The Four Agreements From Week 11

Join your bald and important host to examine the unofficial end of the Packer's 2022 season, and try to dig up four reasons for the Packer's stunning slide into ineptitude this fall.

To say it's been a lackluster season in Green Bay, would be like saying Game of Throne's final season was a tad underwhelming.  In other topical news, water is still wet, and Jay Leno is still not funny.  Yet, in an unbelievably frustrating season, this Tennessee game was easily the most frustrating performance yet.  At home, in, let's call them "brisk" conditions, against a historically bad offense, and a battered and bruised defense, led by human paperweight Ryan Tannehill, on a short week, and what did the Packers do?  Dropped an Andre the Giant-sized deuce all over the hockey rink that was Lambeau Field.  I can't lie, dear reader--The re-watch of this game was uglier than a Rosanne/Tom Arnold sex tape.  In honor of this upcoming Thanksgiving, one thing I am thankful for is the fact that this season is almost over.  So, get yourself a boat of gravy and a plate of rolls, and let's dig into this absolute turkey of a game and find four agreements as to why this season has been anything but a piece of pie.  

A quick note from the author--This season has been a dumpster fire on wheels--and, I, a hot-blooded redhead, tend to express my near-constant displeasure with a certain four-letter adjective that starts with an f.  I am faced with a paradox--I don't want to scare off some of our more genteel readers, yet, I also don't think I can accurately describe my frustration with this Tennessee game without leaning heavily on my favorite malediction.  Here is my compromise--I am going to replace this most repugnant profanity with the more family-friendly word--foghorn.  Enough bloviating from me.  Let's get on with the foghorning article.

  • Agreement #1--This is all Brian Gutekunst's fault.

We have spoken about Gutekunst at length this year, which is either a really good sign for a GM or a really bad sign.  In this case, it's the latter.  It's best to look at the Green Bay Packers as a restaurant.  Gutekunst orders the produce.  Matt LaFleur cooks the meals.  Rodgers serves the supper.  Making Gute's job a little trickier is the fact that the Packers have always preferred to use their own homegrown goods.  Now, Gute has purchased plenty of yams.  And, he has loaded up on turkey (Aaron Rodgers' wildass new contract).  But, here it is, Thanksgiving week, and Gute has forgot to order any apple pies.  Is this premise sweaty as hell?  You know it!  But, when else are you going to get to use a Thanksgiving analogy? 

Gutekunst's 2020 was a mess.  His 2021 draft class is shaking out even worse.  When your team prides itself on being a "Draft and Develop" organization, you kinda need to nail the first part.  And, as of late, we haven't (to be fair, his 2022 draft is looking pretty promising).  He sat on his hands throughout this past spring's free agency period.  And, the one year he actually splurged on, 2019, resulted in a whopping two playoff wins.  And perhaps the most confusing aspect of Gutekunst's talent acquisition has been his maniacal focus on defense while leaving future Hall of Famer Aaron Rodgers looking around his wide receiver room like that Will Smith meme.  No, not that oneThis one

It's not just Gutekunst's draft day blunders that have rendered this 2022 Green Bay Packers squad as hapless as Sideshow Bob wandering through a parking lot full of rakes.  There seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding between Gutekunst's internal timeframe for this team, not to mention his ideal talent design of this roster, versus the needs and wants of Matt LaFleur, and, to a lesser extent, Aaron Rodgers.   And what you are left with is a team full of half measures (foghorning half measures).  A, thus far, wasted first-round pick on a backup quarterback.  A spent second-round pick on a backup running back.  A gaggle of Day Two tight ends who are built to block, in an offense that already employs one of the best blocking tight ends in football.  Several high draft picks on sticky man coverage corners to play in an defense that plays a non-aggressive zone scheme.  The list is foghorning endless. 

At the end of the day, Gutekunst's bet in the spring of 2020 that Aaron Rodgers's best days were quickly coming to a close, will end up defining his legacy as GM with the Packers.  He tried to follow Ted Thompson's move but failed to realize his team is not playing in the 2005 NFL ecosphere.  First-round picks have to produce.  The earlier the better.  Do you think Tee Higgins, Michael Pittman Jr, or Chase Claypool could help this team right now?  Because Green Bay passed up each to draft Love.  This is not an indictment on Love.  Maybe he is the next Patrick Mahomes.  Though, LaFleur's alleged insistence to pay Rodgers and stave off Love's inheritance of the quarterback position speaks to the reality that maybe he is not.  He is what he is--an answer in search of a question.  This perfectly sums up Gutekunst's reign as Green Bay's general manager.

  • Agreement #2--This is all Matt LaFleur's fault.

What is left to say about the Tom Hagen of the Green Bay Packers?  Listen, the flaming hot takes on the Bird App regarding Matt's coaching acumen have been greatly exaggerated as of late.  You are never as good as your best day.   You are never as bad as your worst day.  LaFleur had the good fortune of taking over a team that included Aaron Rodgers.  He is the coaching version of being born a Vanderbilt.  His head coaching career was born on third base.  Let's see if I can conjure up any more rote cliches.  I don't have an answer.  Sound familiar?

The biggest problem with Matt LaFleur is the fact that he is an enabler (unless you are Aaron Jones--then he is a disabler).  Matt is the kind of parent who doesn't want his kid to drink, but, if the child is going to, he'd rather you do it at his house so he can keep an eye on them.  Go watch damn near any Packers game from 2020.  It's staggering to contrast the offensive play in 2020 to the foghorning garbage that this team is running this season.  2020 was chuck-a-buck with motion, jet sweeps, running back slants, and tight end seam routes.  And points.  Glorious points.  You remember what those are, right?   Now watch any game from this season--those aforementioned play calls are as extinct as Blockbuster Video.  

That's because we aren't running Matt LaFleur's offense. Aaron Rodgers didn't like Matt's offense (despite it winning him multiple MVP trophies).  No, sir.  Matt's offense didn't allow for any rhythm to develop, according to our Millenial Supergenius Quarterback.  Right.  Because this foghorning Frankenstein mash-up of 25% LaFleur scheme and 75% Mike McCarthy retread is a John Bonham drum solo.  Good hell.  This season's offensive output has had about as much rhythm as Naven Johnson in The Jerk.  And, I blame LaFleur.  Week after week we watch Rodgers chuck it for Jesus, miss his mark by four yards, and then motherfoghorn his receivers until they relent.  And, week after week we watch LaFleur mention how much we need to get Aaron Jones involved in the game plan.  Matt, I don't know if you know this, but you are the FOGHORNING PLAYCALLER!!!  You decide where the ball goes, dude.  If you want to get the ball to Aaron Jones, than GIVE the ball to Aaron Jones more.  Your petulant 39 year old teenage quarterback might not like it, but that's not a problem--you are his boss.  He works for you.  Stop allowing Rodgers to force you into submission.

It boils down to communication.  If LaFleur can't effectively communicate his personnel needs to Gutekunst, that's a problem.  If he cannot sell the merits of his offensive scheme to his superstar quarterback, that's a foghorning problem.  He wants to run a player-led program.  He has mentioned this on multiple occasions.  Great.  Sounds awesome.  One problem--your players aren't taking up the mantle.  My daughter would love to eat Reese's Peanut Butter Cups for dinner.  I don't let her, because that's not healthy (plus, she would be stealing my stash!).  These players need leadership.  They need a guy with a plan.  They need a guy with a backbone.  And, they need a guy who doesn't start every foghorning press conference by shamefully announcing that he doesn't know why the team lost.  When you see an asshole in the morning, they are an asshole.  If you see assholes every Sunday, you are the asshole. 

  • Agreement #3--This is all Aaron Rodgers's fault.

Rodgers's flaw this season is simple--It's that foghorning haircut.  It's a foghorning disaster.  It looks like he got his haircut by a Boeing 727.  It's business in the front.  White walls on the sides.  And, what the foghorn in the back.  It's bad.  Oh yeah, and his thumb is broken.  And, his thumb being broken is causing his accuracy to be about as reliable as an ice cream machine at McDonald's.  And, his temper is starting to resemble my dad's when someone calls his house after 9PM.  And, he has clearly bullied Matt LaFleur into running the same garbage-ass Mike McCarthy offense that was played out in 2017.  That's about it.

Has anybody seen the Aaron Rodgers Book Club on Pat McAfee's YouTube show?  It's just an excuse for Rodgers to lord his Cal degree over all of us by recommending books that most 39 year old's with no kids would find useful.  For a guy that loves to read so much, he sure seems to hate making reads in Run Pass Option plays.  His decision-making process when running RPO is about as stolid as mine when playing Blackjack (I never hit over 14--And, I don't win a lot).  I can't tell if his reluctance to actually run an RPO like it is designed is due to his age, or some kind of passive-aggressive way of signaling to LaFleur to stop calling RPO's.  It's a shame, too, because 2012 Aaron Rodgers would have been unstoppable in the RPO. 

I have never understood why playing injured gets a player a Toughness merit badge.  If your injury is cause for your play to diminish, you aren't some badass warrior--you are a hindrance, and you are hurting the team more than you are helping.  Eventually, the Packers will have to shut him down for the season to get the thumb taken care of, and we will finally get to throw our eyeballs on Jordan Love, but I will caution this--Count Rodgers out at your own peril.  There is no foghorning way this dude goes out on this sour of a note.  No way.  This dude is a maniacal competitor.  And this competitive drive is matched only by his maniacal ego.  No way he slumps off to the shadows after this foghorning dumpster fire of a season.  He will be back next year.  He will be healthier.  He will have a new girlfriend.  And, he will be looking for bloody retribution.  And, hopefully, he brings the other half of his hair with him. 

  • Agreement #4--This is all Joe Barry's fault.

Turns out the third time was not the charm for Joe Barry.   I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.  LaFleur's decision to hire Joe Barry to rescue our defense from the withering meh that was Mike Pettine always seemed like a curious choice.  And, by curious, I mean awful.  Joe Barry is a bad coach.  He was bad in Detroit.  He was bad in Washington.  It can't have truly caught anybody off guard that, surprise surprise, he is bad in Green Bay.  The guy is a human white flag.  I get that Matt and Joe were friendly from the brief stint they spent in Los Angeles coaching the Rams back in 2017.  I have a lot of friends, too.  But, if my company's driver quit tomorrow, I wouldn't call my alcoholic buddy to fill the position.  

Barry's biggest problem (besides being a bad football coach), is the fact that he is not really a coach, at all.  He is a scheme.  And, the scheme he is steeped in just does not jibe with the defensive talent the Packers currently have on roster.  Barry has three top-shelf press man coverage corners.  So, you would think he would design his defense around a press man coverage scheme, right?  WRONG.  No, Barry's bright idea has been to take three weak tackling corners who excel at man coverage and align them in a soft zone where they are required to tackle extensively.  Um, ok. 

His use of safeties is also quite flummoxing.  One safety, in particular.  Darnell Savage is bad.  Like, unplayable.  And, he has been bad for a while.  Just scroll through Twitter for ten minutes after a Packers loss.  Everybody can see it.  Hell, Ray Charles could see it.  But, Joe Barry, couldn't.   That's a problem.  @FatAssMatt on Twitter shouldn't have a better take on Green Bay's defensive personnel than our foghorning defensive coordinator. 

The defense has been pretty shaky all season, but last Thursday was Barry's coup de grace.  Green Bay's defense allowed 330 yards of passing to the NFL's worst passing offense.  That's like getting beat in a boxing match by a guy with no arms.  If I wrote down a list of twenty random names and snuck three names of Titan's wide receivers into the said list, I don't think 99% of you could pick out the Titans player's names.  Tennessee is the only team in the NFL who looks upon Green Bay's wide receiver's room with jealousy in their eyes.  And, there was Foghorning Joe Barry playing this goshdarn cashmere soft Cover 2 zone the whole damn game and making Ryan Foghorning Tannehill of all people look like Tom Foghorning Brady.  Gadzooks. 

You can tell the players are totally over Joe Barry's bullshit, too.  The constant miscommunication in the defensive backfield.  The lackadaisical approach to the zone.  The poor body language.  The random leaks suggesting displeasure among the ranks with Barry's "playcalls".   Week after week, I tune into this team praying that Joe Barry has wizened up and is going to actually design a game plan that plays to our talent's strengths.  And, week after week, God reminds me that he is Joe Barry and watching his bullshit defense is my cross to bear.  Joe Barry is what would happen if Andy Griffith moved to the big city and Barney Fife took over as sheriff of Mayberry.  And, nobody would have watched that show. 

  • In Conclusion

It's not one person's fault for the dire straits that this Green Bay team finds themselves in.  It's everybody's fault.  Everyone in the Packers organization deserves a leg of blame from this spectacularly dry turkey.  They say it's always darkest before dawn.  I hope that's true.  Because it is a pretty foghorning dark time to be a Packers fan.

  • Catching Strays

Are we sure Brett Favre isn't behind this whole FTX scandal?

Where the hell has Marcedes Lewis been?  Has he been hanging out with Shelly Miscavige?  Somebody needs to put an APB out for the Big Dog.

Joe Barry has never met a soft coverage zone he hasn't wanted to take a romantic walk on the beach with.

Did anybody watch Lebron James' simulcast of The Shop during the Tennesse game?  If you did, can somebody explain to me what the actual hell Rob Lowe was doing there?  And, where was Rob Lowe's generic NFL hat?

Watching this Packers team is like walking in on your wife cheating on you with a guy that looks just like you.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING, EVERYBODY!!!

 

Tim Preece lives in Utah because he makes poor life decisions.

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Oppy's picture

November 23, 2022 at 06:19 pm

It is one person's fault.

It's all YOUR fault.

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stockholder's picture

November 23, 2022 at 06:57 pm

Adam Stenavich OC. -
Rodgers thumb- ( If this was the 60s, the mob did it.). After all a certain owner paid 32 mil. for violating racketeering laws in New Jersey.
Still want a owner?

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egbertsouse's picture

November 23, 2022 at 08:11 pm

Foghorn you! You don’t know what the foghorn you’re talking about you dumb motherfoghorner.

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splitpea1's picture

November 23, 2022 at 08:40 pm

This is why you need a single strong and capable GM in charge of the football operations-- everybody needs on the same page when it comes to selecting, coaching, and utilizing talent in congruence.There needs to be an Invisible Fence between Murphy and the football side of the organization.

Gute: I applaud his efforts to improve the defense, whether it be through the draft or free agency. For the most part, it worked out pretty well last season. But not now, due to injuries, poor communication, and illogical coaching approaches. But his "internal time frame" as it relates to "draft and develop" and late-season player acquisition doesn't jive with a team that for years was on the doorstep to Super Bowl trip. As far as the 2021 draft, Amari was obviously a total whiff, but taking Myers over Humphrey was also a big mistake.

MLF: Player-led team? Well, no wonder we have the QB doing his own thing instead of following the preferred coaching script--which waters down the coaches' influence over the entire team. And the defensive secondary has been accused of doing a little 'freelancing", which MLF intends to speak to them about.

The haircut: It's still not as bad as Ringo Starr in the mid-1960's with that bowl cut that had grown real long in the back.

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Scott1369's picture

November 25, 2022 at 07:20 am

The entire defense should start freelancing into a man to man coverage, aggressive blitz packages defense. just ignore the play calls. Rodgers does it all the time 🤣

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Swisch's picture

November 23, 2022 at 09:15 pm

A sad and frustrating season to date, but there are only 17 regular season games a year, covering only about four months; and so, as someone who cherishes football, I want to savor these last six games by looking for any signs of positivity from the Packers.
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(Warning: old-timer reminiscing to follow.)
I played six seasons of organized tackle football, from fourth grade through freshman year of high school, then retired. It wasn't all that fun for me -- as I mainly wanted to catch passes, and that happened almost never.
I had three receptions my final season, all on halfback passes for touchdowns, which was a thrill after five prior seasons almost exclusively confined to blocking and tackling -- and that seemed to be a good time to go out at what appeared to be my peak as a football player, and with two good knees intact for the future.
Thus in retirement from organized football for the rest of my years in high school, I used to throw the football around to myself on autumn days in the backyard, which was fortunately shielded by shrubs from the neighbors. I don't remember exactly how I actually attempted to do this solitary pastime, but it was highly amusing to my family watching from the windows. It may have included throwing passes to bushes, and faking out imaginary defenders.
Anyway, at age 60, I would probably still do some version of this solo football if I had a bigger backyard, and was properly shielded from the neighbors in an exercise that would look even sillier as a senior citizen than as a senior in high school.
My point being (besides elderly rambling about meager exploits of yesteryear, please excuse me) is to say that there really is such a thing as love of the game.
So, my suggestion to the players is to cut through whatever dysfunction may be a part of the Packers these days, eat well and get plenty of sleep, enjoy the camaraderie of the team, and make each game count to the fullest.
Then, let's see how many of these games we can win.

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pantz_bURp's picture

November 24, 2022 at 08:18 am

Man, Swisch...that was good! Thanks...

It kinda reminds me of A Christmas Story and a Norman Rockwell painting combined for some reason. Stay young in spirit and don't lose that juice for life... also, honesty is a pure elixir.

>^••^<

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ricky's picture

November 23, 2022 at 10:57 pm

First and most important, where on Earth did you ever get the demented idea that the proper dessert for Thanksgiving is apple pie? It's pumpkin pie. Period. Unless you live in the southern US, where pecan is considered acceptable. Being from Wisconsin, no way. It's pumpkin, with whipped cream and NOT from a can! Apple pie is for the Fourth of July. It is acceptable to serve it warm, with either regular vanilla or French vanilla as a topping. There is no further discussion on this issue. I am the Pie Man, and my ruling is law. Why do I get to be the Pie Man? Because I thought of it, and you didn't.
Now, as to your article, your analysis of the problems with the Packers is correct. What is missing is answers. What would you do to fix the team? Who would you fire? Would you trade Rodgers? Just curious.

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croatpackfan's picture

November 24, 2022 at 01:03 am

First, I want you all peaceful and enjoyable Thanksgiving day.

Tim, all those "culprits" you called in this article are just the product of one, uniqe culprit - Mark Murphy - the Idiot. I'm surprised you did not mention him. He is the true GM of Packers football operation.

BG & MLF, both enters the fight with one arm tied on the back.

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zeke's picture

November 24, 2022 at 08:32 am

Agree with this. Curious as to the dynamic in the building, as it's clear that the GM constructed a team to play a style of football that the HC won't (or can't) play. Since the HC is apparently only accountable to Murphy, it's hard (for me, anyway) to lay at all at the GM's feet. Also curious as to who is making the call on Love. If the contract that Rodgers signed doesn't already make it obvious that they don't think Love is the QB of the future, the fact that they think a QB with a broken thumb and on a 5-game losing streak gave them a better chance to win than Love pretty much sealed it. So many questions, so few answers, and a massive shit show. Happy turkey day...

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LambeauPlain's picture

November 24, 2022 at 09:07 am

Here's my theorem:

Gutey went out and drafted players to fit ML's offense. Heavy on run and passes to RBs, lots of play action/illusion of complexity mindset, RPOs, quick slants and TE's who can block, deep shots down the middle opened up by the run game, OL with versitality and equally good at run blocking and pass pro. Move the chains, control the clock and score.

It is hard to draft for ML's, or should I say Rodgers needs in September.

Regarding drafting ML's D? Matt do doubt told Gutey to go and talk with Pettine, then Barry.

How on earth do you draft and develop when the O and D is still clueless about who they are?

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croatpackfan's picture

November 24, 2022 at 10:26 am

While your theory of why they didn't and do not play Jordan Love have more logic, I have another one, because logic is the last thing that rule in today's Packers. My theory is that Jordan Love showed a lot of promise and capability, but the Idiot supports ACR, who do not want public to see what Packers have in Jordan Love, because he might be pushed in the direction of retirement. The Idiot will do everything to please ACR, because he is afraid of possibility, if ACR would be benched against his will, ACR will publicly start to sh*t on Packers and to produce turmoil in the board he is CEO of.

This theory is less logical, but it is not without any sense. There was some rumors reported from Jordan Love hater - stockholder, that Packers tried to trade Jordan Love at the trade dead line, but I doubt it is truth. It would be huge news that many in NFL community will report.

So, either Jordan Love is not ready, or the Idiot and ACR are blocking Jordan Love, who is quite ready. We will never know what happens behind the closed door.

All that illogical staff we are witness of are product of idiotic move from the Idiot (what we might expected - what else you can expect from the Idiot than to produce or push or do idiotic things). He completely handed whole franchise to the hand of one person - ACR...

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13TimeChamps's picture

November 24, 2022 at 03:01 pm

Just curious...are you even remotely capable of posting something without the juvenile name calling?

While I disagree with Murphy's power structure, that "idiot" you constantly refer to is an ex-pro bowl linebacker who was a player rep to the NFLPA. He ended up receiving a law degree after his playing days ended as well as being an Athletic Director at 2 universities before becoming Packers president.

Disagree with him all you want. The man is not an idiot. Maybe it's time for you to grow the f**k up. Or better yet, maybe you can share with the rest of us your lofty career accomplishments that give you the right to call other people idiots.

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croatpackfan's picture

November 24, 2022 at 06:05 pm

I believe you have very good experts in one field that will receive lot of honors for that. That does not mean he is not idiot. Idiot is person who, because he excels in one field is sure that he can handle any other field at the same level.

I know that many of you do not like when truth is given. It is easier way to proclaim others not grown. It is your right. I'm not offended with your remark. Truth is rarely accepted in todays societies. When I do something at the level of the idiot, I'll say that this was idiotic from me. But if I will keep doing that through the time, I can only call myself idiot. Because that is what idiots do. Not see their own mistakes and repeat them on the cost of others, if they have chance to do it.

Also fools very often try to convince others they are not fools, by saying: "I'm not fool!" The same you'll get from idiots, criminals, ego maniacs etc.

I'm maybe immature, as you said. But I'm not trying to convince you I'm not. Think what you want. I was teached to call the things, events and others as I see them. To tell the truth what I'm believe and think. And, if I recognize someone is what he is, I will tell him my opinion, not hiding or rephrasing to be "polite", because he is not polite to me or others I care about, by doing wrong, claiming he is doing good. It is sometimes harder and more expensive way, but people around me knows, at least I'm honest to them.

I can live with your opinion thst I'm immature. Thank you on your honest opinion on me.

EDIT: Just to satisfy your curiosity. I'm 62 and some old, I'm doctor of biomedical sciences (phd), I was working on university when war started in Croatia, so I joined Croatian Army, and I was in logistic part of Croatian Army general headquarter, taking care of correct nutrition, hygiene, pest control and sanation of the battlefield and occupied, than liberated territories of my country. After the war, I opened my company related to the field I was studied and worked at Zagreb University. My company is not a big one, but still successful and that is not easy to be in country still battling with the consequences of the war (20+ years from end of conflict). I have read more than 2000 books from many different fields of human interest and learned lot of myself and others. Also, I am self made father of 2 kids (today grown), being the father & mother from the moment my former wife died fron brain cancer. They were 8 and 4 yo. I have quite a lot of friends and I'm satisfied with what I achieved. Never try to use any of this info here, but I have no reason to hide those facts. Any Packers fan, if ever will come to Croatia may call me w/o hesitation if they will need any kind of help. If I will be able to help, I'll will. And ot does not bother what any of those possible person thinks of me. I also travelled lot on the past and learn how to respect other cultures and to take some good things from them. I was twice in US, LA and SF (one day in each of them) and 2 times on Hawai (Maui). Anything more?

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croatpackfan's picture

November 24, 2022 at 06:05 pm

double

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Swisch's picture

November 24, 2022 at 09:00 pm

I'm glad to learn more about you, croatpackfan; and even though we've never met in person, I like to consider you a friend.
It would be great if we could somehow meet in Croatia someday; but if not, I hope and pray that we both make it to heaven, and thus finally have the pleasure of meeting each other with good cheer.
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It seems to me that when fans talk about sports in America, it is generally accepted that there is more room for speaking bluntly without the usual niceties.
This can get carried too far, but I don't think it has in the comments I've read by croatpackfan.
My hope in coming to CHTV is robust but respectful debate -- so that in agreement and disagreement we can enjoy sharing our common devotion to the Packers, and along the way grow in our understanding and appreciation of this team of special heritage.
All the while, we truly desire the best for all of the players, coaches, executives, and others involved with the Packers -- even though we may have some choice words for them ;-).
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It seems to me that, ironically, 13TimeChamps could have been more polite in asking another fan to be more polite.
With that being said, I sincerely extend a hand of friendship also to 13TimeChamps.
It seems most of the fans that come here to CHTV -- I like to think all of them -- are of good will in striving for goodness in the way we live our lives.
I pray the best for all of us this Thanksgiving of 2022 (including very much the staff writers) -- and that between all of us there is more and more a genuine camaraderie.

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MooPack's picture

November 24, 2022 at 06:29 am

Foghorn Leghorning-A !

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Savage57's picture

November 24, 2022 at 07:26 am

Seen on Joe Barry's dating site profile...

Likes - Sunsets, long walks on the beach, trying new foods, soft zone coverage.

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LambeauPlain's picture

November 24, 2022 at 08:55 am

...by being a complete gentleman on all dates, maintaining a 10 yard buffer between each other at all times.

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LambeauPlain's picture

November 24, 2022 at 08:47 am

Shout out to CroatPF for getting to the root cause before me.

"This perfectly sums up Gutekunst's reign as Green Bay's general manager."

He hasn't been a GM since he was appointed Mark Murphy's Administrative Assistant in 2018.

Agreement #5. It's all Mark Murphy's fault.

Can you imagine Ron Wolf, walking into Mark Murphy's office to be told (ordered):

Howdy Doody: "Look Ron, after Monday's Football Operation Committee meeting, I'm going to agree with Matt here...we need to keep Rodgers around for 2022. I know Hack in Denver is offering us a lot of trade capital...but Russ assures me he can get it done with the cap...I have reviewed the numbers with him. Oh, you also said on Monday you have a trade partner for Amari Rodgers for #5 pick. I talked with Rich and he wants him to stay and return punts. So he stays, OK?

The Wolfman: "Mark, you can go foghorn yourself. This isn't a football team...its a foghorning government bureaucracy. I have just decided to accept the GM position for the Bills. So good bye...have a great motherfoghorning day!"

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Bitternotsour's picture

November 24, 2022 at 09:20 pm

The downhill slide begins when Murphy takes total control. The fault list begins and ends with Mark Murphy. #firemarkmurphy

Also too, perhaps you missed it but Aaron is all too happy to tank his head coach. Those last two years with McCarthy were not McCarthy's offense. They were Aaron running Aaron ball. Look at the tempo that Dallas runs with - look at Rodgers consistently snapping the ball with less than 3 seconds on the play clock. Aaron ball, not McCarthy ball.

Watching Detroit today killed me. They have heart, they're entertaining, they strive to win. They have less talent than the Packers, and they ball the fuck out. Heart. A coach who is actually a leader. Fearless.

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Tundraboy's picture

November 24, 2022 at 10:43 pm

Superb.

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GaryC's picture

November 25, 2022 at 05:25 am

Great read, enjoyed that.

Don’t disagree with any of this. I’m sure if people had to grade these 4 agreements (plus an additional one for Mark Murphy) fur ultimate blame as a percentage we’d come up with something different. My highest percentage mark for fault (for what it’s worth) is MLF. Though I do also agree with something someone posted elsewhere it would be good to see his offense with a different QB. But I wouldn’t be surprised (or disappointed) with 12 coming back.

Full of contradictions (on the offense) I readily admit but that’s where I am. Difficult isn’t it.

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