Just to let you know - he was my first choice. Actually I had Barry rated as last.

Yeah I mean what the fuck where they thinking? Seems like when their top candidate(jim Leonard) turned them down they threw the remaining candidates names in a hat and did a blind draw because I have a hard time believing he was #2 on the list. His resume was sketchy at best.I know its still early but I didnt like what I saw today. A turnover machine like Winston with those 2nd rate receivers. I'm pressing those guys and making him beat my guys with tight throws. Put a spy on Kamara. King is not an every down cb.

Where were the defensive guys flying to the ball? looked like Pettine was still coaching! Argggh

Spot on

Preseason? We don’t play anybody in preseason anymore...

Maybe we can trade our “diva” QB for a good water boy. Gutey missed a golden opportunity to get some value out of an overrated whiner.

It is not the DC. It is the lack of talent in the front line, Kenny and who else?

How can a team and coaching staff who has been in the last 2 championship games and who is picked by a lot of people to go to the super bowl allow such a butt kicking. Nobody came to play this is the most unmotivated game i can remember in 30 years

Loved watching most of the Defense in the game standing around pre-snap looking either bored or confused (take your pick) with hands on their hips. Real bunch of tigers there…. Not.

Oh and,

QBR. Rodgers 36, Winston 130

That's funny dad. Those of us alive watching the Pack in the 70's and 80's recognized early where that game was headed. It's a Packer thing when they screw up that badly.

Props for 6 adjectives in one sentence!!

What do you expect when Rodger's takes zero snaps in the preseason. This happens yearly and he does start slow. Everyone, including myself, was so anxious to see Love and how well he can or can't play.

I think we need to make sure our starters are ready for the first game of the season and that means they need to play some in the preseason!

When the Packers' SPTs are the highlight reel, there's a problem.

Spot on.

Bojorquez looks like a keeper.

Oh, I don't think that's gonna happen next week.

Methinks you might be right

We learned in high school not to lead block with your head. Deguara's injury was the result of wrong technique, Somewhat surprising, because he seems like an intelligent player.

Can’t wait to see how you’re going to hold them accountable.

Again... Bingo!

You're right definitely an improvement at the punter position

Absolutely. Don't burn this tape. Take stills and make posters and put them up in the locker rooms.

This was a team that looked cold and flat.

Now that was pretty funny Harold!

Just for my clarification HD - was it the pre - Oct. 1943 army? Or the post Oct. army - when they switched sides?

That depends! We need to hear that popping sound first. You know, when you get your head out of your a$$.

Lots of people saying Rodgers had no time in the pocket.

I don't think that was the case. Rodgers didn't have EXTRA time in the pocket.. but he's got to get the ball out at the top of his drop.

Just a minor disagreement - I'm excusing the special teams because how often does that happen with them?

It's possible Rodgers panicked and was trying too much for long passes.
He may have done the same thing last year in the regular season loss to the Bucs.
I could be wrong, but it's something to look into.
With plenty of time in a game for a comeback, is Rodgers too rash in trying to make up the deficit too fast?
Also, how well does Rodgers keep his composure in the pocket against a fierce pass rush, and how good is he at finding open receivers?
I want to be truly fair to Rodgers, but this is a question important for the good of the whole team.
Does Rodgers at times get intimidated or impatient in hectic situations of adversity, or is it a matter of him not getting enough support from his teammates?

they looked soft and played soft.. we don't need no preseason games!! we're pros!!

It may be a matter of choice for the Packers to make as of Monday.
Even if the Packers continue to get off to a slow start due to the way things were handled in the offseason and preseason, it's a long regular season in which there is time to turn things around.
There has to be a real dedication and determination, though.

Good comment, but I know of one thing this team has that last two did.. Kevin queen, great pick up Gute..:)

So there’s no use in discussing this outrageous drubbing by the post Brees Saints? Move on. The body is stinking and the flies are on it.

Sean Payton had 6 months to game plan for this game. MLF also had the same amount of time. The Saints were physically superior today.

Yeah! Who’s to blame here? Light the torches! LOL

Agree 100%

Yes! Any time that A.R. has been pressurized - he reverts to McCarthy mode - taking the play clock to 0 - holding onto the ball too long - fixating on certain players - playing sandlot football etc.

McCarthy’s team played decently against Tampa, which is more than you can say for Lafleur’s crew.

Bingo

qbs look for him. he is there go to guy when you need to move the ball. thank brady for exposing him.

"Notice nobody helped him up".

I did not notice, but if that in fact happened, then that speaks volumes. The normal reason why nobody helps the QB up is because he's been a jerk. Not saying that's the case here... but then... very telling!

Um, when he loafed and gave up a deep TD?

the whole eam sucked but so did king. watch the fn film moron

I think this is about right.

This is what i spoke about Jones last year too.. All his worst performed games are against stout dlines.....starting two newbies on Oline against the top 5 defense is one of the poor choices...But no one likes to hear the truth

I didn't think they should have signed Jones and as far as king? should we start calling him TOAST (where is estus hood when you need him) Hood was called toast BTW

You're forgetting Tampa in the regular season last year...San Diego and San Fran (twice) the year before...

Meanwhile Lowry looked like garbage.

An someone explain why??

Hahaha that was a good one ha

No they need to watch this game tape everyday for the season.

“We’re off to a flying stop!” Lol… Now THAT’s a classic!!!!!

I remember the lynn Dickey days... 8-8 and nothing great!!! at least if they don't pick it up they can't go 8-8 since we had to add another game to make the league great again!

I told my wife I didn't remember a game this bad going back to 1970 when the Lions beat Green Bay 40-0 in that seaon opener. Bart Starr was the starter in that one.

I usually agree with you... but on this one... they need to see the tape in their sleep!

Yeah he doesn’t want to be here when he still played made bad decisions this game but tried. The deep ball was awful but we have no oline. Defense is awful same story for a decade and that’s it. If love is the answer trade Rodgers so he gets a ring and rebuild our defense cuz that’s been a problem that isn’t getting better. This team won’t beat Tampa or the niners so might as well maximize the rebuild before it’s too late. But even with love this isn’t getting better till the d and oline are fixed and Kevin king is complete garbage and can’t believe he makes 5 mill to be so awful.

Well I'm not sure that he's totally checked out of GB this season. But he was certainly MIA in Jacksonville.

If we can't handle them, the season and this team is toast.

Detroit put up 33 points on SF. Hmmm.

"ZDS non-sack: So is the NFL really worth watching, anyway? Nothing remotely illegal."

It LOOKED too violent...he popped Winston a good--and legal--one. I don't know if the pick would've held up to review, but there was still time to do something at that point if it did.

The worst opening loss since a 40-0 defeat against the Detroit Lions to open the 1970 season. Just sad.

Crosby kicked well!!! other than that.. it is time to put up OR shut up! I agree!!! Adams wants 30 million a year? for what? Rogers wants more money and control of decisions? for what? stop listening to the BS and work to make this a great team because today you looked like an 8th grade team playing a senior team.. IT WAS WORSE THAN BAD

Jenkins did better when Lewis came in. But why not put Newman outside? Where The TE can help him and keep the Vets at Guard? Until Myers get better. There rushing Newman and he's No Jenkins. I say put him at RT.

It did seem as though the receivers couldn't get open against the Saints, and I'm wondering what happened.
Was there something intermediate between the short passes and long passes that could have been open with different play calling?
Could there have been more motion before the plays, more misdirection during the plays?
Did Rodgers start throwing the ball too deep too often too early, or was he frustrated by a lack of open receivers open on the shorter routes?
What adjustments could have been made at halftime?
I'm stumped as to how thoroughly our offense was stuffed.
I'm hoping for some good commentary this week from good fans such as you, TGR, to help detect what went wrong, and how it can get better.

Newman never was ready. He is not a Guard. Patrick was going to get cut. Turner was to far out. Myers never got dirty. The Lions will expose this OL too. Until Jenkins and Turner, end back up at guard. The MLF offense will fail. Because they lost Linsley. And Myers needs help.

What did the front office do?
The DC was MLF's hire.

Please, no one is getting fired tonight. But at the end of the year if this keeps up Gute should do what Ron Wolf did after one year of Ray Rhodes: fire them all and start over.

I hope that's not the case.

Yep.