Hero to Trade Bait: Packer Fans Know it too Well

Bucks trade gives memories of Packers legends' departures

Some fans cry out in terror, while others express relief that it's finally over. A franchise player was just traded. Either late on Monday night or Tuesday morning, Milwaukee Bucks fans learned that after 13 seasons with the team, star player Giannis Antetokounmpo was traded to the Miami Heat. Whether as a fan you thought it was time or not, there's a bit of sorrow in parting with a player that has meant so much to your favorite franchise. Something Green Bay Packers fans know all too well. 

In the last decade, you couldn't think of Wisconsin sports without naming Aaron Rodgers or Giannis Antetokounmpo. Wisconsin fans were spoiled with the luxury of watching two icons of their respective sport often dominate anytime they were on the TV. There's little doubt that Rodgers' #12 and Giannis' #34 will hang on the facade or rafters of the complex their former team calls home for as long as the franchise is in existence. But their time with the team they called "theirs" for so many years didn't end in one last curtain call. It ended with a bit of drama, rumors circulating, and an eventual trade. 

I'm not a big Bucks fan. You could easily call me a casual. If the team is doing well, or on a playoff run, I'll maybe switch them on the TV and get into it, but otherwise, they're an afterthought. I had a spell of fandom in the early 2000s when Glenn Robinson, Ray Allen, and Sam Cassell rocked the Bradley Center, but the last time I attended a Bucks game was when I won court-side tickets and coincidentally sat behind Aaron Rodgers. However, this didn't stop me from recognizing how much Giannis meant to the city of Milwaukee, not to mention the state of Wisconsin. In my lifetime, there have been loads of Packers players and a handful of Brewers players who have been beloved statewide, but not many united Wisconsin for the Bucks until the "Greek Freak." 

Being two championship-winning Wisconsin sports icons whose careers in the state overlapped each other, it's fitting that Giannis' Bucks tenure ended almost the same way as Rodgers' Packers tenure. A few offseasons of uncertainty and trade rumors, alongside voiced displeasure with their franchise, led up to an eventual blockbuster trade departure that perhaps was a season or two overdue. 

From Icon to Expendable

For decades in the sports world, it was common to see star players ride off into the sunset with the same franchise that had been home to much of their success. But now, more than ever, we're seeing stars end up elsewhere for the twilight years of their career. This has long been an accepted common practice in the NHL, where, when a team's success is dwindling, they'll trade a star player to a championship contender for draft picks or prospects. Fans often mourn their departure, but since it is such a common practice, it is rarely a surprise. Sometimes it's even seen as a parting gift between that player and the organization. The team gets a few pieces for the future while the player gets another shot at a title. 

Today, many of these stars are unwilling to stay with their team through a rebuild or retooling. Likewise, the team sees trading away the star as a way to get the younger assets needed to speed up the rebuilding process. With the picks the Packers received in the Aaron Rodgers trade, they selected Lukas Van Ness, Luke Musgrave, Anders Carlson, Edgerrin Cooper, and, in a way, via a trade-up, Evan Williams. Of course, Anders Carlson was a full-fledged bust, and Luke Musgrave seems to be heading that way as well unless he has a strong 2026, but Cooper and Williams were big pick-ups with LVN always seeming to be on the cusp of breaking out, just hasn't gotten there yet. Not to mention the money saved in Rodgers' departure that you could say went towards signing free agents like Xavier McKinney and Josh Jacobs the following year, and eventually extending Jordan Love.

The Rodgers trade was rumored to be a possibility starting roughly two years before it even came to fruition, much like Giannis' eventual departure. Both of these rumors began their life as sacrilege, as each player publicly remained dedicated to the team and the city in which they began their careers. But visible displeasure with the respective organizations pierced the curtains. The Packers, unlike the Bucks, had their succession plan already in place; however, that made Rodgers expendable in a way, once they believed Jordan Love was ready, as the team could still be competitive after Rodgers' departure. There was no succession plan in place for Giannis, so it could be a few years before the Bucks are competitive in his absence, but the possible assets in return for him made him expendable in that they could make that road back to contention shorter. 

Whether fans agreed with the decision or not, the departures of Aaron Rodgers and Giannis Antetokounmpo marked the end of an era in Wisconsin sports. They serve as a reminder that loyalty in professional sports isn't what it once was—not because players or organizations necessarily care less, but because the business has changed. Salary caps, aging stars, championship windows, and roster construction have made even the greatest icons expendable. For fans, that reality never gets easier to accept. We grow attached to players we assume will finish what they started, only to watch them wear another uniform. Maybe that's just the new normal. But it doesn't make saying goodbye to these legends any less bittersweet.

 

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Greg Meinholz is a lifelong devoted Packer fan. A contributor to CheeseheadTV as well as PackersTalk. Follow him on Twitter @gmeinholz and Bluesky @gmeinholz.bsky.social for Packers commentary, random humor, beer endorsements, and occasional Star Wars and Marvel ramblings.

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WD's picture

June 24, 2026 at 10:13 am

The Brewers have been masters at trading stars for lesser known players. The budget forces them to use this strategy. Baseball really needs a salary cap structure. The LA Dodgers are a prime example why. They are the best team money can buy. .

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TarynsEyes's picture

June 24, 2026 at 11:14 am

Totally ignoring their farm system, and that the Dodgers pay the right players. The Mets have a huge payroll and are ten games below 500 and in last place. They pay the wrong players. Two of their starters making big money aren't pitching and have missed a lot of starts, and their homegrown guys are doing fine, as they have 51 wins and on pace for 102. Roberts is a master at juggling players. It isn't all about the payroll.

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dobber's picture

June 24, 2026 at 01:48 pm

"Totally ignoring their farm system,..."

Yeah, not so much.

mlb.com/news/farm-system-rankings-2026-preseason

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Oppy's picture

June 25, 2026 at 06:34 am

You're totally ignoring the composition of the roster, and the fact that teams like the Dodgers purchase away the home grown farm talent of teams like the Brewers in free agency because of the lack of salary cap.

It's certainly easier to 'pay the right players' when you have your pick of elite talent across the league to choose to pay due to your much deeper resources than a smaller market team.

Just because a team like the Mets can be bad with a huge payroll and a team like the Brewers have found ways to succeed (to a point) despite a limited payroll doesn't mean there isn't an inherent advantage to having a wildly larger pool of money to pay players with.

I'm fairly certain if you track the teams that have made it to the world series over the last 20 years, you'll see a pattern emerge as far as payroll rank.

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dobber's picture

June 24, 2026 at 02:05 pm

When the rest of MLB was busy following Harvard econ major analytics (not scouts) and chasing "swing-miss/3-true-outcomes" ball, the Brewers were stocking up on the forgotten middle IF/OF who could run, make contact, and defend.

sabr.org/journal/article/the-growth-of-three-true-outcomes-from-usenet-joke-to-baseball-flashpoint/

They've also bought hard into the Latin American markets and have found gems as middle teenagers. They develop prospects who play hard and buy into what used to be called "small ball." The minor league pipeline remains stocked to the point of logjamming prospects and they've been able to turn many scrap-heap veteran pitchers into good bullpen arms. If you watch in the offseason, year after year their minor league pitching coaches and instructors are being poached by other teams, but they keep chugging along.

They contend because they manage their limited resources far better than most of their competition, and they come up aces on their gambles way more often than other GMs. Their success also is the prime argument (see: even the smallest markets can contend in this system) against change in the system.

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the_gavia_pass's picture

June 25, 2026 at 04:42 am

they have Andrew Friedman that Is why they win not Money.
you have gutekunst and ZERO Rings.

WAKE UP.

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Savage57's picture

June 24, 2026 at 10:14 am

Moving on from Rodgers and Giannis was inevitable, and in the case of both of them, happened about a year too late.

Trying to hold onto superstars in the era of the mega-contracts they command and how it impacts franchise renewal is like the, "S**t in one hand, wish in the other and see which one fills up first" axiom.

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the_gavia_pass's picture

June 25, 2026 at 04:45 am

you forget they are giving more money to a bust called love.

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Tater's picture

June 24, 2026 at 11:11 am

Moving on from Rodgers and Giannis was inevitable, and in the case of both of them, happened about a year too late.

Both teams went “all in” to win another championship. But you can’t go “all in” every year. At some point you can no longer “kick the can”.

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Cheezehead72's picture

June 24, 2026 at 01:44 pm

Yes in the old days you could kick the can longer. I remember when soda cans went to aluminum. You could not kick them very long.

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the_gavia_pass's picture

June 25, 2026 at 04:45 am

packers never went and never go all in.

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Leatherhead's picture

June 24, 2026 at 11:31 am

The window doesn't stay open forever, that's for sure. That's why you have to take advantage while you can.

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June 24, 2026 at 01:09 pm

The window for the Packers for a long time has been based on them winning the division. which, in the eyes of many fans and media pundits, deduces that to mean SB contender. It's true to a dull point, but the more open-eyed know that's just hyperbole. The Packers' window being open is still limited to a division title at best, as has been proven since Rodgers' last year of getting close.

I'm waiting for the time when they can actually dip their toe into the deeper end of the SB pool, which is getting harder and farther away as the division title and playoff entry are a struggle in themselves.

They might be praying for an expansion that will create an 8th playoff spot, if only to help maintain that open-window hope.

Tired of hearing it, when do we see it?

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BuckyBadger's picture

June 24, 2026 at 01:08 pm

The moment a player wants to play GM it is time to move hjm.

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Cheezehead72's picture

June 24, 2026 at 01:47 pm

So does that include Parsons trying to recruit Tomlin to join the Packers and him saying the Packers should get Pickens.

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BuckyBadger's picture

June 24, 2026 at 02:37 pm

Blurps on twitter are not the same as wanting in on GM decisions or making negative comments when you don't get your boys. Rodger and Gannis went beyond name dropping on twitter. Parsons was just getting his name out there for his own interest, it is nonsense which is why I don't pay attention to it.

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the_gavia_pass's picture

June 25, 2026 at 04:47 am

Rodgers did not do that.
Brady did that and tampa won the ring.
Rodgers wanted obj but did not push and we lost to Tampa.
the Rams hot obj and went to SB.

so stay on reality not on your fake Dreams.

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Oppy's picture

June 25, 2026 at 06:41 am

Rodgers absolutely did that.

It's a big part of the reason the roster and salary cap went to hell in his final few years- he was insisting on keeping aging veterans on the roster by any means necessary (void years, anyone?) and within 3-4 years our roster was old, we had a dearth of young talent to replace them, and our cap was in a bad place.

Side note, in his final season before being traded, he decided to come into training camp and use his very first press conference to bash the front office and proclaim that the Green Bay Packers 'disrespect' their veteran players. He called out some players by name that he claimed were 'treated poorly', 'disrespected', and 'unfairly', ironically invoking John Kuhn's name among them- a player who was actively working for the Green Bay Packers media team at the time.

Rodgers- eff that guy.

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June 25, 2026 at 07:38 am

as many packers fans from Wisconsin you create your own reality Just because you do not want to admit the failure of the packers management.
Rodgers wanted weapons, real weapons but gutey traded up to select a future bust QB.
the veterans were Just added by gutey because he missed on real upgrades.
the whole packers management failed.
obj said multiple times he wanted to play with Rodgers but gutey and Murphy said no.
later obj was a Key to the Rams SB for Matthew Stafford.
facts.
not fake Dreams from fans leaving in Wisconsin and out of reality.
WAKE UP.
packers: 2 rings in 60yrs
bucks: 1 ring in 60 yrs
brewers: ZERU TITULi as we say in Europe.

you have an average at best management of not terrible sometimes but you build your own reality thinking Murphy was a great president and gutey (the King of dead money) Is a great GM.

WAKE UP.

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Oppy's picture

June 25, 2026 at 08:11 am

I make nothing up, it’s all factual.

By the way, I have maintained Murphy has done tremendous damage to this franchise.

STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH.

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dobber's picture

June 25, 2026 at 09:22 am

Apparently the cappuccino is weak in Italy today.

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Bitternotsour's picture

June 25, 2026 at 09:53 am

i think he has altitude sickness. brain just refuses to work.

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LambeauPlain's picture

June 25, 2026 at 12:30 pm

He must be have a brain injury...posting a photo wearing a helmet. Assuming the head protection is due to cranial distress because it would make sense based on the content of his delusional posts. Perhaps he received some incoming rocks from on top of the troll bridge he lives under?

Get well, gravia.

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dobber's picture

June 24, 2026 at 01:45 pm

As my dad the dairy farmer used to say, "don't get attached to the livestock."

Every player is commodity with a limited shelf life. It's not personal, it's business. At some point their value relative to what others are willing to give for that player tips away from you. At that point, you move on and use the return to refuel the roster (or farm system, in the case of MLB).

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Bitternotsour's picture

June 24, 2026 at 09:38 pm

I was such a bad farmer. All my goats had names. I wouldn't sell to halal buyers, placed all the male kids with 4-H.

I get sad when we let favorite players go.

That said, #12 outlasted his welcome, fuck that guy.

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dobber's picture

June 25, 2026 at 09:23 am

All our milking herd had stanchions and names and signs over their stalls. They also agreed that ARod was let go at least a year too late.

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LambeauPlain's picture

June 25, 2026 at 12:38 pm

When I grew up on our family farm, most of the dairy cows were milked for 5, even up to 8 lactations.

Now the cows last 2, maybe 3 lactations as the freshening heifers can out often easily produce a 3 year old cow due to advancements in nutrition, breeding selection, and cow comfort.

We milked 125 cows on 2 farms and were considered a large dairy operation. Now 1,000 cows + is nearly the average in WI with those larger herds in WI and elsewhere supplying a huge majority of the milk.

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dobber's picture

June 25, 2026 at 02:00 pm

We were around 60 most of the time--holsteins and ayrshires--and got up into the upper 70s when I was in high school. It's all the barn would hold and seemed pretty typical for our area in WI (around Lake Geneva). We had some old holsteins that lasted 10-12 years but most were like you described: 4-6 years. Now cattle are pushed pretty hard with feed and supplements, and stressed out by not being allowed to forage so they don't hold up.

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golfpacker61's picture

June 24, 2026 at 10:29 pm

Gutey missed a tremendous opportunity in the Rodgers/Broncos potential trade. Yeah we were losing an all time great QB, but that trade would have set us up for success.

Looking at what the Miami heat gave up for Giannis is incredible, and even though it is apples and oranges different, it really makes the Parsons/GB trade look like a tremendous bargain which I think it is. The Heat gave up a lot of picks and 1/2 of their best players to get Giannis. They will struggle to surround him with complimentary players and they better hope he stays healthy. He is a tremendous player, but Miami overpaid for him.

Not that we should be thinking of trading Parson because he just got here, but in 2/3 years if we haven't taken that jump to playing for titles, a Parsons trade could happen. Think what the haul we would get back for him if he was still healthy at 29 years old. It could dwarf this Giannis deal altogether.

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the_gavia_pass's picture

June 25, 2026 at 04:55 am

Pat Riley Is a Legend as a player as a coach and as an executive.
I would not bet against him in this trade.
he got Giannis the only player that was able to give a ring to Milwaukee 60 yrs After Lew Alcindor.

Parsons trade value Is still a question mark. he Is out with a big injury nobody knows how strong he will come back.

facts are: bucks 1 ring in the last 60 years. packers 2 rings in the last 60 years. brewers zero rings ever.
Wisconsin sport system Is overrated.

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the_gavia_pass's picture

June 25, 2026 at 07:40 am

btw.
Pat Riley alone has much more rings than all Wisconsin professional teams in all sports and by far.

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June 25, 2026 at 09:07 am

I am not saying Giannis isn't a great player Gavia. I am saying Miami gave up not only a substantial amount of their future picks, but also 4 really good young players, 3 that are on really cheap contracts.

If GB was to move Parsons in 3 years, the haul we would get back would be something like 3 firsts and multiple really good players. It would be better than the return the Browns got for Garrett because Parsons would still be young. If GB can't at least get back to the NFC championship games then I could see a move to get picks and maybe a really good young pass rusher to replace him for a lot less $$$$.

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the_gavia_pass's picture

June 25, 2026 at 04:32 pm

a great player traded 2 times in his prime Is a question mark.
you can say Jerry Jones Is done on the First trade.
but if also the packers will trade him teams will ask..why??? so I think the price will be low

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June 25, 2026 at 06:05 pm

That's not how it works. If a player is above average at his position someone will always want him. And with Edge rusher the 2nd most important position, he would be easy to trade even being paid that much money.

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