Josiah, Josiah, Josiah.

You have one job in in PAT formation as a TE - stop the edge penetration.

You didn't even get a hand on the rusher.

cant wait for the draft so they can get another Van Ness....

Watson is showing himself to be a one-trick guy. Get him isolated on a go route and he can make a play if you drop it right into the breadbasket. But everything else he's pretty useless. Yet MLF/Love keep trying to force the ball to him. He's about the 4th best receiver on this team yet treated like he's Cliff fucking Branch.

He cant get off of it and go somewhere else with the ball, he doesn't read the whole field, he locks on to one guy...but hey..."he's young"...like CJ Stroud...

when do they play the Panthers??

I can't wait for the draft so they can get something better than a high school QB. The only thing Love learned from AR is to hold onto the ball too long. He is awful in the pocket,can't read a defense, rarely throws the ball into the receivers' hands requiring them to dive for the completion or get killed by an oncoming train. No pocket awareness. Throws into double and triple coverage. Throws over their heads, bounces it to the them and when you need that TD when they're 15 yards and in he cannot complete a pass. We all know how bad Love is, but does Love know how bad he is?

I'd commend our CBs but the Steelers took what we gave them...no need to force against a team that has trouble executing.

Musgrave integration continues with chunk plays...with the holidays nearing, can we give him the nickname "The Bumble?" Maintaining his balance is like asking for 80F in January.

They fed Watson early until the drop...still need to see more underneath routes to utilize speed / YAC. Every deep throw to him I shake my head before it's thrown...perhaps Love & Watson should practice comeback routes instead?

Why does Aaron Jones choke in big moments? The drop, the poor decision to stay in bounds... (shoulder shrug).

Fast forward to 12-11-23, we're now 3-9 in a similar situation where we were against the Rams the week before...winnable game, who shows up?

I'd like to see Love's stats while targeting Watson. Clearly, they don't have "it" and the fact that they keep trying to force the ball to him to try and make "it" is quite literally losing them games.

Aaron Jones made one of the worst decisions I have ever seen in my life not running out of bounds for -1 or -2 yards and instead ran to midfield for 0 yards effectively wasting 15 seconds of clock time the Packers could not afford to lose.

Hats off to the refs for giving the Steelers 3 first downs in the first half on phantom calls and that absolutely nonsensical "incomplete pass" that everyone outside of the review booth could see was clearly a lateral and fumble. GB did not deserve to win with the way they played at the end, but damn these games are getting harder and harder to watch with the way the refs are calling them.

…Jones runs to the middle of the field with 20 seconds remaining—-seriously?
How bout one game changing play from our 1st rnd pick QB—Stroud seems to be able to do it; as do the Texans; they’re a young team also.
I’m sick of losing y’all and I don’t particularly care for the excuse we’re young—excuses don’t win ball games.
Go Packers!!!

Just not good enough yet on offense to finish these types of games. However, there is no defending the defensive game plan coming out of the locker room. You knew the Steelers are going to run the ball and you are constantly in nickel with only two d-lineman in the game without regard to the down and distance. That is brutal.

Barry lost that with the inept first quarter and a half. Then they started playing, but like so many Barry Ds when we had Rodgers, too late, too big a hole.

I chose to rely entirely on the radio broadcast for my perception of this game. Wayne Larrivee has exceeded his best-by date and needs to be tossed out. Even if I give him some grace for inaccurate information as far as receiver/ball carrier/length of gain/loss, down and distance, time remaining, which side of the 50 teams are on, and overall lack of situational awareness, there would still be the issue of correctly describing which unit was coming onto the field (FG vs Punting) at a key moment. The man is confused. Please give him a nice place to sit in the CASE-IH Red Zone and let him pet a puppy.

I’m disappointed we couldn’t take advantage of opportunities today. Looking forward to reading most of your comments.

Much improved and they actually held my attention to the bitter end and not just background noise while I hang decorations. Still going to come down to who will be the play makers when needed just like every team has to find. Can’t say if they had AR because when was the last time he was a clutch play maker and not a gagger? But you either have the clutch gene or you don’t and I see a bunch of guys with the game on the line looking at each other wondering if they got one…or two?

Yes, there was progress, and more easily seen in this game.
Yes, there are foot holes this team cannot seem to avoid.
Watson cannot be counted on.
Let's get some Wick in the candle of others.
Musgrave is like loading a musket rifle, takes too long to reload after a shot.
Our veterans on Offense need to be smarter.
Love is still a 50/50 QB with his passing. Either good or bad. That needs to get better faster.
This team is still its own worse enemy, and that will get exploited more over the next few games.
A couple of big steps forward, but too many baby steps back.
They still need to learn how to win, and not rely on the opponent to lose.

It's the best I can offer, so have it.

I understand that Love's completion percentage is pretty awful by NFL standards, and not saying he isn't too blame, BUT...

I've always been very positive towards Gute and the job he's done since taking over a bad situation back in 2018? I believe. But to draft Rodgers replacement with the intention of Love taking over as QB1 eventually....and then allow the WR/TE rooms to become completely depleted by the time Love (or whomever would have been drafted for that role) takes over, that his first season as QB1 is throwing to the most inexperienced pass catching group in recent NFL history is horrible team building.

I don't know if Love was going to be "the guy" either way but putting him behind that 8-ball was totally unfair to him and the team's evaluation of him. It might be too late to rectify that at this point.

Not upset. Ups and downs.
A pretty fair representation of where this team is right now.

I have to admit, I liked what I saw a hell of a lot more today than the previous 5 or 6 weeks.

All in all I was luke warm okay with the way Love played. That throw to Watson was NEVER there. You just can't throw that Favre...I mean Love. But Christian Watson HAS to help his QB. Now I admit, that was a horrible decision to throw that ball, but Watson NEVER seems to do his QB any favors. Hopefully that starts coming...SOON.

I like Musgrave. Rumbling, stumbling, bumbling Luke Musgrave.

Watching CJ Stroud of Houston the last two weeks with TWO rookie WRs making all those plays makes me wonder why our 4th year QB can't do anything remotely close. Especially when you consider the offensive genesis that is Matt LaFleur. Today WAS better. Hopefully it's leaps and bounds from here guys.

Sigh...

My impression of Jordan Love is that he has carried himself with class ever since he came to Green Bay; has persevered like a pro through some ups and downs during the first half of this season; and then stood tall today against a ferocious Steelers defense with some fine play.
Time will tell, but my early impression is that we have a keeper at quarterback.

3 rd and 19 need to run out clock the whole world knows it’s a run , Barry has 1 d lineman and drops everyone back and they pick up 11 yards, this man is not an NFL coach .

BTW…who was Love throwing to on the last play? Was anyone open? The tv dorks never showed a replay but watched the nothing brawl on the sidelines 🤪

OK, so watching the defense get pushed around in the first half was just embarrassing. I don't care if they tightened up later on, that was JV level stuff.

Remember when people were ranting that Bisaccia should be the head coach because he was so darn awesome?

Watson is probably our #4 receiver. I still have hope for him, as long as he can stay healthy. Oh, and about that....

NOT a good game for Aaron Jones.

Loved seeing Musgrave get some big plays the past few games, and his blocking is better than I expected. But why does the dude keep falling down without contact? Seems like every game he takes a digger of his own accord.

Not worked up about the lateral. No one expects that to be called.

Not sure why most are complaining. There was huge growth by many on the offendive side of the ball today. The oline looked good wr reed wicks dobbs looked good it is very dissapointing how watson has regressed but cant win them all.

Really dont care about defensive improvement. As long as Joe Barry is their it is what it is .

Best case scnerio team fought hard defensive coaching incompetency is still at a high level thanks lafluer and draft status still intact.
J
This team is not.going anywhere this yr so it is all for the best

If Love plays good enough to win.
I got No complaints. And he did play
good enough to win.
I almost saw the deer in the lights look.
And then all of a sudden it was gone.
The only thing that showed up after that,
was his processing.-

Locking in on Watson was just an example.
Watson isn't Devante Adams yet.
He was compared to Lofton.
But keep in mind Adams is left handed,
and played basketball.
The throw was too late. Locked in?
There's No doubt about it.
Love is getting Coached up.
He is not being isolated by MLF.

Needs to be doubs, wicks, and Reed. Watson will play but it's gotta be those 3 guys. They are the best 3 wrs. Go back to week 3 when Watson came back, that is when love started throwing picks and losing confidence. He seems to have his confidence back at least, but lafleur needs to get these guys on the field more and stop trying to force feed Watson. He's a second year guy hes not a seven year vet on a big second contract. There's some young talent there, let them all gel and draft a LT in 2022. Cus Walker was getting bull rushed by highsmith. Give love time, he will be a good QB I believe.

The Steelers ran wild running off left guard and left tackle (and did okay to pretty good elsewhere). I'd have to watch the game again, but my perception is that Van Ness did not have a good day against the run, though his stat line has 1 TFL and 2 solo tackles. Don't think the DL had a good day. Pickett only had 23 attempts and those seemed like they were done just for a change of pace. 36 rushes for 205 yards. Yikes!!

If Love makes Musgrave adjust to his pass, Musgrave is going to stumble and fall. Mustrip (credit to Packer0808) did get down the seam and perhaps there is some chemistry and some big play availability.

GB is trying hard to get Watson going. I don't blame them, but it ain't working.

Reed body catches. He bodied the TD pass and the punt muff. Yet he is quick and looks like a pure slot receiver who has a future in the NFL. GB needs more out of Doubs and Watson, or they should give Wicks a real shot with 50+ snaps.

EDIT: This was better. Shoutout for Ballentine who I thought held up well, overall. The OL held up in pass pro. One Watt sack was because Love couldn't step up in the pocket, IIRC. Not the best rep by Tom but sometimes things combine to push a relatively harmless pressure or just getting run wide around the arc into a sack. Overall Tom and Walker looked functional in pass pro against two high quality Edge guys. Their interior DL had a good day GB's IOL. Last week the Rams' NT had 10 freaking tackles. When does an NT get double digit tackles? Benton and Heyward had games that were too good. Runyan more inconsistent than consistently bad. Funny when Tom and Runyan pulled and got stoned, along with the GB's RB. But they tried again and sprang Dillon for 40, IIRC.

Jones touting himself about holding other accountable and then doesn't hightail it out of bounds. Instead of 4th and 3 with 3 seconds, it should have been 3rd and 3 with 10 or 15 secons, more than enough for two shots into the end zone.

There are no moral victories. But if there were…
I’m seeing a bit of progress. On the road against a tough Steelers team that just doesn’t lose in one-score games, and we had a chance.

I will be making the trip next week. I will bring it all game long! Lambeau here I come!

I do have hope though. They have a lot of talent at wr. If they can draft a LT, who can come in and play(big if), they got something to work with. I think love will be a good NFL QB, it's easy to say love sucks because "cj Stroud derrrrr cj Stroud" but not every NFL QB develops the same. He looked today like he did in weeks 1 and 2, and that's a guy playing with confidence. He nailed Jayden Reed on that deep ball because he had time to throw it. The Watson play at the end wasn't a great throw, but Peterson made a nice play. We will see.

Love can't throw that ball into double coverage, but if you watch that play, he underthrew it to Watson. If he had been led further, maybe. But Watson is not who I would be throwing to down there anyway. Tough loss but we did battle. Once more, ST was a factor. This team can't make mistakes or recover from bad ref calls.

Good effort for the Packers. At least they were competitive for most of the game. This is the best we can expect from this team and organization for the indefinite future. Looks like the Saints game will be the highlight of the year.

I was not thrilled with some of the "machismo" play calls throughout the game in certain situations, but most of them ended up a positive outcome- still didn't like the calls.

I thought the throw/tip/int to Watson was unfortunate. I don't have a problem with throwing a back shoulder and asking the WR to fight for it, but I don't like the placement to the inside shoulder. I understand dropping the ball on the outside- just over or even outside the sideline- for the back shoulder is far more difficult due to defender placement, but Love has shown he can make that throw and it is less apt to be tipped up and recovered. Ball placement there can be improved.

I got up off my butt and started yelling "you idiot" at #33 when he cut back inside.

For a split second, I thought the Packers were actually going to run a fake spike at the end, and I would have actually preferred that they did. Normally, I wouldn't like the idea of an extremely young offensive unit trying to pull off a rush to the LOS to pull off a fake clock-killer, last-second TD attempt, however, I would have preferred to have our inexperienced offence attempt to take advantage of an off-balance and unsuspecting Steelers defense, rather than trying to prepare our offense to attack a Steelers defense with all the time in the world to prepare themselves for the down.

Tough lessons lead to rewards down the road.

Until mathematically eliminated... 11-6 :) GPG

This is a pretty comprehensive edition of Gut Reactions and I really can't add much to it.

We didn't come out on top, but if there was such a thing as a more "digestible" loss, this is it; at least on the offensive side, where some progress is being made. What is not digestible is Barry's run defense, which screwed us again by allowing over 200 yards to a team that is not a rushing powerhouse.

The Love-Watson chemistry just isn't working very well--only two receptions on seven tries this time, including the underthrown ball late for the INT. Agree that the coverage was too tight and that Love should've looked elsewhere. I think it's pretty important that the coaching staff fix this chemistry, whether it be timing, hitting Watson in space more frequently, getting Watson to use his height, etc. We've got talent here, but it's not materializing to the degree that it should be.

Even with all the "digestible loss" crap I said earlier, I look forward to the days where I can expect the Packers to win these kind of games again instead of hoping for a miracle. The offense has to learn to close the deal, but unfortunately the needed proficiency, at least on a consistent basis, doesn't come overnight.

Have we not seen the same thing in many games already this season? LV, Denver, now today? Love forces the ball, doesn't look the safety off? A Jones with few touches, even tho' I admit it wasn't his best performance of the year? Barry with his super soft defense and the rb's getting very few real holes to run? After all these weeks, where have we really improved?
If you think about it, won against NO because they missed a 40+ yd FG at very end of the game, beat Rams with their 3rd string qb, and the Bears are the Bears.....Poor drafting from 2016-2020, is why we are the 'young' team we are...next few weeks are not going to get easier....

Seems like about half the comments are positive on Love. I don't see it. Accuracy is just not there. So what did we see this game that we didn't already know. Barry doesn't want to change, Love is not impressive and team overall is mediocre. So are we now officially tanking?

Jordan completed a big pass, 4 minutes left in the game and then the OC calls 3 consecutive pass plays… that made zero sense to me. No Emanual Wilson touches. Also its bad enough that its a young struggling team, But the NFL officiating has been grueling to watch. They have almost made this shit unwatchable . CBS cameras on the game also sucked. Oh well, on to next week

Love had a good first 3 quarters. The two TD throws were genuinely beautiful. This was much more of the offense I thought we’d see coming into the season: flashes of brilliance, but mistakes from young players that keep them from winning games.

Unfortunately, the Love to Watson connection is just not working. The interception today was on Love, but the mutual struggles have really emphasized that the Packers are trying to develop a QB and a receiving corps simultaneously. It’s leading to balls being forced when they shouldn’t in inopportune situations. Can’t help but wonder how things might look with a reliable veteran receiver.

Overall, losing sucks, especially when you have a great chance to win. But the Packers did have some real bright spots today without hurting their draft position.

Offense is still learning how to win. Barry, I am done with!!! Two down lineman are driving me nuts!!!! I can't stand it. You play a running team and for the most part you play two down lineman. DONE WITH BARRY!!!

I just don’t like to see the ball being thrown to Watson in big moments. I think he’s more of a garbage time WR. He definitely shouldn’t be starting. His down the field speed isn’t important when your qb doesn’t throw the long ball well. If the Packers were in the thick of the wolf card race he’d probably be on IR.
I suppose this was our first moral victory this year. I still don’t and never will like this coaching staff. I know it’s a young team, but LaFleur is in his 5th year, and I’ve never seen anything that made me think he’s the guy. Rodgers was .. the guy. Now MLF and Joe Barry are in control. I still have hope for a 6 win season.

Some positives and some negatives but no big surprises today. I think most of us are reasonable enough to be looking at this season as a developmental year. With that in mind, out of the 4 young WR's - Watson, Doubs, Reed, Wicks - I can see at least two of them should turn into the core of a nice WR room. If we also get the progress I expect (hope) from Musgrave, then 2024 or 2025 seasons will have to potential for a potent group.

But:
jury still out on Love,
we need to upgrade the O-Line
and we will need to replace Aaron Jones by then too.

Lots of progress and dropped balls. But when the game was on the line with 6 minutes I think, after we stopped the Steelers and the defense was getting tired, we get the ball back and proceed to give it right back. Tomln being no dummy starts running more leaving little time and no timeouts. The rest was as expected.

The Packers were in the game to the final play against a likely AFC playoff team. A bunch of young guys playing a bunch of veterans(excepting Pickett) and staying with them with a chance to win it on the other teams home turf.
Positives: Love is starting to look like an NFL QB, Z. Tom kept a future HOF'er off from Jordan Love, for the first time some effective running though not enough of it, the rest of the o-line was ok, good at times, Even Walker held is own but got drilled a couple of times. Musgrave is starting to get open, the corners played fairly well even though they're green as grass. Reed made some plays but he still has fumble fingers at times. I though MLF did a fairly good job calling plays though at times I have to scratch my head.

Negatives: A special teams mistake likely cost the Packers the chance to tie the game at the end. That stuff should not be happening this far into the season. Aaron Jones isn't playing as well as he can, though Dillon finally had the light go on. The run defense was bad most of the day. Not that much pressure on Pickett,
Watson is never going to be the bell-cow for the receiving corps. He rarely wins the contested catch and has had way, way too many drops this far in.

A young team slowly, and I mean slowly, starting to have the lights go on as to what it takes to play in the NFL. The problem is they could just as easily get blown out. The Chargers offense will test the defense a lot next week.

The give up at the end of the first half angered me as well. The coach was asked about it and he said he was afraid of giving the ball back to the Steelers with time left. Talk about no confidence..oy

Kraft took Degaura’s spot on the FG unit in the second half, so there seems to be some notion of accountability on this team.

What is the stealthiest way to tank a season? Retain a horrid DC…

After the win over the Rams, some of the writers on this site were downplaying its significance. After all, backup QB and all that, so it was no big deal. Now, the team loses to the Steelers, who seem primed to copy the Vikings of last year, and eke out a lot of wins through smoke and mirrors, and we're supposed to be happy? Win or lose, this is my team. And at the end of the year, when it's time to determine who makes the post-season, no one cares which victories were barely won, and which were absolute blowouts. A win is always better than a loss.

The Packers have played better during the last 2 games. However they continue to defeat themselves with dropped passes, poor decisions and bad situational football. Jones of all people not running out of bounds with no timeouts during the final minute of the game WTF?

The Packers have lost 4 games this season by a total of 11 points. They could be 7-2 instead of 3-6 but penalties, dropped passes and poor decision making has cost them those 4 games. It is the price that is paid for a young, undisciplined team which the coaches don't seem to be helping at all.

The Packers are making progress but they have a long way to go. The next 3 games will provide a good indicator of how much progress the team has actually made. Thanks, Since '61

- there is a fine line often between playing to win and playing to not lose. Coach LaFleur crossed that line by folding up the tent with 1:20 and 2 time outs left.

- We’re the younger roster in the NFL. These kids are learning together on the fly. And we’re competitive most weeks. That’ll eventually turn into victories most weeks if we stay at the hard work, learn from the bad, grow from the good, and learn how to play NFL football together.

Youngest. Roster.

- Love reminded me of Favre and Rodgers today. Some Rodgers-esque dimes and some Favre-esque forced throws.

- my question isn’t if Love is the guy. My question is, is MLF the guy?

- would like to see E Wilson worked into the running back rotation a couple series a game.