of my lowered expectations and the surprise of taking down the favorites that made the season ending so uplifting.

As for the Super Bowl - it was too much makeup (on the pig). The game was very much trench warfare and I thought that the 49ers were winning that battle. More McCaffery should have sealed the deal. Mahommes showed why he is the king and heir apparent to Brady.

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croatpackfan's picture

February 14, 2024 at 11:32 am

"Mahommes showed why he is the king and heir apparent to Brady."

Not so fast, my friend... JUst wait one or two seasons. You'll change the tune...

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

February 14, 2024 at 11:55 pm

No mention of beating the Chiefs?!? That was the high point of the regular season, IMHO.

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RCPackerFan's picture

February 14, 2024 at 08:22 am

Shanahan's rose -
I do question how good of a HC he is. He has had some of the best players in the league, and some of the best defenses. His offense is supposed to be a juggernaut that is unstoppable regardless of who is playing. Yet, they have not won the super bowl, and then you hear players talking about not knowing the rules. The decision to receive the ball in OT, is what ultimately cost them. It gave the Chiefs the advantage.

Past season -
The biggest thing this year was we just didn't know what to expect. We expected a lot of rough moments on offense due to the youth. There was so much newness on offense, and defense we were hoping they would carry us, but Barry and his soft coverages late in games blew 6 4th quarter leads, and almost blew the Saints game as well. We definitely didn't expect them to beat the Chiefs. And we didn't expect them to beat down the Lions and the Cowboys like they did.
This was an odd year overall. But ended great setting us up for next year nicely.

Rashan Gary -
I think Gary is more explosive in a 3 point stance. Just like LVN. I think they are gonna thrive with Hafley. Now whether they stand up or are down often, we will see. But I believe they will be in the 3 point more often.

Christian Watson -
Watching Watson against the Cowboys you got to see who the number 1 WR was. It was Watson. The amount of attention he drew showed who they feared. He really needs to figure out his hamstring issues though. It will be interesting to see if the strength and conditioning staff changes will make a big difference.

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Razer's picture

February 14, 2024 at 09:53 am

...I do question how good of a HC he is. He has had some of the best players in the league, and some of the best defenses. His offense is supposed to be a juggernaut that is unstoppable...

I don't know RC, he has won a lot of games and he has done it with less than stellar QB play. Not many teams have climbed to the top with journeymen QBs, let alone the last man standing as your QB. When you get to the top, guys like Brady and Mahommes are the edge that is hard to beat. To his credit, Shanahan has been given some good players AND he has got good results with those players. Not winning it all shouldn't discount a good player or good coach.

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RCPackerFan's picture

February 14, 2024 at 11:51 am

I'm just questioning how good he really is. He is a tremendous offensive mind. He schemes up a great offense. And no he hasn't had the stud QB, which has hurt. But his skill players are some of the best in the league. And he has had a top defense.

The not knowing the OT rules or at least not letting the players know the rules, really stands out to me, which maybe I'm blinded by that a bit. But it is something that stands out.

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Razer's picture

February 14, 2024 at 12:17 pm

The two best teams went toe-to-toe. The Chiefs defensive coordinator did a masterful job of dialing up pressure and looks to knock Purdy out of rhythm. When it counted, Purdy did not rise to the level of Pat Mahommes. A couple of mistakes, good defense and star QB are the razor's edge difference. This was the same scenario for the Packers against the 49ers some weeks ago. Tables turned.

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RCPackerFan's picture

February 14, 2024 at 12:46 pm

Also don't forget special teams. Special teams essentially won it for the Chiefs.

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 14, 2024 at 02:40 pm

I cannot help but imagine some of those expansive L.E.D. screen flashing Ads and Video interfere with the PR guy's ability to see the damn ball.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

February 14, 2024 at 11:58 pm

What would have been different had SF elected to kick first in OT? KC scored a TD, SF could not.

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croatpackfan's picture

February 14, 2024 at 11:36 am

"Rashan Gary -
I think Gary is more explosive in a 3 point stance. Just like LVN. I think they are gonna thrive with Hafley. Now whether they stand up or are down often, we will see. But I believe they will be in the 3 point more often."

I do not understand RCP Fan, can you explain me? There is one 6th rounder that had several sacks, batted balls, and numerous QB pressures and nobody, almost nobody talking about him. He played DE in the college and was star of the team. I can see him be a star in NFL, barring some unfortuante injury/ies. He will be strenght of the DL for Packers future. His name is Karl Brooks!!!!

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RCPackerFan's picture

February 14, 2024 at 11:47 am

explain what? Shifting from a 2 point to a 3 point stance? I feel that Gary and LVN are better from a 3 point stance, meaning they are then technically a DE rather then OLB. (its essentially the same thing). But I feel like those guys are going to be very good with their hands in the dirt more.

As for Brooks. I absolutely love Brooks! I could see him being moved around the DL.

I am really looking forward to seeing how Hafley runs this defense. We have some really good pieces that I believe he could have a lot of fun with. Brooks being one of the top ones.

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croatpackfan's picture

February 14, 2024 at 12:12 pm

Thank God, his name is not Mel, Mel Brooks...

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

February 15, 2024 at 12:01 am

Comedy of errors?

Let's hope that was fired. JB can do a fine job in Miami, just not as DC.

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 14, 2024 at 02:54 pm

Karl Brooks should be the starting DE. Perfect fit for the 4-3. Wyatt as a three-tech (5.5 sacks) and Clark inside.
I still advocate for T'vondre Sweat to shut down the inside on early downs.The Outland Trophy Winner.

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Leatherhead's picture

February 14, 2024 at 11:52 am

RC, it'll be interesting to see who's on the field, and who is in a 3 point stance, on 3rd and 5. We're probably in a 4-2-5. You have to have enough beef to stop them from making it 4th and short, but you also have to have at least 5 DBs on the field.

We have 5 decent DL: Clark, Wyatt, Slaton, Brooks, Wooden. And if we start adding guys like Gary and PSmith and Van Ness we're up to 8, and we still have to dress out the linebackers and secondary. And I have no clue how they plan on handling the linebackers. Obviously Quay, but who else?

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

February 15, 2024 at 12:06 am

I vote it would be a mistake to get rid of Isaiah McDuffie. That man plays with ATTITUDE! He doesn't just "finish plays," he makes sure his one on one matchup is stuck into the dirt, and repeatedly. This D needs veteran leadership like that.

Make opponents dread coming to Lambeau Field again! Ray Nitschke, fabled to "hit like a Mack truck;" we could use some more of that too, before it becomes illegal.

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pete-nado's picture

February 14, 2024 at 10:27 pm

Not only did some 49ers not know the rules, but the defense seemed in disarray in the 2nd half. Losing Greenlaw had an impact, but Chiefs receivers were running wide open. Some plays clearly 49er linebackers and secondary were out of synch, out of position. Not just Burks. Was it bad coaching? Players that choked? Combination of both? Probably. Failing to use McCaffrey as the game went on also lengthened the game for Mahomes and Chiefs comeback.

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LeotisHarris's picture

February 14, 2024 at 08:46 am

It probably is because it's the fresher of the nightmares, but the loss in Seattle still stings. Any onside kick evokes the memory for me a brings a bit of nausea along for the ride. The Super Bowl loss left me in disbelief and with the disappointment that we were no longer perfect in the big game forever.

I thought the Dunkin' commercial was funny; playing off last year's spot that had Ben at the Drive-thru window.

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Leatherhead's picture

February 14, 2024 at 11:28 am

Recovering an onside kick that you KNOW is coming, and that you've prepared for all season long, should be as easy as falling down. In fact, if Bostick had simply fallen down, we'd have probably recovered the kick. We had beaten the poo out of Seattle and the game was only close because of the fake punt for a TD.

I remember after that game thinking that McCarthy and Rodgers would never get to the Super Bowl again together. And they didn't. That was as close as they got.

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GregC's picture

February 14, 2024 at 09:00 am

I don't think it's at all obvious whether or not to receive the ball with those OT rules. You could look at it like the college OT, where you want to get the ball second so you know exactly what your offense needs to do, but there is also a fatigue factor. The Niners defense had been on the field for awhile before OT, and it would've been hard for them to go right back out there for another potentially long drive. Then the Niners offense would take the ball against a very well-rested KC defense. College OT possessions are short, and fatigue is less of a factor.

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dobber's picture

February 14, 2024 at 09:12 am

I was surprised when they took the ball, but that whole "tired defense" makes sense, too. It reflects an aggressive mindset, which Shanahan tends to have.

They got beat because they couldn't take full advantage of their opportunities, and they couldn't hide their defensive weaknesses for 60+ minutes. Toward the end, KC had them figured out and was moving the ball at will.

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Coldworld's picture

February 14, 2024 at 09:27 am

Good defenses, though the 49ers lost a key piece. In the end, Mahommes was the difference but that took the rush tiring and some possibly over cautious calling from the 49ers. With more time, Mahommes’ talent was enough to differentiate.

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Johnblood27's picture

February 14, 2024 at 11:39 am

losing Greenlaw and a starting safety to injury during the game did not help the 9ers cause.

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NFLfan's picture

February 14, 2024 at 09:04 am

We tuned in to the Super Bowl pre-game and I would have thought our football players had won the Nobel Peace prize or were on their way to conquer a marauding, threatening invader. So over-the-top and egocentric. It was more Hollywood than the Oscars.

Re: Taylor Swift. This ongoing, overwrought display is a PR relationship which is clumsily attempting to steer a narrative about both parties. Let me guess... It will be 'over' in several weeks as their successful careers will 'undermine their best intentions to live happily ever after'

I unfavorably compare every half-time show to Prince and turn it off. Will Hip Hop ever go away?

I could only tolerate about 35% of the entire ordeal.

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 14, 2024 at 10:06 am

The prudes in the NFL offices couldn't handle the Best halftime show, ever @ NOLA when the Pack beat the Pats. James Brown, The Allman Bros Band and ZZ Top. The House of Blues tossing in some Vegas dancers. Yah mon !

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13TimeChamps's picture

February 14, 2024 at 10:58 am

And all those gorgeous Harleys!!

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 14, 2024 at 03:03 pm

I had a Triumph, Bonneville 750....traded it for a Stereo. Now it's worth $$$

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13TimeChamps's picture

February 14, 2024 at 03:22 pm

I had a friend who had a 650 Bonneville. Those were really nice bikes. Not to mention total chick magnets back in the day.

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 15, 2024 at 08:32 am

Carry a couple of carburetors along for the ride....

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

February 15, 2024 at 12:12 am

I had no idea the Allman Brothers played the SB! What an incomparable band.

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Spock's picture

February 14, 2024 at 09:08 am

For me it'll always be the 2014 game -and the '97 game hurt bigtime, too. My wife and I had finally saved up enough for a "Real" vacation to the Diamond resort in Cozamel, Mexico. When I'd called to enquire if I'd be able to see the Super bowl game the answer was "probably not". It turned out we did get the game there but I'd asked various people to tape the game for me and getting all those tapes afterward just reinforced the loss to me. But the 2014 loss was more visceral to me as we were outplaying Seattle big time. Wilson's QB rating at half-time was 0.0. Zero point zero and he ends up with the MVP for the game! The 2014 game hurt more because we "Knew" that the Packers would win the Superbowl if they were in it. Sigh. Still hurts.

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Coldworld's picture

February 14, 2024 at 09:19 am

Watson was sidelined by a hamstring in the college post season in 2021 (from memory). It could well be that the tissue healed imperfectly, causing subsequent proclivity for further issues. Hopefully the medical professionals can figure that out now he’s getting specialist attention.

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RCPackerFan's picture

February 14, 2024 at 09:38 am

I know that I pulled my hamstring in HS. And since then I have pulled it several times playing softball. About every 2-3 years after I would pull it again. Sometimes worse then others. It was always the same one as well.

But from my own experience I believe once you pull it, it is easier to pull it afterwards.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

February 14, 2024 at 01:55 pm

My concern is that his continuous hamstring injuries is due to physical conformation - being there is an inherent weakness somewhere in his hip-muscles-knee configuration. If so, keeping Watson on the field may be a constant challenge throughout his career (sadly). Thus I would not be surprised if Gutekunst took a high-end receiver in Day 1 or 2 of the draft.

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LLCHESTY's picture

February 14, 2024 at 09:23 am

How come nobody told me it was grumpy old man day? 😡

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Coldworld's picture

February 14, 2024 at 09:28 am

Have another look at your mirror. Age is a state of mind.

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RCPackerFan's picture

February 14, 2024 at 09:39 am

OH I love Grumpy old men. What channel is it on?

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HarryHodag's picture

February 14, 2024 at 09:26 am

It's not a popular opinion but to me the Super Bowl is a farce. The NFL, media and sponsors have made the championship of professional football into the modern version of Ringling Bros.

It's a game between the Chiefs and 49'ers. It's football, just like the four months it was played prior. It was a good game as Stupid Bowls go.

I've often thought about how real football fans could make the product better. Here's my take:

1) Start the season 30 days sooner so the Super Bowl would run in mid-January and not in mid-February. It's done in February so TV can rake in bazillions. It's also sweeps month so CBS programming will look good. Does the broadcast have anything to do with the game? No but the cart is pulling the horse.

2) Fans could object to the price of tickets. I haven't seen a game in Lambeau since 1992. Too expensive. I almost had a coronary when I saw the price of this year's Stupid Bowl tickets.

3) Cut back on the number of games to 16 and leave it there. The symmetry is nice with 32 teams. It also helps the players who seem to get really beat up. The NBA has a problem with it's stars resting during key games. In the NFL the stars are too often hurt, especially late in the year.

4) With 32 teams don't have AFC-NFC inter-conference games. Teams in each conference would only play each other during the season.(Update: you would need to have one inter-conference game to make 16, or go to 15 games and one more playoff, etc.) The conferences would play each other would be in the Super Bowl, hence a real championship game. The rivalries within each conference would also be amped up. This is why the first two 'Super Bowls' were so good. Neither team had seen each other during the year.

5)Don't force fans to buy subscriptions to see NFL games. Between college and pro games I had to buy a bunch of subscriptions I didn't want. The NFL was built on 'free' TV, something the greedy gizzards in New York have forgotten.

Yes, all unattainable mind farts on my part, as none of this will ever happen. It just makes me sad to see the game so focused on money and leaving many behind.

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LeotisHarris's picture

February 14, 2024 at 10:35 am

Harry, we should sit out in my backyard sometime with a case of Leinenkugel's and blast our shotguns into the sky until the county sheriff shows up.

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HarryHodag's picture

February 14, 2024 at 11:38 am

1) I don't drink, though you wouldn't know it.

2) If I blew off a shotgun my neighbors would blast me back.

3) They also have pit bulls.

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 14, 2024 at 03:11 pm

It was Special Export with the Old Man on the 4th of July. Why worry, the Chief of Police was my cousin....

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Alberta_Packer's picture

February 14, 2024 at 02:27 pm

I think that it was noted economist John Kenneth Galbraith who opined that "hype" was America's greatest domestic product. Given the NFL's empty calories approach to providing entertainment - relative to maximum financial profit - was JKG not correct?

Nor do I see the NFL product improving any time soon - especially with the rise of sports betting. Games, more and more, have become just a "bet" - rather than several hours of personally enjoyable sports entertainment / theatre. Such is living in The Age of Instant Gratification.

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 14, 2024 at 03:13 pm

Thus sprouted the Phd in Behavioral Economics...

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Alberta_Packer's picture

February 14, 2024 at 04:24 pm

To wit - is most likely a key ingredient in the NFL business model.

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jont's picture

February 14, 2024 at 05:29 pm

Harry, FWIW, #2 and #3 can't go together. Fewer games = fewer tickets = reduced supply. The ticket prices we resist now would go higher still.

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dobber's picture

February 14, 2024 at 09:32 am

SuperBowl losses sting, but every playoff game is a one-and-off winner-take-all matchup. I think the SB loss hurt less because there was a dull malaise that spread over that team as the season wore on--the Holmgren drama, who's coming back, etc. With the cloud hanging over that team, there was a feeling of forboding that made that one-and-off failure less of an issue than the brutal failings at the end of the Seattle game. That Packers team was playing in a way that got hopes up, and they were dashed like having your fingernails ripped out one by one.

I watched the whole SB game and enjoyed most of it. The commercials were junk this year. Didn't care about Taylor Swift. I thought the first half, while low-scoring, was physical and entertaining. KC's defense bailed them out until they got their offense on track. SF struggled to make the chunk plays their offense thrives on.

You don't send someone out to the coin flip who doesn't know what YOU--as the head coach--want them to do if they win the toss. You reap what you sow. Shanahan's one of the best game coaches in the league, but these SB failures will taint his legacy, yes. He's going to win one (or more), yet.

Packers--I don't think Runyan is worth the second contract. I think if he tests the market and doesn't get much action, that might bring him back on more team-friendly terms to be the backup All points toward, but we know what he is, which is an average-ish NFL IOL. Look for the next guy with a higher ceiling.

Watson's inability to stay on the field is exactly why I wouldn't be afraid to nab a WR they like in rounds 2-5 if one presents himself at the top of their board. In a league where teams win by scoring points, I'd rather have the embarrassment of riches supporting the young QB.

Reserving judgment on the 3-4/4-3 switch...these days, those base looks don't count for a whole lot, but it shapes how you orient your depth pieces. I think this transition will be a quick one--the DL the Packers have are a bunch of 3Ts and Slaton. They should have a regular rotation that works pretty quickly...still wish they'd find that stud 3-down DT to complement Clark. It takes some of the pressure off an LB group that's been underwhelming for a long time, but puts it squarely on a DL group that hasn't been awe-inspiring, either. The question of the off-season for me is how they handle that strong-side off-ball LB position--that's an important dude for 2024.

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LLCHESTY's picture

February 14, 2024 at 09:55 am

Wyatt can be that guy next to Clark and as far as rushing the passer is there already. Hasn't been a good run defender and he needs to learn to finish plays more often but luckily he has Brooks pushing him.

https://twitter.com/RossUglem/status/1744210310595010695?t=UaxQEDWkbq4Hy...

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Leatherhead's picture

February 14, 2024 at 02:57 pm

''''That Packers team was playing in a way that got hopes up, and they were dashed like having your fingernails ripped out one by one. ''''

My hopes were high right until our last play....the interception. It was over so quickly I was just kind of stunned. I thought we were going to win, and the Legend of Love would begin.

Here's my case for Runyan. We need to start the season with 9 offensive linemen who can start in the NFL. Maybe 8 and a project. A couple more on the practice squad.

Right now, we have Tom, Jenkins, Myers, and Walker. Beyond that, only Rhyan and Newman have played. That's SIX, which allows us to survive one injury. Now, if you have concerns about Rhyan and/or Newman (yes, I'd be concerned about that), Runyan, IMO, is a better player than either Rhyan or Newman. Then, if would could add some people in the draft in the offseason, it pushes Newman off the roster this year and Myers the next.

He wouldn't be expensive, he's a durable and dependable guy who loves playing for the Packers, and he'd have experience in keeping Love protected. Even if we keep him, that doesn't mean we shouldn't add other, better guys in the draft.

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MooPack's picture

February 14, 2024 at 03:11 pm

I do like Runyan. He likes the Packers and the organization. I know it's a biz, but I like his heart for the team. That's hard to find. Is he a starter? On some teams, yes, but I think he can be upgraded. However, I'd have no problem bringing him back on a very friendly deal as a backup, if he is willing.

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NFLfan's picture

February 14, 2024 at 10:06 pm

I hear rumors that the Jets may be considering Runyan.

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LLCHESTY's picture

February 14, 2024 at 09:41 am

I thought the Walken commercial was easily the funniest but I had been watching a couple of episodes of the Kevin Pollak Chat Show on YouTube with Pollak doing Walken and also Titus Welliver talking about meeting him. So maybe I was primed to enjoy that one.

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LeotisHarris's picture

February 14, 2024 at 10:39 am

+100

Have you seen this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7zEscBHr2s

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LLCHESTY's picture

February 14, 2024 at 01:26 pm

I can't link but if you search KCPS Titus Welliver Christopher Walken you will be rewarded. Not sure if it's on there but at one point they were talking about Walken doing Shakespeare and butchering the rhythm but in a good way really makes me want to see that.

BTW the Walken stories Welliver tells are for adults only!

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Zapato's picture

February 14, 2024 at 10:18 am

I actually enjoyed the entire Super Bowl. It thought the defensive performances in the first half were indicative of what you'd expect in championship play. The second half featured teams showing that they know how to win games. What's wrong with that.

I certainly didn't think the Packers were going to win some of the games against good teams that they won either. But, I always think that during the regular season any team can win on any given week. My expectations throughout the season were that any victory was a plus for a developing team like the Packers. And they over-achieved! The real champions show up during the playoffs. The real champions know how to win games when they count. And that's what happened this year. Both Super Bowl contenders won conference championships by finishing like champs. The Niners took care of business against the Packers when it mattered most. At the end of the game!

The reason why the Seahawks loss hurt so much was because the Packers didn't know how to finish them off. I remember watching Al Harris and a few other players joking around on the sidelines with just over 5 minutes left in the game and I thought to myself, "these guys are going to blow it." And they did! That pissed me off more than anything!

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Bitternotsour's picture

February 14, 2024 at 10:40 am

3rd and 5, two minutes left, game on the line, Spagnola comes out with a 2 down linemen front and seven defensive backs. Poor Jersey Al in his neanderthal robe would have been apoplectic had Barry done it. Just noting, it's the players who win games.

SF had an inferior quarterback. KC did not.

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RCPackerFan's picture

February 14, 2024 at 11:14 am

What happened on that play?

How were the guys lined up? Did they blitz guys? Were the CB's in press coverage?

What was the result in the play?

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Bitternotsour's picture

February 14, 2024 at 11:35 am

They sent 5 guys one of them a cornerback. Pass deflected, harmless incompletion that gave KC the opportunity to win the game. They played zone. Quarters I think. My point is, two down lineman and a 7 man prevent isn't the issue, it's the execution and the players on the field. Barry wasn't dynamic in any way, but it's doubtful we just hired another Spagnolo regardless. Don't expect miracles, and don't shoot the piano player.

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RCPackerFan's picture

February 14, 2024 at 12:49 pm

For me it was more of how the players were being used, which is why I asked.

Barry would take the same lineup and have guys 10 yards off the ball.

Spags sent pressure which resulted in an incomplete pass.

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 14, 2024 at 03:18 pm

Spags put fast guys shooting inside at the correct Angles to compromise the offensive linemen. Barry would never have blitzed.

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splitpea1's picture

February 14, 2024 at 11:14 am

I thought it was a very enjoyable Super Bowl because both defenses were mostly outstanding, particularly in the first half. I also loved a couple of the violent one-arm tackles, one of them occurring on special teams. To me, THIS is football, much more so than an offensive showcase with little resistance on defense.

Speaking of Year 3, I'm also looking at Quay Walker--I think some new and better coaching could turn him into a star, maybe even quickly.

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Packerpasty's picture

February 14, 2024 at 11:23 am

As far as Taylor Swift goes, she was shown for less than a min total...54 seconds and you crabby old curmudgeons cant handle that?? Good grief...not her fault she goes to the game that her boyfriend plays in....tell ya what, the NFL loves it...and no, I dont know or havent listened to a single song by her, .....now if you ask my daughters!!!

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Johnblood27's picture

February 14, 2024 at 11:48 am

I will ask them tonight.

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Packerpasty's picture

February 14, 2024 at 05:57 pm

oh, you'll find out!!!

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FITZCORE1252's picture

February 14, 2024 at 11:48 am

2014 NFCCG for me. I attended that game with CHTV's own Corey Behnke and by golly, we had front row seats for that debacle. Still ticked.

GPG

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jlc1's picture

February 14, 2024 at 12:42 pm

I don't think the bloom is off Shanahan. In the past 10+ years every SB has been won by a team with an elite QB, Flacco and Foles being the exceptions. He may finally have one now but it is too early to say. So for now I think he has done a great job with the talent he has (and they do have talent!).

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Minniman's picture

February 14, 2024 at 01:07 pm

Al, the good news is that we aren't postulating how the Packers COULD rebuild (after a hypothetical disastrous season where Love tanks, the rookies wilt, the o-line become turnstiles and the D resemble the keystone cops).

All of your points raised today are blissful whimsy..... "first world problems", if you may ...... and today, that's OK with me!

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Swisch's picture

February 14, 2024 at 05:10 pm

I dislike the 49ers as our nemesis of late in a lopsided rivalry to their advantage against the Packers, but do admire Shanahan for leading his team to almost a draw with the Chiefs -- who are to be congratulated for seizing the victory by a slight edge.
I think we're a society that is too much into the blame game, rather than the Teddy Roosevelt approach of acclaiming both sides of valiant combatants in the arena.
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I grew up in the 1970s as largely a child of television and a willing consumer of commercials. I remember fondly the Pepsi puppy commercial with the catchy jingle written in part by Barry Manilow, and the Mean Joe Greene Coke commercial with the awed little boy saying in his East Coast accent, "Really, you can have it."
To some extent, I'm still into television to a perhaps excessive degree, but much less so the manipulative commercials. I mostly tuned them out during the Super Bowl, especially as the ones I saw turned me off.
Sad to say, IMO, we the people of America are being dismissed and demeaned by Big Business and Big Government in collusion.
They try to divide us so as to distract us from their tiny elite taking over almost all of the ownership and control of our country. (To prevent socialism, reform capitalism.)
Now, sickeningly, even the NFL Industrial Complex is part of the oppression of the common man with their BLM-inspired slogans of condescension and condemnation.
Not too long ago, as I remember it, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell wouldn't allow Peyton Manning to wear black high tops during a game to honor the death of the great Johnny Unitas.
Nowadays, the NFL sneers at its most loyal fans as supposedly an unruly rabble of backward bigots.
To me, America should be truly celebrated for the incredible progress it has made in race relations over the last half-century.
To go even further, I doubt any country in human history has gone so far to welcome so many people of diverse colors and cultures.
If at some point we say enough of unlimited immigration, it is only because too much of a good thing is a bad thing.
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As postscripts, and offerings of interest for the offseason:
(1) Our own legendary coach of the Packers, Vince Lombardi, was in effect a pioneer of the Civil Rights Movement of the 1960s by the way he integrated his team as equals, all of his players fully recognized and respected as men in teamwork for the triumph of the Green and Gold.
See the two-part biography of Lombardi that first aired on the NFL Network in 2013 for the centennial anniversary of his birth; also, consider Bill Curry's moving commentary as part of the documentary series, "America's Game," about the 1966 Packers as the champions of the first Super Bowl.
(2) I'm currently reading a biography of a prominent Confederate general, James Longstreet, who after the Civil War was vilified by very many in the South for cooperating with the North and working with blacks for their civil rights. No statues for him.
He even fought alongside blacks (and was actually wounded) in a battle in New Orleans that was a white uprising which included former Confederate soldiers. As of today, I'm in the midst of reading about this Canal Street Coup of 1874, which seems to have resulted in Longstreet relocating to Georgia, about an hour away from where I have been residing for about the past five years.
I'm proud to say that Longstreet also converted to Catholicism, another despised group in American history; along with Jews, Catholics and blacks have been deemed enemies of the nation by the Ku Klux Klan.
Anyway, the name of the just-published book, by Elizabeth Varon, is titled: "Longstreet: The Confederate General Who Defied the South."

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THESZOTMAN1's picture

February 14, 2024 at 07:53 pm

Not to be argumentative, but the BIGGEST disappointment was 2011, where we went 15-1 (and could have been 16-0) and then lost our first playoff game.
The Szotman

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NFLfan's picture

February 14, 2024 at 10:14 pm

Steve Young (49ers) Emeritus doesn't think a team can win the SB without a bona fide Franchise QB.
Shanahan cannot handle a real Franchise QB because he cannot give the freedom a real QB requires..Shanahan won't win a SB.

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pete-nado's picture

February 14, 2024 at 10:37 pm

Purdy seemed to fail to make pre snap protection adjustments that are essential against the Chiefs. Mahomes was making those adjustments. We see Love make them. Purdy may eventually get there, but he's not a Super Bowl qb yet and the 49er window may be closing too fast.

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 15, 2024 at 08:41 am

Spags lined up the Six man front and Purdy sticks with the called, running play to nada. At least Love learned to get out of the look from watching Rodgers ,I hope. The Vegas money went to K.C. because of the QB.

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pete-nado's picture

February 14, 2024 at 10:33 pm

Super Bowl commercials do so much to disrupt the flow of the game. And they so often fail by trying too hard. And slightly altering themes from prior years.

I still have visions of Ha Ha grossly misjudging a high looping cross-field pass in 14. And Peppers...the veteran presence...blowing it by playing not to lose and telling Burnett to go to the ground. So many horrific scenes. 2014 Seattle was much more traumatic.

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 15, 2024 at 08:41 am

Saga of the "well-coached" team.

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Doug Madigan's picture

February 16, 2024 at 04:14 pm

Come on Al, do a little proofreading. Especially the last paragraph. I expect better.

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