Odds are you will never see the USC version of Lloyd again, for the simple reason that he’s playing against bigger, faster and stronger defenders. It looks like keeping up with NFL training camp level competition takes him beyond his body’s limits.

Wilson is way better than brooks

We can’t put him on PuP as he’s already practiced. We can now nominate 2 players as direct to IR and eligible to return at cut downs without waiver. The question is now, unfortunately, which 2 players? Players put on IR before waivers cannot play for us this year.

Some of that depends on how long they expect a player to be out. If it’s a week or 2 they may just roster them and leave them inactive. If they are not sure they will make it back then they may not spend a designation on them.

For some the waive and resign and put on IR from the initial 53 option also exists (they can reactivate a total of 8 from IR during the season—the 2 protected do not actually have to be), if they don’t get claimed. Lloyd is probably too high a pick to risk that, but others may not be. Gute is going to have to make some tactical gambles potentially.

How much do they think of Amar Johnson? He’s a 4.4 runner as opposed to a 4.46, though he is 15 pounds lighter. He is probably better in protection at this point.

Do they see Johnson as capable of filling the role they had earmarked for Lloyd well enough to start out with him on the roster and see how things go with him and Lloyd’s help? They could try to waive Johnson too, hope he’s not claimed, and elevate him for 3 games to buy time for that. If he does well though, they might face a claim and be forced to make space for him.

Amar Johnson is the only one who is a threat to score every time he touches the ball. He is the clear replacement for Lloyd. Watch the film.

You would have to be blind to not include Amar Johnson in the mix

Because it’s the NFL. Did you see the last play by the Colts? The announcers thought it was a TD, the ref called it a completion at the one, and the replay official said incomplete pass. Each game is a crapshoot in the NFL.

If a runner in possession of the ball (ie not bobbling it) is tackled in the end zone it’s a TD. However, if the motion to tackle started before the runner broke the plane then the tackle is legal, just ineffectual. After that, it’s at least unnecessary roughness technically.

The refs seem to be more lax on calling late hits in the end zone, compared to calling them on the sidelines. Maybe they want to give defenders the benefit of the doubt when they are trying to make a TD-saving play. But I agree that they should probably flag players for some of those hits in the end zone. I didn't see the one last night.

Hamstrings are a worry as they have a tendency to recover slowly and be prone to reaggravation after return. Unfortunately, we have a number of players with that issue. Lloyd though has now a bit of a history with his. I think this is an occasion when very detailed individual medical assessment is required. Since we won’t see that, we will just have to wait and see though.

I admit that my gut instinct says Lloyd and Williams should just be shut down and use the 2 straight-to-IR options to keep options open for a mid season reboot if fully recovered. However, that depends on who else may need to go on IR and how integral they are to our plans and depth. Sorrell perhaps, for example.

Availability? It's football, players get dinged up, and you can't expect otherwise. Can't mess around with hamstrings. Pushing him for an early return is more likely to result in a career cut short plagued by injuries. Bring him along slowly to heal the root cause once & for all, and Lloyd's likely to be good to go for the foreseeable future. With four other backs ready to roll, there's no advantage to be gained by fking this up by labeling him 'fragile' or playing him injured, neither of which tracks as sound football or smart management.

I get Eddie Lee Ivery PTSD but the Packers are in the catbird's seat on this, with all the time in the world to get a guy under contract ready to play.

I heard an interview with one of the doctors who performs the physicals every year at the Combine. They asked him if he can predict which players are more prone to injury based on the exam. His answer was, “Absolutely not.”

I feel bad for Lloyd. I’d even go so far as to say he wants to get healthy and play even more than we want him to.

Accurate. However, these are two different players. LIterally, not only TWO (2) numerically distinct physical bodies, but who're also defined by categorically different atheletic profiles. The weightlifting fullback-- stronger quads, Quadzilla! -- vs a freakin runner who flies like a deer. Not the same thing.

No cure for those suffering from Eddie Lee Ivery PSTD. You'll just have to lump it.

You misspelled Dillon and Aaron Jones.

Just accept it.

He selected the wrong back. Irving was the value and proved he's the real deal.

Yes it was, my view too. Alexander the Occasional stated he would have stayed with the Packers if Gutey would have offered him Ravens money...$6 M INCLUDING incentives. Gutey probably told him "you should probably take that deal, Ja."

He showed all of those qualities in college. That's why he was drafted in the third round, which is right where he was expected to be drafted. And only three other RBs were drafted before him.

So he's having all of these injuries because he had a doting mother? What did she do to his hamstring? And his hip? And his appendix?

WTF?

So, Lloyd's got 3 (THREE) more years then, before fans can go whingeing & screeching about how he's unavailable and no-good and his career's over and he's injury prone and a wasted pick and never never ever was a worthy draft pick, GUTE. Like, he's got 3 more years, per you, before fans can jump down his throat too early. It's the NFL, and they never have to admit that fact.

Pop quiz: HOW MANY hamstrings are Packers players dealing with? Are 'analysts' and fans treating 'em all pretty much the same?

You are not going to cut a 3rd round pick already. No reason to. Put him on the PUP and hopefully he can make it back. Wouldn't be the 1st player to have injury issues to start his career only to go on and have a nice career.

an abundance of talent? lol. same thing everyone said about our wide receivers last year until half way through the season. everyone except me.

He will not be on the PuP because he has practiced. We could put him on IR. Do that now and he can’t play for us this year. Alternatively we have 2 spots to nominate a player for in season IR at cut downs now that protect them from waiver. We could use one on him.

However, we’ve no idea how long he’s projected to be out. If it’s 3 weeks they may just roster him. If it’s longer there’s no guarantee we don’t decide 2 other hurt players are not more essential to protect for return. As had been pointed out, our RBs last year were a strength and all return plus Amar Johnson might actually be a good fit for what Lloyd was going to do if they decide they want that outside the tackles option enough.

We don’t even actually know if Lloyd was a lock to get serious snaps or simply that the team was trying to see if they trusted him to protect and not fumble as well as general performance. That’s what camp is often used for when alternatives are known. Sadly, if so, those questions remain unanswered and, even if healthy his role might be very limited as a result.

We are going to need to be patient. They will probably do nothing till cut down time to ensure they know the whole picture before deciding how to handle the injured still on the 90 best for the team as they see it.

Thinking about how Lloyd could positively impact the Packers this year is akin to doing the same thinking with Micah Parsons. One can't be counted on to actually play much, if at all, the other would wreck your cap and mess up the roster.

Block them both out and move on...especially when two of the most talented rooms on the Packers are at RB and LB.

7 or 8 injuries now for Lloyd in one year (half of them soft tissue damage)...each one causing significant loss of training and practice time...is more than just bad luck. Some Packers are just injury prone. Watson is...so is Musgrave...Doubs might be...Alexander was the poster boy and I do believe it was the reason Gutey only timidly tried to keep him as a Packer.

Lloyd won't be cut given his rookie deal...but take him off the depth chart already. And take a long look at Johnson and Abanikanda. One of those should be on the 53 and the other hopefully makes it to the PS.

Not if your convinced he should have been a day four pick instead

There little to gain by cutting him as he’s on a rookie contract. They won’t. They may decide to shut him down for the year at most.

Shutting him down for me would be putting him on IR now without using one of the 2 cut down day destinations to return (at team discretion). Like Glover, he would remain a Packer but not be able to be activated this season.

That would be easier to believe if I hadn’t seen Watson make hundreds of solid blocks. Non-contact my ass.

Do you ever get tired of making ridiculous comments? First, it's Lloyd's doting mother that is the cause of his injuries. Now Watson, one of the best blocking receivers on the team is a non-contact type athlete.

What are your thoughts on Jewish space lasers?

Watson has been playing "contact football" as a kid, in High School, in College and for the last 3 years in the NFL. He never had an injury history before.

Who knows why he's suddenly been injury prone as Packer...but it certainly was not due to being a "non contact type athlete". He's a "play hard, hit hard, hair on fire" type athlete.

Watson is the reason why we win the games we do with him. They double or triple cover him. Others are open. Wide open.

I can only image if he was playing with Rogers in his prime.

May be the year Gutts bad picks come out and show us just how many targets he missed. Lloyd is a bust until he isnt but how long can you afford someone taking up room that is unproductive Gutt?

Welcome to the NFL. Orientation is THAT way ---->

Thumbs down. Interesting. Maybe a . Lions fan. Vikings fan. Bears fan

I would say Gruden knows his stuff.

Wilson had a wheel route reception that went for 32yds AND he got through the game without major injury. Advantage Wilson.

The idea that a running back who has spent most of his time on with the Packers on the sidelines and who has contributed next to nothing is one of the Packers’ best players is risible.